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hello. >> gregg: i'm gregg jarrett. welcome to the news headquarters. topping the news, a brazen murder at a restaurant in los angeles leaving four people dead. a gunman still on the loose in what police are calling an intentional act. >> homicide bombers detonate a series of bombs near four embassies on sunday killing dozens of wounding nearly 200. >> and catholics around the globe are using easter to address, apologize and acknowledge the damage caused by a sex abuse scandal leading cardinal making unscripted comments about pope benedict. we'll go live to the vatican for the latest. >> turning first to the economy. unemployment still holding at 9.7%, translating to 50 and they are saying we have long way to go before unemployment numbers are back down. and white house says there is crucial issues with currency practices with. >> what are the key economic advisors saying about getting back to work? >> the top economic advisor says it's the presidents preoccupation to put people back to work. 152,000 new jobs were created in march, best numbers in three years but the unemployment rate remains at 9.7%. he says we have a long way before the number drops to under 5%. here is what he had to say. >> as conditions get better, more people decide to look for work and are counted in the labor force but sometimes it's frustrating and it doesn't show up immediately in the unemployment rate but it's progress nonetheless. >> the number two republican senator jon kyl suggested that freezing all tax rates would immediately result in a skyrocketing stock market. >> what about the controversy over the chinese currency and how it's going to affect our own economy and critics saying about it? >> the critics say that china holds down the currency hurting our exports and affecting our unemployment. yesterday the treasury-secretary said he would delay a currency report until after china's president visits here later this month. here is arlen specter on fox news sunday. >> we have a real problem with the chinese. they are very shrewd and customarily they outmaneuver us. they take our jobs and take our money and then they lend us back to us and own a big part of america. let's watch exactly what is happening. if we get something concrete, a delay might be okay. >> they say the administration is delaying that currency report because they want chinese cooperation for new sanctions on iran. larry summers says that is not true but nobody can be satisfied where we are with exports to china right now. >> all right. thank you. >> gregg: there is a manhunt right now for a gunman in los angeles. a suspect in his 30s opened fire inside a crowded restaurant. here is a picture of the three men pronounced dead on the scene and fourth died on the way to the hospital. police suspect that warring gangs are behind it all. casey siegle is live, do they know a motive here? >> police are being very tight-lipped about this whole investigation as we're still in the early stages here. they have come out and said they do not believe that members of the general public are in danger here. they believe that the victims were specifically targeted. why they were targeted, that remains unclear although police came out said that armenia gang rifle ri may be to blame. what information they have that supports that, they are not saying. the hot spot cafe, a mediterranean restaurant right here in a very busy part of town. it was just about 4:30 yesterday afternoon when the restaurant was busy with starting dinner. a gunman opened fire in there, a gunman said to be in his 30s, opened fire about 4:30. three people died at the scene, one person died on the way to the hospital and another is in critical condition at this hour. all of the victims said to be men in their early 20s. you can see the bullet holes on the side of this restaurant here as police are trying to get this all ironed out. >> gregg: the los angeles has been plagued for many years by gang warfare, but armenia gangs? how prevalent are they? >> pretty unusual. we haven't heard much about that kind of activity. you think of south central l.a. primarily hispanic gangs, growing in popularity here. when we started to do digging and do research of this. there have been tensions between armenian gang members and mexican. a high profile member was dead in a hollywood restaurant ten years ago back in 2000. there appear growing tensions. lead investigative agency on this but they are calling in the glendale police department for assistance on this. >> gregg: all right. casey, thank you. americans caught in harm's way as human smuggling and murder along the border spark a debate. two groups of immigrants were spotted in a truck outside phoenix. they rounded up 30 people, among them a pregnant woman who had not had water or food in four days. and a rancher gunned down on his own property. they suspect mexican traffickers comes in the middle of a gop primary in arizona to challenge former congressman, accusing john mccain of inaction on the border security issue. on a campaign stop the senator blaming the federal government. >> the federal government's responsibility is the border, its federal responsibility, not a state responsibility. so the federal government should be the ones to pick up the tab for sending the guards to the border. >> a democratic strategist and brad is former deputy assistant to george w. bush. thanks for being here. let's start with you, is the senator correct to blame the federal government for not better protecting the border? >> i think senator mccain is not blaming the government, it is the federal government's primary responsibility to be the first ones at the border. it's our country we are talking about, not just the state of arizona. there is california, texas, new mexico and others that have an important responsibility looking to the federal government along with the state and local authorities to coordinate great border security. what we should should do is putting troops there as senator mccain said. use our national guard troops as one of the primary defenders along with the border patrol. >> let's settle on that subject. it's the fed's responsibility for just a second. what about heeding the call and putting thousands of troops on the border after the recent rash of violence. why not just do it? >> i think its situation, president and secretary and napolitano are monitoring to make that determination. it's important i think to remember what exactly they have done since they took office. since they have been in office have doubled the amount of border patrol from 10,000 to 20,000 and we've seen a reduction of 22% of immigrants coming across the border. they are putting together a tough but strong and smart strategy. they are making the determination and if warranted they will put the national guard there on the border. part of the reason we've seen a slightly lower degree of people crossing the border is because of the economy here. that has been part of the reason, but what about the feds? i know i've read that all the work is done and we're completely finished with that issue, but a lot of people say not? >> there was 352 miles that needed to be completed and there is 363, so it's almost there, there are nine miles to be completed. they are working on it and it will be completed. it's important to remember exactly what they have done. they are stopping the northern flow of immigration, drugs and weapons but also for the very first time, this administration has put an emphasis on the southern part, which is to stop the guns and cash. 100 am of freight rail is being checked for the first time ever. so they are trying to make america secure and better. >> even though i've read about thousand illegals come across the borders every day. mr. blakeman, conservative opponents, j.d. heyworth and he says that there has been 28 years of inaction and is this going to divide your party at all because it's tied to immigration law? >> it should not divide the party. it should unite the party because it's an all out effort to secure our borders. president obama could attack immigration first and foremost for border security. john mccain has been a champion for national security and military preparedness. we need to use that on our borders. mccain is right. and for the government not to pick up on the fact, not only using the military but using f.b.i. and homeland security and other support agencies who can effectively protect us and do us harm. >> and the family of that rancher who was killed issuing a statement today pleading for the u.s. government to immediately order deployment of the tiv u.s. military to the border. a lot of pressure on those politicians in arizona. again, john mccain asking the federal government to step in. last word from either of you? >> i think the 20,000 