200 people. who can forget the awful carnage from those bombings. bill: prosecutors say that ghailani was a key player in those attacks. what do his attorneys argue? david lee miller, outside the federal courthouse in new york city. what's expected today, david lee? >> reporter: in about two hours' time, that's when we expect ahmed ghailani to appear in the federal courthouse before judge lewis kaplan. he was convicted of only one count, although he had been facing 285 charges. the one count he was convicted of was conspiracy to destroy u.s. property. for that single charge, he is now facing 20 years to life. his former attorney, who is now an observer to the trial, says he expects the judge to give ghailani life behind bars, but there is one footnote to all this. it had been said earlier that even if ghailani had been completely acquitted during the trial proceedings, he would still be detained as an enemy combatant. the bottom line, no matter what happens today, whether it's 20 years, life, whether the judge says he can be released on these charges, he's still going to remain in custody. bill: and tkweus attorneys, what do we expect to hear from the defense, david lee? >> reporter: you know, in the past few days, the defense filed a motion before the court asking for a new trial, saying that the findings of the jury didn't make sense, that they were inconsistent. they argued how can you find him guilty of one charge, and essentially acquit him of 284 other charges. well, the judge disagreed, he said there was clear, sufficient and abundant evidence that tied ghailani to the bombings. one very interesting development today that i'll tell you about very quickly, the defense is asking the court to give him a lesser sentence because they argue he made voluntary statements to the fbi, the prosecution is countering, to say those statements in the past, the defense argued, were, in fact, coerced. it all gets underway in a little less than two hours' time. bill: thank you for that, david lee miller will be at his post at the courthouse in new york city all day. thank you david lee. martha: another terrorists -- to another terrorist, the accused underwear bomber, umar farouk abdulmutallab is charged with trying to blow up a u.s.-bound flight from the netherlands on christmas day in 2009. a judge denying the 24-year-old's request to skip today's hearing. abdulmutallab is acting as his own attorney in this case, after firing his court appointed attorneys last fall, and as soon as we get word on that courtroom, we're going to take you there live and will bring you all the updates on that. bill: some expect president obama to call for, in part, investment in america, some republicans would say spending to get the country back to where it needs to be. immediate live after later this morning u. congressman paul ryan will respond to republicans, he's out of wisconsin, he will call for an end to the spending binge in washington. so is investment the same thing as spending, we're asking today. and in a moment, dennis kucinich weighs in, reacting to that, on both messages, and how democrats plan to tackle one of the biggest issues they see in america today. martha. martha: and ryan's response, interestingly, will not be the only one of the evening tonight. michelle bachmann also plans to deliver her own response on the tea party express website. that's going to come right after ryan. she will wait for ryan to finish and then come out with her response. now of course, she has been one of the tea party leaders, she formed the tea party caucus in the house of representatives and bachmann's and praoepl court justice scalia face criticism, and the caucus, justice scalia spoke at the capitol which bachmann insists was not a partisan event. this is a -- this has created brouhaha. listen to this. >> we had at least three democratic members who were present. i'm not sure if there were others but i noticed that there were three. i think only one stood up and asked a question. but we also opened it up to staff members as well, to both republican and democrat staff, because our opinion is the constitution is not a partisan document, it is an american document. martha: all right. a lot of controversy surrounding all of this. ahead, we're going to have more on ryan and bachmann, both delivering responses to the president's state of the union and whether that indicates, as you may hear in some quarters, that there is a split in the republican party. we're going to get our panel to weigh in on that. bill: republicans looking to roll back federal spending in a house vote in fact that will take place today, the vote on a nonbinding resolution would cut spending to levels before christmas -- before president obama took place. the cuts for agencies would be made when congress wraps up the long overdue fiscal year budget. the move expected to face strong resistance in the democratic-controlled senate. so watch that story martha. martha: how about this, eric cantor says do not come asking uncle sam for money. house majority leader with a very harsh message for cash-strapped states who are literally running out of money. he said don't even think about getting a federal bailout or filing for bankruptcy as we've heard a lot of lately. stuart varney joins me now from the fox business network with his take on this. cantor is taking a whole line on the state bankruptcy issue. >> a categoryual no bailout. let me tell you what he said. he said there will be no bailout. states can deal with this on their own. that seems like a pretty formal closing of the bailout door. certainly as far as congress and the republicans in the house are concerned. however, martha, tonight, we're going to get the state of the union message from the president, and by all accounts, he's going to call for investments in education and in infrastructure. if that's the case that means more spending on education and infrastructure going through the state. that's financial aid to the states. many are going to call that a back door bailout of the states. so you've got this formal closing of the bailout door by the house republicans, but maybe, just maybe, the informal opening of a back door bailout option by the president tonight. martha: you know, we've seen a lot of infrastructure money come into the states. it hasn't turned them around yet. and it doesn't solve their pension funding problems. >> no. $200 billion in the original stimulus package was money that went straight to the states. helping the states. $200 billion. maybe more to come in that president's state of the union message tonight. but martha, look. the thing is, it's a very pressing problem. increasing numbers of people are unwilling to lend money to the states. the states are running out of money, they need to borrow. who's going to fill that gap? >> martha: good question. good question. we're going to find ut out. thank you very much, stuart varney. stuart anchors "varney & co" that airs every day at 9:20 coming up over on the fox business channel. thank you stuart. bill: breaking news out of pakistan. we're getting reports of a homicide bombing. according to police there were at least seven people that are dead, when a bomb exploded near a shiite procession in the city of lahore, eastern pakistan near the border with india, the bomber reportedly threw a bag out of his car, blew himself up as police approached him. it's just crossing the wires now. not a lot more information on it than we just reported there. we'll keep an eye on it and when we get more we'll certainly pass it on to you. eight minutes past the hour. martha has more coming up. martha: just bubbling up, there's a big political story that's developing in chicago. president obama's former chief of staff rahm emanuel booted off the ballot for the city's next mayor. why he was pulled, whether it comes down to politics, and what his next move is. bill: also we're getting brand new video of the bombing at russia's busiest airport and what a scene of carnage this was yesterday. more than 35 dead. back to that story with an update today. martha: and house republicans saying if they can't repeal, then maybe they'll do a little pruning to the health care reform law, branch by branch. how do republicans plan to tackle this issue in a democratic-controlled senate? senator insurgent -- senator and surgeon john barrasso is going to be in to weigh in on that. >> this health care law that harry reid loves that the president is going to try to take credit for tomorrow, they took $500 billion from our seniors on medicare, not to save medicare, not to help medicare and our seniors, but to start a whole new government entitlement spending program for someone else. martha: well, new video into fox shows a moment that a deadly explosion ripped through a moscow airport. surveillance video recording that blast inside the busy arrival terminal. look at this in the back of your screen there. this is the