like 30 fold off because if you look at the reported numbers, roughly half of them are not for covid, they are simply with covid. so the number is massively exaggerated. when you are talking about somebody making a major policy decision, that's concerning. >> john: you know, you tweeted about something this morning which prompted me to look it up. an article by a man who won the nobel prize for discovering hiv, and another, and wrote about the vaccine mandates saying omicron can beat the vaccines, so it's moot. they wrote it would be rational, legally indefensiveible to stopping the pathogen they target but that's what's happening here. do you agree with them, doc? >> i do. omicron changes the calculus on any vaccine mandate and the case to do such, so do therapeutics.