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"verney & company", what do you say now about the number? there's not much to smile out. >> there's not. this is an absolutely flat out terrible report. you cannot spin it positively. there is virtually no job creation and actually it's worse than that, because we lost 39,000 government jobs last month. and the unemployment rate went up to 9.2%, the highest since december 2010. the job creation trend, down. the unemployment rate trend, up. a terrible report, bill. bill: two weeks ago, you said the states would be laying off workers and that appears to be happening now. >> yes, that's true. at the state level, there is job destruction, 39,000 state workers lost their jobs last month, almost all of them state workers, very few feds lost their jobs. state workers. you're going to see a wave of layoffs throughout july and august, principle in education. it is possible we will have 100,000 teachers laid off this summer. bill: wow, that is remarkable, stuart. john boehner will talk in 20 minutes, 9:20, the president speaks about an hour after that. how does the white house spin this or can it? >> the white house -- i don't know what they're going to say but it may say, look, this is not the time to cut spending because that's the pressure in the debt reduction talks, cut spending, the white house may say this is not the time to do it the economy is at a standstill. they may turn that around and say now is the time for more spending on infrastructure and education i don't know what the president is going to say exactly but that may well be the approach he takes. bill: we heard this about a month ago, the president talking about the bumps in the road and at this point, there are too many bumps. roll this from early june. >> even though the economy is growing, even though it's created more than 2 million jobs over the past 15 months, we still face some tough times, we still face some challenges. you know, this economy took a big hit. there are always going to be bumps on the road to recovery. bill: republicans are going to jump all over that, they have already, but here is what you think about politically, stuart n. 2012 and that is this, david plouffe said this week that americans are not voting on the unemployment rate. what do you make of that? because the unemployment rate is a reflection of the hardship so many are experiencing now. >> he said that americans don't look closely at the unemployment rate when they vote, they look at their own personal situation. well, come november of 2012, if in their own personal situation they are surrounded by economic pain, layoffs of all kinds, with very close or no movement in the economy, if they are personally surrounded by pain they're not going to be very happy. bill: there's a lot of pain out there. we hear a lot of talk now about a double-dip recession. watch that. stuart, thank you. wall street not liking what it sees, stock futures tumbling on the news. the dow had been on the rebound of late, the dow futures tumbling triple digits this morning. much more on that when the markets open up in 26 minutes but it's been on a tear, 12700 is about the only good news you can find in this economy now. we'll watch it when the opening bell goes down. heather. het health as the white house deals with the jobs report, it is also now in the lion's den in the debt debate, president obama set to hold a new round of talks on sunday. on thursday, he called for a grand bargain and a deal to slash the debt with just 25 days left until the default deadline. democrats were caught off guard after learning that the white house put social security, medicare and medicaid cuts on the table, leaving some democrats to push back. >> we do not support cuts in benefits on social security and medicare. any discussion of medicare or social security to be on its own -- i've said that before -- >> and heather: and democrats warning they will vote no on any deal that includes cuts to those programs. bill: watch this meeting over the weekend, a closer look now at the debt default deadline and what we are facing. treasury department expects the nation to face default on its bills come august 2nd unless the debt limit is raised, administration officials say an agreement must be reached by july 22nd to give congress the time to pass the bill ahead of that august deadline. you got that? so congress has raised the debt ceiling 102 times since it was first instituted in 1917, and ten times in the last ten years. we'll talk to members and lawmakers, both sides of the aisle on this debate. in a moment, republican congressman mike pence out of indiana, would he vote to raise the debt limit? we'll find out in minutes. >> heather: it will be the end of an era if the weather holds out. a live look for you now at atlantis on the launchpad, the final mission in the 30-year space shuttle program. it's set to blast off in just about two hours, as we said, weather permitting, but nasa keeping a close eye on a storm system that could scrub the entire thing. massive crowds are at kennedy, hope to go witness history, and questioning why the program has to end. >> i feel like there's a closure that we will never get back. there is a sense of sadness there. >> i don't see why they're ending it. you know, it's gone on since '80 or '81? that's 30 years. why do they got to end it now? they're not ready to continue with something else, why can't we get a couple more missions? i don't understand. maybe there's something i don't know, but it is sad. so what do we do now? hitch a ride with the russians? at what cost? i don't know. that's my -- you know, it is sad. it's sad that it's endig. heather: apparently that's what we will be doing. steve harrigan is live from the kennedy space center. steve, what is the latest on the weather? that's what we want to know first. >> reporter: heather, nasa officials here are giving the odds that 70 percent no go, 30 percent chance that the weather will be good enough for the space shuttle to take off. of course, a lot of questions about why rain or heavy cloud cover could prevent an orbiter that weighs 150,000 pounds from taking of zero. some very sensitive parts, including thermal panels which could be damaged, in the last 24 hours, we've seen heavy rain, some lightning near the launchpad, so it's really a touch and go situation, just until about nine minutes before launch, then we should have a clear idea of whether the weather is good enough to permit a takeoff or not. right now, there's still some uncertainty. if it doesn't go today, it's likely to go the next sunday, the next opportunity would be sunday, if it's a know good, july 15th. so the astronauts, the crew of four are in, they're getting settled in for the last hour or so, the hatch could close in half an hour but really a waiting game until nine minutes before the scheduled takeoff, just after 11:00 this morning. heather: but steve, hundreds of thousands are expected to be there at cape canaveral to watch this historic launch. what is the mood, are people sad it could be the final launch? >> on one hand, there is a tremendous amount of excitement and you can see the crowds driving along the road, campers, rvs, people coming from across the country and from different countries to really witness a once in a lifetime spectacle and a spectacle that as you say won't be available perhaps after today. the program has gone on 30 years and it could end today, so people are really excited to get a view of something, once in a lifetime. on the other hand, as we heard in the comments earlier, especially amongst professionals, sadness that this program is ending. for many, it could mean the loss of jobs here, especially in florida, and for many of the professionals themselves, it is a loss of pride to think that four times a year, u.s. astronauts will be in effect hitching a ride on the s soyuz. >> heather: fox news will have full coverage of the shuttle launch. shepard smith is at cape canaveral, he anchors our coverage beginning at 11:00 a.m. eastern. will we watch history? we'll find out and speak to shepard later today. bill: it's a remarkable thing to see. let's hope the weather holds out. they're talking about 8000 jobs on the line. when we talked to the governor, rick scott, the other day, he is very confident that they can draw on