arrivals terminal in the international area. it killed at least 35 people, injured 180 other people. investigators suspect at least one, possibly two, homicide bombers -- a witness said a suitcase near one of these bombers exploded. lots going on about the source of where this was. no one claims responsibility yet, of course immediately attention went to chechen insurgents who carried out previous homicide bombings in russia. what does this mean for airport safety in other cities? we have that coming up. bill: it is so graphic to watch that. two very different and clear messages on the u.s. economy coming from the white house and then from republicans today. first, the president, expected to say we need to invest more to get the country back on track. that's later tonight in the speech. but congressman paul ryan, republican, will deliver the republican response, expected to call for an end to, quote, spending binges in washington. democratic congressman dennis kucinich on the house government oversight committee, back in the newsroom. good morning, sir, how you doing? it's been a couple months since we have spoken. do you think america is ready for the tough love that's necessary to dig us out of a $14 trillion debt that increases by the day? >> well, if we're talking about ending the binges that -- where money went to wall street, or the spending binge that's going on at the pentagon, the binges that are going on in iraq and afghanistan, with just taxpayers' dollars, i'm all for that. if we're talking about something else, then we have a lot more to talk about. bill: they're talking about $2.5 trillion in cuts over the next nine or ten years. >> right. bill: you just look and i think holy cow, how did we ever get there in the first place? your point about wall street, you probably have friends that agree on that bailout, they call them tea party members, and they're your colleagues now in the house. >> right. bill: but when it comes to all this other spending, it really seems like we're getting two different stories here, one where the republicans are saying let's go ahead and cut, cut, cut, and what we expect from the president later tonight is to talk about more investing, and you know, republicans have already said about that word investing, they believe that's code for more spending. >> well, i can see the concern about spending, and again, i voted against the bailout. i didn't like the fact that we gave all this money to wall street, and you know, the banks basically hraord -- hoarded the money, there are still businesses struggling to survive, they can't get loans from banks and the private sector even with the tax cuts hasn't responded shockingly enough to understand jobs. i have an understanding of what the concerns republicans have, however, if you talk about cutting discretionary spending that would result in lets say education being slashed, that's a problem. if you're talking about leaving the military budget status quo and continuing the wars, that's a problem. so i think it's important to get the details. and maybe tonight, mr. ryan and others will provide us with some details so we can have a discussion about what our priorities should be. bill: when it comes to spending and investment in america, from a business standpoint, not a political standpoint, it is said that american companies are sitting on $2 trillion in cash. just imagine that pile. and the reason they're sitting on it, not spending, so they're not quite sure what congress is going to do next. you can understand their confusion. >> well, i think it's very important that we get the economy moving. we have to get america back to work. we have to get the money moving in the economy. and i think there is a concern about business having confidence in the government. however, we have to realize that the basic problem in america right now is unemployment, you have 50 million people unemployed, you have another 12 million underemployed, businesses starved for capital, and we've got to prime the pump of the economy. you've got to be careful about putting the brakes on certain types of spending because that could send us into a deeper recession. bill: and that debate continues. fundamentally speaking, is washington going to spend more before it cuts? >> well, i would say it depends on what kind of spending you're talking about. i think we need to create millions of new jobs. we need another wpa, put america back to work, get more taxpayers actively contributing, where more americans are productive. bill: wasn't that what the stimulus was about in large part two years ago? >> the stimuluses -- the stimulus, as your report pointed out, provided money for states but the kind of stimulus we needed, we didn't get anywhere near that. the government ought to be investing in creating jobs and a lot of jobs. that way, everybody shares in the prosperity. right now we have a separation between the very wealthy in america and the middle class, who's starting to fall apart. we've got to start repairing the middle class. that's jobs, retirement security, investment in small business. i'm hopeful the president is going to address that tonight. bill: and you see that firsthand, because that's hit your district so hard in ohio. >> absolutely. bill: two ideas here. just give me a yes or no on the following that we'll hear later about tonight. replacing medicare with vouchers and allowing some workers to invest social security taxes in private accounts. >> not a chance. bill: thumbs up or thumbs down. not a chance? >> that's two thumbs up. down, rather. that's two thumbs down. no way. privatize social security, that's -- that's the bright red line of social security. you can't touch social security. look, just think about this, think if we had put social security money into wall street before the last crash. people would have lost everything they saved a lifetime for through their earnings. bill: but you know that all those investors -- >> for whom, for wall street. bill: all those investments came back. >> all the protections are given to wall street. all the guarantees are for wall street. main street is struggling to survive. you privatize social security and you're basically signing a warrant for the demise of our elderly people. you cannot privatize social security. you have to protect it from wall street. not hold hands with wall street as wall street picks the pockets of american seniors. bill: a lot of people say you have to do something about social security. listen, i'm out of time, please come back. we'll continue our debate. there is so much to talk about. dennis kucinich, democrat out of ohio. you can watch the state of the union address later tonight here on the fox news channel. it's the only place where you're going to hear it, 9:00. martha: let's talk about home prices, we just got a new report on them and prices have been falling in this most recent read on the housing market in america's largest cities, average prices in eight major markets have hit their lowest point since the housing bust. this index takes a look at 20 cities, home prices in all but one city, san diego, dropped in the last quarter. prices in atlanta, charlotte, detroit, vegas, miami, portland, oregon, seattle, tampa, have all set new lows since home prices peaked back in 2006. that's going to raise a lot of questions about whether or not that might be the bottom for home prices. everybody watching, you know, really the biggest investment in their personal portfolio, declining in value for the past five years now. bill: we've seen it month after month. so we will get not one but two responses later tonight from the same party. it's never happened to us before. not that i can remember. tea party caucus founder michelle bachmann, why two responses? she delivers one of them. what will she say that's so different? fair and balanced debate coming up on that. also -- >> martha: bill, this is not a sculpture, it's not something that you drink vodka out of at a party, for example. bill: and it's not my car! martha: thank goodness. winter in new york and all across this country, folks, some of the beautiful winter wonderland images, like a frozen car! we'll be right back. bill: how cold is it, huh? >> martha: pretty cold out there, bill! >> bill: say hello to the carcycli! many wonder how did this happen and now we know, a water pipe burst. we thought it was a fire hydrant, right? this created a huge problem on the street. passing cars kept slashing water on to -- splashing water on to the car, single digits sunday night, this is what you get. the car's owner pete said it was a bad night already because the jets lost to the steelers! >> martha: i'm with you pete. bill: this is the last thing he needed. here's pete. >> there was about a foot of ice on the ground, the front tire and back right tires were -- i think these are probably the 7-8 inches, give or take, depending on what part of the car you're looking