Dick cheney was what some call a shadow president. John other Vice President s dont do much. But even if they dont do much, the vp is a heartbeat away. So who are these men . Thats our show tonight. [applause] john all the coverage this Campaign Season focused on donald versus hillary. As it should. They are the president ial candidates. And trump is entertaining. And hillary, her scandals are entertaining. But the Vice President ial candidates, they are mostly boring. I have been rinsing to speeches by pence and kaine. These two are unusually dull. What does a Vice President do anyway . Fdrs Vice President said the job is not worth a bucket of warm spit. Well do a full hour on Vice President ial candidates. Silence. One of these men will be only a heartbeat away from the presidency. So it matters. Since 1900. 15 of Vice President s have become president s. Donald and hillary will be 70 years old next year. Vice president s do matter. Lets start with Donald Trumps vp pick, mike pence. I accept your up have i takes to run and serve as Vice President of the United States of america. John so who is mike pence . As governor and a congressman he got a lot of things right. He doesnt want government to squander your money. Bills like no child left behind and the Medicare Prescription Drug bill i helped lead the fights against them. John he oppose his fellow republicans who said lets bail out gm and chrysler. He lost those battles, but at least he fought them. John . George w. Bushs spending. Sadly the democrats spent even more. Mike pence oppose all these programs. Obamacare, bushs medicare expansion, no child left behind, the wall street bailout, obamas stimulus. That kind of fiscal responsibility is something we dont hear from the guy hes running with, donald trump hardly ever talks about restraining spending. He just came out with a half a trillion dollar infrastructure plan. But opinions also different from trump in a bad way. He wants to regulate our personal lives. He opposes gay marriage and civil unions. And gambling. Thats just dumb. Legal betting markets provide the best way to predict the future. Internet gambling has thrived overseas. This website alerts all of you despite the pass hype, Hillary Clinton was always the big favorites. And all those betters were late to bet on trump, the betting odds beat most pundits predictions. I can see why hillary picked kaine. He sucks up to hillary. You can go on hillaryclinton. Com and finds out how shell make the biggest investment in jobs in a generation. John he made spending cuts when he was governor of virginia, but he was forced to make those cuts because virginia requires a balanced budget. Kaine tried to raise the taxes, but the Republican Legislature refused. Im not inspired, but the cato institutes david boaz says they are both better than clinton. Really . Thats a low bar. One is a pretty good fiscal conservative who supported the walk war and libya bombing before he opposed. And he signed a law to make it illegal to apply for a marriage license in indiana if you are a gay couple. But neither of them is as corrupt as the other candidates. Neither of them is as sociopath i can as other candidates. Only four got as including pence. Tim kaine when he was governor got a d. Here is pence bragging about how responsible hes been. While the nation suffers under the weight of 19 trillion in National Debt we in indiana have a 2 billion surplus, the highest kret rating in the nation even though we have cut taxes he year since i became governor. To be fair he came in after a pretty responsible governor, mitch daniels. He has been a pretty good governor in fiscal policy. You supported a guest worker program. But the social issues. In the house he said societal collapse was always brought about following the deterioration of marriage and family. He temperatures been very antigay, antigambling. He said to refuels to go to events where alcohol is served without his wife. Apparently hes tempted by many things. John in an indianapolis newspaper. He says build a zone around your marriage. He never diens alone with a woman who is not his wife and i never attend an event where alcohol is served unless karen is there. It shows the way he looks at the world. The world is a dangerous place full of snares and temptations. John hes a hawk who voted for the riewk war. He did reverse himself on that. That went sour fast. But what matters with getting us into war is what your initial instinct is and he did support the iraq war and the libyan intervention. Hillary is bad on free speech, houck i shallness and she is a big spendser. John lets talk about tim kaine. At the Democratic Convention he lavished praise on hillarys position. You can see how shell protect roe versus wade, guarantee equal pay for women and make paid family leave a reality. John spends money, do something thats impossible. The first one