hear from other witnesses actually falls right into the question of whether or not the president is obstructing the investigation, which actually could be an article of impeachment. the witnesses that we're referring to the president has made it abundantly clear under no circumstances will he allow them to testify. not at all. so the idea that the president's supporters and those of us who would love to hear from that >> sandra: to be clear the president said he would like to hear from mick mulvaney, john bolton and others. >> let me just make it clear. he may have said that but he has ordered them to not testify. >> sandra: in the house. in the house intelligence committee that's what we heard. he said he was willing to have them testify publicly as soon as the latest of the judiciary committee that happened this week. >> they are still under the orders. >> sandra: i want you to respond to your republican colleague reacting to nancy pelosi just here. >> when she talks about a