Transcripts For FBC The Intelligence Report With Trish Regan 20170306

27th, the date of the original order. Also for the next 120 days, we will not be accepting refugees from any countries. You know, this is very important because we have also just learned that the fbi is investigating more than 300 refugees who are already here in this country for possible ties to terrorism. Meanwhile, attorney general Jeff Sessions says hes confident the new order is, indeed, lawful. Watch. The department of justice believes that this executive order, just as the First Executive order, is a lawful and proper exercise of president ial authority. The executive is in em oured under empowered under the constitution and by congress to make National Security judgments and to enforce our immigration policies in order to safeguard the american public. Trish joining me right now with his thoughts, jay jordan sekulow. Will this revised order face any legal hurdles specifically from the the ninth sir or cut . I think so, and heres why. The aclu has already sent out emails to their membership, and we monitor that closely, saying that they are going to fight this ban in court, that they will bring this, quoteunquote, ban i think its a pause because were talking about 90 and 120 days, but, yes, were going to see some legal action. Its more difficult for a state Like Washington to to come up with standing here because its very clear on visa holders, on lawful permanent residents, on people who have already got a visa and already traveled to the u. S. , people who are students, and it goes through a whole list of people who are waiverred, they can apply for waivers from the temporary pause as well. And were talking about six countries plus refugees. Refugees wasnt really, didnt come up much in the legal arguments yet that weve seen, but i expect, absolutely, were ready for a legal challenge here. Trish you mentioned the aclu, im going to get to Chuck Schumer and what he has to say ant this because i do want to talk about the political angle, but lets get back to sort of the legal aspect in terms of whether or not its going to stand up. The criticism on the first round was that he was rather hasty, his team rushed it out, and while the intentions may have been good, they didnt dot all the is and cross all the ts. This time is it different . It is different. I mean, i said on your broadcast, trish, after this started going through the Court Systems it would be better to issue a new executive order that was cleaner, and its because the courts seized on a couple of areas that this new executive order clears up. Trish specifically where . Did not take for granted the white House Counsel stating this didnt apply to lawful permanent residents and visa holders. Though they did issue that later, the white house, they said that wasnt enough. It is in the order now, and i think thats right. It also doesnt get into the ban on Syrian Refugees indefinitely. Nothing in this order says you have to let everybody in after 120 days who are refugees, but it doesnt make these statements that you dont need the as well as just saying specifically that were going to look for christians. Its great to look for people who are religiously persecuted, we do a lot of that work at the aclj. You can do that administratively, you dont need to out that in the executive order. And the effective date, no one can say theyre confused on when this goes into effect. Trish thats very true, and that was one thing that was confusing initially. Let me share with you Chuck Schumers statement, you mentioned the aclu sending out an email. He says this is, quote, a watereddown ban is still a ban. This makes us less safe, not more. It is meanspirited and unamerican. I fully expect this executive order to have the same uphill climb in the court that is the previous version had. Thats what i take issue with, meanspirited and unamerican. Youre talking about six countries that have been known to be hotbeds for terrorist activity. Shouldnt our goal be to keep americans safe . Wouldnt it be meanspirited to invite people to this country, that would infrequent harm . This is not a muslim ban. Second, were already seen how the First Executive order may not have survived in court, and it was ultimately rescinded here, but it encouraged iraq to work closer with us. The government of iraq said we dont want to be on this list, how can we trish but what im getting at here, jordan, is hes talking about being meansirteed and unamerican and i dont think theres anything meanspirited or unamerican in this in that we are doing our darnedest to protect our own people. Thats right. Its a piece of the puzzle, trish, in trying to protect americans. Its not going to stop all terrorism, and it doesnt mean we dont have the threat. We know 300 out of 1,000 counterterrorism investigations going on right now this our country as you said in the opening of the show, 300 of those involve refugees. We have to take what we can do lawfully. And what i think here is most important, regardless of what a circuit