threw me, protect roe versus wade. But kaine was antiabortion at one point. Kaine is personally antiabortion. But he never tried to limit it as public policy. John you supported the the Hyde Amendment which supported government funding. He voted to boon smoking in bars and campuses. Near me in arlington,v, there is a restaurants called the liberty tavern. He had the owner of the liberty tavern say we dont support smoking at our tavern and it should be band everywhere. John he doesnt support medical marijuana. He understands virginia is a trading state. He supported tpp. The very week he was named Vice President , he was endorsing the tpp. The other thing he has been good on is insisting its congress right and responsibility to decide whether we go to war. Hes been critical of the democratic president for engaging in war in iraq and syria without getting authorization from congress. Hillary did the say in 2007, she, obama and biden answered a questionnaire and said the president cannot start wars without congressional authorization. But then they got elected. John we are about to get to the third guy, bill weld. I asked on social media, what do you think about the vp pick. He voted not just for the patriot act in the heat of war, but to renew the patriot act even when some republicans were saying lets stop and think about this. John another one on facebook, im puzzled by the weld pick. As a republican go was quite libertarian at least in his rhetoric. He went to the Republican National convention and said i want to get the government out of your pocketbook and out of your bedroom. John on facebook weld is a constitutionalist. What i like is they arent intimidating bullies or shrill liars. I dont know if hes comparing them to previous candidates. They are not another lib tears as i they are not as libertarian as i would like. But they meet a bar other candidates cant meet. The taxing and spending habits remind me of that old definition of a baby. A huge appetite on one end and no responsibility on the other. John do they have any chance of winning . Winning would be difficult for a thirdParty Candidate. If they win three states it goes to the congress. And maybe the republicans and democrats say not these guys, we have an alternative. Sensible, decent, honest. I was sure the public looking at these clinton and trump would say what else is out there. Hillary has a by dollars to spend, and donald trump gets free media connell 24 hours a day. So how do you break into that thats why we havent had a Third Party Candidate elected since 1860. John coming up. Vice president s saying stupid thing like this to a man in a wheelchair. Stand up, chuck, glad the see you. Oh, god love you, what am i talking about . John more on the social conservative who is Donald Trumps running mate. Its time to deny any and all funding to planned the at ally bank, no branches equals great rates. Its a fact. Kind of like bill splitting equals nitpicking. But i only had a salad. It was a buffalo chicken salad. Salad. Ah, my poor mouth breather. Allergies . Stuffy nose . Cant sleep . Enough. Take that. A breathe right nasal strip of course. Imagine just put one on and pow it instantly opens your nose up to 38 more than allergy medicine alone. So you can breathe, and sleep. Better than a catnap. Shut your mouth and say goodnight, mouthbreathers. Breathe right. [announcer] is it a force of nature . Or a sales event . The summer of audi sales event is here. Get up to a 5,000 bonus on select audi models. At ally bank, no branches equals great rates. Its a fact. Kind of like grandkids equals free tech support. Oh, look at you, so great to see you none of this works. Come on in. [ hip olympics 2016, let ] me get you on my level. So you never miss a moment, miss a minute, miss a medal. Why settle when you can have it all . Soccer to wrestling. Track and field to basketball. Fencing to cycling. Diving to balance beam. All you have to say is, show me, and boom its on the screen. From the bottom of the mat, to the couch where you at . Show me the latest medal count . Xfinitys where its at. Welcome to it all. Comcast nbcuniversal is proud to bring you coverage of the rio olympic games. [ clock titime. ] you only have so much. Thats why we want to make sure you wont have to wait on hold. And you wont have to guess when well turn up. Because after all we should fit into your life. Not the other way around. I accept your up have i take to run and serve. John trump picking mike pence as his Vice President ial candidate made social conservatives happy. He doesnt want to legalize even medical mayor washa use. Im not happy with your guy. You want to police my life. It does make me happy. Well talk about each these issues. But mike pence is a reagan conservative. And reagan conservatism was famously built on the three legs of the stool. Economic conservative i am. Social issues, pro family