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up with ab offer, so what is your offer to get the cuts, the president basically had so -- to say, that's vice president biden's job, and he's going to pick back up on that on june 9th, and they're going to start trying to hash out an answer. so you get the sense, and i think a lot of republicans in that room had that sense from the folks that i've talked to, that this was a bit of political theatrics that the president can say i'm addressing this subject, i'm engaged on this debate. we need to force a government shutdown if you don't get an increase in the debt ceiling. martha: brit hume had some interesting comments on "special report" about the way this whole, just the basic fact, and we have to reiterate to everybody, there's been no budget. that is congress' number one job of what they're supposed to do when they get elected, go to washington, put together a budget for the country. here's what brit had to say about that last night. let's listen to that. >> senate democrats refusing to even pass a budget despite the law's requirements that they do so. this is remarkably cynical even by the primitive standards of contemporary washington. the reporters who cover this town know this. they know entitlement spending is out of control and must be restrained. they know the republicans are trying, and they can see the democrats are not. but will they call them out as they surely would the republicans if roles were reversed? so far it hasn't happened. martha: interesting observation, chris. >> reporter: well, right. and when brit can call it cynical after all that he has seen and done in washington, you know that's some pretty cynical stuff. and right now the administration is in a bind because i think the president wants to be able to say when he runs for re-election, i dealt with entitlement reform, things like medicare and social security, the stuff that's eating us out of house and home from a budgetary perspective. but if you engage on it in a real way, you deprive your fellow democrats of a way to run for office next year and deprives himself -- martha: you wonder how long that kind of duck and cover, though, can go on, you know, on both sides before it starts getting so ugly in the economy that people start to say, hey, you know, what are you guys up to anyway in washington? paul ryan went in there, basically, he said, you know, he gave -- this quote, hey, i'm that ryan guy. he's been talked about a lot recently, and of course, with his medicare plan, and he claims he wants to make it very clear that he feels his ideas about medicare have been misrepresented. >> well, right. not just misrepresented, but misrepresented by president obama's party. and the call from ryan and others, you heard that when ryan was talking to bill clinton a couple weeks ago, the call is, look, if you want to do something about it, you have to stop demagoguing us when we try to fix it. and that, as brit points out, that's actually starting to get a little traction here in the washington press corps. reporters look at this and say, gosh, republicans have grabbed the third rail, they're still doing it, when are the democrats going to come across? so for now the president can hold and wait for president biden to get back from a european trip, but pretty soon they're going to have to come up with a plan, and then we get down to the wrestling mat. martha: chris thank you, chris stirewalt in washington. so as of today our nation's debt stands at more than $14.3 trillion in this country. it was just over two weeks ago that the president's treasury secretary announced that we had hit our limit. that is not the half of it. according to secretary tim geithner, we must raise the debt limit, he believes, by august the 2nd, or he says the country will simply run out of money. if lawmakers fail to act, the government will begin to default on their obligations according to the treasury secretary and risk turmoil in the financial markets that might plunge the nation into another recession or, a word that's being used once again, the d word, an economic depression. but so far the house has rejected that debt ceiling increase. we're tracking the latest developments on all of this on foxnews.com. this is the hot debate of the summer, folks, and we are on top of it right here on "america live." all right, we want to get you to in this amp as well. we have breaking news now that has to do with new york democratic congressman anthony weiner. he has just scheduled -- this has just come out moments ago -- that he will do a series of interviews with all of the major media outlets to respond to the questions that are surrounding a photo that was uploaded on his twitter page and sent to a young woman. this is a live picture outside of his capitol hill office. as you can see, you know, the reporters are gathering out there and photographers, and so forth. andrew breitbart's big government web site first reported this past saturday that the congressman had sent a picture of, basically, a man in underwear. he has not said whether that is him, he's refused to talk about it, and that the picture went to a female college student in california. you may remember republican lawmaker chris lee had to resign in the middle of his term for a similar move, so this raises a lot of questions. the congressman immediately claimed that his account was hacked. since then he has hired a lawyer, but he has repeatedly refused to say whether that picture that was sent is of him. he has not said one way or the other. he also won't say if he took the picture. he was asked a lot of pointed questions by reporters on this yesterday afternoon. to the best of our knowledge, he has also declined in the getting any police agencies in figuring out who hacked into his twitter account or computer system. he is sitting down for the first interview in the about five minutes. bret baier is scheduled to talk to him, and we will bring you this breaking news on, anthony, what does he want to say to these reporters, and what will he tell them? we'll get it to you, so keep it right here. this news is going to come out over the next several minutes, so we'll be right back to that story in a moment. well, if you touch your computers, you're going down. that is, essentially, the fascinating development that is coming from the pentagon which now considers cyber attacks an act of war. it is setting the stage for the u.s. to respond to hostile hackers with military force in some cases. national correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington with the details on this. >> reporter: thank you, martha. defense department officials confirm military force is an option when the nation is threatened by cyber attacks, part of a long-term national strategy on cybersecurity and defense. cyber weapons have been used by one of the u.s. government's most important allies, great britain, against al-qaeda in yemen. now, last june the group launched its online magazine for digital jihadists called inspire, the magazine is believed to be the work of an american from south carolina targets english-speaking recruits. it's an online tutorial on how to train and launch your own personal jihad. there was debate about whether this magazine should 125eu, be taken off line or whether it was better to leave it up and see who was tracking it. but as the debate continued, a congressional source confirms that a british cyber attack left most of the online magazine garbled which led to a meltdown on the web forums, and it took the better part of two weeks for al-qaeda in yemen to post a new version. language has been drafted that would make it easier for the defense secretary to exconstitute secret -- execute secret operations in cyberspace. i've had colonels come back to me and talk about how they thought they could do a better job of protecting their troops if they could deal with a particular web site. yet because it was cyber, it was all new, unexplored territory that got into lots of lawyers from lots of agencies being involved. and what we're seeing here, martha, is really an acknowledgment that cyber is one of the emerging threats the united states faces and one of the most likely scenarios in the future based on my reporting is a combination of a cyber threat with a traditional attack like a car bomb, in effect, really what amounts to a one-two punch against this country. martha: boy, that could be very debilitating in certain scenarios. catherine, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. martha: fox news alert because there are new developments in the murder trial of casey anthony. a bombshell admission dropped by a close family member. right now the court's in the recess for lunch. casey's brother, lee anthony, was on the stand, and he described their mother's reaction to the birth of 2-year-old caylee like this. >> my mother had also referenced caylee as being a mistake, but the great mistake or the best mistake casey's ever made. martha: phil keating is live outside the courthouse with an update. hi, phil. >> reporter: hawaii, martha. -- hi, martha. it's pretty evident upstairs behind me inside the courtroom that casey anthony, the first-degree murder defendant, and her brother lee have a much better relationship than, say, casey anthony's relationship with her mother and her father, especially going back three years ago this month when caylee anthony first disappeared. inside the courtroom lee and casey shared a smile, a sad smile, and she even gave him a little bit of a smirk, kind of the old sorry you have to do this, kind of a smirk. but up on the stand lee anthony then testified in many front of the jury how he tried to play mediator between casey anthony and her mother, cindy anthony, who was angry, fighting with casey, desperately trying to get her to divulge where her granddaughter was. casey anthony over and over again told the story that caylee was sleeping at the nanny's participant, but as the defense now concedes, the nanny never existed. she was imaginary. and during this heated fight tween casey and her mom, lee testified casey said she would not take them to where caylee was because, quote, because i'm a spiteful bitch. the car parked in the anthony garage, and her brother lee says when he arrived, he was overcome by an