evidence of collusion. and i think already the polls are beginning to show that. we're beginning to see in the polls independents who had been for impeachment and removing trump from office, that is now reversing. >> bill: my sense is america will go eat turkey in a week's time and be talking about this. i wonder if 51% of the country is going to say is that all you've got? >> is that all you got? i thought the democrats had a great week. obviously if we were sitting here and gordon sondland showed up and not said quid pro quo in his opinion we would say boy, the democrats, another empty balloon. nothing happened. i think if it had been the case you didn't have people saying i overheard the president's voice on a phone call making this request you'd say well, democrats really didn't have it. i think right now when we're looking at things like the polls and public opinion, wait until it settles in. also you still got another set of hearings potentially coming