be prolife. And national defendant, a Strong National defense with america in the world. John you say pence will hold hip to good people like that. I thought theley was incredibly encouraging. A lot of what has gone wrong in the country is a bunch of unelected junes telling us what we can do in our businesses and what rules we have to follow and amending the constitution. John pen is known as one of the strongest antiabortion politicians. He signed a bill in indiana banning abortion due to gender and disability. A lot americans say this goes too far. What goes too far is the law as it stand today. Roe versus wade allows abortion for any reason and all reasons, all months of the pregnancy. Mike pence like myself believes all of our children should be welcomed into the world and protected by the law. I want to get back to what you raised your eyebrows about. Even in the case of disability. A Downs Syndrome child has dignity and value and worth. Just like a 90yearold with i i90yearold senilitydoes. Wanting a child to be you te aborted because they are handicapped john these are the Trump Supporters applauding. Governor pence says row v wade i law. But lets not force taxpayers to pay for abortions that some consider murder. The largest Abortion Provider in america should not also be the largest recipient of federal funding under title 10. The type has come to deny any and all funding to planned parenthood of america. John he failed at that. He denied half the funding. The republicans in indiana resisted him. The Republican Party has no short and of cowards at the state level and elsewhere. John why are they cowards . I think a lot of them are afraid of the backlash from the media, and to have a private organize that make profits on aboarding babies stick their hand into taxpayers pockets to subsidize plan the parenthood, its one of the best examples of how much government out of control. John planned parenthood does other work as well. None that isnt done by other groups who dont make a leg by destroying human life. John indiana passed a religious freedom restoration act not forcing people to do thing that conflict with their religious beliefs. Once that law passed media spun it as hostile to gays. Was it a mistake to sign this law . Shutly not. John pence reminded us that bill clinton signed a National Version of the law 20 years before. All the law did was allow for insuring a high level of scrutiny is given any time Government Action impinges on the religious liberty of any american. This avalanche of intolerance thats been poured on our state is outrageous. John outrageous is what he said and he got punished for that. All these businesses came that him. The basketball tournament, the nc tax a. Apple ceo. Businesses saying we are not going to hold conferences in indiana so he backpedaled. That whole movement on dayleftian rights began using a libertarian argument. Live and let live. Whatever someone wants to do in the privacy of their home is up to them, and quickly it has become a movement that survivors and thrives with the iron fist of government. They won the marriage battle. Im sad about that. John im happy about it. I know you are. Im oldfashioned enough to believe that children need mothers and fathers. Back to the main point. As you pointed out, the avalanche of opposition in indiana between both the radical left and big business to force the governor under the threat of taking jobs out of indiana, to amended that law was extraordinary and something that ought to worry libertarians as much as social conservatives and others. John coming up. The Vice President ial candidate the Vice President ial candidate who thick more gun laws will if you suffer from a dry mouth, then youll know how uncomfortable it can be. The Vice President ial candidate who thick more gun laws will but did you know that the lack of saliva can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath . Well, there is biotene, specially formulated with moisturizers and lubricants. Biotene can provide soothing relief and it helps keep your mouth healthy too. Biotene, for people who suffer from a dry mouth. You made with your Airline Credit card. These purchases hold on. You only got double miles on stuff you bought from that airline . Let me show you something better. The capital one venture card. With venture, you earn unlimited double miles on every purchase. Not just. dismissively airline purchases. Every purchase. Everywhere. Every day. No really double miles on all of them whats in your wallet . Im sick to getting to the end of it and not doing anything about it and seeing it happen again and again and again. John that was Vice President ial candidate tim kaine demanding more gun control laws. Both want assault weapons bands. A ban on selling guns to people on the nofly list. All good ideas according to democratic consultant matt bennett. There is no one