overwhelming, potent stench. >> what do you recall about the smell of the car? >> just that it was very potent, very strong. >> reporter: that same very night, that's the night cindy anthony made those 911 phone calls, got the sheriff's deputies to arrive at the house, and prior to the lunch break there was an orange county detective on the stand, and he testified under cross-examination by jose baez that, in fact, three to four officers arrived at the anthony home that night, not one of them reported an unusual stench coming from that car. back to you. martha: all right. phil, thank you very much. just minutes from now one of the smartest lawyers we know tells us why she thinks that casey anthony will walk in this situation. you don't want to miss her argument and why she says that the young mother will get off with no punishment at all. incredible scenario, we'll talk about that a little while from now. and at home a woman making a desperate call for help reporting an intruder. >> he's coming in, he's in my room. >> ma'am? >> please come. >> teresa, teresa, just stay on the phone, don't talk. >> what do you want? is -- what do you want? >> you know what i want. >> no, i don't! but i'll give it to you, just tell me what you want! martha: wow. we'll show you what happened next. and imagine this, trouble with some passengers on a packed airliner escalate to the fact where they had to call in an air force escort for this plane. and also coming up, as main street struggles to recover from the economic slump, wait until you see the latest reporting on what is actually happening in the town of washington d.c. limousines, big salaries, soaring home values. what's the kit -- disconnect? we're going to talk to monica crowley about the streets of gold when she comes in, moments from now. ♪ -hey, mom. -what's for dinner? i was just thinking about that. ♪ hmmm...italian. [ female announcer ] thinking italian tonight? hamburger helper has six delicious flavors, like lasagna. hamburger helper. one pound, one pan, one happy family. like eve single american airlines flight. orbitz doesn't have them. but you'll find all 3,400 of them at aa.com. every day. martha: all right, a reminder now, we have breaking news dealing with new york democratic congressman anthony weiner. he has just scheduled a series of interviews with all of the major media outlets surrounding the questions of a photo uploaded on his twitter page. this is a picture of his capitol hill office, there's a very large crowd gathering. he's sitting down for the first interview in a couple of moments. they're going to come in and out, our breath bayer among them -- breath bare among them, and we will speak with him after he sits down with congressman wiener who wants to get past all of this, but we'll see what he's about to talk about with regard to the photo and all of the mystery surrounding it. all right, let's get back to the economy and the dollars and cents here for a moment. new signs today that washington may not be on the same page as the rest of the country when it comes to the economy. a new report says that 77,000 federal workers make more money than the governor who runs their states, if you can believe that. and they're traveling in style, too, some of these workers. the federal government's limo fleet is up 73% since 2008, and when it comes to the real estate market, guess where things are rosy as the cherry blossoms in the springtime in d.c.? a lot of americans across the country are seeing red, not in washington. it is the only market out of 20 that reported positive growth in the first quarter. so here now to sort of assess what all of these things taken together really tell us about washington, monica crowley, radio talk show host and fox news contributor, obvious. monica. >> martha. so, you know, three stories, all sort of out there on the same day. march ma what do they tell us about what's going on inside the beltway? >> well, it tells us that the federal government is running an annual deficit of about $1.6 trillion. it tells us the federal government is running a national debt of $14.3 trillion, a ceiling which we just crashed through last week, the week before, and it tells us that the feds really don't mind any of that huge overhang of deficit spending or debt because they're partying like it's 1999. i mean, a new fleet of limos, 77,000 federal employees making more than their respective governors do. martha: yeah. let's break down some of this, you know, so everybody can understand what we're talking about here. 77,000 federal employees in a study that was just released make more than the governors in their state. for example, some of these workers, a lot of them are doctors and, you know, everyone likes to see a good doctor paid handsomely, or paid well, i should say. then you get to the air traffic controllers, also an important job. then you have food service workers who are making more than the governor, i love that one. >> right. martha: and an interior decorator also making more than the governor. governors make, just so people know, martin o'malley makes $150,000 in maryland, and then as another comparison, you have bill ritter in colorado who makes $90,000 a year. but the point is, you know, we're seeing a lot of inflation in federal salaries. >> look, the government is completely different from the private sector because there is no profit motive there. when you've got a profit motive, you want to make as much money as possible and keep your costs down. you want to run an efficient ship. the government doesn't have any of that dynamic and never did, so you get this kind of thing. the problem now is these kinds of stories tell us the democratic leadership in the white house, in the senate and until very recently in the house, they've been so out of touch with spending, with what the american people want in terms of fiscal responsibility that they've gone down this road of out of control spending. and what the american people said in november, what we continue to say is the spending binge has to stop because the american people are requiring it, martha, but also because the bond markets, right? other markets around the world are saying, wait a minute, the united states, their full faith and credit is no longer so great, and we have to look carefully -- martha: some of these things may seem, you know, somewhat superficial, but they're a reflection of the mind set. this was a study done by part of the center for public integrity that said the number of limousines went up 73%, and they say in fairness some of those orders may have gone in at the end of the bush administration, so overlapping that administration and this one, you've got an increase of 73%. and they're not chint si sedans. they're cadillac vtss, that's the choice of the state department. and we showed this picture of air force one. i don't think anybody has a problem with that, of course, but we're talking about, you know, sort of who's running the budget and who's putting these limousines into the bottom line, the taxpayers are paying for. >> we want the president to have a sweet ride, but we don't want your garden variety federal government employee having a sweet ride at a cost to the taxpayers. look, this is what happens when you have big government policies and spending. you get this kind of largess flowing among government workers and to government workers, and there's no checks and balanc. you've got conservatives now, a new wave of them, tea party members in the congress and the senate, trying to put the brakes on this, but they can't do it by themselves. martha: responsibility in being a service worker than being a golf of a -- governor of a state. a little too stressful. monica, thank you very much. as always, great to see you. we do have some breaking news we need to get to, a car bomb has just gone off outside a hotel in benghazi where fox news reporter dan springer and our crew is are staying. we have live pictures coming from libya right now. you can get a sense of the scene on the ground there. this bomb literally exploded in the last 10-15 minutes. we have dan springer on the phone live at the scene. dan, what can you tell us? >> reporter: yeah, martha, this is an ominous sign. we've been wondering if there was going to be any sort of pro-gadhafi acts of violence in benghazi which is the heart of the opposition, and this is the first time we've seen any sort of attack. this was a car bomb that took place just outside of the hotel, we're about 200 yards away from the scene that you're seeing right now. and this is about 10, 15 minutes old, so they've got the fires out. but we can tell you that about five cars were involved, and then it looked like it threw another car another 50 yards away from the scene that we're watching right now. one guy got up on top of one of the vehicles that was burning and was celebrating, and he was quickly taken away by the anti-gadhafi forces that are, really, all over the place in benghazi here. this is a place that has felt very, very safe. this hotel, in particular, is a place that a lot of westerners have been staying, a lot of journalists. it's also been the scene of many dignitaries, the foreign minister of italy was just here yesterday, so it's a place with fairly good security, and we haven't felt like we needed a whole lot more security before today. this is the first time we've seen any sort of attack by what appears to be an anti-gadhafi supporter. martha: that is disturbing. benghazi has been a stronghold really of american and nato support for what's going on in libya. what are we hearing in the background? there's noise in the background of your shot there, dan. >> reporter: yeah. we're hearing a lot of people out there, it's a chaotic scene, as you can imagine. this was a powerful blast. i was down in the basement of the hotel, and it shook the whole building. our security guy told me that we had, parts of the ceiling were caving in, and then we heard shots fired afterwards. we have no idea who's responsible for this attack, i cannot see if there are any injury down there. again, several cars involved, but i can tell you that there must be some damage to this hotel because it was a powerful explosion that took place about 15 minutes ago. martha: wow. you know, so you say you don't have any sense at this point of