a District Court judge does or the ninth circuit, i feel a lot more confident taking this all the way to the u. S. Supreme court trish all right. Well, thats a critical thing because that may have to happen if we see a repeat from the ninth circuit. Jordan, good to see you. Thank you very much. Another big story, of course, were following, President Trump saying president Obama Wiretapped him during the 2016 election. And now the Trump Administration is demanding an investigation. Heres what Kellyanne Conway had to say about it. As part of the house intention and Senate Intelligence Committee Investigations into possible russia connections which, of se, have not been p proven, the president would just like this to be part of that investigation, that the committees would use their Oversight Authority to see whether or not this, in fact, happened. We know that there was a lot of political motivation, a lot of politically motivated investigations and stories and activities during the campaign, and he would like this to be incorporated as part of the investigation. Trish in other words, why not have an investigation into everything . I want to go to Blake Burr Beman for the very latest right now. Reporter hi there, trish, and sean spicer is meeting with members of the media as we speak, i just got out of there a couple minutes ago, and here are the few headlines that we can tell you as it relates to this. First, mr. Spicer was just asked whether or not President Trump has spoken with james comey, the director of the fbi, and spicer says it is of his knowledge at least at in this point that those two have not spoken. It is the reporting of fox at point that the fbi director comey was part of the push or at least senior members of the fbi were part of the push over the weekend to have the president s claims publickingly refuted. Headline number one. Secondly, spicer was asked about what the president says about all of this on this day. The press secretary says he has spoken with the president , and the president is still pushing for a congressional investigation into his claims that he was wiretapped, that there was a wiretap potentially at trump tower during the 2016 election. Chris stuart is a member of the house intelligence committee, he appeared on neil cavutos show earlier this afternoon and says whatever happens, right now there is grandstanding going on on both sides of the aisle, and he says that investigation should take place behind closed doors. Listen. Its best done behind closed doors. Let us do this work and then come back and report to the american people. Because right now theres an awful lot of political grandstanding going on, and i just dont think its helpful. Reporter however, a democrat on that committee, joaquin castro, a congressman in his own right, tweeted out the following this afternoon saying, quote President Trump should back up his wiretapping claim immeately alogize to president obama and the nation. Ive seen no evidence. Says the House Intel Committee member. By the way, trish, that briefing is ongoing, as i mentioned, with sean spicer right now, and he says President Trump also wants an investigation from congress to look into all of the leaks surrounding many of the storylines with this. Spicer calling them, quote, pervasive leaks. Trish . Trish yeah. Understandable that he would want that. Its difficult to do your job when people are conspiring from within to potentially take you down. Anyway, keep us updated, blake. Thank you so much, blake burman. Joining me right now for more analysis, former cia officer buck sexton and fred weiss. Given your experience in the intelligence community, you will have a unique perspective on this. Buck, first of all, your reaction to this entire story that began unfolding in 3d on saturday morning. Well, one thing is just the immediate media response to this was, i think, very telling. On the one hand, you had people saying, well, we need to wait, theres no evidence. We shouldnt be Going Forward with this narrative or even reporting on this. Afterweeks and weeks, month really of reporting on Donald Trumps ties to russia as some part of trish despite no evidence on that front. And this is a willingness in the media at large to believe theres a massive, International Trump Russia Kremlin serious to throw the previous election still with zero evidence, but based on the New York Times own reporting which was accepted at least when it came out in january, there were supposed to be intercepts, signals intelligence gathered that proved there were these shady connections between Trump Officials and russian officials in some capacity. Nobody refuted that then because it was part of this narrative. Now people are pointing out, hold on a second, wouldnt that mean and theres actually some evidence in the New York Times piece itself that this was a counterintelligence investigation, techniques of spying, not of Law Enforcement, were used to look at the private communications of Trump Officials . Maybe trump himself. Trish thats right. Why is