faces, and bret, you've seen it, it's showing up in the pulse. biden's overall approval rating sinking to 43% and even his approval rating among independents in september seeking to 37%. that's down from 61% in january. >> it's a death slide and there are many democrats, especially terry in virginia who is looking at those numbers. come november, how the president is doing will affect those races. this is not a great stretch for this president. and for democrats overall. they are going to try to pull a rabbit out of the how the legislative up on the hill. >> when you look at how his numbers are crateering among independents. independents are where races are won and lost.