the injuries, but you believe there were several cars that were involved in this. is there any, you know, police presence on the street, any effort to sort of calm the crowd? what's the movement in terms of containing the situation to whatever extent possible? >> reporter: yeah. to give you a sense of the police presence here, every time we drive our vehicle into this hotel, we have to pass by armed security. this, where this car bomb went off, it was actually past the first layer of security but not past the second, so they didn't get the car bomb all the way up to the area where you get out of your car and walk right into the hotel. so it was a little, probably i'd say 100, 150 yards away from the entrance to the hotel. it was far enough away that it wasn't a direct strike on the hotel, but it was certainly close enough to shake nerves here. my security guy is telling me he thinks about 105-millimeter artillery device that was exploded, he could tell by the explosion and the amount of damage done, so that's a pretty significant explosion. again, past the first layer of security, not the second at the hotel. martha: dan, thank you. we're glad to hear from you, and we'll keep everybody posted on what we find out about what happened there. thank you so much, dan. take care. all right. and this fox news alert for you, a tornado watch has been issued for several states across new england this time. that includes major cities such as boston, philadelphia and new york, all under tornado watch right now. let's get to meet ross janice dean who is following this for us. >> reporter: as you mentioned, tornado watch meaning conditions are favorable for not only tornadoes, but large hail, damaging winds and, of course, we could see the potential for heavy rainfall. as this system moves eastward, doesn't look like we have a lot right now on the radar, but we're just starting to see these storms pop around the albany level. interior sections of the northeast and then our tornado watch in effect for philly, new york, up towards boston until 8 p.m. local time. looks like we have a severe thunderstorm warning north of the albany area and just west of new york. so these lines of thunderstorms could become very dangerous throughout the afternoon and evening hours. you can see we've got a lot of consecutive energy and a lot of warm temperatures as this cold front marchs eastward. 87 in new york, behind the front, that's where the cooler air is where it's 72 in buffalo. so you have got the cooler and the more warm, unstable air mass interacting with each other, and that's why we're seeing the potential for severe weather. the threat, again, extends from demand all the way down to -- new england all the way down to d.c. although you are not included in that tornado watch. a lot of folks live in this area. martha: we sure do. janice, thank you very much. we'll keep an eye on that. all right, aer terrifying hominvasion story and a mother's desperate call as she and her son hide in the closet. martha: this is, we're going to show you what the end of that nightmare scenario is, that's just moments away. and also this high-flying drama. the disagreement on a passenger jet that prompted f-16 to track this plane and bring it in. and this is the scene on capitol hill where we are waiting for congressman anthony weiner to start a series of interviews with major media outlets on the growing scandal. there's a lot of unanswered questions about whether or not he sent a college student a picture of his crotch. that's the nicest way we can put that, folks. and that he sent it via twitter. that's the big question; did he or didn't he? 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[ female annouer ] thinking mexican tonight? hamburger helper has five festive flavors like crunchy taco. hamburger helper. one pound. one pan. one happy family. >> we are in the middle of a developing news story on capitol hill, we're waiting for the possible new details of a scandal involving new york democratic congressman anthony weiner. we've got video of the congressman just returning to his office moments ago, here it is, he has scheduled these interviews. a lot of cameras and photographers outside the office there. he has scheduled interviews with several reporters, including our own bret baier, they're going to be one on one, he has, of course, responded to some of the questions surrounding a photo that was uploaded to his account, on the internet, and it was apparently sent to a college coed. he's going to talk about allegedly what happened based on the fact that he's called these interviews. shannon bream, live with more on this. so the congressman is responding, has not really responded to the direct question, shannon, about whether or not he sent that picture or whether it's him in the picture. we just don't know at this point. >> reporter: right martha. hopefully he'll be more forthcoming this afternoon and we'll learn a bit more. when he was asked about that lewd photo in question, if it was a picture of him, the congressman cannot answer with a yes or a no. there's another important question that he's left hanging as well, why the representative's office has yet to ask a law enforcement agency to investigate what could be criminal activity at his expense. last we checked with the u.s. capitol police, the department said the new york representative has not reached out, asking them to investigate what happened. i just got off the phone with a former department of justice prosecutor who said multiple federal crimes would have been committed if anyone hacked the congressman's account. he said twitter preserves the records of of each time an action is done wr-rbgs it originalnates, he said the fbi could have an action for those records in five minutes if we're sit -- if it was about a sitting member of congress. we got no response. we also wanted to take a look at how the media has been handling this potential scandal. you'll remember this, when then-republican congressman chris lee was busted sending photos of himself he met through kra*eugs list, that story broke february 9th, we had our brain room do research, look at the fallout within the first three days, there were 204 stories on lee and he abruptly resigned, in the first three days involving anthony weiner, there were 70 stories. of course, there were differences, that picture was clearly of chris lee and the weiner story broke over a holiday weekend as well but there are many asking if there is a double standard at play. we mentioned our own bret baier is going to sit down with the congressman later this afternoon to see if he can get the answers that no one has been able to get so far. martha. martha: all right. and bret is going to join us at the top of this hour, but one thing that underlies this, shannon, some are saying weiner's own past behavior has in a way caused him some of the trouble that he may be experiencing through all of this. how so? >> reporter: well, there are questions, because he has tens of thousands of twitter followers, more than 50,000 last time we checked and in return he follows less than 200 people. there have been some women to come forth to say hey, i was surprised he would be surprised in following me or sending me a message, there's a porn star, ginger lee, who said at one time she got a direct message from the representative and was very surprised to get communications from him, so there are a number of people who say listen, if this guy is completely innocent, even still, it's going to be tough for him to have to prove it with the circumstantial evidence out there that he may have been a little too in addition atious on twitter but that doesn't constitute any crime. we'll see how it plays out. martha: i know twitter is a networking account, you can exchange comments and pictures with people you know and don't know but to choose to follow someone is an active sort of move on that website, and he appears to have done that in this case. so we'll see what we find out about all this. shannon, thank you very much. bret baier as i mentioned is going to be in there, he's going to do one of those one on one interviews with congressman weiner from new york and we'll talk to bret when he comes out at the 2:00 hour to find out what happened and what he learned from the congressman so stick around for that, top of the 2:00, we'll get through and move that story forward. and in the meantime, there are new questions about how the obama administration is handling the economy that seems to be running into some new problems out there. we've got a new estimate out today from the payroll firm adp that says that the economy added just 38,000 private jobs in may. that is not a lot. just yesterday, we learned that the national housing price average had dropped to mid 2002 levels and we're seeing a double-dip recession in the housing market. that is the estimation of several prominent economists out there. and economic growth in the first three months of this year was at 1.8%. that is a very anemic growth rate for the u.s. economy. it's not a good picture. so yesterday, white house press secretary jar carney said this about the outlook: >> the housing market remains in a challenging situation. but it's also important to remember, more broadly, that we have begun effectively a recovery, an economic recovery, we've had -- we've seen quite solid job growth now for many months. we are working aggressively to help homeowners modify their loans. one of the things that will help the housing market would be is continued economic growth, continued job creation. and i cited earlier the positives -- positive numbers we've had recently in terms of growth and most importantly, private sector job creation. martha: joined me by democratic strategist christopher han, former aide to chuck schumer and chris plant of the chris plant show. gentlemen, good to see you both, welcome. chris, what's your reaction to what jay carney had to say in there? chris plant! sorry, what's going on here? chris plant. >> i mean, this is an old friend of mine, torry clarke, who used to be the pentagon spokesman, "lipstick on a pig". this is lipstick on a pig. we are pursuing polices that are not going to lead to growth, not going to lead to prosperity, all the indicators are negative indicators. we're trying to help