there were some -- quite a few depositions that were private. but there was a lot of public testimony it wasn't before the judiciary committee, it was before the senate watergate committee. as you'll recall the president's counsel, john dean, appeared and testified there was a cancer on the presidency and a number of other revelation that there was a recording system in the white house. all of that happened in the senate. and the fact that it happened in the senate didn't mean that the judiciary committee didn't know about it. the whole country knew about it. and took notice of it. there is only a few members of this committee that were on the judiciary committee during the clinton impeachment. i was one of them. ms. jackson lee and mr. nadler were as well as mr. sensenbrenner and the gentleman from ohio. we had a report from mr. starr.