at! >> i'm probably more sorry about the jets, to be honest with you. bill: he says he just touched the back window and broke it. or he could have just waited until today, where the temperatures are actually -- >> martha: yes. why didn't he wait until today! it's 30 degrees. it would have warmed up a little bit. then he just taps on the window and it shattered like a piece of candy. all right pete. that's the way it goes. let's go to chicago for a moment here. he looked like a really sure bet for quite some time in this race but now a lot of questions to be answered here today in chicago. millions of ballots are set to be printed without the name of that man on them who has been until now the top dog in this mayor's race, former congressman and white house chief of staff rahm emanuel, we all remember, who left the white house to go run for mayor in the windy city. a day after an appeals court, this is now crossed him off that ballot, following a challenge to his residency in the windy city. steve brown is going to lay this out for us with more. steve, obviously there's a lot of wheels turning in the emanuel camp today, trying to get this thing straightened out. >> reporter: we're going to start with the candidate. the yuan date is going on like he still is an eligible candidate to be the next mayor of chicago, rahm emanuel meeting with a group of teamster folks on the south side of the city, cameras will be there, we'll have video back relatively shortly. meanwhile his attorneys are burning the midnight oil continuously, we would imagine, over the course of the next several days. they've already filed an appeal to the illinois state supreme court. they're looking for a few things. first and foremost, they want a stay of the appellate court ruling which knocked emanuel off of the ballot. why? because the chicago board of elections is set to start printing ballots very soon because early voting starts on monday. so the emanuel legal team is looking for a stay on that decision and an emergency hearing for the high court to consider overturning the appellate court ruling. martha: all right so that leaves this question. thought we had a piece of sound there, steve. what about the other candidates, what's their response to all of this? i would think they'll be giddy about the prospect that things may have opened up a bit for them. >> well, it certainly has focused again attention on emanuel and the question of residency which has been dogging him but not really having an impact on his campaign. but candidates running against emanuel, particularly carroll moseley braun seem to be very pleased about this particular development and she used yesterday was announcement of the appellate court decision to make an appeal to chicago to -- chicagoans to come in, volunteer, vote, help out her campaign. it is believed that carroll moseley braun, while a popular figure in the city of chicago, has not had the campaign funds in order to run an effective campaign in the city. reportedly, she has cut two television commercials but -- cut two television commercials but looking to put them on the air. she's looking to alleviate that soon. martha: the mayor is chicago is said to be one of the most important politicians in this whole country. so it will be interesting to see how it plays out. bill: a lot of surprises when that decision came down. martha: can you imagine rahm emanuel's response when he thought of -- when he got that response? i would have loved to be a fly on the wall when he had that response. bill: a couple of dead fishes. he said, fishes. yeah. martha: we'll talk about your grammar later! bill: we shall. daily! all right, 28 minutes past the hour. >> reporter: we're going to turn to a topic that is quite disturbing. honor killings in america. her friend say she wanted to be a typical american teen aeurpblg. now prosecutors claim that's exactly why her father took her life. >> laura wanted to live her life, as you'll hear, like those her own age were living theirs, but this is a way the defendant did not approve. bill: now the defense has spoken and we will tell you what her father says happened that day. martha: all right, here's what's developing in "america's newsroom". in pakistan, a teen bomber, homicide bomber, blowing himself up near a shiite religious procession in the city of lahore, killing at least nine people and wounding many more. we'll have the details on that story. no plea bargain for the doctor accused in michael jackson's death, dr. conrad murray expected to plead not guilty in a pretrial aplaint. in egypt, thousands of protestors angry over rising prices, breaking through security lines, chanting "enough". >> and president mubarek, a rare strength of protest by the people, said to be inspired by opportunity eashan demonstrators who are documented here in an unbelievable video but last week they forced their president out. back to you. bill: if you are one of the millions of americans out of work, you have likely tried several strategies to get a job. well, some are turning to retraining programs in the hopes of finding employment. and fox's john roberts spent time with workers who have taken that avenue. >> when you're looking at the decline in manufacturing and jobs, a great place to look is st. louis. missouri is a political bellwether state and something of a bellwether when it comes to the economy and in the area of st. louis, the area around st. louis, the auto industry there which used to employ 15,000 people has all but collapsed, taking with it the local economy. severe effects there, that linger to this day. the president is going to talk in the state of the union tonight about the importance of education, and fueling jobs for the new economy but we found that talking with auto workers, even attaining skills and knowledge often isn't enough. >> opening day of the missouri legislationure, and in the house, democrat clinton smith, the freshman lawmakers who 18 months ago was making pickup trucks at the now closed chrysler plant. >> what was the mood like among fellow workers? >> oh boy. it was pretty bad. it was pretty bad, because people were in the same situation. there were people there 50 years old, had worked there 20 years. >> smith was among the lucky ones. out of work for four-months, he took a bailout funded retraining program, sent out hundreds of resumes and scored a union job building f-18 fighter jets for boeing and won a bid for office with a story that found residents with voters in his northwest st. louis district. >> if you could tell the president in the state of the union, which is -- this is what i want to hear about jobs, what would you tell him? >> i'd like to see more dollars going to worker training. a serious discussion about this is what we need to do. >> retraining programs like this green centering course run by the united auto workers union had been a life boat for some workers. michael moore who retrained in health care administration nearly two years ago is still adrift. >> it's frustrating and it's very depressing. it's just like what do i have to do to get any kind of job. >> 2 1/2 years without work had drained most of his savings, unemployment benefits will soon be gone, too. he has the training. the catch? with so many people looking for jobs, employers want seasoned workers. no job? no experience. no experience, no job. moore wants the government to do more, with more taxpayer money and more commitment from industry to increase hiring and sustain jobs. >> you're not happy with what this government has done so far with job creation? >> no. no, i'm not. i'm living proof. bill: even if michael moore does manage to find himself a job it likely won't pay him anywhere near what he was making at chrysler. we talked to a couple of auto workers e.1 of whom who has taken a job as hotel maintenance perpbg, the other working as a car salesman and both making well less than 50 percent of what they made on the assembly line. bill: a few of the 14 1/2 million americans out of work today. john, thank you. john roberts in atlanta. martha: well, with so many eyes on the state of the union address tonight, it is what's happening after the speech that may hint at a possible divide between the republican establishment and the tea party. that's getting a lot of attention today, because congressman paul ryan is going to deliver the official republican response, one of congress' budget hawks and right after him the tea party express will stream on their website congresswoman michelle bachmann's speech online and that will get a lot of attention on the cable network as well to be sure. now, she formed the tea party caucus in the house. i'll joined now by our great panel, phil mcgurran, mary ann marsh, former adviser to senator john kerry. what do you make of this discussion about people being shocked, there are going to be two responses in the -- responses from the republican party and the tea party in the