Network. A pivotal vote coming up in britain. Will britain leave the European Union . Well discuss how it could impact the economy here in the United States as we look ahead on sunday morning futures. And we begin this morning with the latest on the orlando terrorist attack as we learn that omar mateen texted his wife during the massacre at the pulse nightclub. This is going to multiple reports claiming he asked her if she had seen the news. He wanted to know if it was trending. Meanwhile, investigators are also looking into mateens two trips to saudi arabia, which experts say may have been cover for terrorist training. Lets bring in republican congressman peter king of new york. Hes a member of the Homeland Security committee and the chairman of the subcommittee on counterterrorism and intelligence. Also joining me is Sebastien Gorka and matthew horner, distinguished chair at military marine university. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Congressman, what do we know about the shooter . What is new in terms of this investigation this morning . Maria, i think he is the ideal profile for the type of person that isis has been trying to recruit for the last several years. Hes probably psychotic, has some mental imbalance but hes drawn to terrorism. This is why the fbi needs to adjust their profile. They did not believe he should stay on part of an open investigation because they felt he was unbalanced. He didnt understand the difference between shiite and sun sunni. That is the type of person isis has managed to recruit. We had two Police Officers attack a year and a half ago with the man with a machete. He was inspired by isis. Isis has this unique ability to reach out to borderline psychoti psychotics, unbalanced people, in addition to the hardcore people they recruit. So when people dismiss this as a lone wolf. No, hes the mad man. We learned from testimony last week of john brennan that isis is preparing attacks, more attacks in the west, and trying to lure more through the internet and trying to infiltrate the refugee flow. Absolutely. In fact, im surprised that didnt get more coverage. Director brennan volunteered that, that isis is attempting to infiltrate the refuse geese coming into this country and they are accelerating their attempt to recruit people in the United States and europe. When i talk about the imbalance, thats only one part of it. They are also still very actively going after the committed hard core islamists to carry out the attacks. With ramadan here in the u. S. Overlapping with the fourth of july, we especially have to be on our guard. What does orlando tell us about the state of terrorism in america . How should the u. S. Be responding . I think orlando proves isis is using a different strategy when it comes to picking their targets and how they execute them. Look at the trend in jihadi violence in the last 18 months. In fact, since isis declared the caliphate. Weve had paris attacked twice, the mass attack in brussels, San Bernardino and now orlando. The spectacle of the large attack like 9 11 is not what theyre interested in right now. Right now they just want to take the fight to the infidel, thats us and take it to people where they cant protect themselves. Whether its a soccer stadium, a concert hall in paris, airport in brussels, Christmas Party in San Bernardino or this gay club, they want to find as many people as possible and slaughter them like lambs, maria. Unbelievable. What do you think people should be doing . As the u. S. Approaches isis and tries to reestablish what the policy is right now, what would you say is most important in terms of ensuring that we do not see terrorist attacks on the homeland . The biggest thing at the strategic level doesnt focus on the wrong things. Its not about guns. Its about jihadi ideology. You could ban every gun in america, but jihadis will still get them and still kill americans. Lets focus on what the threat is. The see something, Say Something has to be real. People cannot be afraid of telling the police if they see something suspicious as they were in San Bernardino, because if you cant tell people, you may not be able to save lives. Jihadis surveil, they testrun. You need to be able to report those suspicious activities. Lastly, every american, maria, every american, you, your staff, your relatives, have to understand, you are on the front line of this war. You have to be aware, cognizant of your surroundings. If you get into this kind of situation, if you cant run away, if you cant hide, you fight. There were hundreds of people in that club. You have to attack him with whatever you have, chairs, fire extinguishers. Everyone is on the front line. This is a sad statement gorka made about guns. We know whats about to happen next week. We have republicans and democrats accepting four separate proposals to curb gun sales for people on terrorism watch lists. Will this go forward or are they destined to fail, given the fac impacting their constitutional right . I agree, this is terror attack. You know, the gun issue is a side issue. Having said that, i do believe if you are on a terror watch list, you shouldnt be able to purchase a weapon. We have to find a way to put that list together. Having said that, 90 or 95 would go forward. I think we can do both at the same time. I think its important to make it more difficult for terrorists to get guns. Maybe they would leave more signs