these jobs and bring them back with the private companies moving in and the space coast in florida needs that. so good luck. heather: we definitely neat jobs for sure. bill: just a few of the many stories we're watching in "america's newsroom". what in the world was a security agent doing when he was caught with an ipad down his pants? >> heather: and their daughter will be free in just nine days. but do george and cindy anthony plan on launching their own lawsuit? >> bill: also tragedy at a ballpark, what happened to a fan who went to the ballgame in texas with his young son? this is tragic. >> it's sickening. as you see him go down, and everyone is crowded around. it scared me, you know, but i thought he would catch something down there, but he didn't. he didn't catch anything. he just went straight down. heather: the boston globe had this headline this morning. they're back! four great white sharks, they have been spotted in the waters of cape cod, the last sights was apparently tuesday. a fisherman saw a shark that he says measured nearly 15 feet long and it was swimming just a couple hundred yards off shore. experts say that they're just following the food supply but doesn't necessarily make any beach goers happy. >> i think it's more of a job on the lifeguards to be aware of what's going on out there. i just stay out of the water. >> you stay on the sand! >> hopefully. >> it's good around hear, sighting the sharks and telling you where it's safe and not safe and people should really listen. heather: absolutely. typically the sharks turn up to feed off the large population of seals. there are no plans to close the beaches. bill: what a bummer, you wait all time for summertime and then the sharks are out there! heather: you can go swimming. bill: no chance, fancy pants! a faceoff at the white house, the president calling for a grand bargain in a deal to take a machete to our $14 trillion debt. mike pence is with me, running for governor of indiana. welcome back. we're going to hear from the speaker, john boehner, in about 15 minutes. i want to talk about the debt ceiling and what happens there but i can't what's happening now with this jobs number. eighteen thousand jobs added, 39,000 government jobs slashed across the country, that's where boehner will speak. what do we do about this congressman? >> what we've got to do is something different than what we've been doing. when a lot of us opposed the stimulus bill at the outset of this administration we said the only thing it would stimulate would be more decifits and more debt and that's turned out to be true, when the stimulus was passed, unemployment was 7.5%, now these heartbreaking numbers as unemployment rises again, well over 9 percent. we just got to take a different tack and i think it's going to be a combination of putting certainty into the tax code. we ought to get past this two year extension of tax rates, we ought to make tax rates permanent, we ought to look for an opportunity to lower the corporate tax rate, but then -- and this is directly related to the debt ceiling debate, we have got to take decisive action to put our fiscal house in order in washington, d.c., other than adding certainty to the tax code, there's nothing we can do to put people back in indiana to work, to put people acrossmark to work, than changing the way we spend the peoples' money, in real and meaningful ways in the short term and long term. bill: it seems like everyone in washington sings the same song, but how we get there, that's where the rubber meets the road. i was in the carolinas on the shore down there, and i have to tell you, man, i feel the double-dip recession already here, whether it's real estate prices or the lack of commercial traffic or whether it's the restaurants, this is a very real issue for how we get this thing going again. now, on this debt limit, will you vote to raise it? >> you know, i've been very clear, bill -- and let me go back to your other point, though, because i don't think it gets said enough on national television. as i chris cross around the state of indiana in my campaign for governor, i'm meeting with every day hoosiers, and people are hurting out there, i mean, families are struggling and indiana has got a lower unemployment rate than the national level but a whole lot of people have quit looking for work, a lot of people have gone back to work, making a lot less than they were making before, so we've got to take decisive action. now, people call this debt situation a crisis. i think it's an opportunity. i think we've got an opportunity, and they're talking about a grand bargain now. we've got an opportunity to cut spending now in real meaningful ways, perhaps even cut taxes and cap spending going forward, and i also believe -- and i'm going to take a stand, that we should not increase the debt ceiling unless we make such an increase contingent on sending a balanced budget amendment to the states for ratification. bull bill that's the only qualification you have, otherwise you'll vote to raise the debt ceiling? if you get the amendment? >> look, i've been clear that i'm not going to support any increase in the debt ceiling without real and meaningful changes in the way we spend the peoples' money in the short term and long term. i think that means dollar for dollar cuts today. i'd like to see statutory caps. i would welcome tax reductions, we could even eliminate these special interest loopholes to get there, if we can lower rates and get lower rates permanently on individuals and businesses but yes, i think the time has come to let the states decide. i've been out here for ten years, bill, i've been fighting runaway federal spending under both political parties. we need a new force in washington, d.c. to demand that both parties start to live within our means. i think that's going to require us to amend the constitution and i -- >> bill: on that point. >> any increase in the debt ceiling should be contingent on sending a balanced budget amendment to the state and i'm going to push for it. bill: the majority of americans agree with you, on the polling, 72 percent say yes, and this is where this gets tricky, when asked would you go for program cuts, medicare, social security, 63 percent say no, when asked about tax hike, 62 -- taxes, six -- tax hikes, 62 percent say no. there's your debate. >> what's the objective, whether in business or policy, you should begin with the end in mind and i think the reason you see that support for a balanced budget amendment, the reason 32 states today, including indiana, have constitutional requirements for balanced budget or prohibition on debt, is because the american people know well, start with the goal of having a national nament that achieves balanced budgets. let's have that debate. and i think any increase in the debt ceiling should be contingent on sending a balanced budget amendment to the states, let's ignite a national debate over whether or not the federal government can live within its means or live under a balanced budget requirement bill: seems like they agree with you on the first point but the pain is a difficult pill to swallow. thank you, mike pence. heather: and you heard, republicans want spending cuts equal to or greater than the amount of a debt limit increase. democrats want to raise taxes to increase revenues, an idea the republicans are firmly against. coming up we'll talk with virginia democrat mark warner who is on the senate budget committee. bill: tragedy at the ballpark, a father taking his son to see the tgz rangers, reaching out for a foul ball that was tossed to him and things went terribly wrong from there. heather: and new controversy around the president's health care law. why uncle sam could end up with much more power than we first thought. bill: here we go developing at this hour, umm berto pealo, shouting viva mexico, in the moments before he was convicted he was accused of beating and raping a girl in 1985, governor rick perry refusing to grant a last minute pardon despite pressure from the white house. >> denver hit with flash flooding, uprooting tree, knocking out power to thousands in colorado. >> prince william and his bride kate are coming to america this weekend, they're wrapping up a 9-day visit in canada. they were last receiving the traditional gift, which is a beautiful white stetson