form of michelle bachmann? >> my own impression is why would anyone want to deliver the official response, no one remembers t. it almost always makes the person look diminished because they're set against the president and the back of congress. so it's surprising they would have two instead of one. most would be wise to run away from it. martha: which chris christie did, right? >> very smart. martha: mary ann, they say it doesn't matter who responds, you say it does demonstrate there's a rift on the other side of the aisle. >> yeah, and i think the real question is who's really running the republican party. i mean, the fact is we may find out tonight it's the tea party and i think the implications of michelle bachmann's response will go beyond the state of the union and could influence the 2012 republican nomination. when you look at the first three contests, iowa, south carolina, new hampshire, iowa and south carolina are heavily influenced by the tea party, always go for the conserve teufplt now we have the surprise election over the weekend of a pea that's right member, jack kim balance, head of the republican party in new hampshire. bachmann is clearly looking to run for president and i think you have to start to take seriously that she could make a run at this and that's a problem for the republicans keeping the tea party in line. martha: sounds to me like that's what the democrats would love, they'd love to say this is a tea party rift. >> they might like -- >> martha: you're running for president, and you know, go right at her. >> they might like to say that. i'd say this is a problem republicans could have. last year this problem led to historic gains in the house. so if this is a problem for republicans, it's not a bad one to have. martha: you know, the defining thing here is going to be cutting spending. i think. when you look across the board, how serious are democrats are cutting spending, we're hearing the president is going to kind of paint a vision for the future, how we will win the future. it was told it's a theme for tonight's speech, they had democratic talking heads for lack of a better word come to the white house and gave what the points were going to be for tonight's speech, how to win the future. what do you think of that mary stphapb. >> i think the fact is barack william has two factors to get reelected, the economy and independent voters and what matters there is jobs and decifit reduction and that's what you're going to hear a lot of tonight, that's how he wins and there's no if, ands or buts about it. you have to create jobs and get people to work, you have to are revenue and get decifit reduction, independents, one integrated into the other. when you look at those facts and the challenge he has, i think what he's going to talk about is investment. we have to still invest, because china, rained and the rest of the world isn't waiting for us to cheen up our economy and we can't give do overs for our kids in schools because we have a bad economy. it's going to be a balance between investments and cutting and i think he's got the right mix. martha: paul ryan is being depicted as this budget hawk who wants to go after spending, bill, and that is the way that democrats want to portray any kind of spending cuts as a heartless, you know, to the people of this country who are in need. you know, who you how successful are they going to be at crafting the republican side with that message? >> i think that's not his challenge. i think his challenge is to do what mary ann says, to have a credible program for jobs and for spending, and this goes beyond words. look, the state of the union is mostly fluff. there's a lot of dramatics back and forth, a lot of great atmosphere, the president of the united states, talking to the represen, talking to the american people through tv and no one ever remembers the speech a week later unless there's some incident in it. so the real key is not what he says tonight, but what he does. he has to follow it up. people talk about bill clinton, how he repositioned himself. but bill clinton, you know, endorsed the nafta bill, signed the nafta trade agreement, bill clinton signed health care reform, so you have to go beyond the state of the union. this is for all presidents but especially president obama. martha: actions speak louder than words, mary ann, is the word there. are we going to see these actions, get this president truly to the center or is it lip service? >> well, i think that's a challenge not only for barack obama and the democrats, but also the republicans as well. and right now the democrats, i like the contrast i see. we have democrats talking about jobs and putting people back to work. but you have republicans focused on health care and abortion and i think that's what you see going into the first part of the congress, and it certainly nicely sets up president obama's reelection, which that speech does tonight. martha: mary ann, phil, thank you guys. bill: we have breaking news, the detroit metropolitan airport, southwest of detroit, they have found a package there near the area where they load cargo and luggage on to a plane. this is what we can talk about now, this is what we can report. a suspicious box was found at an area for loading considering oerbgs the box was found at 7:15 local time earlier this morning, so that's well over an hour ago , out of an abundance of caution that concourse has been evacuated and planes coming in to use that particular terminal have now been taken to other areas of the airport. details about why security officials thought the box is suspicious. it's not known yet. we're working a live picture, with our affiliate out of detroit enroute to the airport, this is 17 miles southwest of detroit. we're on that story. breaking news in "america's newsroom" in a moment. also, they say health care reform is costing america jobs. they say it will run our economy into a ditch. well, how do republicans plan to move forward with repeal efforts in the senate, we wonder? senator john barrasso, he's a doctor, he's got some ideas. he's next in three minutes. bill: they are calling it a rotten spree, that means pruning branch by branch, house republicans moving forward with efforts to skwraoup root the health care law, the house has voted. when will there be action in the senate? republican john barrasso out of wyoming, also arrest orthopedic surgeon, welcome back to "america's newsroom" mitch mcconnell, republican out of kentucky, said there will be a vote. how will it happen? >> harry reid says this is a wonderful bill. i think it's an awful bill and the american people deserve to have that vote. the house has done its job and has now sent it to the senate and harry reid is so proud of this bill, he shouldn't be afraid to bring it up for a vote in the senate. bill: there are a couple of points that republicans have been picking on. this 1099 form that requires businesses that make purchases up to $600 to report to the irs, there seems to be agreement on both sides that that should be amended. the individual mandate, though, there is no agreement on that, senator. >> well, with a 1099 form, the democrats put it in because they said they wanted to raise $19 billion in extra taxes to pay for this huge health care law which i believe is bad for patients, it's bad for the providers, the nurses and doctors who take care of those patients, and it is bad for our taxpayers. you know, we need to make it easier and cheaper to create jobs in this country, and this new whole set of regulations makes it much harder. that's the 1099 form and the expense of doing that. in terms of the individual mandate, you're hearing cries from that all around the country, the supreme court is ultimately going to make a decision on that. i believe in two years, i think it's -- i think it's unstill. that's why i'm working with others and i'm going to introduce a bill to give states the choice, a state health care choice act to say let's do in wyoming what works best for the people in woepling -- in wyoming, in new york, do what's best for new york, but don't have this approach from washington telling americans what they have to live on. bill: there's another option that's being debated, that has to do with flexible spending accounts, where you may be able to put $2500 into your account in january and you have that money to spend throughout the year. now, why would that be on the table? why would somebody want that in the bill? >> well, it's been there in the past. people have used these flexible savings accounts. it gives people an opportunity to shop around and look for a cheaper way, a way to keep their health care costs down, they like that, people that have them, but now, this health care law makes it a lot harder, even to the point that if you use some of that to go out and buy some tylenol or adville orioo advil or cane or ankle support, you have to get a prescription, so that raises