or send more signals if they are stopped in their attempt to get a weapon. On the other hand, though, we have to be much more aggressive against isis. Here in this country, i think the fbi, they have to realize now, is if they dont feel theres enough smoke to say theres a fire and they cant keep an investigation open, make sure the local police are fully advised of all the information they have on these possible suspects because its the local police who have the sources. They have the informers. They have the undercovers. They can get access the fbi cant get. These cops live lifetimes in these communities. The fbi agents are in and out. Theres no reflection on them. Its a different type of policing. If the fbi feels they dont have enough or still some question marks, make sure the local police are fully apprised of that. There have been no major restrictions on gun control since 1984 when Congress Imposed a ban on semiautomatic, but that expired. What do you expect next week . We know Susan Collins is making a new push to try to have a tailored new effort and considering, obviously, preventing the sale of guns to terrorism suspects, whose names are on that government list. I would hope the senate can find a way to make it work. What might be the wild card is not just Susan Collins who is thoughtful and trying to work something out, but a wild card could be donald trump. He has said he does not believe terrorists should be able to purchase weapons. Again, hes going to be talking to the nra. The impact he can have, i dont know. I wish both sides would come out of their corners and try to work this out. I think it can be worked out. I agree with dr. Gorka to this extent, even if we get a ban of terrorists getting guns, the threat is still going to be there, 95 is still going to be there, but its a step. Dr. Gorka, last week we saw 50 u. S. Ambassadors write a letter to obama, u. S. Ambassadors saying, we are not tough enough on syria and taking down the assad regime. Really interesting to see 50 u. S. Ambassadors pushing back on president obama. Similarly with john brennan. Last week the cia director completely going in a different direction. The president has been saying isis is contained and isis is being controlled and brennan comes out and says, no, unfortunately, we have been unable to rein in isis at this point and they are actually ramping up. Yes, maria, this is fascinating. 50 state Department Employees at the same time last year, you have 60 intelligence saying their analysis on isis is being deepsixed by the administration, or censored. And then the cia director coming out in unclassified testimony and saying, isis is as strong as it ever was. It has global reach. Its continued to do these attacks. He says this, this is what people missed in the testimony, he said, in my 30year career as an intelligence professional, i have never seen the world so unstable. That is a direct indictment of president obama and Hillary Clinton, who was secretary of state. Finally, the narrative, the bubble that everythings okay is starting to shatter and people at the highest level are like rats jumping the sinking ship, maria. Really Extraordinary Events last week. Dprchlt gorka, good see you. Congressman king, we appreciate your time this morning. Always great value from you. Well see you soon, gentleman. Thank you very much dr. Gorka, author of defeating jihad. Well take a short break and then more on the chilling update on the fight against isis. How his assessment stands in stark contrast from president obamas. Follow me on twitter alt mariabartiromo sundaymorning futures. Closing the stage this afternoon for auditions . Whats on that piece of paper . 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Im pleased to be back on your program. Happy fathers day. Particularly those military fathers who may not be home this weekend, our Law Enforcement and first responders. I second that, to all the great men and women who are serving our wonderful country. Let me ask you about the john brennan comments last week. He basically admitted, no, we are nowhere near victor and, in fact, isis has gotten stronger. Maria, it was very discourage i ing. We have witnesses in front of committee on a regular basis, particularly administration witnesses, seem to speak just as if theyre trying to sanitize the information they would Want Congress to hear or the American People to see, hear in the news. I appreciate this cia director brennan really laying it on the line and saying things many of us believed, certainly felt, but have been rarely said by those who work in this administration. We have president obama, who is clearly interested in trying to diminish the believe theres a serious threat, downplaying the circumstances we find ourselves in. It was very refreshing, though very discouraging and disillusioning to hear how little if any progress we made in our battle against terror, particularly as the cia director indicated, against isis. I dont understand why i mean, i guess the president wants to be optimistic, but why is he trying to show a good face on isis when we know theyve only gotten stronger . Weve watched sympathizers in the United States try to take cues from this terrorist group. Why isnt the president telling us the way it is . Interesting to see john brennan go against what the president has been trying to sell the American People. We would like to see all witnesses come and