obama save himself, before election day, he can turn it around but he needs to abandon these polices. as you said, martha, we're looking at a double-dip in the housing market, record foreclosures, unemployment going up, not down, 9 percent is not good and that's not even the real unemployment rate. we're looking at high food prices, high gasoline prices, these all have effects across the economy. martha: let's go to chris han. >> we're looking at european levels -- >> let me get in here! >> martha: the list goes on and on. >> let me get in here, chris. first of all let me respond by saying at least we added jobs. there was a time in this country, two years ago, where we were bleeding jobs. now i'm not saying that was enough. we obviously need to do much, much more to strengthen our economy. that said, the needle is moving in the right direction and most of the rise in unemployment recently has been because we're cutting public sector jobs to reduce the size of government in this country, around the country. martha: you know what, i would just point out to you, when economists looked at the numbers, the 38,000 private sector jobs today, a lot of them have now bumped down their estimate for friday. on friday morning, as we do at the first friday of every month, we're going to get the unemployment numbers for may, they're now estimating those lower than they thought. it's a bit of a stretch, perhaps, to say that the needle is moving in the right direction, and it raises the question, i think a lot of americans listen to this, and they say why can't we be real? why can't we come out, why can't we all get together and talk about this very rough situation? nobody thought we were going to be in this hole two years into this administration. >> martha, i agree. we should be having a realistic conversation about the economy and how to get things moving. unfortunately, what we're having is an ideological war in washington, where both sides have dug into their positions and nobody wants to compromise. republicans won't do anything when it comes to putting reasonable tax policy out there and democrats are having a hard time discussing entitlements. that said, we are seeing some private sector jobs created in this country. we've created 2 million over the last six months. we're going to continue to see job creation. martha: both sides are to blame here, because we need to get some constructive movement here, and we need to sort of let go of some of these ideas that have not worked. so let's take a look at the dow jones industrial average today, down 211 points right now. this is a live shot of the big board today, as all of this economic data sinks in. you know, this is what i love about the markets, because you know, they tend to reflect sort of their -- they're usually forward looking, history tells us, and they don't mess around, they don't try to talk their way out of anything. >> i don't think wall street was in on the joke of what happened last night on the floor of the house of representatives, as people thought. the moralo. >> talk about -- >> -- debt ceiling. >> look, everybody knows the debt ceiling is going to be raised. you guys just want to raise taxes. all you're talking about is raising taxes, raising the debt ceiling, spending more money, spending money, taxing, spending, spending, taxing. we're broke. we're not greece but on the road to being greece. as long as we pursue these economic polices we're on the road to bankruptcy and insolvency. i don't want to have a food fight but there are real matters at stake and real economic polices that we know don't work. >> -- martha: the two chriss, we could go on and we will another time pudz thank you gentlemen, good to talk to you both. >> thanks martha. martha: here's an interesting story, the government of florida has just signed a new law that requires welfare recipients to go drug tested in order to get their benefits and that as you might imagine has started a storm of controversy. is it a fair test? or is it an invasion of privacy? both sides coming up on that controversial story today. and how about this story in the brother of an accused killer, casey anthony, has taken the stand. in a gut wrenching moment of testimony. we will show you. why one of the top attorneys we know believes that casey anthony will walk. >> what do you recall about the smell of the car? >> just that it was very potent. very strong. >> was it an offensive smell? >> yes. >> did you approach the car? >> i had to walk by it to get to the door. but otherwise, not by choice. martha: all right. we've got new developments in the casey anthony murder trial. today, her brother, lee anthony, who you may remember just a couple weeks ago she accused of sexually assaulting her as a child, although not to the degree that her father did, is basically what she said. so her brother, lee, took the stand today, and he provided this testimony: >> when you asked your sister why won't you allow us to see kalee, what do you recall her saying? or what did you say, what did you tell detective edwards that she said? >> i told detective edwards that she said -- i'm paraphrasing, because maybe i'm a spiteful bik. >> -- bitch. >> at times that the mom was away from the woman, did you attempt to talk to her sister? >> yes i did. >> do you recall asking her, you know, what's going on? >> at one point, she said that caylee was missing, that someone had kidnapped her. martha: our next guest says no matter what the witness on the stand says, casey will likely walk. former sex crimes prosecutor joins me. wendy, we feel like we know so much about this case going in because we watched it unfold day by day, but you say she's going to go free. >> and it's not my typical story, is it? >> martha: no. >> i always almost aligned myself with the prosecution not because i think they're always right but because in most cases of this magnitude, they have the evidence. i call them like i see them and i tell you, what worries me the most, i was hoping the prosecutor had more evidence than that which we had heard about over the past several years, through the leaks and the pr spins and so forth. but i listened carefully to the opening statement, and i'm very distraught, because the best evidence they have that proves this woman killed her child is some expert is going to testify that duct tape was put on the child's mouth before she died, in other words, they'll theorize she suffered as a result of suffocation from duct tape. there's no when, where, who killed her. and it is great speculation at this point to talk about casey being responsible. you can hate her all day long. she's one of the worst mothers on the planet, she bee haves badly, she lied like crazy. martha: talk about -- in your story, you really broke down the timeline here, and that's what they need to do in this case, right? they need to be very specific, where were you, where was your car, and just provide a way for her not to be able to wriggle out if indeed she's guilty. >> yeah, and thank you, because i do think that one of the problems with the public's awareness of this case is that we're not even asking the right questions. we're focused on the right thing, instead of did it smell like death in the car, how about where was the car when the child's body ended up dead in the trunk? as far as we know, casey didn't have custody of that car for three days during the time she probably died, june 17-21st, 22nd, when casey got the car back, she had been borrowing someone's jeep. when casey got the car back, she told a friend, looks like something died in my car. if she killed her child and put it in the thunk -- trunk, put the body in the trunk, would she be texting her friends she smelled like a dead body in her own car? no. so the question is, who had the car? who had the child during those days? it is clear to me that casey did not. but she is covering for whoever d that's my read on this case. and the prosecution -- >> martha: well, i have to ask you, because you know, she has suggested that her father was complicit in a coverup. do you give that theory any credence? >> can you give me a few minutes to come back from my laughter on that? no. come on! that was the most -- that was a saturday night live skit, that whole opening about the pool and drowning, that will never come out as real evidence. that was a show to distract us, to make us dislike george, because we so dislike casey. martha: but -- >> if we dislike and think he's a rapist, maybe he's a bad man, we get reasonable doubt because there's dysfunction and evil. martha: exactly. that's clearly what they're trying to do is plant seeds of reasonable doubt that they can, because we all remember what happened with o.j. and it's possible. we may see that play out here again. >> right. martha: wendy, thank you very much. this is a live shot by the way that you're watching of that trial. we will stay on top of any developments there. thanks to wendy murphy. all right. well in moments, we have got the story behind one of the most dramatic 911 calls that we've heard in a long time. trace gallagher is next on the desperate call for help after an intruder breaks in. >> she's in the house. >> and you're on the second level? >> yeah. >> did you lock the door? >> yes, but he's going to come in right now. he's coming in. he's going to come through right now. he's coming in. get under there. get under there. martha: all right. we can tell you there is breaking news in the anthony weiner case, the democratic congressman from new york, and we will share it with you moments from now. bret baier is going to be here at the top of the 2:00 hour, and we will tell you exactly what we know so far about what has now been revealed about the pictures that were sent to a young woman, a young coed, that is coming up, stay with us for that, breaking news in that case. the meantime, this story. a nightmare come true, a mother and son, hiding in the closet as an intruder gets into their home, and now we've got our hands on the chilling 911 call for help. trace gallagher is live in our west coast newsroom. hey trace. >> reporter: martha, just happened outside of denver, a woman sees a suspicious man across the street staring at her, she goes inside the how, the man comes over to the house and starts kicking on the door, she grabs her