that we've had the increase, they are putting a surge together. they are offering a $25,000 reward and they are doing what is necessary to bring this man to justice. >> i think what we need, just a closing thought, let's have a real bipartisan effort to secure our borders. we can come to an agreement before the fall elections. >> we'll have to see again, thousand people coming across that border a day. thank you penny and brad for joining us today. >> gregg: terror strike inning heart of iraq. a series of three bomb blasts rocking baghdad, killing at least 42 people, wounding more than 200. back-to-back explosions targeting a district with many foreign embassies including those of iran and egypt. they say the coordinated of the bombings bear the market of al-qaeda. today's blasts just the latest in wave of attacks to seeking to destabilize the countries. dominic joins us on the telephone from baghdad. >> you are absolutely right. most interesting the iranian embassy stretching across parts of the economic landscape here, they will be appealing pressure on finding those responsible. [ siren ] body parts of the dead were scattered across the scene as we arrived. ten people were killed here and car exploded at the embassy compound. vehicles and occupants were incinerated in the blast. it took much of the damage in the car bomb. here you can see the crater right behind me, but that wasn't the target. over here was the real target. it's the iranian embassy and first time there has been a car bomb attack on this particular site. in fact, 2003, no car bomb has gotten past the barricades so determined was the suicide bomber in his mission. >> it was surprising how quick the cleanup begin. they didn't see to use forensic skills to show clues who were the perpetrators. a weekend which witnessed an attack on sunni muslims near the capital. al-qaeda is a key suspect on the strike on the foreign targets. >> they knew hot culprits are. but iraq is at a point and following the elections, many militant groups are taking advantage of that and gregg, back to you. >> gregg:, thanks. >> easter sunday, it is the holiest day for christians around the world a time for renewal and hope for millions of the faithful. one church has become part of the easter message, to be reborn in another 900 miles away. great story. lauren green is live with us with more. >> it's the first time of a church of this size has been within the united states and the architectural embodiment of the easter message, what was once dead is now made alive. ♪ ♪ >> $15 million project brings new meaning to the easter marriage at the church near atlanta, but before this new life came death. dorothy laments the closing of this once thriving catholic church in buffalo no, dwindling attendance forced them to shut down. >> people had a sense of a quietness, a sense of awe when they enter. they knew they were coming on to holy ground. >> plans are underway to resurrect 900 miles south where the fast expanding parish needs a new building. they are resurrecting an old one. >> we thought about using pieces of church and then when we saw it was so close to what he designed to us, same square footage. why don't we just build the whole building. >> they found it to be dismantled and assembled on a new foundation. the transport of the candle stand but when it came to getting st. jirard out of the crate, there was plans of his own. it became an easter marriage. >> it's about that is broken can be restored. there is no such thing as a worthless human being or worth less situation. no such thing that can't be restored. god restores everything in his own time and makes everything knew. that is the message of he is terrify. >> it's the first for a church of this size and magnitude to be moved within the united states. a feat of faith. >> when it's complete, it will take six months and then year and a half for it to be re-assembled. they predict with the new walls, it will last another two zblwlgs how about that. thank you so much. >> gregg: battle over health care may be over for washington lawmakers but the war is far from over. new battleground at the state level and the courts in particular. we're going talk with a couple of state attorney generals, one in favor, one against to get their opinions coming up. time now for a look at today's head lies. f.b.i. saying members of christian militia accused of plotting to kill police officers saying, the members refused to assist the members. they helped authorities track him down. >> they are expecting the main river that caused all that flooding to fall below flood stage around convict p.m. tonight. that is earlier than previously thought. pope benedict wrapping up the holy week with an easter mass in st. peter's square saying easter brings a message. he did not mention the sex abuse cover-up plaguing the church right now. >> gregg: courtroom seems to be new battleground for the health care debate. on the front lines is oregon's attorney general john kroger vowing to defend the new health care law. joining us is john kroger, thank you for being with us today. the federal government have the resources to do so to defend it, why as you as a state attorney general announced your intention to defend it? >> as you know, a number of states have decided to challenge the new health care bill in court. throughout my career as a united states marine, as a federal prosecutor and attorney general i have sworn to defend the constitution of the united states. i thought it was very important, that the courts here but attorney generals like myself who believe it's constitutional. >> let's talk about the constitutional issues and the mandate that all people buy a product is not tied to any activity. instead it's imposed on people merely because they exist. doesn't that exceed the reach of the commerce clause in the constitution? >> well, as you know, the supreme court has given a broad interpretation to the commerce clause. reviewing that prior case law, i think it's very clear this activity will fall within the range of constitutionality. >> gregg: did you read u.s. v. morrison and lopez. in both. supreme court specifically rejected the idea that the commerce clause permits congress to regulate non-economic activity. isn't that precisely what congress did in this health care law? >> not at all. right now we have over 30 million americans who go to emergency rooms without health insurance all the time. that has an enormous impact on the american economy. as you know, cars coming out of detroit carry a giant surcharge because are failure to control health care costs. so the lack of it has an enormous impact on the economy and throughout the country. so the court will undoubtly decided this is constitutional. >> but in the those cases, congress cannot regulate non-economic activity merely, quote, because through a change of cause or effects might have an economic impact. isn't that contrary to the statement that you just made? >> not at all. we have people going to emergency rooms without insurance all the time. of course, when they show up at an emergency room and need care, hospital is not legally allowed to turn them away. at that point it's too late to sign them up for health insurance. >> gregg: but what about all the people who don't have insurance and don't go to knows hospitals? >> well, you know, the problem is that all americans are seeking care from health care providers. >> gregg: some people pay for it out of pocket sn. they choose to do that instead of buying expensive insurance, now you are going to make them buy it? >> they have the opportunity to pay a fine. i'm sure if they think it's economic for them to do, they will continue to do that. >> gregg: here is my point, it's one point for congress to regulate congress, but it's another entirely to force people to engage in that activity and isn't that a line that congress has never before crossed in 200 years? >> no. in fact if you look at the supreme court law, they have regulated. for instance, a farmer declining to buy wheat in the national markets. the expanse and character of the commerce clause is very clear. what this case would require if the court was going to declare that is unconstitutional is throwing about 90 years of case law from the supreme court. >> gregg: i read the reed case and that is an economic activity it was a man who was not buying and selling wheat in the marketplace, but rather for his own use. that is an activity. this is people are being forced to buy something because they breathe air. isn't there a difference? >> the fact of the matter is, right now, for instance, parents taking kids to emergency rooms without health care coverage, all of us pay for that. so this is clearly economic activity. >> gregg: all right. john kroger, the oregon attorney general. thank you very much. fox news is fair and