tell us their point of view in the congressional hearing. That ought not matter whether you serve an administration. I cant speak for president obama and his motives, but what i would guess, again, just trying to analyze where we are, president obama ran on office for presidency on a couple of occasions in which his goal was to get us out of the role we had been playing in the world to diminish the necessity for america to have military people around the world. Isis is contrary, the need for those, that military effort, that intelligence effort, the idea the world is safe and secure doesnt fit with the narrative we see from these terrorists on an ongoing basis. I mean, we want to ask you about policy and what you think should be done now. Heres another sound bite from john brennan last week when he was asked about the status, where are we in the fight against isis . Unfortunately, despite all our progress against isil on the battlefield and financial realm, our efforts have not reduced the groups terrorism capability and global reach. What will reduce their capability and global reach, senator . Well, i mean, i can talk about the mistakes that have been made and theyre hard to rectify. Some of those mistakes iraq, for example. The goal seemed to override the circumstances we placed iraq in because of our military sacrifice were not lost by an early departure, lack of presence of the u. S. And stability, feckless policy in syria, which is hard to determine how anything were doing lends to stability in syria. Our intrusion in libya created another environment. Look, im just a few miles here this morning in the neighborhood of ft. Riley. We dont our soldiers here, their families have paid significant sacrifice in multiple deployments. Its not easy we would ever say we want to deploy again, although i know our soldiers and families will respond to an order. But this is about putting a policy policies in place, a state Department Diplomacy in which our friends around the world would once again respect us and our enemies fear us. And it seems to me were in the worst possible circumstance now in which exactly the opposite is the case. Senator, let me switch gears real quick because i know janet yellen is speaking to the Banking Committee next week. Shes going to speak to the house on monday, senate on tuesday in her semiannual address. The fed cant raise Interest Rates because the economy is too weak. What are you expecting out of this testimony . Im always anxious to hear the Federal Reserve and their testimony. My impression is the conversation will be a lot about Interest Rates. Thats been a significant political topic. I think what the truth is, the reality is as we saw from the jobs report for may, is this economy is having a very difficult time in its recovery. In kansas, in my conversations, people are looking for the belief their jobs are secure, they have a chance for increase in their pay, that there may be a better job down the road their kids when they graduate will get from from college will get a job and they can pay back their student loans. And i think how fragile the economy is lends itself to a very timid policy at the Federal Reserve in regard to Interest Rates. I guess we need a roll back in regulation. We absolutely do. The Things Congress and the president , the administration should be doing that would increase the chances of those things happening are the opposite of what generally is happening. That has to do with look at all these purchases you made with your Airline Credit card. Hold on. You only got double miles on stuff you bought from that airline . Let me show you something better. The capital one venture card. With venture, you earn unlimited double miles on every purchase. Not just. dismissively airline purchases. 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You still have this grounds movement to come up with nominee. What is donald trump going to do about it . Its a very, very small selfinterested group. If you look at what happened in the primary, not only did he win by more than it 2 million votes, more than anybody has ever gotten, period, but in 45 of the 50 states we had record republican turnout. So, i think there are some folks, primarily based in washington, but a few outside, who still wish they had won, but they didnt. You know, outside of a little bit of noise in cleveland, theyre going to get squashed. I recognize donald trump has gotten those 14 million votes in the primary and what he said and what youre just saying as well, but how important is it for donald trump to have the Republican Party behind him, going into the convention . How important is it to unify this party, from your standpoint . Well, you know, typically these campaigns, you start with the establishment and then you try to get to the 2 of 4 voter, people that vote about half of the time around the country. Donald trump started with those people. In youngstown, ohio, they have 38,000 registered voters. Hes doing well in target states but not on k street. Thats okay. Well take that. So you dont think its important to have the Party Unified going into the convention . How important is it to unify it the party . We want unity but theres never going to be unanimous. And, you know, there are a lot of people, you know, who are skeptics about everything. You know, i was not a huge fan, for instance, of john mccain. I said id never vote for him. I did. I wrote