young son, runs upstairs into her bedroom, lockings the door and goes into the closet and hides, she calls 911. listen to the conversation and read along as it goes: >> please! i'm coming. >> we've dispatched officers i'm just keeping you on the phone, okay? okay? >> he's in the house. >> and you're on the second level? >> yeah. >> can you lock the door? >> yeah. he's going to come through right now. he's coming in. get under there. get under there. >> he's coming in. he's coming in. he's in my room. >> reporter: so she knows the man is now in the house, right? she's stalling, she hopes the police are on their way, so she starts negotiating with the intruder. watch and listen again: >> what do you want? what do you want? >> you know what i want. >> no, i don't. u i'll give it to you. >> unlock the door. >> tell me what you want. >> do you want money? >> i can hear him. >> yes. >> okay, i'll give you money. how much do you want? >> right after that, the cops barged in, and the intruder put up a small struggle but they arrested 23-year-old benjamin staffle, he was charged with a slew of different counts. at the time he appeared to be on drugs. the mother and her son as you might imagine were fine through all of this but what an ordeal. martha: thank goodness and what a good job that dispatcher did, trace, as well. thank you very much. scary story. we want to let you know we have breaking news developing right now in the ab no -- anthony weiner story, the congressman from new york has been behind cleared doors in his office giving one on one interviews to different network correspondents, bret baier is going to be with him in a little while, he will join me at the 2:00 hour to talk about what we already know has been revealed, that, right after this. stay with us. breaking news in this case. martha: all right, a fox news alert. anthony weiner, the congressman from new york who has been much in the spotlight in recent days, he has now agreed to face the music in this way. he is set to sit down for a series of one on one interviews with the immediate kwrarbgs including fox news, that's how we start this brand new hour of "america live", i'm martha maccallum in for megyn khely. this high profile congressman, trying to bury a burjonning scandal at this point that involves growing questions about a lewd photograph that was sent from his twitter account to a 21-year-old college student. it shows a man in his underwear from the waist down, you have probably seen the picture, you know, the congressman has said he didn't send that picture. that is the first bit of information that has come out of these interviews. but when asked if the picture was him, the congressman said, quote, i cannot say that with certitude. bret baier joins me from "special report", he'll be going into the office and interviewing anthony weiner moments from now. bret, that's what we've got so far. >> you're right, martha, that's what we have so far. he said in this previous interview with msnbc that he can't say with certitude whether it's him or not. now, when there are a lot of followup questions that i hope have been asked, but i guarantee you will be asked when i sit down with him at 3:45 this afternoon, and that is if you can't say with certitude that it's you, that's a little strange. he's saying the picture could be manipulated. if you take a picture of your groin and underwear, wouldn't you remember it? martha: you would think. >> these are questions, martha, that no one wants to ask. this is so -- it's not a great interview back and forth, you know, the whole subject matter, however, it is representative weiner's response at this press briefing was so vague and combative that has brought on a lot of this scrutiny and obviously has brought on a lot of the calls by his office to a number of different outlets to sit down for these one on one interviews. to there are a series of questions that obviously have to be asked. martha: and we know you will do that when you sit down with him in a little while. i'm just curious about how all this came about in terms of his strategy. because it became very clear yesterday, he had a very tense news conference yesterday, during which he got snappy with people, he said you know, i'll answer the questions, you ask the questions, and tried to sort of engineer this thing in a way that would come out favorably for him and it appears today he and his folks have decided he needs to go a step further and he needs to have further discussions because the way these things tend to work, it's that ultimately the truth comes out. >> sure. and these are not tough questions for him to be dodging, you know, is it you. martha: right. >> that was a pretty plain question at that press briefing. and it was obvious after three or four times of him not answering it that there was a problem here. and you know, the other side of it is the investigation side. you know, i just heard from he told -- i think it was luke russert on msnbc that they have some independent firm that is looking into all of these specifics. listen, if this is a sitting congressman of the united states congress, he could easily pick up the phone and get an investigation from the u.s. capitol police or more importantly the fbi, because if, in fact, his twitter account had been hacked, multiple federal crimes could be talked about here as far as that hacking. martha: bret, one last point, one of the significant things here is he's saying i did not send it, and that becomes really the center of this, too, because the question, the sort of morality question is did he send it to this 21-year-old girl. he's saying it could be me, but i didn't send that picture. so you know, that's the other sort of murky area in all of this. and i know you're going to get back to us later. >> we'll try our best. martha: yes. >> i can't guarantee you how this interview is going to go, but we'll try. martha: all right. well, we know you will. but we thank you very much for being with us today and we'll be listening to hear what happens when you come out of there. thank you bret. >> you got it. martha: if this all sounds familiar, you may remember new york republican chris lee who resigned a few short months ago after only two years in congress, lee who is married and has a young child admitted he sent this bizarre photo of himself sort of flexing his muscles in a mirror in what looks like a hotel room, i believe it was, and then he sent this picture to a woman that he met on kra*eugs list. gossip website gawker was the one who posted the picture, along with e-mail exchanges between lee and this unidentified woman. apparently she posted a classified ad looking for male companionship and lee, in a weak moment for him, i would venture to guess, replied, and he claimed that he was a 39-year-old divorced lobbyist. easy enough for a woman to figure out who a u.s. sitting congressman is, you would think. he later apologized to his family, to his staff and to the people of the new york, then we went on to have that special election in new york last week, you remember, that's why that seat was vacant in the first place. so congressman weiner, when asked of -- went after reporters angrily when he challenged -- when they challenged him whether it was him if that that picture. we will show thaw unedited start to finish so you it make your own assessment about what is going on between congressman weiner and the reporters in yesterday's exchange. that's going to be coming out in five minutes. we'll show that to you then. all right. in the meantime, back to this. a big meeting on the nation's debt crisis, just wrapped up a little while ago at the white house. house republicans sat down with president obama, gop leaders pressed the president, we're told, for a detailed plan on how to start to get a handle on our soaring debt. they did not yet come up with such a plan, the white house rejected raising the $14 trillion debt ceiling yesterday, which republicans say will not happen until they see major commensurate spending cuts. >> we're going to raise the debt ceiling, the limiting cuts should exceed the increase in the debt limit. otherwise, it will serve to cost us jobs in our country. martha: let's bring in texas congressman kevin brady, he was at that white house meeting, he is a member of the house ways and means committee, and ewelcome you here, sir, good to have you. >> thank you martha. martha: what was the president's response to that idea when it was presented to him that any increase in the debt ceiling should have -- we should see at least that much, $2.4 trillion, in cuts? what did he say? >> well, he moved past that pretty quickly. he started off with a statement you and wi probably agree with, which is the debt is unsustainable, and we have to tackle it in a short, medium and long term. we're all with him at that point, but he quickly got stuck on tax increases in defense cuts, and in fact, he lamented how low our taxes are in america, and somehow inferred that maybe that was part of the problem for the economy in 2000, which i always like to point out, our unemployment rate averaged 5 1/2% for that decade. but he quickly moved to tax increases. we in our leadership, in our membership, had one question: where is your plan? where is your plan for jobs? or your plans for the debt? what is your plan for medicare? because we don't see any of it. and so that's how much of the discussion was focused. martha: it sounds to me the two sides were pretty entrenched. how would you characterize it, because the democrats and the president generally believe that raising revenues, which means raising taxes, is a way to do this, republicans want to cut tax and cut spending. was there any case, it was -- was it tense in regard to that or any indication there might be wiggle room. >> actually, it was a very respectful meeting on all sides. both the president in his remarks and republicans questioned him about energy policy, about all the new regulations, about reigning in the epa, and about the medicare, what is -- isn't it time to get off the demagoguery and get on to real solutions. martha: with regard to that. >> -- >> middle ground. >> sorry to interrupt you. what was it like between paul ryan and the president because paul ryan made it clear he thinks the administration has misreceipted his