that a crazy story . Is why does that not deserve more investigation . Trish well, donald trump is demanding that, in fact, it does. Of course. Trish so from that perspective, you can undersnd how he must feel. Nonetheless, fred, you know, people are flipping out on the left saying this is a crazy accusation. Let me ask you about your sense of whether it could, in fact, happen. I mean, given your understanding of how intelligence be communities work, is it possible that there was some kind of warrant allowed to be able to intercept these communications regardless of whether they existed or not based on some fears that were being circulated in the media that, in fact, his campaign folkses did have some relations with russia . Well, trish, what i think were seeing here are all these technical and legalistic objections to what the president said. The president cant use the word wiretap even though the New York Times always uses this, the president , president obama didnt formally ask for a fisa warrant, the fbi didnt actually physically wiretap trump tower. What we have here is an effort by a president ial administration to use intelligence to surveil the president ial candidate of another Administration Just trish you really think that happened then, fred . I think it happened in a variety of ways. I think they tried to abuse Court Warrants to gather information against mr. Trump, and we know this from all this rest reporting. All these wiretaps, New York Times quotes wiretaps. I also believe information was collected under the guise of gathering information about russia when it really was intended to gather damaging information against Trump Officials that could be leaked to news media. Trish so in your view then, this is something that was motivated by the political arm of the west wing . These investigations that were not based on real fears, but on politics . I think it was all about politics, and i think its very interesting that there was this incredible interest by the fbi to investigate trump and his associates, but there was no interest in investigating much more troubling concerns about Hillary Clinton and bill clintons ties to russia. If this this isnt a coincidence. This is all about politics, it was about damaging mr. Trump. Trish well, the fbi is asking the Justice Department to refute this now, but would you anticipate or expect that, buck, if in fact theres any shenanigans going on . Just a few weeks ago there was reporting that the department of justice despite letting the white house though the story wasnt true, they wouldnt weigh many. Doj is probably going to take the same perspective. I agree with all of freds points about how this is getting down into the minutiae, youve got people saying obama doesnt order it, well, of course, thats really irrelevant. But you look at the initial reporting that led us to this point, and it seems to be unless you believe the New York Times is making this up entirely were saying this was a counterintelligence investigation meaning it used the techniques of spying which go outside traditional fourth and fifth amendment protections. Its a lot more leeway trish okay. If someone actually believed not for political purposes, but if they really feared that the russians were in tight with the Trump Campaign and they needed to get this kind of intelligence, they would need to get a warrant from a fisa warrant, would they not . What we would need to know and what i think we should know at this point because we would though if it were out there, why was there this strong belief that somebody was acting as a russian agent this is not just connections, unsavory talk if it was, in fact, a fisa warrant, the guidelines are very clear, it is acting as an agent of a foreign power. Where is the evidence for that up to this point . Trish well, yeah a former white house senior aide to obama that there must be something there because if they did this, there must be something there. Trish i hear ya, because we were saying this during the time when it was all unfolding. Everybody keeps talking about this. They have no specifics. It was just a bunch in some way it felt like hearsay you have illegal leaks already of general flynns phone call to the russian ambassador. How did that information get out there . Its from somebody with access. So theyre willing to play that dirty theyll break the law, its a federal felony whoevers leaking this information. I think if there was this smoking gun evidence somewhere to justify a fisa tap, we would know what that information is already, thats why theres a bit of a panic, because if they did in the without the necessary precondition of having real evidence, this was for, as fred said, purely political evidence. Trish by the way, our new president is calling everyone out on it. Go ahead, last thought, fred. The first and also the first fisa warrant was turned down. Remember that. The first fisa warrant. Trish yes. After it was turned down, this was according to the New York Times on february 14th, fbi asked nsa to viewpoint nice