the cost of care, if you have to go to the doctor to get a prescription for something you know is right for you or a member of your family and now the government says no, we're smarter than you that -- than you are, that's how the government is behaving, you need to go to a doctor to find out if you need aspirin or tylenol. bill: the commonality goes with our last point and that's taxes on insured, and what that flexible spending account does, it brings -- generates more money, right? and it generates more money to washington in order to pay for the bill and to pay for the uninsured. ultimately that's the goal here. >> well, there are a lot of gimmicks in this health care law to raise peoples' taxes and to make it some way to justify all this huge spending that actually is going to start a whole new entitlement program. you know, look at it, they're cutting $500 billion from our seniors on medicare, not to save medicare, but to start a whole new entitlement program for someone else. and one of the other gimmicks, one is called the class act. even the president's own debt commission has said we should eliminate, we should absolutely repeal this class act because it's a ponzi scheme, it's something bernie madoff would be proud of. it's the way that they collect money early but is going to go bankrupt and essentially bankrupt the country in the long term. so even the president's own debt commission says they ought to get rid of some of the components of this health care law. bill: we know it's an uphill climb in the senate. we'll see what happens. john barrasso, thank you for coming. >> thank you bill. martha: well, more on the brand new video of the blast at moscow's airport. now russia's president, blaming airport security for this incident. is that who needs to be blamed here? what could have stopped a homicide bomber from walking into a busy terminal and causing this kind of carnage and could it happen anywhere else? that's a big question this morning. we're going to take it on. bill: remember this moment last year? state of the union address, 2009. >> the reforms i'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegal. martha: we are just minutes away on capitol hill from new hearings on an old debate, the new head of the house foreign affairs committee, florida congresswoman alana roth lateman, leading gop efforts to slash funding for the united nations. senior correspondent eric shawn joins us live for more. >> reporter: now that republicans have charge of the house foreign affairs committee they are now again asking questions about the u.n., do we get our money's worth. united states pays the largest share of the u.n. budget. 22 percent, more than $6 billion a year for the whole system. the hearing this morning is expected to focus on u.n. reforms and the aftermath of the corruption scandals and the programs of a few years ago, critics saying the u.s. should stop funding some u.n. efforts such as the human rights council which is dominated by dictatorships and countries like cuba, libya and china and they say does not help american interests. committee chairman of florida has called the council a, quote, waste of taxpayer dollars, she says the u.n. has not undertaken the reforms that are needed to stop potential wrongdoing and fraud. there are numerous hearings and investigations of the united nations, and they promise to reform. the u.n. did take several measures to enact fiscal reforms. many of the issues of the years ago, critics say still remain. the 2005 hearing on u.n. reform, the then committee chairman, late congressman henry hyde, laid out the challenge. >> even the most steadfast of the u.n. supporters must concede that after more than half a century of operation, this many faceted, sprawling entity is very much in need of focused scrutiny and extensive reform. >> sunday support -- u.n. supporters will testify the u.n. has taken the steps to prevent fraud and wrongdoing, but it seems that many of the issues raised years ago about be -- will be echoed again this morning. martha: we'll see about that effort this time around. thank you very much. bill: unemployment, over 9 percent, housing market still shaky just about everywhere and this evening, the president lays out the state of the union. in a moment we'll lay out the state of the economy, with eric bolling on that. martha: and an honor killing right here in the united states. the latest in the case of a father accused of taking the life of his daughter for being too westernized. [ boy ] with box tops for education, you can make a big difference. did you know that by march 1st, more than $50 million can be earned by schools just like yours! buy participating products now, to earn your school's share of more than $50 million! martha: we're about to get two big economic numbers that will tell us the tale of the u.s. economy and those are about to come out, new numbers on consumer confidence, that is the -- just about to cross the wires, how consumers feel how things are going dylan and spending because of it and the december unemployment numbers around the country is the back drop for the state of our union. as we prepare for that tonight, brand new hour of "america's newsroom," glad to have you with us today, i'm martha maccallum. bill: bill hemmer. how are you. martha: hey, bill. how are you doing. bill: better than the car in brooklyn... national average for gas, $3.11 across the country and climbing and poll after poll showing the economy is first and foremost, on the minds of most americans. martha: where do these numbers actually put us? eric bolling, anchor of follow the money on fox business network, and good morning to you, as we wait for the numbers to come out, you know, the state of our union is so much about how the economy is doing. how are we doing. >> state of the union tonight and how have we done? listen, we'll hear mr. obama tell us about the recovery that is in progress, and we need to go over some of these numbers, though. a year ago, not two, but since the last state of the union address, national debt went from $12,700 million to $14 trillion in the year and this number of people unemployed has gone up and the rate went down from 9.7 to 9.3 and the number of people unemployed has gone up and home values plummeted and we have numbers this morning, 1.6% drop in the value, most recent reading in the value of homes was the biggest drop in the year, on the other side, prices have done nothing but gone up, bill mentioned, gallon of gas up 41 cents a gallon in the past year, and cost of food, skyrocketing and we have talked about that, a bunch of times and last, but not least, obamacare was supposed to help things out on the insurance side and the price of insurance up 13% the past year and whatever we were doing last year, from the last state of the union address to this year, didn't really work, he really needs to turn it around and one of the big things, extending the bush tax cuts going forward and should stay on that and that should be his theme through the whole 90 minutes, however long he ends up talking tonight. i would stay with that. martha: we have the consumer confidence numbers and want to throw this at you. 60.6 is the highest number we have seen in months. but, still, below what would be considered a healthy level. >> no doubt, 60.6, as it gets higher you want to see it 70 and 80, 85, and basically what you are hearing, from that number, is people are starting to feel better about things and are more, again, the u.s. economy, 70% based on consumer spending and you want to see the consumer more confident and the issues, what you need to see is unemployment numbers coming down, as unemployment numbers come down confidence numbers go up and they'll spend more and maybe make the big one, the home price we saw this morning, being so bad may turn the corner as well. again, a lot of this has to do with mr. obama signing the tax credits going forward, for another two years and that will turn confidence around, but, if not, if not slowly, maybe a little quicker than slowly and, hopefully quicker and hopefully he'll address it tonight. martha: before i let you go, the sentiment around the country, and we talked to economists is we are in recovery. lame as it may be in some ways, do you believe we are in the beginning stages of the recovery. >> absolutely. absolutely. we should be. martha, you have done this a long time, recessions last a year-and-a-half, sometimes two years and we are really going on a two, two-and-a-half years recession and i don't care what the stock market does and the minor 2.5% growth number that may show that takes us out of the technical definition of recession, but, 14.5 million people out of work and home prices falling, this is still a recession but that said things are getting better, no doubt, the tax cut extension will help things a lot. martha: that helped. all right, thank you very much. >> you are welcome. martha: catch him on follow the money, week nights on the fox business network. bill: and democrats accuse the republicans of talking big and failing to offer specifics about what they would cut. when it comes to spending, my next guest has ideas. ohio congressman jim jordan, with the caucus of house conservatives, welcome to "america's newsroom" here. you ran a piece in -- that just came out this week on the 20th of january where you said by the end of the decade, nine years, if we continue the way we are going, our national debt wion't be $14 trillion, it will be $26 trillion and if that this is case, greece will have a good laugh. >> you are exactly right. and eric gave you the numbers on the $14 trillion of national debt and when look at our debt-to-gdp ratios we are quickly resembling those countries we have read about the last year, greece, portugal, spain, ireland, having huge financial problems and this window of opportunity to fix the problem is closing rapidly and that is why we brought our spending reduction plan forward which over the ten-year time period will save $2.5 trillion, we think, it is a good first step and deals with discretionary spending but we have to look at everything across the table, across the board. bill: your district in ohio, you know how middle class america has been hit by this and you understand the angst and anxiety so many americans have about what is happening in washington. i want specifics and details. what would you cut? >> we have a list of 100 different things from cutting the federal travel budget this half, $7 billion, doing that to getting rid of amtrak subsidies and high speed rail and npr and go down the list and while those are relatively small, in the big picture, add them up over time you get significant savings and the biggest part of our savings is going to 2006 spending levels and holding that in the out years, where you really accrue savings and begin to turn the ship around, and put it on a sustainable fiscal path and that is the key because that will send a positive message to the markets and the one thing you have to have, to deal with the numbers we are talking about, you have to have economic growth. eric talked about this. you have to keep tax rates low and regulation that is reasonable, not excessive and get on the fiscal path, spending path that is sustainable. and you get economic growth and that can deal with the situation. bill: why do we go to 2006? what happened that year with washington spending people use as an example like yourself? >> well, that is when democrats took over and frankly we have seen this rapid increase in spending in 2008, 2008 and more in 2009 and 2010 with the obama administration and the democrat congress and we say a lot of families and small business owners had to go to previous years' spending levels and cut spending, why can't the federal government, the biggest spending entity in the world, can we reduce levels and go back and hold those and turn it in the right direction. bill: you know it will not get you -- the phrase you use, will not get you over the finish line. >> right. bill: but i guess, it is a start. if nothing else. >> a great first step. but we have to look at entitlements and paul ryan has a plan to save social security and medicare and costs going forward and we have to be willing, as conservatives we are willing to go here and we have to look at national defense and make sure the nation is secure and men and women in uniform have what they need but looking at inefficiencies at the pentagon and national defense budget and everything has to be on the table, the situation is that serious. bill: jim jordan, thanks for your time, republican out of ohio and here's john boehner, another republican out of ohio. house speaker. >>... i've experienced a well-versed in our budget problems, and someone i think can outline clearly to the american people that this amount of debt we're dealing with, not only will create big problems for our kids and grandkids, but is hurting job creation in america today. >> good morning. as the figure indicated we'll have on the floor today resolutions which deliver on our commitment that we are going to reduce spending levels for the remainder of the fiscal year. following up on that, i'm announcing today that the house will vote on the continuing resolution, the week of february 14th. i know it is a little bit out of the norm to announce this early, the scheduling of a vote. but, this is how serious we are, in delivering on our commitment to cut spending. the speaker has continued to say we're going to have an open process in the house and the house will work its will. our intention is to allow every member on both sides of the political aisle, to come forward and offer his or her prescriptions or how we cut spending and reduce the size of government. and, that will take place on the week of march 14th. i'm sorry, february 14th. that is, a couple weeks from now. the other thing of note around here is, this morning, we have seen many begin to attack somehow the republican plan for how we take the country forward, in particular, leader reid and senator schumer have been out hurling criticisms paul ryan and his being the individual giving the republican response tonight. just to put all of these attacks and criticisms into context, it was leader reid who appeared on one of the sunday shows a couple weeks ago, that said that there were no fiscal problems with social security. now, i think that that is obviously an irresponsible statement. clearly, that puts the leader reid on -- in opposition to statements made by the president, and members of his party, on this side of the capital, and, again, i think it also brings us to a point, we have got to, you know, stop the criticisms and accusations and act in a responsible way, to cut spending and to show the american people that we are going to take this country responsibly into the future but, first things first. we have got to cut spending because that has been shown to be the largest impediment in the way of job creators out there and we need to pull government back. >> in eastern washington and across the country, people are concerned that the american dream is slipping away for their children and grandchildren and, i share that concern. and tonight, as we listen to the state of the union, it is really an opportunity for the president and the congress to start anew, and work together on the challenges that are facing america and the best way that we can restore the american dream is to get our economic engine... martha: we have been listening to the leadership on the g.o.p. side, hammering home their message they want to get to the airwaves tonight, to cut spending and eric cantor, you have heard of all of the sitting-together stuff and he's invited nancy pelosi to sit next to him at the state of the union, the first time she's not up on the dais, behind the president, and so far we understand there is no response from her side, whether or not she'll sit with him but we'll see. bill: this is intriguing. we did a poll, and, you hear about this. martha: yes, i did. bill: whether or not, we asked americans whether it is a good idea and shows change or a silly idea. 56% say a good idea and shows real change. martha: i don't think it is a bad idea. let everybody sit together. bill: we'll see it tonight. martha: behave better and always, the question arises, this, will we see a moment, and bill mcgern says, we remember the audience, and joe wilson sparked a firestorm when he interrupted president obama's remarks on health care. remember this? >> president barack obama: the reforms i'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally... >> you lie! martha: their faces bolt around, to see where that was coming from and the "you lie" comments echoed for days after the speech and tonight, though, wilson is turning the other cheek and will join members of the lawmakers sitting on the aisle, bipartisanship will be shown all around that audience, tonight, he'll be sitting next to a democrat, following the tragedy in tucson, kind of what sparked the whole movement to have people sit together, congresswoman susan davis and congresswoman madeleine bordollo of guam will be his seat mates. bill: arm in arm they go. martha: people popping up next to each other and they'll come back to the popping up and down during the speech. we'll see. bill: the actor, the governor, pro wrestler and man of the people, jesse ventura has the resume and is using it to sue the feds. who got too touchy-feely with the body? what happened there. martha: and two more... an extremely violent time, in a number of the police departments around the country, two more police officers killed in the line of duty, a shocking total and shocking trend, next. bill: and he's accused of willing his daughter. by running her down weather a family car. prosecutors say it was the muslim honor killing because she had