balanced. in the next hour we'll talk to a republican attorney general who is suing the federal government to stop the health care bill taking effect in his state. ly pose the very points to him that oregon's attorney john kroger just pointed out to us. the pope holding easter service. what he said is making headlines as what he did not say. live report from rome next. stay with us. if you're taking 8 extra-strength tylenol... a day on the days that you have arthritis pain, you could end up taking 4 times the number... of pills compared to aleve. choose aleve and you could start taking fewer pills. just 2 aleve have the strength... to relieve arthritis pain all day. welcome back. it's the bottom of the hour, time for the top of the news. police are saying four men gunned down in a north hollywood restaurant yesterday were targeted. law enforcement sources have said the shooting may have been gang-related. the gunman still on the loose. >> gregg: colorado police looking for a missing person, focusing on five places near her home including a lake. she disappeared one week today as she walked to a birthday party at a friend's house about a mile away. >> more than 40 people killed in three coordinated homicide bombings. the explosions happened minutes apart. authorities are saying they were able to stop two other attacks aimed at diplomatic targets. >> christians celebrating one of holiest days in the year. pope benedict xvi led tens of thousands of faithful in easter mass. holy father focusing on faith and forgiveness and calling easter a time for pardon, goodness and truth. greg burke is life. any mention of the sex abuse scandal? >> well, gregg, not from the pope which i don't think was the big surprise, but there was a mention from a top cardinal, sardano thanking the pope for his leadership, what he called. then saying christians will not be intimidated by what he called petty gossip. a reaction to what happened, trying to link pope benedict to the sex abuse. it did not come from herself but a top cardinal. >> gregg: we'll probably cut this short. there is a loud buzz in your audio. what was the pope's message for easter? all right. we have entirely lost the connection from vatican city. we apologize for that. we do have an advantage because if you want to know what the vatican is saying, father jonathan morris has lived for some part of his life. first of all, we want to welcome you. >> thank you very much. happy easter to you. >> you and i were writing notes back and forth. what i love we get premer of why we say happy easter? >> certainly easter is about historical fact that a man named jesus of nazareth was on the earth, suffered, crucified and then buried the according to christian beliefs, this is where we go from historical facts, scientific to beliefs, that he rose from the dead. certainly there is a lot of evidence in terms of people they say they saw and passing it on and centuries of belief that he came, he died and he rose aagain. it's about redemption and forgiveness. >> people talk about the holiest time of the year. christmas and easter, what is it for christians. we say this is it. why does it matter so much? >> a great question. there have been lots of plof et cetera, lots of guys with a message, but if jesus died and did not rise again, he was a fraud. to called himself the son of god. he said i am the son of god. the average guys don't say that. people have believed for 2,000 years that that is who he is. >> unfortunately we lost or correspondent the connection, the satellite connection, but you, yourself might be able to tell us about that and that is your challenge for americans at this point in our history? >> these are troubling times. without a doubt, troubling times. i was on the subway coming here, two people next to me, a major fight. its beautiful day. i couldn't care less. quite honestly, troubling times for us. troubling times for families. without a doubt. good news about easter, there is a second chance for all of us, that god came, god became man. according to christian beliefs and has given another chance to say i'm sorry, i need help. that is a beautiful message. >> amen. that's is what i have to say. happy easter. >> gregg: thousands of protestors in thailand defying orders to leave bangkok. demonstrators shouting in the business district. this is the fourth week of protests and leaders say they will continue until they hold new elections. farmers traveling to support the country's former prime minister who was ousted in a coup in 2006. >> lining up to visit the world's tallest building. observation deck, reopening today after two months. tower closed down in february after an elevator packed with visitors got stuck between floors. the incident was a major embarrassment for the dubai government hoping to revive its image. >> gregg: dr. lawrence summers working the talk show circuits, weighing on last week's positive job report but with the unemployment rate holding firm at 97.7, larry summers citizen much more needs to be done. >> we've got a long way to go. we've inherited a terrible situation, most pressing problem since the great depression in our country. it is the president's preoccupation to put people back to work. >> he was confident about passage of the financial overhaul regulatory system. >> i expect that reform is going to pass. it's not easy. you've got a million dollars being spent per congressman in lobbying on this issue, industry has four lobbyists per member of the house and the senate is working on in. >> gregg: joining us for reaction, is chairman and ceo of jerry linden and global chief investment officer for morgan stanley investment management. great to see you. 162,000 jobs added sounds like a lot. let's put it in perspective, you and me, 51 consecutive months of growth to make up for the lost jobs since the recession begin. is it a bit premature for larry summers to say the jobless trend has turned? >> most economists you need between 125,000 new jobs created per month to hold the unemployment rate from going higher because of new people entering the work force at any point in time. so it is an interesting number that has come back off where the high was at 10 on the unemployment rate. we're starting to see some job growth, but in is going to be a very locks process. >> gregg: stock market is interesting. what does it tell you? >> what the market is telling me what is working is the monetary stimulus that has been provided by the federal reserve over the past year and a half. that market is up 75% from the low a year ago in march. that is typically a harbinger of stronger economic activity. the stock market is like a barometer like with the weather moving ahead of economic events. you are beginning to see the economy perk up and gdp growth will be strong but there are a number of reasons why the administration, there is going to be very challenged with the unemployment rate. >> gregg: most of the jobs created as we sift through the data are government jobs that were added and many of them are temporary. so in order to create long term, sustained growth, driven by the private sector, would tax relief especially for businesses be in in order? >> i think that tax relief would help as would actually less regulation in some areas, not more. i think really what is important right now to get confidence back for the entrepreneur who is going to start a new business that is going to hire 20 or 30 people. it requires access to capital which the stock market is helping with. banks need to start lending to smaller companies. one thing that is important is the tone that comes out of washington. if the tone is kind of anti-profit motive, vilifying business people every other day, it's going to be a discouragement to people. >> gregg: that tone would be refreshing. quick question -- the economy is performing anywhere near where president obama promised if congress passed the $787 billion stimulus which it did. does that suggest to you that the president either misunderstood the gravity of the situation or his stimulus plan did not work as advertised? >> i think when you say the president, his economic advisors i think he may have gotten some bad forecasts on this issue. the stimulus itself, many economists don't think it had very much impact at all but rather it was the federal reserve moving short term interest rates down to zero and flooding the system with liquidity and therefore with a lag of several quarters is now turning the domestic economy. >> gregg: wouldn't it be ironic, and history will right this out, that alan greenspan and the fed created the bubble that burst. thanks for being with us. a massachusetts teenager takes her own life, now nine classmates are charged with criminal bullying. when does the school room become a crime scene. join us next, is a psychiatrist on the real harm of bullying and how to protect your kids. 