communications of ukrainian officialings. Wow, the fisa warrant was turned down because it was unjustified, and then the fbi said to, this sa, give us what youve got on manafort. Theres a lot of smoke here. Trish were going to keep following it. Thank you so much, buck and fred, good to have you guys here. Lets get to another one here, democrats pouncing on the allegations of the wiretappiing what if president is right . What if fred and buck are right and he was wiretapped by the Obama Administration . What does that mean . Its not good. On any level. Weve got it next. Hey gary, what are you doing . Oh hey john, im connecting our brains so we can share our amazing trading knowledge. Thats a great idea, but why dont you just go to thinkorswims chat rooms where you can share strategies, ideas, even actual trades with market professionals and thousands of other traders . I know. Your brain told my brain before you told my face. Mmm, blueberry . Tap into the knowledge of other traders on thinkorswim. Only at td ameritrade. Trish jumping in on President Trumps claim that the Obama Administration tapped his phones during the 2016 election, they say the whole thing is made up. Indeed, top democrat Chuck Schumer is actually accusing the president of spreading rumors and false information. Here he is on meet the press just yesterday. Watch. Either way, chuck, the president s in trouble. If he alwaysly spread this kind of falsely spread this kind of misinformation, that is so is wrong, its beneath the dignity of the presidency. On the other hand, if its true, its even worse for the president because that means that a federal judge independently elected has found probable cause that the president or people on his staff have, had roll cause to have broken the haw or to have interacted with a foreign agent. Trish i mean, if its not true, then and no wiretap was actually issue. , then what were they looking at in the first place just a who bunch of smoke and mirrors leaked to the media as we were just talking about with fred and buck. Joining me now, Leslie Marshall and ned ryan. Good to see both you guys. Ned, ill start with you. You know, look, the politicians are going to seize on this. It is highly confusing. Where do you think your average american comes out on all this, given what theyve had to digest this weekend . Well, first of all, i think theyre still trying to kind of digest what is actually going on here and trying to understand what are we talking about with the piece saw warrant, how does fisa warrant, how does that all work . The thing thats interesting is to see the reaction of josh earnest, obamas former spokesperson, and kevin jackson, see all these other people talking about, basically, orwellian double speak and to see the New York Times quoting, well, the targets were manafort and roger stone, and all of a sudden they say, wait, maybe there wasnt a warrant trish thats whats confusing, right, because the original report suggested there was a warrant exactly. Trish they had gone at least twice to get the warrant. Finish your thought. Thats right. It looks like they requested it twice, the first one rejected, the second one, it appears at least, was accepted. Heres thing, fisa warrants have to be signed off and certified by the fbi director and the attorney general. If it got to that point, the attorney general would never have signed off on something unless the white House Counsel had given permission. If this is true, this did go to the white house. Obama had to have been aware, and i think, ultimately, if there was a warrant and it was approved and signed off by white House Counsel, the question then becomes what did obama know and when did he know it. And thats where it could become very interesting. Trish leslie, your reaction to this story . Well, first of all, what we are saying, what we are alleging and if you look at the tweet from our current president , he is specifically accusing our former president , barack obama, of this, of wiretapping him in trump tower. What we do know to be fact is that there are trump individuals, there are aides that worked with trump where there were questionable connections regarding ukraine and russia. That is, that is a fact. Trish do we know that for a fact, or do we just know that manafort had done some consulting theres no evidence. Trish what specificically are you talking about . I am specificically talking about the requested fisa warrants that were being sought and why they were being sought. Right now what were looking at is a president who has the authority to declassify information trish we dont though why they were [inaudible conversations] guys, this is at the heart of the issue, right . We dont know why it is that they needed to get these warrants. We dont know the specifics around it in the first place. We know Paul Manafort did some consulting work in ukraine, and we hear a bunch of hearsay reported in the media, a lot of misinformation. If youve got something specifically, leslie, i want to though about it. What is it . What we