hat. >> in 1939, my great grandmother, queen elizabeth, the queen mother, said of her first tour of canada with her husband king george vi, canada made us. catherine and i now know very well what she meant. bill: there you are. the duke and duchess of cambridge heading to los angeles later today. welcome!! >> we see it at all baseball games all the time, players tossing balls up into the stands to grateful fans, but that routine, it turned into tragedy at texas rangers ballpark, it was when a man trying to catch a ball tossed from the outfield falls over a railing. he plunged 20 feet to his death and it happened right in front of thousands of horrified onlookers, his young son. adrian hulo of fox affiliate kdfw is live from outside rangers ballpark in arlington with more on this awful story. aidan. >> reporter: we're learning more about that fan who fell to his death here at rangers ballpark in arlington. he's a 39-year-old firefighters from brownwood, an hour and a half southwest of fort worth and he was here with his young son, estimated somewhere between six and eight years old, it was during the second inning of the game that josh hamilton tossed him a foul ball, he apparently caught the bull for a moment but miss momentum carried him over that railing near the left field scoreboard. another fan tried to catch him as he fell but he fell head first, 20 feet down into an area behind the left field scoreboard and in front of the opposing team's bullpen and at that time, we are told that he was responsive, he was moving, he was worried about his son, who was still up in the stands by himself. paramedics loaded him into an ambulance, took him to the hospital, but he died. he went into full cardiac arrest on the way to the hospital, pronounced dead about an hour after the fall. the players, including josh hamilton, who tossed that foul ball up there were told about the death after the game. here's rangers owner nolan ryan regarding that. >> i think, as any of us would be, josh is very distraught over this, as the entire team is. >> reporter: last year, another man, another firefighter, actually, tell from the stands here at rangers ballpark as well, he was in the hospital for a couple of days but survived. back in the mid '90s a woman fell as well, after she fell there were changes made to the railings, they went from roughly 2 1/2 feet high to about 4 feet high. heather, back to you. heather: just an awful story and the images of that little boy watching his dad fall 20 feet below, horrible. bill: really feel for that son. heather: you're a big baseball fan, you've been to a lot of parks. bill: it's tradition when you see the players toss the ball up to the fans. it's part of the relationship here. it's such a shame to see it. heather: and apparently they've taken precaution, they've raised level. bill: may have to raise it -- that son is going to need a lot of support from that community. the jobs number is out. in moments, the speaker of the house, john boehner, will be out to talk about it. he was tweeting earlier, saying where are the jobs? we'll take you to the news conference when it begins in moments heather. heather: plus when food attacks. the banana that took on a gorilla. >> bill: okay, fox news alert now, want to let you know we're waiting on a few veants at the moment, top of the box on the righthand side, house speaker john boehner will walk out any moment and talk about the jobs report that came out about an hour ago, then the president will talk about it, about 10:30 eastern time, that's about, oh, 55 minutes from now. of course, the news this morning is unemployment. it has ticked higher from 9.1%, to 9.2%. hiring at a near stand still, adding only 18,000 net jobs. you see the jobless claims. that's over the past week of 418,000. in order to start cutting into the big, big number of unemployment you have to get that number to around 250,000 or even less than that. now you see what the dow is doing, only two minutes into trading, off triple digits already, the dow 30 frankly has been flying, up over 12,700. it's taken a hit, it's early but we'll see where it goes. at the moment it is trending lower. molly henneberg is live at the white house with the reaction. they can't be pleased with these numbers, molly. good morning. >> reporter: the numbers show a very painful economic situation for a lot of americans, unemployment, you just showed the number, it's ticked up for the third consecutive month in a row to 9.2% and not a lot of jobs have been added over the past two months. may numbers were revised down from 54,000 to 25,000 net jobs added. that's public and private sector. and in june, 18,000 net jobs added. to give you a point of reference, as you look at those numbers, the u.s. economy needs to add about 125,000 jobs each month just to keep up with population growth and at least 250,000 jobs each month to start bringing down the unemployment rate. the president will be speaking in the next hour from the rose garden. he said earlier this week that he believes that his economic decisions, including the recovery act or stimulus plan, were the right thing to do for the nation and the economy, but he said he didn't realize the, quote, magnitude of this recession until into his first year of his presidency and the president said he probably should have prepared the american people better or more effectively than, quote, it was going to take a while for us to get out of this. bill: on the other side, republicans and john boehner, you can expect, are going to slam these polices in the wake of this report. what's the expectation molly? >> >> reporter: you're going to hear from boehner and other republicans any minute now. boehner put out a statement that the american people are still asking the president, quote, where are the jobs. he went on to say in the statement which we expect him to elaborate on, quote, today is more evidence that the misguided stimulus spending binge, excessive regulations and overwhelming national debt are holding back private sector job creation in our country. keep in mind, this report comes out amidst intention negotiations about what to do about the debt limit. bill: you're right on that, big meeting sunday at the white house. here's speaker boehner on the hill. >> after hearing this morning's jobs reports i'm sure the american people are still asking the question, where are the jobs. the stimulus spending binge, excessive government regulations, and our overwhelming debt continue to hold back job creators around our country. tax hikes on families and job creators would only make things worse. and to help our economy get back on track the house has passed several bills that would remove government barriers to private sector job growth. we're going to vote on two more bills in the weeks to come and we hope the senate will take those bills up. we also need to stop washington from spending money that it doesn't have. we need serious reforms that restrain future spending. you've heard me say before a debt limit increase that raises taxes or fails to make serious spending cuts won't pass the house. we hope our democrat counterparts will join us and seize this opportunity to do something big for our economy and frankly, for our future, and help get americans back to work. >> good morning. you know, there's a lot of talk about progress that we are having and hope to have around these negotiations at the white house, and i know a lot of questions that were asked about why the -- about the biden talks, and if you look at the jobs report and the result of current polices and where we are in this economy, that's why the biden talks have to end, because the talks turn to the other side insist thank we raise taxes. that just does not make sense for americans to suffer under higher taxes in an economy like this, and the speaker said there's no way the house of representatives will support these taxes. >> bill: that's eric cantor. here coz kevin mccarthy, republican from california. the lines have been drawn and you heard the speaker repeat many things he said about entitlement reform and spending is the problem, not revenue is the problem, the issue today in washington, d.c. big meeting on sunday. there was a meeting early they are week, too, and it's painting different images for the american public based on the talks behind closed