Attack saying the u. S. Will do whatever is necessary to help. Vice president mike pence also condemning the attacks. The United States condemns this terror attack and well do whatever is necessary to help. Whatever inspired todays terror attack. The United States stands ready to assist the people. Spain and find and punish those responsible. On this dark day, our prayers and the prayers of all the American People are with the victims, their families, and the good people of spain. Gerri find and punish those responsible. And news within the past hour that this is linked to an explosion yesterday. Joining us is former fbi assistant director bill gavin. One moment las ramblas is a pedestrian thoroughfare, people are shopping, crowd with summer tourists, and the next moment its carnage. How do we keep this from happening in our country . Its so difficult, i dont know if its possible to keep it from happening. We do everything we can in terms of intelligence and Police Training and playing better in the spanned box than we in the sandbox than we used to. But it will happen sooner or later. You cant stop every single one of these things. It looks like this is probably a cell, and they have to determine how many people are involved. Explosions in two different homes. One yesterday, one today. Driving down that boulevard might have been a an i am improvization on the part of the driver. Gerri you said this could be a cell. Dont we track these people and know who they are and where they are coming from and what they are doing . How hard is it to keep up with these folks . Extremely hard to keep up with these folks. If the cell is extremely small, its very, very difficult to keep up with them. Had they been overseas or training in syria or iraq or iran . It might be easier to find them coming and going from the country. But if its selfperpetuated and guide through their horrendous acts and conduct in country, its difficult to keep track of these people. You bring up a good point. If these people are traveling across the borders, arent they easier to track. I think borders should mean something. But in europe they dont mean that much, do they . Its easy to travel country to country. These people went and got training, and they are citizens of spain. They dont have to they dont have to go through a lot to get back into the United States if they wanted to travel that way. Thats an alarming thought. Gerri i wanted to mention a few details we are just getting from a police conference. 13 are dead and 100 injured. Two people are detained. One is a moroccan and another is a spanish national. There is a mysterious explosion apparently that set this all off. Cnn is asking the question, is this a copycat of charlottesville. What do you think of that. Here in boston we have a big demonstration in boston, thats where copycats concern she. But over there copycat. I dont know if they were planning to put those explosives within that van. I dont know. That has to be fleshed out. One blew up yesterday and one blew up today. They get a lot of examining to do to find out how that all happened and who is involved in those homes. Gerri it makes you so angry to hear about this. I want to bring in the rest of the panel. I want to bring in paul violsa within mike baker. You say this well planned. No question about that. They are using vehicles as a weapon of mass destruction. Its not like they are trying to buyers that would send regular flags out to alert Law Enforcement. They are simply renting a vehicle. They are look at certain areas that they know populate to a certain amount of tourists at a certain time of day. Gerri michael, what stops me from going out and renting a car and doing the same damn thing. Sorry, didnt mean to say that on tv. The threshold for having some kind of intelligence. You need a credit card. Thats all you need. Think is where it been moving to for quite some time. This last summer, think about the attacks we have had between nice and stockholm. This happens in other areas as well. Terrorist operations when they become wise to our communications intercepts capability. We cup those down to these handwritten note. They are doing the same thing with resources. And the concept of stay where you are. Now its stay where you are. Do what you can. Do what you can in term of resources. Gerri im sorry to interrupt you. We want to get to a reporter here. Sit tight. Amy kellogg is joining me from milan. Reporter just to recap on the story we have been following all day about the terrorist attack in barcelona and the van who nowed into people when they were strolling on the storied las ramblas. Catalonia Officials Say its expected to rise. 100 people were injured. Two people are in difficult but it doesnt appear either of the men is the driver of the van. The van did run at great speed. It traveled for some distance into people around 5 00 this afternoon prime time on a beautiful summer afternoon for people to be out and about, shopping, having a cocktail. The driver then fled. People were told by police to run or hunger down to stores they were in, the steel gates came down. Some