ron desantis at 22 and noun the line are haley and ramaswamy, 12 and 8% respectively. maybe you expect this on monday night, maybe it all changes. that's why you caucus, that's why you vote, dana, and we'll find out soon enough. dana: indeed. and the candidates are out there the in force. trump was in indianola, but right now desantis is about to be on stage in dubuque, iowa. that'll be something that he kicks off -- will not kick off his day, sorry, the day is continuing on. and we have james upmeyer, ron desantis' campaign manager. one of the things i mentioned before is one of the previous consultants, jeff roe, who had helped ted cruz organize a iowa and get to victory in 2016, he was helping the desantis campaign for a long time. do you feel like that setup and the organization, the ground game can and the strategy is on your side? >> absolutely. the ground game was built begin, you know, six plus months ago. it's too late. if you don't have a ground game
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