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are there kids that are going to naturally going to be picked on? >> she was a pretty girl that was transplanted from another country. i don't think that is enough to be a victim of bullies. i think they may tend to be more introspect active and they may be a little unsure of themselves and therefore not so quick to defend this means in the face of bullies. it's complex but those that are bullied are targeted specifically as many people are for harassment by any group. >> you painted a pretty good picture, her parents relocated from ireland to give her a taste of the american life. she had a popular boyfriend for a short period of time on the football team. it didn't so bad the but then you take consideration we were all bullied at some point in our lives. is it kids' fault they took her life, that will be the big question in court? >> it's really the intensity and duration of the bullying. the stalking or harassment because we don't hav to call it anything but it is. we call it bullying in school. it's really stalking or harassment. those are some of the charges against these people. the bottom line, this is a formula for disaster because even in animal models, things that animals when they are shocked repeatedly and randomly and they don't know when it's going to end or when they are going to get relief. that is what happens to kids in school when they are bullied. they don't know when the next name or when they'll be hit. it's frely did he say pairing. it really instills a sense of hopelessness and it can lead to suicide. >> reports that officials knew about this, we'll have to wait for that to be confirmed as we move into a court case. if they did, what could they have done? you hear people say, you should ignore it but you say no, you should not ignore it? >> here is what you do. you see this as a serious behavior as it is and you say to the parents of the bullies, we're going to consider the bullying bullies to be disorder had young people. you take them home and you let us know when a psychiatrist says to us, i rubber-stamp this person not to hurt anybody. until then you keep them in home school. that is the correct way for the school administration to proceed that is one way they can say to the parents, hey, guess what, take them, bring them to the health care system and them we'll take them back. >> a patholgizer, wow. thank you for your perspective on this, thank you very much. >> we have brand-new poll numbers from rasmussen's reports. president obama approval rating may not be what they hoped for. scott rasmussen will be here to break it all down. brand-new poll numbers taking the pulse of america. daily presidential tracking poll showing 32% of folks strongly approve of the job that president obama is doing but 42% strongly disapprove. the president is traveling to maine to sell health care reform. joining us is scott rasmussen. is this a trend and if so, what direction is it moving for the president. how unusual are the numbers this early in a presidency? >> the numbers are actually a little better for president obama than they were a couple weeks ago. the number strongly disapprove has been holding steady, but the number who strongly approve has increased. it comes entirely from democrats they are feeling much better that health care reform has passed. we see it in the numbers of democrats who say the country is now heading in the right direction. it's a tough time for president obama partly because of the economy and partly because the health care bill is still unpopular. >> gregg: you measure the trust that americans have who is leading health care reform. >> we asked people if they trust republicans or democrats more on the issue of health care reform, 53% republicans, 37% say democrats. this is a huge swing in the republican direction since the passage of health care reform. not really a surprise. most americans oppose this had bill for months and 54% say it should be repealed. >> americans have suffered tremendously over the course of this recession. you took a measure of consumer confidence among investors, what did you find? >> confidence among investors and consumers is moving upwards a little bit after the jobs report came out on friday. not a big surprise. jobs have been the big concern. where we are today is confidence is back finally to where it was when lehman brothers collapsed in the fall of 2008, but a long way to go. two out of three believe we're in a recession. nearly half believe that the economy is still getting worse. >> gregg: when you have 15 million unemployed, it's hard to put a smiley face. let's talk about offshore drilling. for years candidate obama was against offshore drilling. i remember the moment august of 2008 polling data suggested that he was losing a huge numbers to the drill mantra of john mccain. and he flipped. this week he came out with an offshore drilling plan? >> 72% say we should be allowing offshore drilling but 59% think it should be allowed off the coast of california and new england. public is evenly divide order whether states should have the right to put in offshore drilling on their coastline. when you mention the flip from the campaign season, when john mccain, first poll in florida even people in florida liked the idea because they wanted to do something to get the price of gasoline down. it has been a big issue ever since because the american people are looking for ways to generate new sources of energy. >> gregg: the price of oil and gasoline at the time he flipped was incredibly high. there was hyper concern among americans about it, and thus, the flip perhaps. good to see you. >> gregg doesn't have to worry about this. he has a wonderful figure. what if you could eat all the fatty foods you wanted and not worry about gaining weight. developing diabetes or heart disease and you get to drink a ton of red wine? 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amazing story of survival out of china. nine miners pulled out alive today after spending more than a week in a flooded coal mine and dozens of their coworkers still unaccounted for. >> julie: and millions of the faithful around the world observed the holiest day of the year for christians. easter sunday, and we'll be getting reports from the vatican, and, jerusalem and the u.s. >> we begin with a deadly dane baghdad, and a series of coordinated attacks killing at least 42 people, and wounding more than 200. the iraqi capital rocked by three homicide bombs and targeting embassies and according to security officials the attacks bear the hallmark of al qaeda and the bloodshed, threatens to destabilize iraq along sectarian lines, as the country is struggling to form a coalition government, following last month's election and dominic denatali is streaming live from baghdad. >> reporter: indeed it was a strike to the heart of the diplomatic core, although, it was mostly iraqis whose lives were claimed and the embassies of germany and egypt an iran were struck, the iranian embassy, a curious target, considering how influential politically and economically iran is here in iraq and the iranian government ill applying pressure to government to find whout the perpetrators were and the fox news bureau reis a few hundred yards fro want embassy and we were this soon after the -- from the embassy and we were there soon after the attacks, body parts were scattered across the scene and ten people were killed at the -- as the bomb exploded at the checkpoint to the embassy compound and vehicles and occupants incinerated in the blast. a real estate bank took much of the damage and the crater is right behind me. but, that was not the target. over here, was the real target. the iranian embassy and this first time it has been a car bomb attack on this particular site. in fact, since 2003, no car bomb has gotten past the barricade, so determined were the -- was the suicide bomber and his mission. it was surprising how quick the cleanup began and the iraqi authorities didn't seem that motivated, to use the forensic skills, passed on by american forces, that could have revealed clues about the interpreter operators. today, the attacks followed mortar fired into the grown zone and a weekend which witnessed the execution-style attack on sunni muslims near the capital and al qaeda is believed to be behind it and is a key suspect in today's strike. and harris, if it is al qaeda this is a terrorist attack, not sectarian violence. but, there are many militant groups in iraq who are seeking to destabilize the government, any way they possibly can, and, until the new government is form, there is doubt about how much security there is, for every day iraqi. and, until we actually see, new and strong leadership in the new iraq and democratic iraq, harris, back to