united states to slap sanctions on putin to try to stop him from launching an invasion. saying earlier that if you slap sanctions on a person for something that they have not done yet, it takes away the impetus for them to not do it. might as well go ahead. the security council meeting in russia was broadcast far and wide. have you heard anything there in ukraine officially about the potential of this announcement to declare donetsk and luhansk as independent? >> i think ukraine has really been battling disinformation. trip side trip with wild accusations from the russian side about unusual attacks from the ukrainian milim saboteurs who have been crossing over the border. just wild, reckless, unsubstantiated. they are not even taken seriously. that whole security council meeting in the kremlin really