representation of medicare. >> he asked ryan to tone down with the demagoguery and come up with a resolution. he says he shares his concern but he hasn't seen a plan and i'm i'm not sure we should hold our breath. martha: thank you very much. >> thank you martha. it was one of america's toughest cities plagued by drugs and crime but new a. new jersey may be finally making a difference. why is the justice department now investigating them? congressman anthony weiner went after reporters yesterday when they challenged him about this scandal. we're going to show you the back and forth that happened, unedited, from start to finish, three minutes from now. martha: back now to the controversy over whether congressman anthony weiner sent a picture of his crotch to a female college student in california. that's what we're talking about. the big government website reported this photo last saturday, the congressman immediately claimed his account had been hacked. since then he's hired a lawyer but has repeatedly refused to say whether the picture is indeed of him, he also won't say if he took the picture. he is meeting with different media outlets now. this was the scene when he was confronted by reporters outside his capitol hill office yesterday. this is the complete unedit ed start to finish of that. take a look: >> you say that you were hacked? which is essentially a crime. so why haven't you asked the capitol police for anyone to investigate? >> look, this was a prank that i've been talking about for a couple of days. i'm not going to allow it to decide what i talk about for the next week or the next two-weeks. and so i'm not going to be giving anything more about that today. i think i've been pretty responsive. >> but with respect to -- you're here, which we appreciate, but you're not answering the question. can you just say why you haven't asked law enforcement to investigate what you are alleging -- >> you know, dana, if i was giving a speech to 45,000 people, and someone in the back of the room threw a pie or yelled out an insult, would i stand the -- spend the next two hours responding to that? no. i would get back -- wi get back -- >> this is not that situation. >> i would get back -- you want to do the brief something do you want to do the briefing, sir? >> from your twitter account, a lewd photograph was sent to a college student. >> sir, sir -- >> answer the question, was it from you or not? >> ser. permit me -- do you guys want me to finish my answer? >> yes, to this question. did you send it or not? >> if i were giving a speech to 45,000 people, and someone in the back threw a pie or yelled out an insult, i would not spend the next two hours of my speech responding to that pie or that insult. i would return to the things that i want to talk about, to the audience that i want to talk to. >> all you have to do is say no. >> that's what i intend to do. >> can you say no to the question? >> let me ask you this question: the woman who allegedly got this tweet or was directed to, the 21-year-old college student, she released a statement to the new york daily news yesterday saying that you follow her on twitter. is that true? did you follow her on twitter? if so, how did you find her, what was the reason? >> you know, i have i think said this a couple of ways and i'll say it again. i am not going to permit myself to be distracted by this issue any longer. >> you are free -- >> you are free -- you're very good at not -- >> why don't you let me do the answers and you do the questions? >> as soon as you answer the question asked you, sir, we will. >> i'm with you. i'm with you. >> following up on -- you've followed up with a lot of people on twitter. is there any reason there are so many ladies you're following? >> by the way, in related news, i have in the -- -- [inaudible] >> did you -- >> congressman, you understand that -- what's going on here that frustrates us. we patient you coming out here and talkingtous, you're smiling, you're cooperating, and that -- you're not answering the question. can you answer the basic question? >> this is now day three. you have statements in my -- that my office has put out. >> but they don't answer the question. >> you have statements my office has put out and there are going to be people that -- look this, is the tack teurbg the guy in the back of the room throwing the pie or yelling out the insult wants that to be the conversation. >> but you -- >> let me -- >> you would have -- it's a criminal -- >> dain kwrarbgs let me -- i'm going to have to ask that we follow rules and one be that you let me answer the question. is that reasonable? >> i'd love to get an answer. >> that would be reasonable. you do the question, i do the answer, and then he interrupts me is the new rule of the game? let me -- >> congressman -- >> let me just do this. the objective of the person who is doing the mischief is to try to distract me from what i'm doing, but for the last couple of days, that has happened. i made a decision, i'm not going to let it happen today, i'm not going to let it happen tomorrow. you're doing your understand, i -- job, i understand it, go ahead and do it but you're going to have to do it without me, and today i want to talk about debt limit. this debt limit vote tonight is very important. >> but -- >> let me make a point. >> why did you not have an investigation? is it because you don't want them to find out -- >> let me make a point about the debt limit. we are tonight at 6:30, 6:45, going to be casting a vote on something that has monumental importance to our economy, whether or not we have a stuff vote on something as important as the debt limit. i want to focus what i talk about on that. i want to focus what i'm working on, on that. i want to focus on that, because frankly, i think my constituents want me to and i think that frankly the country would want me to. that's what i'm going to do. you don't have to. you can continue doing whatever you want to do but i am not going to allow this thing to dominate what i talk about. >> we're covering that story. you understand that in the statements that you put out, you said that you were hacked. and so we just -- it's a logical question that we really wish that you would answer. >> i have -- >> you've got to refer to my statement. you've got to refer to my statement. >> it still doesn't answer the question. if it did we would be happy to. >> all i can tell you, i put out statements the last couple of things responding to everyone saying this is the last question we're going to ask, is it hacked, and it's clear by your presence, some have been successful about making a conversation that something i simply choose not to participate anymore. you can free free to cover t. you can be here, and you can -- >> -- you can feel free to stay here and ask me again but we have a situation where across the way is a supreme court that the -- that justice clarence thomas , his household received over $800,000 of renunration from people that are trying to overturn the health care law, trying to stop it and he is refusing to recuse himself. that is pretty important. that's an important thing i'm going to devote my energies to. >> and in 24 -- we just want to get the answer to the question. >> [inaudible] >> what are you directing your attorneys to do? ask for an investigation? >> we aren't -- i think there's a statement speech for that that says they're going to advise us on an appropriate next step. >> [inudible] >> i refer you back to the statement, read it in its entirety. i appreciate -- are there any other questions? >> why are you following somebody on twitter? >> that is another question. look, there are people who want to try to distract from the work that i have to do. there are. there are going to be people who are going to want to have this deo debate and to some degree the people engaging are zealous to do it but i don't want to. i choose to talk about the things i care about, and i know this is how the game is played, some people decide they want to talk about this thing for days and days. i choose not to. that's my prerogative, i'm sorry. >> can i throw this out there, if this is the nonstory you say this is -- >> i characterized it as a distraction. i leave it to you. >> if it's a distraction, you're a sophisticated guy, why not just answer the questions? >> i've been doing that for several days. now i choose -- >> but you didn't answer it. >> now i choose -- there are people that apparently haven't read the statements. i zoom you have. all i can tell you, this is the -- this is akin to someone deciding on day two or day four they want to continue talking about something i consider a distraction, and i've made a decision on how i'm going to deal with it and the decision i've made, i'm not going to permit it to distract me, to permit it for three, four, five, six more days. if that's not satisfactory to you, i apologize. i think what people really want to talk about are the debt limit tonight, things like the oppressive disparity between the very wello do and people that don't have as much or the fact that it's more and more difficult being the middle class in this country. that's what i'm here to work on. thank you guys. >> inaudible question] martha: well, all right. that was that. and you saw that really tense back and forth today, and we would just point out that at this moment, he has not been able to put the situation behind him, because his own behalf, he is doing sit down, one on one interviews at this moment as we speak with various different media news outlets. bret baier will s down with him about an hour from now, a little more than an hour from now and he will join us on fox news and talk about what he got from anthony weiner in terms of any kind of explanation of all of this. so we ask you to tune in for that as well. fox news.com has been putting together all of the background on this story. you can find all of that material at foxnews.com foxnews.com/politics. the stories, the video clips, the breaking news, anything that you could want, one click away on that story which he would very much like to go away but as of today, he has asked to speak about it one more tile and what we know so far, he says he did not send the picture, but he cannot unequivocally say that the picture is not of him. that's where that is right