thing you can do to solve the problem. But there are thing you can do to try to keep the guns out of the wrong hands. Remember that the reason they are not allowed now, back in 2004. John cities were trying to put them out of business like they tried to do with the to b tobaco company. Some vaccine and general Aviation Companies cannot be sued if they do something negligent. This is a serious problem. John do we sue the makers of knives if people stab each other . Or cars . We sue Car Manufacturers all the time. John for defective cars. Your point is right. You cant sue gun makers for ordinary imun crime. Its not their fault its only for gross negligence in the sale of guns to dirty gun dealers and traffickers and people who shouldnt have guns. John we need new gun rules because the shootings are up . There is more of a sandy hook number of murders every day. Most of those are the garden variety. The crisis is getting worse. We have to pass laws to stop it. You have to pass the laws you can to stop it. John can we put the fall in gun homicide rate up . The graph begins with the pass and of the brady act in 1993. John why is it a crisis now . I dont think its a new crisis. Its an ongoing crisis. But its in public consciousness because there has been a string of horrific mass shootings. Thats the way people think about it. If you are on a nofly list you are too dangerous to fly in an airplane, you should be prohibited from buying a weapon. John that includes ted kennedy, cat stevens, the no fly lists are government bureaucracies that get people on there unfairly. You can buy a gun in 90 seconds or less. John arent a Million People on the nofly list . Its about 800,000. But only 2 of them are american citizens or permanent residents who buy guns anyway. John criticism of your candidate. Hes for free trade. The pacific trade deal. I see much in the deal that i like. He at least told the clinton campaign. Pick me, ill oppose it. Sure enough hes picked. He says i oppose the trade deal. This is just prostitution. Thats not a word i would use. Look, when you join a ticket, you join the whole ticket. John why dont you say i dont agree on this one thing but i love her otherwise. The trade deal, there was one division he was uncomfortable with. John abortion, he called himself prolife. Then he gets picked and a clinton official says he will stands with the secretary for a womans right to choose and repeal the Hyde Amendment. The spokesperson got it wrong. Hes a deeply religious catholic. But the fundamental issue on abortion in this campaign is are we going to allow the government to tell women what they can do with their bodies or not . John you do tell women and men what we can do with our bodies. These candidates oppose even medical marijuana legalization. What good are the democrats if they are social conservatives . Thats an issue you have seen evolution on both sides of the aisle. I do think its change. John thank you, matt bennett. Come back later, the audience will get a chance to grill you. The office of vp was thought to be so unimportant, it has been left open for 30 years. Unchain wall street. They are going to put you all back in chains. John when we return, stupid things Vice President s say. I have asthma. One of many pieces in my life. So when my asthma symptoms kept coming back on my longterm control medicine. I talked to my doctor and found a missing piece in my asthma treatment with breo. Oncedaily breo prevents asthma symptoms. Breo is for adults with asthma not well controlled on a longterm asthma control medicine, like an inhaled corticosteroid. Breo wont replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. Breo opens up airways to help improve breathing for a full 24 hours. Breo contains a type of medicine that increases the risk of death from asthma problems and may increase the risk of hospitalization in children and adolescents. Breo is not for people whose asthma is well controlled on a longterm asthma control medicine, like an inhaled corticosteroid. Once your asthma is well controlled, your doctor will decide if you can stop breo and prescribe a different asthma control medicine, like an inhaled corticosteroid. Do not take breo more than prescribed. See your doctor if your asthma does not improve or gets worse. Ask your doctor if 24hour breo could be a missing piece for you. See if youre eligible for 12 months free at mybreo. Com. Music you fill up my senses like a night in a forest like the mountains in springtime like a sleepy blue ocean you fill up my senses come fill me again come let me love you let me always be with you come let me love you come love me again unchain wall street. They are going to put you all back in chains. John Vice President joe biden is known for being gaffe prone. Here he gives a shoutout to a politician who is paralyzed from the waist down. Chuck graham the state senator is