become too westernized. the accusation. and, today, the father says he is innocent. >> what could be more wrong, more dishonorable than a father ripping away the life from his own daughter, his own flesh and blood? martha: russia's president is blaming a security lapse after homicide bomber walked into the arrival terminal at moscow's busiest airport, happened during our show here yesterday on "america's newsroom" setting off an explosion that killed 35 people and injured 180 others. here on u.s. soil that attack is sparking a debate about airport security. can you check people beef they walk into the open public areas in our airports? which is the way this appears to have happened and neil livingston has written nine books on terrorism and served as an advisor to the pentagon and former secretary of state george shultz. he's the chairman and chief executive of executive action. neil, good to have you here this morning. thanks for coming in. >> thank you. martha: when you look at this, it starts -- makes you start to question all public open spaces, i mean, should we be checking people before you get even into the ticketing area or the pickup baggage area of airports? can we do that? >> the interesting thing about domodedovo and i have been in the airport a number of times, you actually did give your bag to them when you came in the front door before you got to the ticket counter and this checked you once and went through the ticket counter and went through security again and the vulnerability was down where the chauffeur's wait for people, when they come out of customs and immigration and they are all lined up with their signs and many of the casualties, as a matter of fact were chauffeur's waiting to pick up passengers. and we do that at a number of airports, la guardia, chauffeur's inside waiting for people as you come out through security and we'll have to look at the issue and see if it is a serious problem and maybe, make everyone who comes in, even to those areas, pass through a magnetometer or some type of security. martha: that makes it even more difficult, the way that you describe it. the airport has extra security in place, and we read yesterday they spent $20 million on security equipment here. but, maybe there is no way to make all of these places safe. you know, if they back you down to the area and this is what happened. >> again, i think domodedovo and i have not seen it without the construction scaffolding on the front of it and it is now complete and that is the irony, they just finished it and what you are degree, in the the areas where you can greet people and wait for them to pick them up and so on, may have to make the cab drivers and limo drivers go through security when they go into the areas. apparently this guy came through the door as though he were going to greet someone coming out om immigration and customs. martha: and unfortunately it seems people who want to commit these acts are learning they don't have to go on to the plane or get past security, they can wreak this havoc and destruction and death in that open area. neil livingston, thanks for being with us today. good to talk to you. bill: in a moment we'll talk to marc siegel about the alarming rise in heart disease, and what it costs america. this is stunning numbers. also, an incredible police chase. that ends in a very tough way. hey smart, you book your room yet? nope. see, hotels.com has over 20,000 last minute deals every 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dr. marc siegel part of the fox news medical a-team, how are you doing, marc, good morning to you? >> good, bill. bill: extraordinary number. what is going on here, do you think? >> we have 76 million baby boomers and they get heart disease more often and we have an obesity epidemic in the u.s., 1/3 to 2/3 of all americans are overweight and we are seeing more high blood pressure and that leads to heart disease and people are not exercising and they are eating wrong, all of this will be a huge problem going forward and is one of the reasons obamacare is a big problem. bill: why? >> it is based on intervention and taking care of people once they are ill and they talk prevention and the president talks prevention but nothing will really address the run away freight train here. bill: what he has talked about is a better diet. what his wife talked about is getting america to be healthier. which goes right to your issue of... >> right -- >> aging population. >> that is rhetoric. i don't believe that that will actually happen. we watch too much television and are sedentary and gaining too much weight, all the wrong foods are in our stores and we get heart disease and here's the good news, we have more and more interventional tools to treat the heart disease, and the reason it will cost almost a trillion dollars two decades from now is because we have the cardiac stents and bypass surgery but in canada, where they tried to cut costs, you are talking about a situation where it takes four times as long to get a cardiac stent and that will be what we end up with here, probably rationing unless we get to prevention we'll have to ration the service jo. bill: what makes sense the most is the figure about age, 76 million baby boomers. and is that now or 2030, when the extraordinary projection is out there for... >> 2030, by 2030, all of those baby boomers, over the next 15 years we add 5 million per year and 76 million more baby boomers and many will have heart disease. we know how to treat it. bill: what about the treatment an expense and how do you figure out a way to bring down the cost? >> well i said, what i did already. exercise and diet. but how about something like cholesterol drugs, statins, i consider those prevention, if you take a cholesterol-lowering drug an aspirin you can prevent yourself most likely from getting the heart disease and costing all of the medical expenses. we need more information about that kind of prevention. that is still prevention and we say, run on a treadmill and taking lipitor is prevention. bill: this is a great reminder and frankly can't hear it enough. >> very expensive, bill. bill: dr. siegel, thanks for coming in. indeed, a lot of dollars. martha, what is coming up. martha: speaking of that, i have one now, turning a box of cereal, apparently, around to see the back of it, is such a challenge apparently, that now they have made new labels and these labels will go on the front of some packaged goods, and list calories and fat and sugar and the doctor will want us to check that out and vitamins and nutrients and they are called nutrition keys, okay? and some companies are voluntarily putting them on the fronts of the package, ahead of new labelling rules that are apparently going to come down from the food and drug administration. that says, gee we need to put the label on the fronts, too tough to turn it around, bill. challenging. bill: i hear ya. later tonight, the big issue on capitol hill, spending. we spoke with a republican lawmaker. who said he can cut trillions of dollars, $2.5 trillion. will democrats go for it? debbie wasserman shuts -- debbie wasserman schultz, live on the hill, three minutes away. stand by. are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement or annuity over 10 or even 20 years? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today. bill: 10:30, developing now in "america's newsroom," watch the dow, will we reach 12,000, last time we were there, june of 2008, a lot of earnings coming up, and we'll see what it does for america's profit line and, due in court for sentencing today, 36-year-old ahmed ghailani was convicted of taking part in the bombings of two u.s. embassies, eastern africa, back in august of 1998. prosecutors looking for a life sentence for him. 31 past the hour, martha? martha: all right, well earlier today we spoke with republican congress management jim jordan of ohio, from the republican study committee an detailed a plan they've come up with that would cut $2.5 trillion from the budget over the next decade and, now let's hear from the other side of the aisle, democratic florida congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz, how chief deputy whip and we welcome her here, good morning, good to have you here. welcome to "america's newsroom." what do you think of his idea. the republican study committee, scott garrett and a bunch of others have come together and they say they've outlined $2.5 trillion in cuts. do you like the plan? >> no. martha: no? why? >> that is a shock, martha... martha: let me know why. >> essentially, that plan is like waving the white flag right from the get-go in our competition as a global competitor. i mean, especially in light of the visit from president hu this week, who clearly laid out just how competitive they have been and intend to continue to be on the global stage. we are going to get our butts handed to us, if we don't make sure we are continuing