manner. it is not correct sir? >> that is correct. i think also, you would probably agree that the withdrawal on august 30th or august 31 deadline was probably not an orderly -- done in an orderly manner, either, was it? >> there are two issues here senator. first of all you recall that joe miller planned for an orderly evacuation and people in retrograde of equipment, and it was rehearsed and extricated that by early july, all the equipment that we wanted to retrograde has been retrograde and most of the people are out except for a small element that was in and around the embassy