doors. we'll see whether or not. heather: a lot of people saying, bill, part of the problem, the president concentrated too much on this, obama's health care law, and apparently, one of the main parts of it is in jeopardy. the president said that people without insurance from their jobs would be able to shop for health plans in exchanges set up by 2014, but now policy experts say that many states are not going to have their exchanges set up by that deadline, and if that happens then uncle sam steps in. grace turner is president of the gailen institute which is a research organization that focuses on free market health reform. thank you very much for joining us. >> good morning heather. heather: tell me a little more about these insurance exchangings, what in fact are they supposed to do? >> we are in the midst of this budget crisis. talking about setting up -- that they have to set up these huge new exchanges to incident hundreds of billions of dollars in new subsidies, while 38 states, or 28 states are challenging the law and the courts, and basically saying that we don't want to implement this law in the first place, but yet, if they don't, then the feds are going to come in and do it, so it's a huge, huge dilemma for the states to set up these massive new bureaucracies to implement a law that they don't want to implement, to distribute hundreds of billions of dollars in subsidies that we don't have. i think it's indicative of how flawed this legislation is, and how much it's really distracting people from thinking about jobs and thinking about what is this law doing to deter employers from hiring. i think it's all part of the same conversation. heather: with that job report that just came out today, not good news. so what happens if, in fact, the exchanges, they've been set up, this money has been spent, the time has been spent, and the health care law is declared unconstitutional, then we just -- it's a wash, just a lot of wasted money and time? >> well, i think that's actually what the states are thinking. you've got only ten states that passed legislation to set up these new exchanges, these new bureaucracies to distribute this money, and those ten states really, some of them, haven't done much beyond that. the rest of them are thinking why should we do all this if the law is either declared unconstitutional by the supreme court, likely if it happens, that would be a year from now, or if it's repealed by the next congress. so they're just saying why should we go through all this if, in fact, this law is not even going to be in place, but if they don't, then the federal government comes in and basically takes over and runs it themselves and takes away the authority for the states. so they're really over a barrel. >> just around and around in circles. thank you very much, we appreciate you joining us. thank you. bill: 20 minutes before the hour, lawyers say the american public deserves to know how jurors decided casey anthony's fate, they claim releasing their names is all part of a fair judicial system. but would doing so make the former jurors a target? judge belvin perry thinks so. listen: >> you realize that there are folks out there that want to do crazy things? >> there are, your honor, and we realize that. >> like fillet open someone? bill: we learned late last night that casey anthony will be spending her time in jail a few days longer. she'll be out nine days now, casey anthony awaiting her release next sunday after the acquittal on murder charges, but many questions linger including the bombshell allegations that george anthony molested his daughter as a young girl. can he sue on such an allegation? here's what the anthony family attorney said earlier today here on fox news. >> in the opening statement, mr. baez made some very, for lack of a better term, fantastic remarks about george anthony, about the sexual molestation, about george having something to do with moving the body, and before he made any questions or asked anybody anything or proffered anything he didn't have immunity but in the state of florida, once you ask even one question of anybody involved in the trial, you get immunity, so we can't have -- we can't venue him. bill: wow, they cannot sue, we hear. diana tenis, orlando defense attorney, good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: is that the case? >> that's absolutely the case. that absolutely the case. and it must be the case, bill. you cannot have defense attorneys worry that what they say in opening statement might not play out that way during trial and you know what, the alternative is, bill, she cannot sue the prosecutor for calling her a baby killer. so lawyers have to be free to tell the jury what they think the evidence is going to be and to make those arguments. bill: can they work to disbar this attorney as he suggested there? >> i think that there is absolutely no reason to believe that jose baez act the unethically, if he believes the evidence is going to show that, whether it ultimately did or not, that's absolutely his prerogative, he cannot force his client to testify if she changes her mind during the trial, that is definitely not a disbarment -- >> bill: how does it work, when you're allowed to say whatever you want in opening statements and not back up any of it by the time you get to closing arguments? >> i will say that i certainly gave my own critique of this opening statement, not having been fulfilled during the trial. i would say that the -- the defense would say there's inference that the jury could draw and that ultimately they can't control whether their client testify. i thought the jury would hold it against him to be honest. apparently they didn't. bill: i got to tell you diana folks like yourself and the legal experts that came on in the past month, that's what we said, hey, if you say it in opening statements you got to back it up in trial, otherwise you're going to pay the price and in this case he did not based on this jury's verdict. >> he did not, and we were wrong about what find of effect that -- kind of effect that would have. bill: should the judge have allowed that, did he screw that snup. >> no. the judge can't control your opening statement. you give it at your own peril, and a lot of juries are going to hold it against you if you make allegations that you don't prove. so i think this was a special group of 12. i'm not going to start trying this tomorrow, saying stuff in opening statement that i don't think the evidence is going to support. the judge could have stricken that opening statement, could have made it more clear to the jury that was a mistake. i think ultimately jose baez got lucky this jury listened and did not hold it against him. bill: i want to talk about another issue. i'm assuming that within about a week's time, the names of the jurors will be released, based on law and the challenges, freedom of information act that is currently underway in florida. so far we've heard from juror number three, juror number two released a statement but no identity given. this is what the judge said just yesterday about the potential danger to jurors in florida, if that information goes public. listen: >> do you realize that there are folks out there that want to do crazy things? >> there are, your honor, and we realize that. >> like fail eh open someone ? put an assault on that person? >> yes, sir, and these are the concerns that all of the participants in this trial have. >> was he citing a threat there or was that off the cuff? >> bill, you've got to understand, this town has been absolutely wacko the last few days over this verdict. i've never seen such public displays of unhappiness at frankly our system at work, but i think the judge is really, truly concerned. i think some of these jurors are pretty concerned. and i'm hoping, frankly, that despite the fact that i think you might be right legally, if the judge denies their request and they appeal it, at least by the time the names are released, we'll have a little bit of a cooling off period, because things are very hot in this town. bill: yeah, diana tennis, thank you for coming new york it's good to get your perspective on all of this. thanks again. heather. heather: as we wait to hear from the president on those disappointing jobs numbers, the man running his reelection campaign, he says unemployment will