him a check. It just took some time. I see. You think over time, in the next couple of weeks, the next couple of months, the Republican Party will come around and support donald trump then . Yeah, absolutely. What does donald trump need to do to resonate with those skeptics out there still in terms of policy . Do you think he needs to get a little more specific in terms of his policy, how he will defeat isis, how will he create jobs, when he will, in fact, implement tax reform . This is something you hear them squawk about. Its quite clear how you create jobs. Its not very difficult. You undo the onetwo punch the Obama Administration has put on our economy. You know, incredibly noncompetitive taxation and ridiculously burdensome regulation. You roll those back and suddenly america starts to roar again. Its not that complicated. You dont need a ph. D. In economics to figure that out. Dont you have to communicate that to the American People, communicate that absolutely. To those skeptics out there so everybody understands how simple and that its not brain surgery, like you say . Absolutely. Weve got a long campaign. Weve got you know, weve got several months to do that, and we will have there will be entire chunks of the Campaign Just devoted to that. Were just four months away from an election. Let me ask you about the gun control measures, because last week donald trump suggested he can work with gun rights lobbyists to bring about change. What kind of change is donald trump interested in as it relates to guns . Well, you know, the issue is, how do we keep gun as way from terrorists or potential terrorists . You know, the government has a series of lists of, you know, people that they either want to watch all the way down to a much more specific list, but even those are not very high quality. Unfortunately, the systems that were put in place by the bush administration, some of them have just been left to wilt. And, unfortunately, we dont have very good lists. So, we need a highquality list. Nobody wants bad people or mentally ill people to get guns. But, unfortunately, our ability to create these lists is just ridiculous. So, you want to make sure that theres theres an approach to make sure those lists, the terrorism watch lists, are accurate . Yeah. I mean, you know, they they cant just be people have, unfortunately, a name that sounds like somebody else which is theres, what, 800,000 people on the watch list. Well, there arent 800,000 potential terrorists in america. Once those watch lists are fixed, youre saying donald trump will make sure that anybody on that watch list cannot get a gun. I think if we had a good, solid, highquality list of bad people, of course we wouldnt want them to have guns. Barry, good to have you on the program this morning. Thank you very much. Barry bennett joining us there. To stay or not to stay. British voters deciding in this upcoming week whether the country should remain in the European Union. What are the implications for america . 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If the uk decides to leave the eu, what are the practical changes that the uk and the eu will see as it relates to trade, regulation and anything else thats most important . If britain leaves the eu, it would be bad for britain and bad for the rest of the world because the markets would get shaken. It would affect britain, america and the rest of the world. We are one world. We have to work together. We either pull together or be pulled apart. But in terms of markets, what are markets reacting to . You say theyll be shaken. Why . Because people are worried about new trade deals the uk will have to do . What are the Practical Implications that come out of a leave vote . Markets dont like uncertainty. If britain decides to leave, it has two years to renegotiate the trade deals. What happens during that time . People wont want to invest. Its the shakiness that destroy confidence, jobs and investment, maria. I see. So, they have two years to do new trade deals. What about the Regulatory Environment . Weve already heard a number of bankers in the u. S. Even say, look, if the uk leaves, were going to take money out of the uk. Do you expect outflows out of the uk if we were to see that happen as well . I do. I mean, there are 75 main banks in london. Thats our main advantage. But with this uncertainty, theyre going to flee london. We dont want that. It will be bad for britain, but wad for the rest of the world, too. Lets talk about the implications and why you think the uk should be in the European Union. Im not saying the eu is perfect, but we have to remain in to change it. Theres a lot of red tape. I understand that. But if we are outside the group, it will just get worse. We have to renegotiate all the trade deals. Thats going to take a long time, even longer than two years. Yeah. Lets talk about those trade deals because we have a graphic here that shows the u. S. British trade in 2015. What are the most important trading relationships right now that britain will have to redo . Its at the Small Business level. You put a quarter of a million americans living and working in london alone. With that uncertainty they will not take a chance. Theyll start to invest in other parts of the world. China. You know, we want people to come to london. We are one world. Theres only one race, the human race. And leaving the eu is a disaster. Its plunging into the