took refuge in churches. Those were panicky moments for hundreds if not thousands of people hanging back and not knowing exactly what was going on. There was enormous fear and panic. One of the two pen who was arrests is Driss Oukabir from morocco. Its not known what cell he may or may not have been involved in. He wasnt the driver but Police Believe hes connected to this attack. A couple other fast and curious developments. Police said an explosion that killed one person outside of barcelona look like it might have been connected or was likely connected to the attack on the ramblas. A bombmaking factory is a suggestion many are making. Also a car heading out of barcelona shortly after the attack. Police attempted to stop it. It rammed into police. It continued for miles. Police caught up with it. Shot the driver dead. No police were injured in that attack, but its not clear if its connected to event of earlier in the day of barcelona or not. Grim moments today and a death toll at 15, likely to rise. 100 people injured and an investigation that seems to have a long way to go. We are going to go back now to our panel. I interrupted you. I want you to respond to something cnn is saying. Imjust curious, some folks saying that maybe this is a copycat to what went on in charlottesville. Well, i suppose at the 30,000 foot level, its a vehicle, its a crowd and it results in death. So maybe thats they are referring to. I dont think so. This is a copycat of what the radical islamists, the extremists have been doing for quite some time. 8 People Killed in nice. In berlin in the christmas market. We have seen it in london and stockholm. This is what they do. To try to politicize it and say this is what charlottesville caused is insane. I dont know how to answer that question. Gere require sounds like we have full agreement from the panel on that. Isis is claiming responsibility for this. Is there any question at this point . Absolutely not. Al qaeda put this in the play become a long long time ago. So this is no surprise. They put it in a magazine and called upon all jihadists to use vehicles as a weapons. Mass destruction. Isis has been taking a piece out of that playbook for a long time. This is low risk on the planning side and there is no surprise. Gerri apparently this is the deadliest attack in spain since 2004 when 192 people died. You remember that commuter train bombing that was so horrific. Today in barcelona, what they were doing is cordoning off the streets. But that only works for so long. Eventually its a western society. People are going to congress grow gait in open in public. What does this mean for our cities Going Forward . It make it difficult for Law Enforcement to control the coming and going of people. But we live in a democracy. You have to have people free and doing what they want to do. If we pen people up and tell them they can only go certain places at certain times. Thats exact hi what we do when we play into the terrorists hands. We cannot do that. This whole thing with cars now as a vehicle of choice or execution. Usually some of the past things they have done, run into the crowd and come out with weapons. If in fact the explosion in the homes, yesterday and some today, if those explosives were to be used in the van, that again shows what the whole panel has been saying, this is a playbook exercise for them and its going to lead to horrific events in the future, too. Gerri i hate to think that, but i fear you are right. Michael, doing research all afternoon long. There is a story about Maritime Rescue Service saving 600 migrants trying to cross the mediterranean over the past 24 hours. This is what goes on in europe all the time. The borders are porous. People are moving all the time. Does the United States have to secure their borders to prevent this from happening . We have an absolute right to know who is coming in. I dont know why that would be such an angstfilled statement for people to process. The state department has a difficult job to do. We dont do a good job of vetting people who come from wartorn infrastructures. Gerri panel, thank you for your time. We appreciate it. Up next we are hearing from an eyewitness to the attack. Stay with us. Eautiful moments. Switch to flonase allergy relief. Flonase outperforms the 1 nondrowsy allergy pill. When we breathe in allergens, our bodies react by overproducing 6 key inflammatory substances that cause our symptoms. Flonase helps block 6. Most allergy pills only block one and 6 is greater than 1. With more complete relief you can enjoy every beautiful moment to the fullest. Flonase. 