now. martha: all right, how about this question for you? drug testing, welfare applicants. now the law of the land in one state, and it is spark ago huge controversy there. some even charging that that is unconstitutional. we're going to talk about that. and big city police departments, under investigation. why the obama administration is cracking down. we're going to go in depth on that. and we saw it all over the midwest. the horrific tornadoes, stripping neighborhoods bare. but now one company has a way to keep you safe inside your home. stick around for that. we'll be right back with more on "america live". martha: from hurricanes to another weather disaster, tornadoes, and some twister survivors in joplin, missouri say they were saved by their shelters that were bunkers made from kevlar, a material that is bullet proof when you look at what these people went through. julie banderas has the story live from the new york newsroom. >> reporter: really incredible stuff, diana swinson came within minutes of becoming a 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than 130 people. those who sell the shelter say they are a life saver. >> dupont engineers have made into a wall and ceiling panel that can stop the dangerous forces of tornadoes. this product can go inside of your home. we have to be on concrete, we can become a room of your home. and their rated for the largest tornadoes, such as the one that went through here. >> reporter: the prices for the dupont storm rooms with kevlar set by local distributorses from 5750, over $5000 for a 4x4-foot shelter and $15,000 for a 12x12 shelter. last year through federal grant programs, the good news here, shelters made by other manufacturers were built for less than $5000. every penny well worth it. martha: it appears it is. julie, thank you very much. >> sure. martha: newark, new jersey is a decide that is plagued by drugs and violent crime. but recently, plus and a tough talking mayor seem to be making a difference in that city. so now here's this question: why is the obama administration investigating the police in newark? >> plus, a robber tries to rob a bank in broad daylight. little did he know he was messing with the wrong customer! >> every time i get deployed, my children -- i always tell my children i'm going to quite the bad guys, so when i walked back into the bank my oldest boy said did you get the bad man, i said i got the bad man! everyone applauded. martha: what a story this is, fighter jets were scrambled, fuel was wasted, an emergency landing, and thousands of taxpayer dollars spent, all because of a fistfight aboard a united airlines flight from dulles to ghana. trace gallagher is live in our west coast newsroom with more. hey trace. >> reporter: martha, the faa briefed us on this and said before 9/11 this might have turned out to be nothing but post 9/11 the pilot had little choice. think about it, a 767 flying over d.c., some of the most coveted terrorist targets in the world, the white house, the pentagon, you're carrying 57,000 tons of fuel. what happened is right after takeoff, a passenger leaned his seat back, right? well, his seat back. the guy behind him objected so the guy in the back smacks the guy in the front, a fight breaks out, the flight attendant conveniences and another passenger intervenes, the pilot radios there's a disturbance, and the military scrambles, 2f-16 fighter jets, the 767 was ordered to fly around for 30 minutes to dump fuel and to burn fuel off because it was too heavy, it couldn't land, its tires would have popped, and so the pilot then talks to the tower. listen to this: >> 990 heavy, is the passenger secured? >> negative, the passenger is not secured at this time, the passenger has settled down, though, but an assault has taken place. but at this time, he is not secured. >> reporter: >> 990 heavy, roger >> reporter: the passenger wasn't secured, the flight then turned around and finally landed, dulles police met the plane, right, at the gate, and the guy wasn't even arrested. they decided not to file charges against this guy at all. the f16s by the way are 50,000 bucks an hour to fly. and the gats on those things? the tons of fuel they lost? it was expensive. the reason they did this, by the way, martha, is because of this, right? 31 inches. that's what you get, between your seat and the next one. martha: tell me about it! air rage! who can blame them! all right, trace, thank you very much. >> reporter: you're welcome. martha: if you need a doctor it may soon be hard to find one, a new study revealing a future shortage of primary care physicians exist, and that may mean less late night, fewer late night calls to the family doctor and more visits to the emergency room. aneithera -- anita vogel is live on this. >> reporter: martha, consider that specialty doctors make 2-3 times the salary of a primary care physician, a primary care physician makes an average of a little more than $150,000 a year. so that's one of the reasons low pay that many students are shying away from going into family medicine. low pay and enormous medical school debt, to the tune of 2-$300,000 a year, in some cases. long hours, including nights, overnights, weekends, less time with taeurbts -- patients and more tile spent in trenches behind a desk. it sounds anything but glamorous to future doctors. >> i think that the primary care work load is heavy. it's not just taking care of the patients. it's taking care of a myriad of things the patients need between refills or answering e-mails or talking with family members, coordinating care in the hospital, coordinating care with specialists. >> recent studies show just 2 percent of medical students nationwide are entering primary care. right now there's talk about how to fix the broken system, things like forgiveness of loans, better reimbursement plan, boosting pay, even free medical school. that's now part of the national debate. all of these th-gs -- these things say young doctors would make the profession were desirable. >> it may help to, if not be the tipping point, at least, you know, provide that peace of mind that by going into primary care, that there isn't that worry that when i come out of it, will i still be okay, versus if i pick something else. >> reporter: martha, consider under the new health care law, even more patients will be insured, those patients will be needing primary care physicians. not enough students are going into family medicine, then those patients are going to end up in emergency rooms across the country. back to you. martha: that's one of the things we all sought to avoid in this reform. anita, thank you very much, anita vogel in l.a. some of america's largest -- largest and toughest police departments are now facing a federal probe by the justice department. cops in major cities like denver, new orleans, seattle, and newark, new jersey suspected of harassing minorities, making false arrests, and using excessive force. they soon could find themselves fighting uncle sam in court over these issues. tamra holder is criminal defense attorney and fox news contributor and warn kohn me of the american civil rights coalition, thank you very much to both of you for being here. >> sure. martha: obviously, the justice department under president obama, taking a much more aggressive stance on this than the bush administration did, reopening, putting in civil rights investigators in these cities to try to get into these cases. ward, what's your response to this? >> i think it's a very bad idea, martha. we have no epidemic of police brutality in america, and for the administration to do this is going to erode the confidence that law enforcement is supposed to have with its citizens. and you know, i think that just about every major city in america has a police citizen review board to look at these activities of police, of law enforcement, and they need to be accountable to local officials, not to the justice department. martha: that's an interesting point. tamra, are these things better handled on that local level? >> well, the problem is, martha, that the local levels are not dealing with the problem efficiently. we have in chicago someone by the name of john birch who is a lieutenant with the chicago police department who tortured people into confession, and what happens is you have a lawsuit that the taxpayers have to pay now, you have the prison industry that people have to pay, so there is a major long term and very serious effect that this has on all taxpayers. there is nothing wrong with the administration sending a signal to all police departments within this country and saying if you do not comply with the laws and you torture and abuse people, you will be punished criminally. there is nothing wrong with that. martha: obviously, nobody thinks that those situations should go unchecked, and that they shouldn't be pursued when they exist, but it raidses a question about the relationship between the administration and the department of justice, and the large majority of law abiding officers who are fighting on the streets of our major cities against crime and who are doing it every day at the risk of their own lives. so ward, talk to me about how -- because possibly erode -- could possibly erode the confidence and the way these law enforcement officers are treated and the way that they feel about how they're being looked at. >> martha, local law enforcement is already a little bit suspicious of this administration, because of the cambridge police department incident last year, i believe it was, where the president accused the police officers of acting stupidly, which triggered their sentiment, so local law enforcement is already suspicious they are on the firing squad from this administration. and they need all the -- >> martha: that can't -- >> that can'tor farther from the truth. you have -- >> pardon me? >> there was a report that came out that said within nine months in 2010, between january and september, the cost of corruption costs to over -- were over $200 million, this included 5000 officers. granted, most people are law abiding, most officers are law abiding, however, there needs to be a standard that is set, and there -- >> there is a standard. >> and rules applied. no, there isn't. >> there is a standard and our standard is home rule. we have home rule