you. >> dominic, getting those pictures right after it happened, great reporting, dominic. take care. >> julie: afghan president karzai rallying support for an upcoming u.s. nato offensive in kandahar today, the president telling community leaders they will be consulted before coalition troops move into their villages and the appeal reflects u.s. nato strategy to win over the half million people living in that region and the campaign on the taliban strong hold will kick off in june and they hope to complete the entire operation by early august. >> senator joe leieberman sounding the alarm on domestic terrorism, suspects plotting to wage war on the u.s. and the senator warns on nbc's "meet the press" today, political rhetoric may drive extremist groups farther. >> the level of discourse, about our politics and about our country are so extreme and incendiary, if you are dealing with people who may not be clicking on all cylinders, and may have vulnerabilities, personally, is a danger, that they will do what this group of militia plan to do this week. i would not overstate this threat. it is not as significant as the global threat, of islamist extremism but it is real. >> and the senator also said, more needs to be done, to protect trains and buses from attacks. >> julie: the obama administration hitting the sunday show circuit today making their case for the latest jobs report and christina romer says it may be sometime before american workers see a decline in unemployment, malini wilkes is live with more. >> reporter: this morning key members of the president's economic team noted strong numbers on job creation but they are cautious about what lies ahead and 162 percent jobs were added in march, the most in three years, and unemployment is unchanged at a stubbornly high 9. %, and economic advisor christina romer says there is a hole in the economy from the recession. >> we still face a lot of head winds, i mean, this recession has been an absolutely terrible one and also an unusual one, having been caused by a financial crisis, created a lot of fear thats -- a lot of, we still have some trouble with debt, and, credit availability. >> reporter: the top economic advisor larry summers said we have a long way to go, before unemployment returns to pre-recession levels, of roughly 5%, about 1/3 of the new job creation in march was hiring for the census and today the number 2 republican, senator told "fox news sunday" we need more private sector jobs to sustain an economic recovery. senator jon kyl said republicans prefer to address job growth through tax relief, not spending. >> my idea is the president asked congress tomorrow, to give him the bill in a week and it freezes all tax rates and doesn't often cut them, holds them where they are and doesn't in po impose, the 500 plus billion dollars in the tax bill, and business would know that taxes will be stable, and they have the ability to raise capital and invest in their businesses. >> he says the economic stimulus package spent billions of dollars with very little effect on jobs. gregg. >> julie: malini wilkes live in washington. thanks. >> in other economic news, stocks soaring for five straight weeks now, the dow reaching the highest point in 18 months, at the closing bell on thursday. coming within 75 points of breaking the 11,000 mark. so what does it mean for the economy? and, the recovery, and, for your bottom line? joining me is fox senior business correspondent and the anchor of bulls & bears, brenda buttner. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> great news on wall street. people, though, wonder how it affects the rest of us, working and raising or families. >> very important question and you can look at the averages and this first quarter was undoubtedly the bulls were definitely running, one of the best quarters since the late 1990s. but you don't necessarily hold what the dow has, or what the s&p has, you really have to look at your 401k, and, unfortunately a lot of small investors were taking money out of stocks and putting them into safer so-called safer investments, like bonds, so many small investors missed out on this move. now, the good thing about that is, they do have cash, and they can put it into the market. which would drive the market higher. but, you know, there are a lot of hurdles, the bulls may face. >> i hear you the small investors are playing it more cautiously. and you know, i have read that with the latest jobs report of a creation of 162,000 jobs, per that report which came out on friday, wall street investors are now, quote-unquote speculating on it getting better, and by how much. speculating. oh, bad word, i have been told! isn't that what got us into hot water ahead of the recession? >> speculating is another word for investing, really. and what tomorrow will be the first time they really have a chance to act on that jobs report. which was a little bit better than expected. although, there -- you know, there is a lot of question about it. so, i'm not so sure we'll see a bull market tomorrow, but, let's remember, that history shows us that april is one of the two best months of the year, the first quarter generally nothing good happens, we're up 75%, since the march lows. so, the average investor has seen some gains and with some confidence, i think, they could start to invest. >> all right, so the small investors, though, do they know something we don't, about being cautious? is there something bad coming done the pike? i don't want to sound negative, i want to be prepared. >> well, a lot of people say that, you know, when this small investor throws in the towel, that is the time to go and get in. the truth is, that there's, you know, two definite camps on whether or not this... wall street is going to go higher. and, there are a lot of hurdles, the fed right now, is going to stop the easy money, and it started at the financial -- at the beginning of the financial crisis and will stop all of those credit lines, and, that is -- could be a real problem for the market. also, unemployment undoubtedly one of the post important parts of the equation. we need see consumers spend and they can't spend if they don't have jobs. >> brenda buttner, thank you. >> thank you. >> gregg: rescue teams in china pulling nine miners to safety after being trapped inside a flooded coal mine and the pictures show them being rushed into ambulances after the long ordeal and the problem began when miners accidentally broke a wall into an abandoned shaft releasing tons of floodwaters and the group of nine were along 152 miners trapped since last sunday and rescue crews are working around the clock to pump the water out of the mine. >> pope benedict xvi celebrated the holiest day on the christian calendar today, at the vatican. and tens of thousands of people attending the easter celebration in st. peter's square and delivering a message of hope to the faithful gathered before him. but, making no mention of the sex abuse scandal now plaguing the church, greg burke joins us live via phone and, what was the focus of the pope's message today. >> it was the joy of the resurrection and the joy of easter and yet at the same time said, easter is not magic, and there is grieve and suffering in the world but good will triumph over evil and he prayed for peace around the world and prayers for persecuting christians, he mentioned in particular, the situation in pakistan. right now. harris. >> greg, having been there on an easter sunday i can until, i know what it means to have the rain come down on you. there is no place to hide out there in the basilica area and what were people doing, as the rain was coming down, did it keep the crowds away. >> reporter: well, they came with umbrellas, i think, there were well over 100,000 people by noon when he gives his blessing in many different languages and probably about 100,000 umbrellas out there, as well and so many people, went on vacation, tourists or as pilgrims or to tourists and, they said, we have to make it and it was a big day to see the pope when he comes out and gives the greetings and they scooted out afterwards but it was pretty, pretty bad in terms of the weather. >> weather, though, not about it as much as the message. and gregg, the sex abuse scandal. it is in the headlines and probably not part of the pope's speech and we expect it not to be but is it talked about at all where you are now. >> reporter: it is but it wasn't the pope. today it was the powerful cardinal saying, basically, catholics will not be intimidated by what he called petty gossip in terms of the reports about that and praising pope benedict xvi for his leadership, so, the pope it will be a while before he comes back to it and spoke about it in the letter to the irish catholics, but today it was the cardinal. >> happy easter, reporting via phone from rome. >> gregg: christians from around the world observing easter in jerusalem with one of the biggest celebrations taking place close to one of christianity's holiest shrines. rena ninan has the story. >> reporter: gregg, services have been taking place throughout various churches in jerusalem and the one that gets the most attention is the holy sepulcher. and the site believed to be where jesus was crucified, and, then buried. one of the masses was led by late in patriarch, and christians from around the world came here to commemorate the day of jesus' resurrection and once every four years, easter is marked on the same day for christians of all denominations. usually, orthodox easter comes several weeks later, today, it is taking place at the same time. it was a bit more crowded inside the holy sepulcher and easter comes this year with heightened security. jerusalem remains on high alert because it is also the jewish holiday of passover. a closure is implemented for the west bank, until tuesday morning, when the holiday ends. gregg? >> gregg: rena ninan, thanks. >> the height is on. democrats in the lead-up to the november midterm elections, there's a lot of parallels to their 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the thousand tons of oil from seeping into the water and the first family takes time out for easter services, the obamas taking communion this morning at the ame church in washington, and washington's mayor, was there along with his wife as well. ♪ ♪ >> gregg: many democrats have seen poll numbers dip since passing health care reform and republicans hope this year's midterm elections will resemble 1994 when the g.o.p. rose up taking control of the house. many similarities do exist, between what is happening now in 1994 -- and 1994 but there are key differences, could history really repeat itself? or not? joining us now the chief political correspondent for the washington examiner, byron york. good to see you. >> gregg, good to be here. >> gregg: often in midterm elections the party in power bears the brunt of discontent and judging by a recent spate of polls, discontent over health care is acute. i know it is early, but how would you handicap republican chances of winning back either or both houses. >> republicans need 40 seats and need to win 40 seats, to win back the house. that is a huge, huge task. but, i'll give you some numbers from real clear politics, there are 18 democratic seats that are leaning toward republicans and there are two republican states linked to democrats and there are 29 democratic seats thought to be toss-ups and one republican seat thought to be a toss-up and looks good for republicans, right now. >> gregg: "time" magazine's jay newton small has an interesting piece and i know you have read it. i read it. it cites five reasons why democrats are not running scared and among them, the first one they list, is the r.n.c. chairman, michael steele, they all him a liability, the gift that keeps on giving. is that true? >> well, there is no doubt, i think the democrats will make some use of that. democrats really made very good use of the so-called culture of corruption issue against republicans, in 2006, and, in 2008, but, now, when you have charles rangel, and david patterson and eliot spitzer and john edwards, it will be a harder case for them to make, even if steele continues to have really high profile problems. >> gregg: are democrats doing a better job of fund-raising than the g.o.p.? >> absolutely. that is not really to be surprising, because, the party in power, the one that has all of the chairmanships on capitol hill usually win the fund-raising race and they are doing better, all the three committees, the democratic national committee and the senate and house committee are ahead of where republicans are, right now. >> gregg: and the other argument, that was being made in the "time" magazine piece is, you know, the tea party equation can work both ways, it can end up cannibalizing g.o.p. candidates, what do you think? >> well, it certainly can. for example, there is a race in virginia, tom periello, barely won last time and there are five or seven republicans, lined up to run against him, and, clearly, they are all taking energy from each other and the question is, after they have their primary and somebody emerges, the winner will everybody on the republican conservative side unite behind them or will there still be divisions, so, what is going on right now, is, kind of divisive primary processes and republicans are certainly hoping that after that is over, it will -- they'll be able to get together. >> gregg: in 1994, there is another difference here, newt gingrich, you know, with the grand out sized personality, manifesto, for the contract for america. really gal vovanized support an here's the quote by jay newton small of "time" magazine and there is no clear-cut dynamic leader to spearhead the charge and challenge obama and the the way newt gingrich challenged clinton, and will that maybe not hurt democrats as much as some people think. >> newt gingrich looms larger in retrospect than at the time and people were surprised, political observers were surprised when republicans won 50-plus seats and took over the house and senate and before then they didn't think newt gingrich would be a huge transformational leader but it is true, now republicans don't have anybody of his stature and the minority leader in the house, john boehner is not thought to be an inspirational figure the way newt gingrich was in 1992, 1993 and 1994. >> gregg: and the first couple of years, year-and-a-half for bill clinton, in the 1990s, he got off to an abysmal start, i mean, even he admits that. and when you juxtapose the obama administration's first year in two -- and two months it has substantial legislative victories, hard fought, albeit. stimulus bill and obviously, health care reform. so isn't that another critical difference. >> the big plus for democrats is the victory on health care reform, now, the democratic base is disspirited in the week leading up to the vote on health care reform and they were disappointed in the president and their congressional leadership and a lot of it went away, after they won health care reform. so, that certainly helps from a democratic base, perspective. on the other hand, the polling for health care reform has not really changed. since it passed, and you have anywhere from, you know, 45 to 55% of the american public saying they oppose what congress did. now, is that going to help democrats at the polls in november? i don't know. >> gregg: well, byron york, chief political correspondent for the washington examiner, we'll wait and see. it will be interesting. thank you. >> thank you, gregg. >> a shakeup on the way for the supreme court? talk circulating about justice john paul stevens saying he will surely retire while president barack obama is still in office and if so, it would give president obama a second opportunity, to fill a vacancy on the high court and caroline shivley has details in washington. >> reporter: [no audio]. >> we have an audio problem there, unfortunately, and if we can get it fixed and bring you that report, we will. >> gregg: in the meantime the countdown begins for the end of the shuttle program. discovery. set to blast off into space, tomorrow morning, and there it is on the launch pad. one of the last scheduled launches for the shuttle and now, the battle is beginning, to see who will get their hands on one of the famous orbiters. ♪ ♪... to the sky ♪ like a tiger ♪ defying this laws of gravity. my doctor said most calcium supplements... aren't absorbed properly unless taken with food. he recommended citracal. it's different -- it's calcium citrate, so it can be absorbed with or without food. also available in small, easy-to-swallow petites. citracal. real chicken and salmon and the goodness of leafy greens. you live well. you eat right. help your cat do the same. naturals from purina cat chow. >> i'm chap bill clinton joe coffee in afghanistan, i'd like to shout out to my family and friends in philadelphia, pennsylvania and i wish you all a happy easter. god bless you. ♪ ♪ >> the bottom of the hour, time for the top of the news. three car bombs killed more than 40 people in baghdad, the attacks rocking foreign embassy, officials say they are aimed at forcing the destruction of the new coalition government. >> it is hoped john paul stevens puts off his retirement and he said he'll step down during the president's term. and arlen specter warned court vacancy will gridlock the senate. >> and a special look at american troops attending an easter sunrise service in afghanistan. everyone here wishing them a happy easter, god bless. >> gregg: though discovery, getting a green light for lift off tomorrow morning, one of the last shuttle missions, blasting off to space will