here. Stands up. Oh, god love you. What am i talking about. You are making everybody else stand, pal. John the author of the book says joe biden is a punch line. The author is michael malice. Hes on tv all the time. We just pick on his moments. John i just heard him speak at my stuttering group and he was very articulate. He called obama clean and bright. How did he get away with that . The same way the media does. They are telling us Hillary Clinton is the most qualified person to run for president. You have got first mainstream africanamerican who is articulate, bright and clean. Maybe he was talking about the white house. John one other thing bind is known for doing is getting awkwardly touchy with women he hardly knows. Watch what he does to defense secretary ash carters wife while the secretary speaks. Thank you, mr. Vice president , i think you know how much it means to me to have you. John the touching went on for a while. Then there were intimate whispers. We have a lot of thanks to give out, first and foremost to my perfect wife, stephanie. John when the secretary touches his wife, its whats this. He just followed suit. Did i make a gaffe. Am i like a Vice President . You can call me mr. Vice president if you want, mr. Stossel. John ill pass on this. Dan quayle says some strange things. Millions of innocent people lost their lives because of the bigotry and hit lahrism that permeated germany and other parts of the world. It was an obscene in our nations history. Not our nation, but in world war ii. We all lived in this century. I didnt live in this century. He made it through that. My thing about dan quayle is he was the brunts of that famous comment. He said i knew Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson was a friends of mine and governor, you are no Thomas Jefferson. When fdrs second Vice President said there are no other two countries as alike as the United States and the so cents union. Henry wallace was the worst Vice President we ever had. John he was showned gulags, the labor camps. They put on a show for him and gave him a painting to take home which he hung proudly on his mantel. He ran for the presidency in 1948. John sarah palin became the brunt of jokes for saying this. John you can see russia from her lands. So it became part of the caricature of sarah palin. I can see russia from my house. John she never said her house. Her biggest gaffe came in her book going rogue. She said her daughter asked her mother why dont you ever cry. And said if this were a murder mystery, this would be the sociopath. John al gore once said this. During my service in the United States congress i took the initiative in creating the internet. John thank you, al, enjoying your internet. Fewer people know that when gore was given a tour of Thomas Jeffersons home he didnt recognize some of the more famous founders. John were democrats dont get the dan quayle and sarah palin treatment. Ronald reagan, dan quayle, there will always be somebody they attack. Now we have a president ial candidate no one can say is dumb, donald trump. John coming up, more mocking of Vice President s. When president eisenhower was asked as Richard Nixons contributions as Vice President. He replied. If you give me a week, i might think of one. [applause] at ally bank, no branches equals great rates. Its a fact. Kind of like bill splitting equals nitpicking. But i only had a salad. It was a buffalo chicken salad. Salad. At ally bank, no branches equals great rates. Its a fact. Kind of like grandkids equals free tech support. Oh, look at you, so great to see you none of this works. Come on in. John when john adams was Vice President , he said my country contrived for me the most insignificant office that ever in the invention of man contrived. He was complaining. But to me a politician not doing much is a good thing. Calvin coolidge responded i suppose i will have to. Todays ambitious politicians are never so reluctant. They are desperate for power and attention. Given that, audience, what are your thoughts about this years Vice President ial choices. My guests are eager to take your questions. Who is first . If you were facing the prospect the election could be thrown to the congress. The 12th amendment says the house can choose the top three, and the senate chooses from the top two to be Vice President. What are the prospects of a mixed the party white house . If that happened and the democrats took control of the senate and the republicans held on to the house of representatives. And the republican members of congress did not come to their senses and realize they cannot make donald trump president. Then you could get people from both parties. Ill state tim kaine will not serve as Vice President to donald trump. We wont have to worry about this because trump will win without it being a tie going anywhere. Historically the republicans have been the party