unknown. Its bad for the economy. Not just the british economy, but the world economy. Yeah. It was pretty extraordinary, obviously, my condolences after the murder of jo cox. This certainly impacted many peoples thinking on this. And initially before this happened, this horrific situation last week, there was a majority that wanted to leave. And now we see the polls have completely changed. Do you think the murder had something to do with that change in sentiment . I do. Before jos death can i just say, jo cox was only 41 years of age. She had two little children, age 3 and 5. She was a rising star. Shell be sorely missed. Now, before she died, the rhetoric was angry, people were hurling insults at each other. It was more heat lan light. Now the rhetoric has calmed down. We have a service in her memory tomorrow. People are beginning to realize, we need to build bridges between people, not walls. Part of the issue is the open borders throughout europe and the immigration reform, or lack of in europe. What would you like to see in europe in terms of immigration as a result of the upset coming out of britain . Well, can i say immigration is actually a good thing. If you took away the immigrant doctors from our National Health service, we wouldnt have a National Health service. Britain is a country of immigrants. America is a country of immigrants. Winston churchill 70 years ago that talked about the special relationship between britain and america. And if we leave the eu, that will put that very much in danger. Now, im not saying we should have just open border immigration. But we do need immigrants with controls. You mentioned a lot of good points and important points to remember but this is a different sometime. We heard from john brennan, the head of the cia, say isis is trial to infiltrate the refugee flow. We see whats happening in terms of people wearing refugee clothes and, in fact, they could be isis operatives. Are you saying nothing should be changed in terms of immigration in europe . Well, lets learn the lessons from history. The reason why the eu came into being was to protect our continent from further wars. It came into being after the second world war. Since the eu came in to being, we havent had war in europe. Yes, of course, we have to be careful, have security checks but dont throw the baby out with the bath water and just leave europe. Its crazy. Thats an important point. Real quick, lord taylor, britain decided, what, 15, 20 years ago not to join the euro and stay with the british pound. Was that a good idea . That was a good idea. But if you consider the debate were talking about now, every independent authority is saying we should remain in europe. We should listen to them. Lord taylor, good have you on the program this morning. Thank you much. Well see you soon. Lorde taylor joining us there. Lets see whats coming up on media buzz, the top of the hour, howie kurtz. Well have highlights of an intervieiew i did with donald trump. He says hes disappointed in Republican Leaders running away from, particularly mentioning mitch mcconnell. He also takes whacks at outlet from washington post, politico and msnbcs morning joe and our colleague bill hemmer on dealing with tragedy and terror when he was in orlando. Well see you in about 20 minutes. Thank you. 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Crazy bernie, he doesnt give up. Hes waiting for, really, the fbi to do what everybody thinks theyre going to do. I mean, i think thats right . I think hes sort of saying, look, lets hang in there because ultimately its called the fbi convention. Well see if the right thing happens. On that note lets bring in our panel, ed rollins, former principle adviser to president reagan and fox anl list. Susan is chief Congressional Correspondent for the washington examiner, and rick is the former adviser to four ambassadors to the united nations. Thanks for joining us. Do you think thats why Bernie Sanders is not stepping down yet . No. I think he has a movement and he wants to keep that beyond the convention. He says repeatedly, beating trump is most important but keeping the movement alive. We dont know where this investigation goes, though. No. It could be an effective strategy for trump to do that because he throws these labels out and they stick. He can call her crooked hillary and it lowers the trust level in Hillary Clinton. Its a problem she already has in the polls. Even though its probably unlikely shell be indicted this campaign season, for him to throw out that possibility, as a political strategy, probably not a bad one. Yeah, but i mean, is he hurting hillary by staying in . What do you think . I think hes totally hurting hillary. With all due respect i disagree with both of those guys. I think Hillary Clinton will be indicted. You do . I think she absolutely has to be indicted. When you look at the information, when you look at the facts, theres no other conclusion. So, i believe she will be. And i think that Bernie Sanders and others, the reason why joe biden is throwing out names like, oh, Elizabeth Warren would be my vp and youve got a whole bunch of talk about who biden would want to support and whether or not hes going to even go for hillary publicly or if hes going to keep flirting with this left part of the party, i think its clear that they know something, that something is coming and hillary will be indicted. You also have the foundation