not really matter to voters in 2012? that's what he says. is he right? our panel weighs in. bill: also heather there is new trouble for the tsa. how a security agent sold $50,000 in electronics online before his shift was even over. try that. >> the tsa, they're screened, they go through background checks. and obviously, he should have been cleared, but i don't know what happened. >> bill: it is not every day when a banana attacks a gore yale, or when someone does it in a banana costume, that gorilla is a mascot for the store in the state of ohio. onlookers were nearly speechless! >> a kid just emerged out of the bushes, out of nowhere, in a banana costume and started sprinting as quickly as he possibly could at our gorilla. the kid in mid air, flying like this, like something, like a spartan from 300, kind of, except he was a banana. bill: and spoiled with animation! kind of. after the attack, the banana split! fortunately the person is doing fine, he got back up on 2hind legs and kept working. half off! >> the banana split! major developments in the hacking scandal involving the u.k. paper news of the world to tell you about, police arresting a former editor who was also an aide to british prime minister david cameron. all this comes just a day after it was announced that the paper is being shut down, its employees accused of hacking the voice mails of murder victims and their relatives, politicians and celebrities. the paper is owned by news corporation, the parent of fox news. senior foreign affairs correspondent amy kellogg is live for us in london with the latest on this. hi amy. >> reporter: by heather. the story is quite big over here, some of the headlines, newspaper sacrificed to save one woman, world's end is another headline today, and then this one, goodbye cruel world. now, as you mentioned, the latest development is that a former editor of news of the world was also prime minister david cameron's righthand man, andy colson has been arrested by police and also, heather, the news of the world's former royal editor who had already done jail time for phone hacking has been rearrested by police for allegations that police were paid for information. but it is andy colson who was causing the prime minister here a headache. he was hired after having resigned from news of the world in connection with the phone hacking scandal. the conservative party then in opposition went on to hire him for a reported salary of $800,000 a year for services which ultimately led david cameron and andy colson to number ten downing street. >> he resigned from the news of the world because of the things that happened on his watch. i decided to give him a second chance and no one has ever raised serious concerns about how he did his job for me. but the second chance didn't work out and he had to resign all over again. the decision to hire him was mine and mine alone, and i take full responsibility for it. >> now, heather, previously, candy colson has said he knew nothing about the phone hacking that was allegedly going on at news of the world. he's been questioned by police before. but because now this phone hacking has gone from being just celebrities, royals and politicians to possibly murder victims and terrorism victims, family members of that group of people, it's become more serious and police want to talk 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[ gnome ] it's go time. bill: a "fox news alert" now, good morning, everybody, 10:00 a.m. in new york and 7:00 al-in california, the president will speak to the country in 30 minutes as the unemployment rate ticks higher, yet again, the jobless rate rising from 9.1 to 9.2%, in june. increasing now for a third month in a row. the wrong direction, on this figure. good morning, everybody, brand new hour, i'm bill hemmer on a friday. how are you doing, heather. heather: good it is friday but not good news to begin with. i'm heather childers, 2.5 million jobs were lost since the president took office and the unemployment rate stuck above 9%, for 24 of the last 26 months, so, what can the president possibly say to ease the nation's anxiety? bill: want to bring in bret baier, anchor of "special report." how does the white house address such a negative headline. >> i assume we'll hear the president from the rose garden talk about the consecutive months of private sector job growth. 57,000 private sector jobs were added but, overall, the report is really dismal for the administration, going up to 9.2%, adding 18,000 jobs and deep in the report is an adjustment for the month of april and may, saying 44,000 more jobs were lost in those two months. and so as you look back at this report, it is really detrimental for the administration and will be interesting to see how the president deals with that. as you mentioned already, republicans are hammering the administration, on where are the jobs. and, the president at the twitter town hall said the question, tweet from the house speaker boehner, with the question, where are the jobs was skewed and republicans obviously jumping on that. bill: in fact, jim hensarling, out of texas, here's part of how the republicans are going after the issue. listen here: >> the president's stimulus programs, tax increases and class warfare rhetoric created jobs in america, we would be the most highly employed society in the history of civilization. clearly, we are not. bill: that phrase, class warfare is something republicans are using more and more, aren't they, bret? >> sure, especially in the context of debtand the meeting sunday at the white house and you are seeing republicans jump on david plouffe, senior advisor to the president, his comments in an interview, saying americans will vote in 2012, not on the unemployment rate, they don't see the economy through the prism of the gdp or unemployment rate but see it through how they are affected personally and i think there is the premise here that republicans are trying to set up the story line the administration is disconnected from the unemployment problem. and, that potentially could stick, politically, no president has been reelected since world war ii. with an unemployment rate above 7.5%. bill: we're a long way from that, right now, bret, thank you, see you at 6:00 today, on sunday morning, working with chris wallace, too, okay? >> you got it. heather: there's new numbers showing roughly 30% of those unemployed have been out of work for a year or more. and that is 4 million people. and, eric bolling of the fox business network joins us now. so, eric, what does it tell us? >> the economy is not producing jobs and we went from 9.1 last month to 9.2% and there are disturbing numbers, 18,000 jobs. let me put it into perspective, 18,000 jobs the economy created last month. 3.2 million high school students graduated from high school, every year. 6 % of them go on to college, that leaves 32%, and leaves a million people on -- looking for jobs, just from high school alone, when we produce 18,000 jobs, it tells you there is clearly, clearly not enough. this number, to get from 9.2 to 8%, by election day, we'd have to produce 230,000 jobs every, single, solitary month. and, president obama last month, called it a blip in the road, and this has -- a bump in the road and it has become a massive pothole. heather: i remember when he called it that and we're not talking about the under employed. that is not even included, right? >> that's right. add -- the u-6 number and add in under employed you are pushing 25 million people, who are either out of work, or under employed, taking jobs, just to put food on the table, and gasoline in the car and the economy really, we really need to start doing other things, number one, would be getting the price of oil down and, frankly the obama administration has done nothing to that effect and the spr release they did a month ago? oil prices are substantially higher than that time and things are not going well and bret baier pointed out david plouffe saying, don't worry, 2012 will not be about jobs. guess what? yes, it is. heather: absolutely. we'll talk more about that in our political panel, coming up. stay tuned for it, thank you very much, eric bolling. >> thanks, heather. bill: it will be a moment of history and we are waiting now the time lift off of the shuttle program set to go about an hour from now. from the kennedy space center, ending nasa's three decade-old shuttle program. that has had i norms success. what is next after today. doug mcelway is live at the smithsonian air and space museum in washington. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, to you, bill, a lot of people fear that nasa's future is not going to be near as bright as its past and the past is reflected in this incredible exhibit hall here, the milestones of flight hall, is the national air and space museum and look at the single room, the wright brothers flyer. up there, to the side of that, a plane any kid, my age, who group up in the early '60s who recognize, the f-15, the first plane to fly at mach 4, 67 miles high into space, virtually and the spirit of st. louis, off to my left, here, first plane to fly nonstop across the atlantic ocean and to my right, friendship 7, the first american capsule to orbit the earth. with the shuttle program coming to an end now, the u.s. will have no way of sending man up into space. it is a twitter town hall meeting this week and the president indicated nasa has a bright future, and an ambitious schedule, and here's a bit of what he said. >> president barack obama: we've set a goal to let's ultimately get to mars, a good pit stop is an asteroid -- we haven't identified the actual asteroid yet, in case people are wondering... >> reporter: indeed nasa does have plans to visit an asteroid and, critics say that is not a good pit stop, because asteroids don't have enough gravity that i man can walk on that and there is no connection there, bill. bill: you know, doug, are there concrete plans to get humans back into space? government or private? >> reporter: not really. there is no funding for any specific mission to get man back into space. but, the administration has a the lot of hopes for private space outfits like space-x, and the virgin galactic outfit on the west coast and i spoke to one of the foremost space experts, john pike, who is pessimistic about nasa's future. and here's a little bit of what he said: >> right now it is basically just contractors, feeding at the trough. no clear mission. free government money and they are all trying to get a piece of it. >> reporter: pike said in closing our interview, if god meant for man to fly into deep space, he would have given us a lot more money and providing money is something politicians are not much interested in these days, bill. bill: while you are talking we're looking at the count down clock in florida and we'll wait an wave and see. thank you, doug, doug mcelway in d.c. full coverage of the lift off, shepard smith is on deck, cape canaveral and anchors or coverage beginning at 11:00 a.m. and we'll talk with him later this hour and see if it is a go! stay tuned. heather: the search for answers after a shooting rampage in michigan. 7 people gunned down in cold blood including two children. police say that this man, an ex-con, who eventually turned the gun on himself. >> we had officers in the house, on known and talked with him when the incident occurred. and we knew it was gunshot wounds for a number of reasons and, i can't believe it. at the moment that it occurred, as i said, he threatened people earlier, threatened to shoot, and, at the time that the incident occurred, he was talking about coming out, and giving himself up and, obviously, chose at the last moment to fire the gun and take his own life. heather: the bloodshed evolving into a high speed police chase, and a hostage situation, that stretched into the night. police in grand rapids are now trying to answer a whole lot of question including why. mike tobin is live for us with the latest. so, mike, what did we in fact -- what do we know? >> reporter: well, we know when negotiators confirmed that he had hostages inside of that house, the hostages were at great risk because they knew he was armed at that point, the order went out over the radio, if they hear another gunshot the police officers were to storm the house and end it by force. but, as you heard from the police officer, they were in communication with him and his demands were all over the map, at one point he demanded police officers come in and kill him and demanded that people stop shouting at him and he was threatening the hostages in the process and police said at one point he was willing to give himself up and they heard the one final gunshot confirming, later, that he shot himself in the head. the whole stand off followed a gunfire filled high speed chase through the streets of grand rapids, a police car was smashed and a bystander was shot in the shoulder and he smashed his vehicle on an embankment and stormed the house and took hostages, sporadically firing shots at police officers. heather. heather: good grief. thank you very much. we appreciate it. mike tobin reporting live. bill: tragedy that is. heather: yes. bill: they are supposed to keep us safe while we fly but a tsa agent was too busy pilfering pricey items from passengers. wait until you hear what he took and how he was caught, you will not believe it. heather: and, breaking news on the debt debate. why speaker boehner says the two sides are far apart and the president says both sides will have to suffer. >> president barack obama: there's going to be pain involved politically, on all sides, but, our biggest obligation is to make sure that we are doing the right thing by the american people. heather: virginia senator mark warner joins us live, after the break. hey, the new guy is loaded with protein! really? 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>> bill, i think we have both problems. and, again, the numbers don't lie. we are spending too much, 25% of our gdp on federal spending, all-time record high and our revenues are roughly 15%, a 70 year low and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that delta is too large and any time we have been close to balance, roughly revenues and expenditures have been in that 19 to 20, 221% range and the president has offered entitlements and we have to get revenues back up to the historic levels if we get close to starting to bend the curve. bill: you saw the jobs number last hour, right? it's not good. americans bumping along, right now and you can feel it and see you it, just about every state and city across the country. why raise taxes now? >> well, bill, when i think the best job creation we could do is put a long term debt and deficit deal in place and again, what we have been talking about is not raising taxes, it is actually back to the reagan approach which is lowering tax rates, and taking out some of these tax expenditures and making the tax code not the 70,000 page monstrosity it is now but make it simpler and more fair. bill: the question is right pocket or left pocket, depending on where you get the money. can something like that pass not in the senate chamber but the house? you know that is where you have to get agreement in order for anything to go through. >> if we're looking for a plan to get everybody on the right or left to come together we are frankly probably wasting our time, and the country will go over the cliff and we don't have tools available we had two years ago. like 'em or not, federal stimulus, monetary policy, traditional tools that have been used, when we have had recessions in the past and we don't have those tools available anymore and, to mess with our nation's credit worthiness with the uncertainties in europe, is just plain irresponsible. let's be willing to have both sides get a little -- recognize there will not be a democratic or a republican win on this and do major tax reform, and major entitlement reform. bill: we'll see if the ball moves at all on sunday. here's what we find in our polling. and i think this is significant. we asked americans, do you support a balanced budget amendment? 72% say yes. but when we ask about program cuts, okay? the balanced budget amendment, 72% and, we asked, willed you be willing to take cuts in medicare and other entitlement programs? 