of free trade. What do you think about Donald Trumps high tariffs and how that would affect americans who want to buy cheap products. As you know, you are obviously a smart young moon. He hasnt put tariffs on anything. All he said is the trade deals of recent years have not been negotiated in a way thats beneficial to the United States. John but hes promised 35 tariffs. He cant promise 35 tariffs. He said if he cant get better deals, he will have to do what he can to protect american workers. With ross perot getting 19 person in 1992. Who do you think it hurt, trump or clinton . Who will the libertarian hurt . Con havingal wisdom going toib the process is serious libertarian ticket would hurt the Republican Party. The evidence so far in the polls i have seen is that when the Libertarian Party is added in the mix, that Hillary Clinton loses more support than donald trump does. John this brings up a question from social media. Mark tweeted what are the changes of gary johnson getting into the debate . Getting into the debates requires 15 . Thats just an arbitrary true set by a Bipartisan Commission whose goal it is to keep alternative Party Candidate out of the race. So johnson is at 8 in the arms right now. So 15 is a very high bar, nobody has gotten that in my lifetime except ross perot. So i think it is a very tough thing to get, and unless gary johnson can find a lot more money or a lot more media attend than he has so far. Its a tough road to who. John point be good to hear from a third choice . One the tenets of libertarianism is we should be able to do anything we want as long as we dont do any harp to others. How do they justify that with a baby in the womb. Why arent remember tearians prolife in defense of that baby in the womb . Some are. More are prochoice because they regard it as a womans right to control her body and the unborn child is not a person, a citizen, how you want to define it. But there are libertarians who are prolife. We talked about the left and right side of the aisle. But there is also the 40su choice. The jill stein side of the house. John jill stein is basically Bernie Sanders plus social i am. Plus 200. Jill stein is so far outside the liberal mainstream i dont think shell generate the support of johnson. If you run into democrat, even curb them to vote for jill stein. She is a solid alternative. John are Vice President s useless . Vice president s themselves have complained, im the most unimportant man in washington. And being Vice President is the thing that ever happened to me. But one president ial candidate says his Vice President make his better. [applause] if i got to go to college, oh my goodness. I just feel like that is my destiny. You get to make like a supernova of skill or talent or whatever it is. My name is queen, and i am your dividend. John right now the Vice President ial pick seemed like a big deal. Some people say a wellbalanced ticket with the right vp from a swing state can change the outcome of the election. Except they cant couple with any type this happened. Maybe its because most of us dont think much about Vice President s and vps dont do much. One month before john mccain chose sarah palin to be his running mate, she was asked what would you do if mccain asked you to be his Vice President ial running mate. I cant answer that until someone answers for me, what is it the vp does he every day. John one of fdrs vps says being Vice President wasnt worth a pitcher of warm spit. But 15 of them become president. And 5 become president ial nominees. As much as we mock some of them. Vice president s matter. One Vice President ial candidate says his Vice President is critical. Beyond my wildest imagine nation, weld is my running mate. John johnson says weld is my running mate and makes me better. Johnson and weld in the oval office would be much better than both trump and clinton. Why everyone doesnt realize that, i dont get. Maybe voters still dont know who they are. When i asked people in times square, most didnt. I never heard of gary johnson. Have you heard of gary johnson . I have not. John maybe the president ial Debate Commission will allow the libertarian candidate into the debate, then people will wake up and realize we have a better choice. I keep hoping. Thats our show. Thanks for watching. Xaxaxaxaxax stay tune for after the show show. Newly released Hillary Clinton emails. Igniting a new controversy on the campaign trail. Donald trump accusing her of pay to play when she was secretary of state. Is he right . Or are both sides guilty of playing the same money game. Hi, everybody. Im Dagen Mcdowell in for brenda buttner. This is bulls and bears. The bulls and bears this week, gary b. Smith, jonas ferris, John Layfield and Kathy Lynn Taylor and o is there any way to get rid of pay to play. There is. Different term lengths for congress, term lengths, election process and greater