soon be history and once the program ends the shuttles will be the ultimate collector's item. and across america, museums are competing hard to snag one of the iconic spacecraft to put on display. lauraing in gal has more. >> there are at -- laura ingle has more. >> museums want pieces of the action and curators are pulling out the stops to convince nasa officials their museum is deserving of show casing a space shuttle. and as this -- and discovery, atlantis and endeavor and the discovery is promised to the smithsonian and, educational museums and science museums and other organizations, have been quizzed about what they would have to offer and the air, space and museum, is making a pitch, right here in new york city. >> new york is a no-brainer. the perfect choice of all nasa is looking for. it is a perfect home and there is no place in the country with 45 million people, come to visit it every year. >> reporter: so, there is a $28.8 million price tag on the shuttle and it isn't free which the intrepid museum which you see here says they are ready for. and nasa officials say that is how much it will cost to prepare the shuttle for display and transport them to the organizations that are chosen and there is something else, nasa requires the facility already be in place for a city to even be considered in the, and the museum of flight is hoping being one step ahead of the game will work in their faster and plan on building a $12 million display case, even before knowing if they are chosen. >> we believe that we have again one of the greatest facilities in the united states. and, a fantastic staff and exhibition staff that is second to none... >> reporter: and some of the others vying for the shuttles include tell you sarin tulsa, and san diego, california and, some question spending the money but the museums say it is an investment and they'll make the money back. >> gregg: laura ingle, live in our new york newsroom, thanks. >> a bloody scene in a crowded los angeles restaurant, a popular one, actually, and, now, a manhunt is on for the gunman, and police searching for suspects in -- a suspect in his 30s and witnesses say he opened fire at the san fernando cafe and four men shot and killed and police say it may have been a result of gang violence. casey steegel is live in los angeles to fill us in. hey, casey. >> reporter: harris, a lot of interesting information an neighbors characterize the hot spot cafe where it went down yesterday, behind me as a shady place and they say it has dark tinted windows and you couldn't look inside and a lot of times they didn't see people eating inside but saw folks coming and going, at odd times. but, it was open for dinner yesterday. around 4:30 in the afternoon, local time, when the gunman opened fire. inside and you can still see the bullet holes on the walls, of the mom and pop mediterranean cafe, the schooen sceene was a mess, three died on the scene and two rushed to the hospital, one died on the way and one critical, all victims said to be in their 20s and the gunman fleeing on foot and still remains at large. >> we don't believe it was a random act where an individual or individuals walked into an eatery, a restaurant here in north hollywood and opened fire, indiscriminately. >> reporter: police say it could be linked to armenian gangs but will not disclose what evidence or information they have, to support that theory. they are just saying they don't believe members of the general public are in danger. in the meantime, there has been some police activity at the cafe behind me, it has subsided, at this point, but, a lot of people have been gathering in the parking lot, really, shocked, to hear this sad news, right on the day before easter, harris. >> no doubt, casey steegel reporting live, thank you very much. >> gregg: pastor and best-selling author rick warren getting help from his superstar friends this easter sunday. >> ♪ ♪ we don't have time left to...♪ >> the jonas probrothers, lendi their talent, to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the saddle back church. take a listen: >> jesus never claimed i'm a good teacher. jesus never claimed i'm a great prophet. jesus said, i am god, in human form. and i will prove it, by letting them put me to death, where i die for the sins of mankind, as the substitution for your sins and i will come back to life and prove that i was who i said i was. >> gregg: and looking back at the church's humble beginnings when a congregation of 7 people, ba in 1980 and today, church attendance averages, 22,000 across five campuses. >> and services didn't go accord to a plan at one church in wisconsin. >> [inaudible]. >> hard to hear with the echo. this is video from the cathedral of st. john the evangelist in milwaukee and the heckler had decided to preach his own sermon, apparently he was ranting about the churches's abuse allegations, dominating the headlines. interrupting the archbishop and ruining easter mass for hundreds of the faithful. and the man was quebec escorted from the sanctuary, as you saw and they rushed him out and the rest of the mass proceeded without incident. >> gregg: a time when many folks are getting together with their families and friends, celebrating the holiday and preparing for easter dinners, some nfl players are giving back. in south florida, the miami dolphins running a food bank for the needy. and donovan campbell reports. >> reporter: with the host of his team -- help of teammates reccy williams put smiles on many families' faces for easter. >> when you are a young football player you don't realize the opportunities you have to help, and, so hopefully i'll serve as an example to the younger players, take the opportunity to get out in h to the community and do something positive and when you make a mistake, which we all make, it won't be so bad. >> it is good give back to the community and with holidays and back to school things i love to come out and, you know, ricky asked us all to come out and support and help and, you know, i think everybody really wanted to. >> reporter: conjunction with the ricky williams foundation, feeding south florida and public and people who benefitted from the generosity sure appreciate it. >> i think it is outstanding for florida, and all the people in need, and it couldn't happen at a better time. >> we got gravy, for the mashed potatoes. we've got green bean casserole. and, sweet potato casserole. >> helping out the homeless and things like that. it is very good. >> does it warm your heart to know these guys make millions of dollars and taking their time on their day off to help the unfortunate. >> it is in the a problem for them. they -- it warms my heart. it does. >> the distribution of more than 300 meals to the less fortunate was something williams and his fellow dolphins enjoyed being a part of. especially, the offensive line men. >> and it is important to give back to the community i grew up in, and, to see ricky williams coming back and giving back, it motivates me to do more. so, i'm happy to help them out. >> any time you say -- they don't understand the food is not for them, with the line man, when you say "food" the big guys will be there. >> gregg: donovan campbell reporting from miami gardens. >> easter sunday in 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minutes away and pope benedict xvi saying easter brings a message of goodness and truth but he didn't mention the sex abuse cover-up allegation plaguing the church. >> as the president is traveling the country, selling the benefits of health care reform, some states are gearing up to oppose it on the grounds that it violates the u.s. constitution. earlier we interviewed oregon's attorney general, john kroger, defending the legislation as constitutional, well, here's now the other side of the debate, joining us is south carolina attorney general, henry mcmaster. welcome, sir, thanks for being with us. since the -- >> glad to be here. >> gregg: since the 1930s the u.s. supreme court repeatedly said congress can regulate almost anything that involves economic or commercial activity. so, how is this law unconstitutional? >> well, that's the thing, this one goes to far -- there were recent cases and one was the lopez case and one was the morrison case, 1995, and 2000, that said that there is a limit, to commerce, but, here you have someone sitting at home that doesn't want to buy health insurance, doesn't think they need it and are not interested in it and you have the u.s. congress telling them they have to go out and buy it and they are not in commerce, they are out of commerce. so, this is taking somebody out of commerce, and putting it in and this is a big difference. >> gregg: the most recent, though, commerce clause case is, i'm sure you know it, gonzalez in 2005. and, it may trump morrison and lopez. justice scalia wrote