have specifically is we have clapper, we have comey and the president , the former president of the United States, this is not true. It comes down to this, either one man, our current president , is lying or those former, those three men, names i just mentioned are lying. That is the truth. Trish okay. Leslie, youre saying if they had some power hang on, hang on, im going to get to you in a send. So what leslie just told us is that somehow they have got information which led them to go and request the fisa warrant in the first place. Now, we just heard from fred and buck who said they really find that doubtful, and their concern is all they had was a whole bunch of political rumors designed to try and take down donald trump, ask thats why they were out there thinly cloaked. Trish and if thats the case, ned, then thats a real problem. Here are a couple things i find interesting, trish. This is october if this did actually take place, october of 2016, and theyre saying manafort and stone are part of the target, manafort wasnt even with the campaign, roger stone hadnt been with the campaign for over ooh year. Interesting timing that youre coming into the last few weeks of an election. Trish ive just got ten seconds. The other thing about clapper really quick, why on earth would we believe clapper who lied to a Senate Committee trish all right, buck was just telling me same thing off camera. To believe. Trish ive got to leave it there. Were up against a hard break. Thanks so much, guys. Were going to be right back. Te. Roller derby. Now give up half of em. Do i have to . This is a tough financial choice we could face when we retire. But, if we start saving even just 1 more of our annual income. We could keep doing all the things we love. Prudential. Bring your challenges. Trish trump is falling through on his Campaign Promise to cut businesses and let businesses prosper. More than 90 regulations have been suspended or reverse. How do you like that . And the markets have been rallying big time over the government getting out of the way. Just take a look how the markets have been since this election. We are up better than 14 on the dow. 11 on the s p nasdaq trading up more than 12 . You know, the liberal media, they will not, cannot give the president any credit for these markets. So take a look at this headline weve got here in todays New York Times. Lisa come off wall street, gun shooters, polluters, and more. Former Campaign Manager joins me now. David, you see how they characterize it in the New York Times. Less regulation is somehow bad. I would say less regulation is somehow very good, and ill tell you the markets really seem to like trump economic policies. What is your take on all of this in terms of the interpretation by the media and what is tulyappening in the real world . Well, look, you know, the New York Times will always say conservatives want dirty air, dirty water, they want their children to be poisoned. It is unbelievable that they come up with this. Look, destroying the destruction of the administrative state. You know, a comment by my friend steve bannon and former colleague steve bannon a couple of weeks ago got everyones attention and the markets are paying attention because the leash is not off of the bad guys. The leash is off the job creators and thats what the market is recognizing. Trish but, david, thats an important here because i tell you a lot of people on the left see big business not as a job creator but as very much the enemy. I think back to when i was a younger reporter in the San Francisco newsroom and n ron went down, and there were actually believe it or not cheers in that newsroom. Granted it was San Francisco but there was a contingency among the reporting staff that wanted to see a company like nron because down because n ron was big, bad, and awful, and i said, no, guys, this is really, really bad. There are thousands of employees that had their 401 k wrapped up in n ron stock. The medias impression of big business. Yeah. And there were millions of americans who lost a lot of money in the stock market because of n ron. These people, theyre very shortsighted. Look, elections have consequences and scott peruet and a cabinet full of people like governor perry, now secretary perry who are going to go in there and wilbur ross looking for places. Every nook and cranny where the left over the last eight years has put in regulations to one increase costs and really create an opportunity, really, the inability for companies to hire new employees. To not make a profit. To have to spend more of their money on litigation fees. Trish they get stuck in all of that red tape. I talked to carl icahn about this recently, carl icahn the billionaire investor, and he said, look, im a good american. I want to invest in American Companies but sometimes i tell you that darn epa, they make it so darn difficult, and they really they dont provide the right incentives. So his whole platform has been and hes been an adviser to donald trump. Look, get rid of this regulation. Get rid of