in this country. >> what's home rule? >> ms. holder, home rule is where the local government controls their own fate, not the federal government swooping in to oversee every major police department in this country. >> but when the police departments are regulating themselves and saying that they don't find misconduct and they are not taking peoples' complaints seriously, it is the job of the federal government to step in and find out what the problems really are. it's not just one case here or there. these are major problems that need to be investigated by the department of justice if people are breaking civil rights rules and laws. martha: you know, you look at -- >> it's going to trigger -- >> martha: look at newark, new jersey, mayor corey booker who's done remarkable things to try to turn around the city of newark and they've been going through this very difficult situation with pensions, they had to lay off a lot of law forcement officers in newark, and tamra, the basic idea here is you don't want to sort of undercut the confidence and the respect that we have for what these people do every day. and if they feel like, you know, the long arm of the law from washington, d.c. is watching over what they're doing in all of these major cities in america, it may undercut their ability to do their jobs to some extent. >> but i don't think that they're looking at this from a microscope. they're looking at this as an epidemic as a whole, the aclu filed a report that there were 400 complaints within newark alone. so it's looking at the larger prorbg not saying i'm going to look at, you know, police officer john doe's conduct for an arioo an arrest on the south side of chicago. it's applying the statistics and saying where is the problem? because in the end, martha, the city is paying large settlements to people or small ones that are adding up. i think that the taxpayers have a right to know as well where their money is going with these issues. martha: tamra holder, ward connelly, thank you very much, interesting debate, thanks to you both. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. martha: brand new sales numbers revealing lean times in the u.s. auto market, major american car makers general motors and ford reporting sales slightly lower last month compared to last year. analysts say that consumers sat on their hands as rebates and financing dried up. we all remember the programs put in place to kind of help out the auto industry. it may be even worse, we're hearing, for the japanese manufacturers, after a devastating tsunami forced companies like toyota to shut down factories. some analysts expect their sales to fall as much as 30 percent last month, compared to a year ago. tough times in the auto industry, to be sure. and you've heard of taking a drug test before starting a new skwraurbgs right? many of us, including yours truly, had to do that when you started a job, but now in florida, there's a new law that requires a drug test if you want welfare benefits. so is that law an invasion of privacy? or is it preventing taxpayer subsidyies drug use? fair and balanced debate on a very hot topic, coming up, three minutes away. martha: all right. here's a shot of the hallway outside of congressman weiner's office, this was moments ago. there's bret baier, we just spoke to him a while ago, he's heading in for his interview with congressman weiner. as soon as bret comes out of there, we'll get you what he says. there's the continuing live shot out of there. we understand there's going to be vote called fairly soon, there will be three bells running, hopefully that will not happen in the interview but he has 20 minutes after the bell is running to get down there and vote, so we're watching that closely and will bring you that as soon as we get it. how about this story for you this afternoon? a would-be bank robber in florida thought he picked a pretty easy mark but what he didn't know is he was crossing a u.s. soldier with multiple tours in iraq under his belt, when the burglar waved a gun at this soldier's kid, it was all over. christopher wright with wbet in tampa has this story: >> reporter: a bagful of money and a gun and a bank parking lot leads you to an obvious conclusion of what happened here. but the story behind the story is what makes this not just your average bank robbery. >> i've been through five deployments, i fought a militia, everything you can think of, so weapons getting pointed at me really don't bother me anymore. >> reporter: sarasota's deputies are praising this man for helping with the bank robbery. wright was in banc of america with his two kids when he realized someone was holding it up. >> he waved the gun at one of my children, so after he walked out of the bank, i folded him out here. >> >> reporter: remember, peoples is a military man, deployed not once, not twice, but five times. in the parking lot, peoples jumped into his white van and cornered the suspected bank robber, trying to get away from his green honda. a woman who didn't want to be identified stumbled upon the confrontation. >> he's got a bank bag, and a gun, and he's pointing it at the gentleman in the white van. >> that's about as far as matthew rogers got. >> i took the weapon away from him and put him on the ground, and the rest was history. >> reporter: deputies arrested rogers, who was 34. he has a long criminal history, including arrests for burglary and auto theft. and now a bank robbery, on the wrong day, in front of the wrong customer. >> every time i get deployed my children, i always tell my children i'm going to fight the bad men, so i walked back into the bank, my oldest boy said did you get the bad man, i said i got the bad man and everyone applauded. martha: good story! thanks to christian right for that. you have heard of taking a drug test, of course, before starting a new job, but now in florida, a new law requires a drug test if you want to receive welfare. is that fair? we're going to debate that, next, on "america live". martha: well, there's a new law in florida that is sparking a fierce debate over what some call the right to privacy. governor rick scott signed into law a new bill that would require anybody who applies for welfare to take a drug test first. the governor says that the law will ensure that taxpayer money is not used for drugs and also he says to discourage people from doing drugs is a good thing, so critics are arguing this is an invasion of privacy, and some even saying that it is downright unconstitutional. fair and balanced debate, here we go, quinn brown of florida and sandy rios, vice president of family pac, fox news contributor. welcome to both of you. congresswoman, let me start with you. do you think that this is an invasion of privacy? >> oh, it's clearly unconstitutional, and the governor and the lawyers knew it when they did it. i mean, the governor ran that he was going to increase jobs. he's cut jobs in every single category. we're cutting 500 positions from the agency that administered the program. i mean, this is terrible. we are costing taxpayers money in every single category, and this is a waste of taxpayer funds. clearly we're going to court with this and clearly, you're going to lose. martha: sandy? >> seems to me like you're wasting taxpayer funds if that money is going to pie for peoples' drugs. it's voluntary, you don't have to sign up. by the way, drugs are illegal. so if you're not doing them, you don't have anything to worry about. i think the thing that people need to do is to be encouraged to be responsible. if you take federal dollars to help your family and that's why we have the program is to help people in need, you have a responsibility, and if you're on drugs, you don't qualify. >> let's be clear. there is no state in the whole union that test as -- tests a rerippent. >> congresswoman brown, let me ask you this: most of us, when you get a new job, you have to go through drug testing, right? i don't consider that unconstitutional. do you? >> i do not consider it unconstitutional, but the court has ruled that random testing is unconstitutional. if you look at -- >> martha: wait a minute. wait a minute. let me just ask her that again. if you get a new job and they require you to have drug testing, do you think -- and that's required in many, many jobs. why is that any different? why is it any different? >> let's be clear. in certain jobs, it's required, if you're an airline pilot, certain jobs. and -- >> martha: lots of jobs in corporate america. two different companies that i worked for both required it. >> listen, the -- >> in the government, it's required, too. >> florida taxpayers money, when you indicated -- >> you are costing us taxpayer money when you pay for peoples' drugs, mrs. brown, and i want to tell you, even if the -- >> martha: hold on. hold on. >> excuse me? >> martha: congresswoman brown and quickly, to sandy quickly. go ahead. >> it's clear that there is no particular area, for example, the same people that receive assistance are inclined to use drugs. so it's -- >> so what's the problem? there's no problem. >> it's not costing taxpayer dollars. the people that receive the test have to pay for the test and if they get approved the government pays for the test. >> you are laying -- >> we are in a crisis. the government ran on that -- the governor ran on he was going to create jobs, in every single category he's -- he's doing the opposite. martha: congresswoman brown, let me ask you this. obviously we all can agree that drugs are illegal, right? >> and the other thing is, you have a program that you personally benefit from because your company is doing the testing. give me a break. martha: sandy, what about that? >> he does not own stock in that company anymore. >> that is -- that is not the way -- >> his company is not going to be making any -- >> martha: okay. okay. let's get back to the point. >> the point is that tax dollars should not pay for peoples' drug habits. i support that. >> do you support that? >> i don't support it, either, but is it a good idea for tax dollars to -- >> martha: ladies, i got to go. i thank you both for being here. very controversial. we'll see how this goes. quick breaking and we'll be back with more right here on "america live". stay with us.

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