that in case, even noneconomic activity can be regulated by congress, if it is... and this is quote... a necessary part of a more general regulation of interstate commerce. so doesn't scalia's opinion -- and he's a conservative -- support what congress did? >> well, that would be the argument the other side will make, but, still, what -- now we have 15 skates involved -- excuse me, 16 and there may be more as well as other people, and we say it simply goes too far and you cannot tell someone they have to go out and buy something, they don't want and they don't think they need. and, so that is the fallacy, and this thing, this law goes off the scale, threatening state sovereignty, individual liberties, a very, very big, important question, and, we look forward to a full hearing. >> gregg: but the uninsured, the uninsured, affect the health care marketplace and this is the point in time john kroger the oregon attorney general made in the last hour and they often go to hospitals, which, by law, are required to treat them. and, it is a cost to the system, a big one and is passed along to insurance companies and consumers, and, in the form of higher premiums, and higher costs, and doesn't the failure of, my goodness, 32 million americans, to get health insurance, affect commerce, thus allowing congress to regulate it? >> i don't think so. but, of course that will be the ultimate question, but, if you take that argument to its logical extreme, as some of our colleagues are, then, everything affects commerce in one way or another and there would be nothing that could escape the power of congressional -- congress to regulate. the line has to be drawn somewhere. and that is why we have state governments and those state governments are the ones that gave the authority to the national government, and that is why you have enumerated powers and the 10th amendment and we say it goes way too far, and we are fighting it. >> gregg: as madison says the powers of the federal government are few and finite and the powers of state government are numerous and infinite. and thus the feds here may be violating state sovereignty and let's forget about the commerce clause. doesn't the constitution give congress the power to tax and spend for the general welfare under article one, section 8, so they can go the tax route here and say, this is therefore constitutional? >> well, the congress -- you have a point there, of course, if the congress were simply taxing people, as they are for a variety of other things including highways and the military and everything else we do, sure they can use the tax power for that. but, still the only certain things the congress can regulate, that is -- this has to be approached through the commerce clause and is not a taxing question. >> gregg: there is precedent and with all due respect to john kroger, the attorney general he was wrong inciting the case as precedent and the bitter precedents was the militia act of 1792. signed by president george washington and mandated each new recruit show up with weapons and ammunition which they out of their own pockets had to buy and it wasn't cheap. how is making people buying insurance now any different than that case? >> well, that is a good question, but the way we look at it is when the states were getting together after the revolutionary war, of course george washington had to fund a lot of the revolutionary activity himself out out of his own pocket and they got certain powers and kept some themselves and this is not a good exercise of the commerce power and this is like the national government requiring somebody to go out and buy car insurance, for example, a state can require you to do that but even a state cannot require you to do that if you don't have a car, you don't have to buy a car liability insurance much less, can the u.s. government require you to do something. what we're saying is, there is a line somewhere, and it may be hazy and we hope this case will make a distinction between what the congress can do, and what the congress cannot do, and what is left for the states gunshot wound and the militia act may have been unconstitutional as well, it is just that it was never challenged legally, that i can determine, so, that is how you can dismiss that one. i want to say many thanks to south carolina attorney general henry mcmaster, thanks for being with us, this easter sunday. appreciate it. >> thank you very much. >> gregg: medical researchers have long touted the benefits of red wine, leaving many folks to fill up a glass and toast to their health and now scientists try to use what is in red wine to create a special drug that lets you legislatiive a long any life, does it work? hi, we're the campbells. here's what we can do with 4g from sprint. using the overdrive 4g mobi hotspot, jimmy's playing some video game online, jenny's video-chatting with a friend, nd i'm downlding a huge presentati. and while that's happening, we'll enjoy some family time. 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a part of the nutrient family to help our metabolism get higher an controls the sugar and that is the message, by controlling your sugar, you will reduce the diabetes, and you will live longer. >> doctor, they did the study and used mice instead of humans as they looked at resveritrol and what did they find, exactly. >> they look at two groups and the first group of mice they give them fatty foods and let them eat whatever they wanted and of course, they had diabetes and, fatty liver and died early and the second group they gave them safe alternatives and resveritrol and they did not that he have heart disease. >> it worked. >> they are onto something and there is something there and it's not done in human beings and we don't have randomized studies but what it does is increases insulin sensitivity and controls your sugar, and that is important and i keep mentioning sugar control and watch what you eat and the other thing, it increases your metabolism, on a microscopic level and the might tro chon drea, all the -- might chon drea. and, eating healthy and drink your -- >> gregg: what about white wine? >> that is different, the resveritrol is in the skin of grapes and that is part of the red grape, red wine and, what do i do? i drink a glass or two, every night. >> do you really. >> i do. i like the taste of it and i lived in europe, it became part of my life and, look, taking your omega three, gregg is important, and exercise and build up the muscle and watch what you eat and the sugar is a big problem. by redoing it you'll live longer. >> i've read, you say the way we metabolize sugar, is what causes us to age. >> 100%. so when we talk about medication and relaxing that reduces your cortisone level and chromes your diabetes, by taking the resveritrol which is not really for humans to use, that also increases your insulin and reduces your sugar, and all of that plays a big role and i think it is a start and we are not quite there and i don't want people to take the pills and eat whatever they want and you have to be responsible for yourself... >> gregg: and the two things i heard you say is relaxation is important and resveritrol is important and in other words, if i sit on the couch all day long and drink red wine i'm in great shape! >> you're already doing that. >> that is the wrong message. >> gregg: i'll tell my wife, it is okay. >> i want to press in a little bit and you say you drink a couple of glasses a wine. is there a coincidence, when i drink a glass of red wine with dinner i also don't overeat and i get full faster and there is something in the wine that keeps me from eating as much. >> well, look you want to watch the portion of the food that you eat, and, so, portion control, having a glass of red wine is healthy, it is fine, unless you have liver disease and your doctor told you not to touch it. >> am i the only one who experiences that. >> it suppresses some of your appetite, also, and is helpful. >> gregg: it makes me hungry. >> i think taking your times vitamins and doing the exercise, and watching what you eat, all the things we have spoken about, all of these years works. >> no shortcuts, any downside to using resveritrol, it is a nutrient and if you overconsume it what is this downside. >> we have no studies in humans and until we have a randomized... >> how did the mice do. >> they did fine on the... >> gregg: but mice aren't people. >> and don't live long enough for to us know. they only live a year and we have to be more patient. >> gregg: doctor, as always, thanks for being with us. >> we toast to you! >> thank you, good to see you, to your health. >> gregg: a beautiful day on the plaza, 6th avenue, folks are finally getting out. that's it for us. thanks for joining us. >> "fox news sunday" with chris wallace, now. 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