6 is greater than 1 changes everything. The dinosaurs extinction. Got you outnumbered. Dont listen to them. Not appropriate. Now im mashing these potatoes with my stick of butter. Why dont you sit over here. Find your awesome with the Xfinity Stream app. Included with xfinity tv. More to stream to every screen. Gere report terror attack in barcelona pushed to bees to lows. There is concern over whether gary cohn will stay in his job and the economic agenda of the administration. I want to show that screen one more time. So take a look at the market diving on the idea that gary cohn might leave it comes back a little when the white house says it wont happen. Then we have the barcelona attack where the market takes a real dive. Whats going none the markets. What do the markets care about at this point . We were in lalaland for so long, nothing could hit these markets. Now every headline is having an impact. The market seemed to dismiss earlier events. Even amid the earlier reporting and the tensions in virginia. It has been compounding on the market. Now we see the continued unrest within the white house. Gerri sorry we have to go to a breaking story. You hang on, lindsey. They are at this moment our priority. I wish to ex press solidarity of all of spain with the city of barcelona who was hit by the Jihadist Terrorism like other cities were before around the world. The neighbors of places like madrid, paris, nice, brazil, berlin have lived the same pain and uncertide. I want to express the expression of solidarity of all of spain and the rest of the world. As testimony of the nation of spain of this criminal attack, the government is creating an official mourning for three days during which the flag will be dressed out in all the buildings. Barcelona received the expression of solidarity at other moments. We have shared with other cities and other countries hit by the same barbarian terrorism. I wish to say also that we are not only united in mourning, we are most of united in the knowledge strong will united in the strong will to those who want to take away our lifestyle and values. I show them my support in their deliberations with the police of barcelona facing this savage terrorist attack. Its important that in a hard and sad day like today, all the security organizations and intelligence services, similar protection, emergencies and all who keep our security with the firm support of the government, and all the spanish people. Its true that today we are suffering the pain of a terrible strike. But its also true that the work of these men and women all these years managed to protect us for a long time and also to break other terrorist plans. They will keep doing this in if the future. Unfortunately the spanish know the absurd International Pain terrorism causes. We suffered attacks like this during our recent history. But we also know we can win over terrorists. We can win with our institutions and the prevention and International Support and to defend the values. Democracy, freedom, human rights. Gerri you have been listening to the Prime Minister of spain, mariano rajoy. He says we are united in our strong will to oppose the terrorists. He called it barbarian and is decrying what happened on the streets of that beautiful city today. Well have more. Be right back. Times up, insufficient prenatal care. And administrative paperwork. Your days of drowning people are numbered. 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Because spain is a visawaiver country, they dont need a special visa or preclearance to enter United States, u. S. Officials are trying to determine whether the suspects in spain were known to us. We had blocks in the system to prevent them from entering the United States, or they radicalized beneath the radar and were unknown to us and spanish authorities. We have had a claim of responsibility from isis through its official news agency, they were responsible for the attack in barcelona, but that does not tell us the whole story, there are three options. The individual were self radicalized, or consumers of isis pro propaganda online, a second. Is that this was a plot that was crafted by isis. Individuals in spain were directed remotely by the terror group, likely in syria or perhaps libya. A third 07tio option that isis is trying to capitalize on violence in barcelona today. Catherine, i know you are having a busy night, i have a question for you, earlier we were showing picture of a suspect quite a bit on both fbn and fox news, 1 then we were told not to focus on that person. Reporter this suspect was identified by Spanish Authority as a spanish citizen, who was born in north africa. And it was his name that was associated with the rental of the white van that was used to plow down the pedestrians in barcelona, after his picture circulated on internationally television, he contacted local police where he lives, said. I am not in bers lona today barcelona today, i did not rents that van, i think i am the victim of identity theft, i think my younger brother may have been the one that took my papers and rented that white van, the key is that two people are in custody. But Spanish Police said at their News Conference that neither of them was the author of the attack. We think based on the translation citizen driver of the success, the person who mowed down almost 100 people, 13 dead. 90 severely injured, still on the loose, that is concerning because you have a High Pressure situation for a suspect in a terrorism attack. His intention may have been to die in this attack. And you have to assume they may be willing to die if they are cornered by police. Gerri wow, Catherine Herridge, zigzagging through the crowd, it really, it is appalling, we appreciate you bringing the details to us, thank you so very were. Reporter youre welcome. Gerri top leadership has been fired from uss fitzgerald, collided with a cargo ship on june 17, 7 sailors died, at some point the bridge team lost situation at awareness. Sad story. Later in the show we look at todays hardest hit market sectors, and well ask a former director from fbi how former director from fbi how safe we are at home in the u. S. Of a, stay with us. 