to make the investments we need to be making in innovation and technology, and in energy and... martha: let me ask you -- >> $2.5 trillion. go ahead. they have actually only proposed $330 billion. in cuts. saying they want to have -- go back to 2006 spending levels, and not naming how they'll do that is like me saying i want to add a third story on my house and have 10,000 today's do it, but, he had a point when he said this. he said, look, all kinds of organization around the country, when they hit tough times they say, we are going to have to cut back and cut back to the spending levels we were at in '08, '06 and you can chuckle about it but i think folks out there really do want to hear some -- i feel like every time somebody throws an idea out there, people say, well that is a drop in the bucket and drop in the bucket, perhaps, is where you need to start. let me ask you one question. he said, you know, why can't we go back to the... as an organization, go back to the levels we used to be at and is talking about cutting fat, federal travel budgets for example, and, amtrak subsidies for example. >> that is -- he's not talk -- going back to 2006 spending levels is a 42% cut. he's talking about cutting deep into the bone of k-12 education. and deep into the bone of cancer research. of health care for veterans and let's talk about what the reality of a 42% cut would be, and, they are also proposing to leave out the defense and homeland security, and... martha: no, he said, as conservatives we need to address the department of defense, though we wanted to -- >> they haven't proposed any cuts there. martha: fighting men and women have what they need, there are in i efficiencies in that system as well and he said on our air he wants to look at in the draft. >> they haven't proposed any and the other pretty big concern here is eric cantor the majority leader specifically said he'll bring the republican study committee's proposal to cut back to 2006 levels, if he can get 218 votes and they have 247 republicans and if they don't have 218 out of 247 that proposal doesn't even hold water in air caucus. never mind the congress. martha: i hear what you are saying and i know this is not how you want to go about things. what... where do we start here? it feels like the american public gets it, and people are on board and, the spending is out of control and deficit is out of control and, instead of hearing about more spending it feels like they want to hear -- where would you start with cuts, debbie wasserman schultz? >> we need to start with smart cuts, we need to make sure we are focused -- examine programs through hearings that aren't working, that aren't living up to expectations. martha: like what, for example, give me an example, something you would like to see go. >> well, because i haven't spent some time really going through it, and hearing feedback on the -- i'm not going to give you a knee-jerk reaction and be irresponsible, we're going to slash and burn. we need to review those programs carefully and then, cut the ones that are not working and that is what president obama will talk about tonight, we need to be sure we're promoting innovation and competition and making smart cuts, not repealing health care reform which adds $230 billion to the deficit, and let's sit down together in a bipartisan way. i agree we need cuts and let's do it in a careful and smart way and not pick' number, slash and burn... martha: people heard of going line by line with a scalpel through the programs and they feel like nobody is actually doing it, you know? that is the problem. >> i agree. is certainly isn't taking a scalpel, it is take machete and we have to be sure we're being smart about the budget cuts and smart about deficit reduction and not slashing and burning... martha: yeah, all right. i wonder when we'll see it. we have little patience for more hearings an discussion and people say, look, what do we need to do, get it out and cross off the travel badgudget... >> let's not review whether we are reviewing smart they, cut for the sake of cutting. martha: that is not what i'm saying. >> that will hurt people who have cancer and kids who are trying to get pel grants to go to college. we really have to remember, we're not just spending on, you know, big government bloated programs, the spending we appropriate helps real people, make sure they can get jobs. helps the small business administration, make sure they can grow small businesses. slash and burn, we are going to be irresponsible and make our economy worse. martha: i hear what you are saying and everybody's feet will be held to the fire on this. >> i'm ready for my feet to be held to the fire. martha: congresswoman, we appreciate you coming on, thank you very much. >> thanks, martha. martha: see you soon. bill: and... defending the country and now some of our wounded troops say have been treated unfairly because of their injuries in war, we have their story and prosecutors say the man committed an honor killing here in the u.s., taking his own daughter's life because, they say, she became too westernized. now the defense gets its turn. >> he panicked. he pulled out of there, goes around the corner, and calls his family. i hit noor! i hit noor! what did i do? 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and to make it plausible you need an expert to take the stand and say, hey, this is what happened, the tire marks are here, and, the way he turned and it could have been an accident and i don't see them listing an expert and that doesn't mean they don't have one but it is a hard sell to a jury, and especially with the background information, that he harassed or wanted her dead, and there's all these little facts that add up to that... that will be a difficult sell. martha: there was a lot going on in this house, as she had been coming and going, moving in to the house and moving out of the house and living with her boyfriend and her boyfriend's mother at this time, she was with the mother and randy, let's look at the text messages. she was sending a half-hour before this happened, she said, dude, so scary, i'm going to skip over the expletives, which are throughout this, i'm with my aunt at the welfare place and guess who walks in, my dad, i'm shaky. did he see you, says the friend? i don't think so. he's fat... by the door, i can't leave, laughing like a crazy person, i hate when it happens to me, and goes on and my dad is a man manipulative -- and never have met anyone with so much evil and we'll have to talk about it when we get together and what do you make of the attempt by the defense and is it right for the prosecution to call it an honor killing. >> it is an interesting analysis an brad raises two points, first from a defense standpoint you probably want to raise a weird justification defense, because in iraq, in the middle east, an honor killing is justified and under arizona law justification can explain for example something that you do or ignorance of the law but having said that it is keep it simple and it is real simple and the man's conduct before, the man's conduct afterwards, explains motive and the prosecutor, i don't have to explain motive but if i have it i'm done, i'm getting my quigetting my convic and clearly the man couldn't deal with his daughter wanting to be westernized and the only way to deal with it was to kill her and they will not be able to establish it is an accident, he's as dead as she is. martha: and the boyfriend's mother survived and she's a witness to what happened here. >> that will be -- yes. their big problem, is that she's going to take the stand, and they are going to bring out from her, hey, listen i looked right at the guy and he look at me and sped up or increased his speed, and that will be their big, big hurdle to overcome and say this was an accident. i like the temporary insanity defense a lot better. by saying, hey, listen, where i'm from, this is something that is not acceptable and my state of mind doesn't know the difference between right and wrong. when i was taught this -- since i was a kid. that may be a better defense, than saying this is an accident and i don't think anyone will buy. but i'm sure the offer before trial was probably life anyways, so they are taking a shot and bite at the apple. martha: hard to wrap your head around. what could have possibly have been going on with the father. in either one of these situations, when you look at how it played out. we'll keep an eye on it, randy, thank you very much and, good to have you weigh in on this. bill: what a story, about a year ago, we did the entire piece about an honor killing in texas. martha: two girls in the back of the taxi cab. bill: beautiful young women, too. martha: shot by their father. bill: they paid a heavy price for our country and are some wounded american heros unfairly treated because of their war injuries? 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