of travel and everything going up? inflation is a regressive tax that hurts people at the bottom the most. unfortunately, there's not much of an upside to the entire inflation rates. just ask jimmy carter who lost his election to ronald reagan because of high inflation. >> sandra: jason, is there any way to look at inflation as a good thing for an average american family? >> inflation is bad thing. i have been consistent in saying that. right now, it is eating up the wages of workers in this country. there are winners and losers for certain people of all you have is a mortgage and you are on social security. you are benefiting now. there are winners and losers. but on balance, it's not a good thing. >> sandra: buys us out there? why would see and impose that headline? we're hearing it from the white house as well.