globalist versus the nationalist. the globalist thinks borders don't matter, it is the free flow of people and money and ideas across borders. we don't need to worry about sovereign nations anymore. versus the america first nationalism. not xenophobia or any kind of bigotry but to say we're worth standing up for and protecting and you should be as proud of it as i am. >> sandra: we'll hear from the president in a few moments. what is at stake with the president's words? >> this is his third u.n. speech. the first one was -- everybody in the room is who is this guy? second year they're skeptical. now they know where he stands. i think it gives him a different tone for his speech. i think one of the things that the united nations could do a try to figure out how to solve some of the problems at the source. the refugees fleeing their countries don't want to flee.