have less spending and have more deregulatory initiatives on behalf of what the president promised the american people and we're trying to keep those promises. >> sandra: you have been given a deadline until october 15th to comply. doesn't sound like you intend to. >> yesterday's letter speaks for itself on how we think of this process. >> sandra: as far as the documents that democrats are asking for. they are making the case that surely if the president called for a hold on already approved -- congress had already approved those $400 million in funds to go to ukraine the democrats are making the case surely there is a paper trail. is there? >> omb has a lot of responsibility to manage the money the federal government continues to move towards various accounts and programs that congress has passed. we do that business each and every day. this administration and this president particularly has put forward 30% cuts to foreign aid.