doing it this year with extended return policies by some of the major retailers. up to 90 days in some cases. you can take back what you bought and some cases you'll can keep it. the total amount of returns supposed to be an all-time record. supposed to be 114 billion. from the mall, back to you. >> jeff, quick follow up question for you there. are you seeing any evidence where you're staked out today that people are doing stress shopping? i mean -- >> i think you're right. perhaps we leave you with a picture of the folks out here doing that. people are getting out again. we don't see any masks here. we see people enjoying the holiday shopping. i think you're on to something there, gillian. >> jeff flock in lancaster.