63% are against it. and when we ask about tax hikes, 62% were against that. and, as we spoke last hour, mike pence on the republican side, the question to you this hour is pretty obvious. that is your debate and what we need to figure out. >> bill, if we continue that -- politicians will say i'll cut your taxes and increase spending and both sides have been guilty of that, you get a $14 trillion debt and something we add $4 billion a day to when we don't have to, the american people, if we tell them the truth, we're in a real blind at this point, they know it in their gut and it will take shared sacrifice and everybody has skin in the game and it will require changing our tax code and changing entitlement programs and cutting back domestic discretionary spending and defense spending and will be the single biggest job creator if we get the $4 trillion plan into place. bill: mark warner, thanks for your time. heather? 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[ major nutrition ] new ensure hh protein. ensure! nutrition in charge! bill: this will be something else as we await history now and the clock is ticking down to the launch of the space shuttle atlantis, if the weather holds out, in a moment, that is a big "if" it will mark the end of nasa's three decade space program an anchoring our coverage live is shepard smith, cape canaveral, florida. now, playing the role of janice dean, the weather machine! how is it looking down there? >> it is better than it probably looks on tv, bill. i was thispeaking with tom jone an astronaut and a fox news contributor and he says the ceiling is high enough and this morning when they gassed it up they thought it was and exercise in futility and they were in practice mode and the ceiling is high. you have to have 20 miles around ksc without any rain showers at all, because the rain showers can damage the heat shields and that would make a turn around and landing difficult. and, in addition you cannot have rain showers because of visibility, in the event they have to land the thing in an emergency landing, with in 15 minutes after take-off. so, the clock that you will see in a second will stop at nine minutes and when it stops at nine minutes, according to tom jones, the weather folks will take over and will evaluate the situation, and look at the radar and the melbourne florida radar loop to find out exactly what the situation is and will decide whether we're a go for count down or whether they'll put it off. there is another launch window available tomorrow, and, another one available on sunday but, tom jones, the former astronaut, believes they won't try it again tomorrow, for reasons that will be obvious to a lot of folks around here. you can see the clock stopped at nine minutes behind me. that is the normal thing that and they always do that to let the weather people do evaluating and it will begin at this moment. but the thing about tomorrow is, there was a time when nasa had enough employees, and enough shifts so they could try one day and try the next but now they've laid off so many people and pared down so much tom jones at least believes yesterday -- tomorrow, i mean, probably will not be an option. if it doesn't agree today it will go on sunday with any luck from the weather gods but i cannot wait to see this. i worked down here in the orlando and miami market for years and i've seen a lot of these things and saw john glenn go up, the astronaut, john glenn go up and that was an amazing sight. and cannot wait for this thing to happen. the final launch of a shuttle, hard to believe, isn't it? bill: sure is, it is something else to see. and, being down there a month ago for the shuttle endeavour, it is something you never forget and, you know what surprised me the most, talking to people down there, how many people say they cry when they watch a shuttle lift off. arcing over the ocean blue sky... it may not be ocean blue today, probably filled with clouds but when it goes -- and we talk to the governor of florida a few days ago, and you are looking at 8,000 jobs on the line, marking the end of a 30-year run of outstanding success for nasa. what is next? >> well, next they try to keep everybody employed, private companies are coming in and they'll concentrate on research and new science projects and in addition, feeding, if you will, the international space station. and there is still a lot of work to be done here. the space coast in brevard and volusia county, east of orlando are proud of the facility and the contribution they've made to the nation and our world, for that matter and everybody is as sad as the next but i think they understand the situation the united states is in, right now. we're not out of money, figuratively, we are out of money. and this has to cut back and they seem to understand that. there's a lot of sadness around here. compared to other launches i have been to. there are a lot fewer people involved this time but, bill, they are expecting 450, 500,000 people and some estimates, 750,000 people to watch this thing along the cause way, and, titusville and along the space coast up and down. it will be a really memorable moment, to feel the earth move beneath you and the noise that is like nothing you have ever heard before. our crew of 20 or 30 are mighty excited and i think the space coast and probably the whole country is. bill: light the candle as they say, right? >> do it! bill: thank you, shepard, live coverage of the lift off, shepard covers all the action, kennedy space center, will start at 11:00 a.m. eastern time, 25 minutes from now. if you are near a computer, and not a tv, catch it streaming live at foxnews.com. heather: and, the "fox news alert" for you, the president about to speak any minute now, as brand new jobs numbers show americans are still feeling the pain. we'll take you there, when it happens keep an eye on that and, the unemployment rate for june rising to 9.2%, hiring nearly frozen. but according to president obama's top campaign advisor, he won't have to worry about it, not for this coming up election in 2012, because numbers like the unemployment rate will not decide the re-election race. juan williams, fox news political analyst and brad blakeman, former deputy assistant to george w. bush join us now to talk about this and more. thanks for joining us, guys. >> you are welcome. heather: before i get to you, i want to look at exactly what david plouffe had to say. here's the quote for you. he began by saying the average american does not view the economy through the prism of gdp are unemployment rates, or even monthly jobs numbers. people won't vote based on the unemployment rate, they will vote based on this: how do i feel about my own situation? do i believe the president makes decisions based on me? and my family? and went on to say their decision next year will be based upon two things. how do i feel about things right now, and, ultimately, campaigns are always much more about the future and then he went on and on. juan, how can that possibly be? >> well i think he's onto something, a little bit of wishful thinking in there, when people hear the numbers, 9.2%, it produces such anxiety and, we all thank god, if we have a job, and try to hold on to it. but the fact is that most americans do have a job and what he's talking about is people will say, we were in a bad situation and brad may say that is looking back towards president bush but if we're on a trajectory to take us out of the situation and believe we are heading in the right direction and the president is acting rationally and does care about me and my middle class family, then people are likely to not vote solely on the dismal numbers that indicate, you know, 9.2% unemployment. heather: what do you think, brad? is it a matter of believing or do we really need those jobs out there? >> well, juan hit on something and that is, what all politicians fear, especially one seeking to reelect as president and that is, is the country on the right or wrong track and how do americans feel? we know the answer to that, today, is 75% or more americans across the board believe america is heading down the wrong track and the other question voters ask themselves, as they enter the booth in november of 2012, is, am i better off today than i was four years ago? and this answer is clearly no. with gas price, over 125% higher than when obama took office and unemployment 9.2%, over 25 million americans, either out of work, under employed or stopped working, i think david plouffe absolutely has it wrong and wishful thinking on his part... i can't believe what he's saying, there is no way the president will be reelected with these numbers