it so that we can all put money to work and that results in job creation and economic growth. Simple. Economics 101, david. Thats right. And im not an economist but even i know that. And thats right. Look, thats what the president ran on. Its one of the main staples of his campaign was were going to drain the swamp. Were going to repeal and replace. Were going to create investment and jobs. And one of those ways is going to be to cut regulations. Trish and we hope that keeps happening, despite all of these distractions that are leaving the headlines right now between russia and wiretaps, et cetera. Anyway, david, good toee you. Thank you very much for joining us. Thanks for having me. Trish violent antitrump protesters in berkeley, california as riots break out. So listen to that. Why the stereotype that Trump Supporters. Are the violent ones . Why does that get perpetuated . Who attacked those women in washington . And yet this is whats happening in berkeley . Were on it next [screaming]. Trish you see this . Its hard to watch. But those are protesters in berkeley, california beating up Trump Supporters. Turning incredibly violent there in berkeley. Its really unbelievable to watch. I mean, youve got these fights breaking out. Theyre on both sides several people were injured, ten arrests were actually made. But its heartbreaking to see that theyre attacking this poor guy. Hitting him in the head. Why do we have such a double standard . I mean, you saw the antitrump protests in dc; right . Demonstrators on the left going and marching totally in peace. They were not disruptive. But why the Trump Supporters get attacked for just trying to march themselves . Leslie marshall are back with me and, ned, its hard to watch as i said. Theyre just gangs up on that guy, punching him in the head. I mean, the media likes to portray Trump Supporters as these crazy red next with guns but in actuality the crazy ones seem to be right there in berkeley because theyre attacking that poor man. This is a continuation, though, trish of what theyre trying to do with the tea party. They want to frame the tea party as being they were even calling them domestic terrorists. There were congressman, democrat congressman calling Tea Party Members domestic terrorists when, in fact, the opposite was true. They were peaceful. They were even cleaning up after themselves. I was at these rallies, speaking at tea party rallies. Peaceful rallies. And then went to turn into real political change. And hereou have the resistance. And i want to make it very clear there are certain aspects of the left thank that violence, that attacking people, violence on individuals and destruction of personal property is a way to advance their cultural and social and political desires. And this, to me, is extremely unamerican, if you look at our traditions and how we have peaceful assembly, the tea party and even these Trump Supporters actually have more in common with Martin Luther king jr. Than the left does. And if you look at history, and you understand who wants to use violence to advance their social and political goals, its troubling. Trish yeah, i hear you. When you talk about the destruction of property, and we saw that in the riots in ferguson, great example there of how people took to the streets in a way that was not productive. Right. Trish im sugar coating this by using that language. But was not productive in any way for society. Leslie, the left keeps painting Trump Supporters as the wild ones, but you look at stuff like that, and its clearly not the case. Can you defend it in any way . Do you defend it in any way . Well, most liberals are pacifists like myself, and i dont condone any violence and the First Amendment doesnt cover that. As you rightly pointed out, trish, there was violence on both sides. We saw this in videos. We saw Trump Supporters with pepper spray or shields. Trish theyve got to protect themes. Theyve got to protect themselves. If youre getting beaten in the head, are you supposed to just sit there and take it . Well, not everybody was defending themselves. There is a video of pepper spray to a trump protester. But either way this is not what our founded fathers have in mind when they talked about freedom of speech and freedom of protest. Trish i agree with you. And im glad that we can be on the same page on that. However,. Trish however what . However, we do have two instances of shootings. One of a man and another of two indian men who died when Trump Supporters said get out of my country and shot these individuals, and i think thats where some on the left feel Trump Supporters are violent. Trish we keep hearing over and over again and projected by a leftist media. They want people to think that Trump Supporters are somehow these crazy white house supremacists that dont want to allow a freedom of thought. But in actuality, the ones that are not allowing the freedom of thought and we say this over and over again, specifically on college campuses, happen to be those on the left. Go ahead. No. Exactly, and i think