portion of this story. I think a lot of the email transactions or investigation, rather, has led the authorities to things about the foundation that are very troubling. Foundation, ive always felt, is most vulnerable. Saudi arabias give 20 million to the secretary of state husbands foundation, that shes certainly part of. I think the critical thing here and im a trump supporter, as you know. I think trump has stumbled the last couple of weeks. He has to forget the primary is over. He won that. He has to quit fighting with republicans. He wants the rnc to help him, theyll help him at the end of the day. I think at the end of the day, he has to set up campaign, get on message, make it very, very important to stay consistent. He has three or four weeks before the convention. He has to bring his party together. Its about addition and be a very viable candidate coming out of that convention with momentum. And you would think the issues are so clearcut. I mean, look at the last jokz number, 38,000 jobs created. Obviously, a weak economy. Look at what john brennan said this past week, rick, basically going 100 against what obama has been telling us that isis is contained. Look, president obamas audience is the American People and we dont have access to the intelligence. But John Brennans audience are senators, who do have access to the intelligence. They know the facts. We are not beating isis. We havent been able to take out their command and control center after four years. Thats unbelievable. Five years ago president obama said assad should go. Four years ago he made a red line commitment. Both of those, nothing has happened. Isis has grown under secretary of state Hillary Clinton and secretary of state john kerry. Those are the facts. Yeah. And its interesting is that trump could actually use go after clinton on policy, but he tends to just go off on tangents when hes on the campaign trail. If he would stick to the script, as Republican Leaders have asked him to and kind of stayed with talking about his own ideas about foreign policy, maybe going after her on her record, i think that thats a path forward for him. Lets take a short break. When we come back, i want to talk about the Congressional Committee voting to censor the irs commissioner over the agents targeting of senators. As we look ahead on sunday morning futures. Irs is next. Innovative sonicare technology with up to 27 more brush movements versus oral b. 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Did he lie or did he just not know. His defense, theres the argument that he didnt realize that the emails were cried and then they could have been recovered. Which they were later. This is lois lerners emails. She was in charge of the socalled targeting of conservative groups seeking tax exempt status. Theres a sense to congress that theyve been lied to. But on the koskinen said theyre saying he misspoke or he didnt know and there was a lot of misinformation going around. But doesnt somebody have to take responsibility for what went on here . I mean shouldnt he step down . Yeah, somebody should. I mean, look, he was unequivocal in saying it didnt happen. Its not like he just took the answer and said well i dont know, let me look into it. Thats right. He was unequivocal on the other side. So i think he misled or lied on purpose, and whats taking so long with the house here . Why are we still talking about this issue. Why didnt they do this a year ago . Yeah. The fact that were here now and were just censuring, i mean this is one of the problems that the house has. They dont bring it home and actually do action. Theres no more Important Agency to be trusted than the irs. Everybody has confidence agreed. Its very, very important. That the American Public have a trust, your stuff is being kept personally, that you basically are paying your proper taxes and all the rest of it. For this guy to basically mislead the congress as he did, i think is a tragedy and he deserves to be censured. The Treasury Department oversees the irs. Right. Should somebody in treasury be taking the fall here . Mean while the Inspector General is the one who discovered the targets and some of the other flaus as well. I think what youre seeing is reluctance on the part of the Republican Leadership to dedicate time to an impeachment process. Is that what this is . Too much on the plate . The republicans have this big, broad agenda. They want to put out for the voters to see before the november election. However, they know this issue was really important to the base. Thats right. So theyre trying to do both things. Thats why i think you may see an impeachment vote. I think its important to both republicans and democrats, because god forbid if a President Trump appointed an irs commissioner who went in and had the same type of tactics that the democrats have done, suddenly then democrats become a target and the irs is completely imploded with credibility across the board. No one should be a target of the irs. The irs is a process and you have to have that safety in it. But we dont. Well take a short break. The one thing to watch in the week ahead on sunday morning futures from our panel. Stay with us. This is your daughter. And she just got this. Ooh boy. But, youve got hum. So you can set this. And if she drives like this, you can tell her to drive more like this. Because youll get this. 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