continuing. heather: juan, if you look at past history, ten incumbents presidents who have run for re-election since 1945 and when unemployment was below 6% they won and above, they lost with one exception, that being ronald reagan. >> it's not just about president obama, somebody has to be on the other side with a better idea. it's not like americans as we go through the deficit -- raising the debt ceiling, negotiations, not like everybody says, i have a great idea here, i'm sure it will produce jobs and why aren't we doing it? everybody is looking for the best ideas and i think that is what distinguishes it, heather, from the president that you are talking about, clearly, this is not a great economic situation but do americans put in the perspective or say it is all president obama's fault. now if you ask americans who is to blame, disapprove, it is high numbers on president obama's performance in terms of handling the economy but there is a greater percentage of disapproval for republicans in congress and in general, in terms of handling the economy. so it is a matter of what is available. not just as republicans would like a referendum on president obama it is also a matter of what ideas are republicans bringing to the table to resolve the issue. >> we are waiting for the president to speak now, you are looking again at a live shot from the white house. we'll see what ideas the president has, regarding these dismal unemployment numbers, thank you both for joining us, juan williams and brad blakeman, we'll bring you back when the president starts to speak. >> thank you. bill: she said the death penalty may have made a difference, a juror talking about the controversial verdict in the casey anthony trial and, mike huckabee with his firsthand experience, handing out this ultimate punishment when he was in charge of the state. and, heather: caught on tape. an ugly scene to say the least on a football feed in baton rouge, louisiana. two high school squads breaking out into and all-out brawl. fists flying and helmets ripped off as the pre-season practice goes completely off the rails! and it took coaches more than five minutes to get everyone calmed down an under control. fortunately, no one was seriously hurt. bill: and then they played the game, you should see those highlights! reaction from the one of the jurors, juror number 3, from the casey anthony trial, jennifer ford went on the record with her feelings about making the decision. >> if evidence was there, anything stronger that we could have used to convict, we would have. and, that is such a hard decision to make and you want to make the right decision, and obviously you don't want to let someone go free if they did something like that to an innocent, beautiful child but at the same time you have to prove it and it is a hard decision to make especially when you know you will get backlash but it was hard and stressful and, it was a long, grueling six weeks and, i don't want to have to make those kinds of decisions. bill: it is fascinating to hear from the jurors, frankly. former arkansas governor, mike huckabee had the duty of overseeing the death sentence carried out several times during his tenure as governor of arkansas. good morning. >> good morning, bill. bill: 16 death penalty cases. >> 16 over the course of ten-and-a-half years. bill: it is hard to get into the minds of these jurors and we're using the short segment of an interview, where they had hours to deliberate and days if not weeks to consider the case but you come at it from a different perspective because you have overseen numerous cases. >> it is one thing to talk about it, but i think people tend to say as i have seen the people on the courthouse lawn, saying i think she should have had the death penalty. it is easy to talk about that but when you take the pen in your hand and sign your name to the warrant that will start an irrevocable process of putting a human being to death, i'm telling you it is a different situation. as i faced and found myself, every, single time reamizing that many of the decisions i would make as a governor, somebody could come back and change but the one decision that was irrevocable, irreversibly irrevocable as the death sentence. bill: you have a case, christina marie rigg. >> yes, one of only 12 women, executed in the u.s. since 1976, since the death penalty was reenacted and people can say what they want to but i don't see how anybody could with a cavalier spirit carry out the death sentence an especially on a woman. there is something unseemly about the process. in this case, she had killed her two children, quite frankly as a governor i look for any reason in the world to commute that to a life without parole. she had been convicted by the jury and wanted no legal representation and did not any appeal and begged not to have any intervention and in fact demanded and insisted that her lawyers file no appeal for her and a went through every page of the transcript and looked at the forensic evidence and looked at the crime scene photos which were horrific and those scenes will never get out of my mind of those two dead children. and when it comes down to it you realize the jury made the decision and i didn't that he have right to decide on my own outside of the law and that is part of the process. even in the casey anthony trial. that is difficult. we are dealing with what does the law say, not what do i think? not what do i feel? i felt things, bill, i felt things i still feel today and will feel for the rest of my life. but, you cannot make these decisions on what you think and what you feel. you have to base it on what does the law say. bill: you say it was the toughest decision you made regarding the death penalty. because she was a woman. >> that was definitely a part of it. to take the life of a woman, particularly in this case, who had desperate situations, she was taking the lives of her children, because of a messy life and she didn't want her children to be divided and, tried to take her own life and failed at that. even though she took enough drugs that would have killed five people and, it was just a horrible fume tragedy from start to end. bill: i imagine we'll hear from the jurors quite bit over the next week. i expect the names to be released, and i think the judge will rule in favor of the challenges that the press is challenging at the moment, and they'll go public and then you'll have the mad scramble to talk to them and some will tell their story and some will hold out. would you expect to hear feelings like those from them -- >> i think you will hear it was difficult to put a woman to death, and, people can say what they want to, sexist, and we are supposed to be beyond gender but you have a feeling -- and i have a clear sense some of these jurors will say by going for the death penalty it gave them pause, that had it been a life without parole... bill: you are not a lawyer, you are a politician, former governor. >> yes. bill: but that is the suggestion the prosecution overtried the case. >> let me be clear. i'm not a lawyer. i have the same human reaction to the verdict everybody else did. i was outraged and i said you have to be kidding me. the woman will walk free and i think of all the things about the case that make me furiously angry, the little girl's death will go unavenged and i put the governor hat back on and go through the process i had to go through in dealing with cases like christina riggs and you say our justice system is far from perfect but has to operate within strict guidelines of what the law is and not what i feel and think. bill: there is strong reaction. >> i had it myself, bill. bill: and i know you'll have more of this -- >> alan dershowitz will be on my program this weekend and we have tommy pope, the prosecutor in the susan smith trial and we have jurors who were part of the other -- of the scott peterson trial. bill: susan smith, mid '90s, south carolina. a horrible story. see you this weekend, okay. >> thank you, bill. bill: thank you, governor. heather, what is next. heather: this latest on the shuttle atlantis, the astronauts are on board, strapped in and waiting to see whether they'll in fact launch, it could happen, under a half-hour, bill. bill: let's do it! on your mark, get set... here we go, right? 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