its somewhat staggering democrats disavowing this. There is nothing to defend here. And i continue to disavow anything on the right, including the alt right and saying we have nothing to do with anything that even comes close to personal violence or White Supremacy or any of those things. But youre right. Its interesting to me, trish, that people claim they want to have freedom of thought, freedom of expression, all of these things, they suddenly have a different view of life when all of a sudden theyre confronted with these opposing ideas. And, again, theres nothing to defend here. It should be disavowed. It is unamerican. And we need to understand at the end of the day, trish, this is the thing that im growing more and more concerned about. Were all americans. Each one of us. Right, left. Were americans. We have to have a lot in common. Trish yes, and we should be able to. On Economic Issues and on security issues. Its good to see both of you guys. Thank you very much. Thank you. Trish President Trump making the appeal to traditional bluecollar democrats with his pro coal agenda and his vow to bring back american jobs. The gop, though, has had a long, contentious relationship with labor unions. So this is an interesting line hes walking. Can President Trump bring them back into the party . Wouldnt that be something . Were on it for you on this big political move and what its going to cost the democrats right after this. Me to reach my goals. Ie so i liked when my doctor told me i may reach my blood sugar and a1c goals by activating whats within me with onceweekly trulicity. Trulicity is not insulin. 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And there are roadblocks in the president s way, including the push to reign in federal spending. James from fox news has all the details first on one. Hey, james. Trish, good afternoon. You have to go back to Richard Nixons election landslide 1972 to find the only time a modern gop nominee has won the labor vote. If President Trump is to make similar inroads, it would almost surely be with private sector unions, like those representing the coal minors he welcomed last month. Bill eliminating by the office of Surface Mining reclamation and enforcement. That required Coal Companies to monitor Water Quality near mines and restore bodies of body after mining was completely. The head of the cio told President Trump thus far to the unionized working men and women of america has presented a mixed bag. What he did on tpp was good. The things hes trying to do with infrastructure is good. Theres a lot of those things. And then on the other side, you know, he put some people that were pretty antiunion. Last year according to federal statistics, the number of wage and salary workers belonging to unions declined to about 14. 5 million people, a drop from the year before of just under a quarter of a million people. The bureau of labor statistics further tells us the total membership of americas unionized workforce is almost evenly split between public and private sector unions with roughly 7 million members in each sector. In november, fox news exit polls recorded that among the 18 of reporters that voted having a union member in the household, the break down was 51 for Hillary Clinton, 42 for donald trump. That marked a drop of 5 Percentage Points from the share that president obama enjoyed in 2012. The peak of american member membership was up was one third of salary workers belonged to one. Trish. Trish thats a large pocket of people there, if he can bring them in, it will really start to change things. Good to see you. Thank you very much. San francisco announcing it will drop out of the Fbi Joint Terrorism Task force, which is 93 terrorism attacks and, yes, you heard that right. San francisco says its no longer going to work with the fbi. Amid concerns that the fbi targets arabs and muslims. So why is San Francisco placing Political Correctness over the safety of its citizens . Thats next. Your insurance on time. Tap one little bumper, and up go your rates. What good is having insurance if you get punished for using it . News flash nobodys perfect. For drivers with accident forgiveness, Liberty Mutual wont raise your rates due to your first accident. And if you do have an accident, our claims centers are available to assist you 24 7. Call for a free quote today. Liberty stands with you™ Liberty Mutual insurance. Trish i have to say this was an unbelievable story. Talking about anarchy, the city of San Francisco is ending its partnership with the joint Terrorism Task force after local activist groups accuse the fbi of unfairly targeting muslims. Critics say this move could put americans in danger and for no good reason. You think . I mean, the fbi antiterror initiative has certainly been successful in stopping extremist activity within the u. S. And therefore lets be simple here, its needed. We need the fbi. We need the fbi, and we need cities like San Francisco working together with the fbi. In fact, do you knowhat the task force is responsible for stopping at least 93 terror attacks since 9 11 . And that they rely heavily on local intelligence for their investigations . In other words, the city government, the federal government working together. We need that. We need San Francisco to share its intel and San Francisco needs the fbi to help them. Well, my next guest says this whole thing is just not San Franciscos decision is quote extremely and dangerously irresponsible. Former nypd commissioner, a guy who knows a thing or two about sharing information with the feds, bernie, he joins me here on set now. Good to see you, sir. I still have this, and i thought, look, its San Francisco; right . And we know San Francisco has its liberal tenancies. But my goodness. Youre talking about the safety and wellbeing of one of the largest cities, bernie, in the entire country. Yeah. But, trish, its not only the city of San Francisco that you have to worry about. You have to worry about whats out of that terrorist task force in San Francisco that you would have an impact on some antiterror effort in the United States and abroad. Trish they could be working, terrorists could be working in San Francisco and San Francisco police would not be sharing it with national Law Enforcement, therefore they could pull off Something Else in another city . Well, you have loopholes that could be missed. So a terrorist task force like this, the fbis task force consists of local police departments, the state police, and the fbi. Theyre put together in one to make sure that intelligences gathered, intelligences communicated amongst all, and that we dont miss anything. Prior to 9 11, we had one in newark, new york city, l. A. There were probably ten around the country. Now theyre in most of the major cities of the United States, and they should be because the fbi only has 14,000 agents. They have more than 1,000 of these inquiries targets that thre oking at right now. Trish this is just its crazy to me. I mean, why its irresponsible. Its dangerous. It puts the lives of american citizens in danger here and abroad. Theres stuff that comes out of these investigations that lead trish is there any way to stop it . I mean, is there a way that the feds can say, listen, San Francisco, you have to get with the program. Well, the feds can go in, the fbi can go in and subpoena certain stuff from San Francisco, from the police department. But this should be easily accessible information. And the whole nonsense that, you know, the fbi may be targeting muslims unnecessary. Well, theres no substance to that. Theres no actual substance evidence of that. This is all political. Its generated by the left wing, you know, political parties, and its dangering the lives of people in the u. S. Trish its a shame that this gets boiled down to politics because people are not thinking about the big picture. Let me ask your thoughts on this. Do you think there was any kind of warrant issued to tap into communications at trump tower . Do you have any gut reaction, even your background in Law Enforcement . First of all, i think theres something to it. You know, theres obviously they went and attempted a pfizer warrant in june. There was another warrant, another fisa application in june. Trish so trumps not making up this, in your view . Theres too much smoke about this. Plus the New York Times story, the intelligence about stuff that was gathered or stuff that was being gathered. You know, my question is was it a fisa application . Was it a title 3 intercept . Trish what is a title 3 . Its a criminal wiretap. You know, either way trish easier to get . Its easier to get under criminal circumstances. But they would have to have a target. They would have to have probable cause to believe something happened. But either way, the interesting thing for both of these is nothing was obtained trish got to go but thank you so much, bernie. Thank you. Trish well be right back kids. I just snapped a photo and got an estimate in 24 hours. My Insurance Company definitely doesnt have that. You can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™ Liberty Mutual insurance well, what are you doing o take care otomorrow 10am . But. Staff meeting. 3 45 . Tai chi. 6 30 . Sams baseball practice. You are busy. Wouldnt it be great if you had investments that worked as hard as you do . Yeah. Introducing essential portfolios the automated investing solution. Trish you know, it was quite a weekend; right . With those saturday morning tweets from our president. But weve had four people, four experts on this show today that they think he is onto something. In other words, why was there this warrant in the first place . They think there was one, and they question the political motives behind all of it. I want to hear from you. Head to my facebook show page and tell me what you think of that story. Liz claman has you from here. Liz i do. And you know what, trish . I dont know if we can do this. Can we show Airline Stocks at the moment . Theyre getting hammered in this final hour. 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