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Go your own way get your first prescription free at anoro. Com. Gerri todays terrorist attack in pars barcelona, latest in string of attacks, committed by a driver running down pedestrians with a vehicle. How safe are we at home, bill gavin joining me again, i was reading that nypd, they are out their tonight, protecting us, deploying their Critical Response command, Hercules Team and people at spanish consulate and spanish mission, is that enough. Nothing is ever enough. Law enforcement and intelligence agencies within our country do a fantastic job. Because there is so much more cooperation than before. But with that said. We have to remember that if these individuals in spain were either selfradicalized or directed thrunet net, the through the internet and they got away with what they did today, it could happen in United States, one of these days were going to be so bogged down with over the top social and Political Correctness it will get us. We have to balance Political Correctness. Gerri you see it every day. They give us warnings all of time, right . Al qaeda and their magazine they give to people. They say, were blotting against trains, well you know put a bomb in a train, and in a individual car. Try to blow up the track. Is that what is next, here . That could conceivably be next. Look at our railway, i have said this a number of times, going from boston to new york. From into penn station. It is not a difficult task to leave something in the overhead rack, get off in stanford and have it go off in penn station. It does not have to be a terrific explosion, it just has to be an explosion. Now you had some maybe disastrous material with it. You might get out of a hospital, you have trouble. Gerri i want to interrupt for a moment. Were waiting for the Vice President , mike pence, to start speaking with president in panama. Well go right to them, he may have comments to hear on the barcelona, attack, bill. I start by asking, are we safe . What do we need to do . About what are next steps here . What, in your view, is there anything were missing . Do you think that there is anything that the u. S. Can do to help bar barcelona to help spain to track the folks down. Were doing a terrific job within our country, i know that we did ae terrific job with our ally overseas be we share intelligence with these people. And they share with us. That is the only way were going to keep on top of this whole situation, is the constant sharing and talking. Trying to look over the horizon all of the time, keep the high gain antenna up to listen to what people are saying. But it is impossible to do 100 of the time. We have been fortunate and very good at what we do in this country, i am afraid of what may happen in future. Gerri i have to applaud, you live in new york city, you see Police Effort here it is impressive. There is snow doubt, they have done a fabulous job, i have a lot of confidence in them. They are doing the very best job that can be done. But i remain concerned and worried that at some point this gets out of hand. We were talking earlier about how in western culture, having freedom of movement is key to the way our Society Works and being american you expect to be able to go where you want to go, do what you want to do. Do you worry that what goes in a city like barcelona and london and you name it in europe, could have a constraining effect here at home . It that is always as o possibility, another important thing we have not talked about. We talk about Police Agency and intelligence. There is one thing that much more important all that, that is us our citizens, new york has done a marvelous job at getting that whole concept out, if you see something, say something. I can remember the day you wall walk down the street, you saw something you put your head down you kept ongoing, now that does not happen. People say something. Gerri even more you feel a comrade, i think, in new york city or the subway in a taxi walking down the street, people are aware, i think. Im not sure it is that way in the rest of the country, i dont know if that kind of presence, state of mind is happening everywhere. And i think you have to have experience with it for that to happen. How do we remain ready all of the time . What does it take . We need to talk about it more, you are right on target, a great comment, we need to talk more about it. Get more people involved. Millions of additional eyes that can see something, ears that hear things and can put into the equation to help us prevent some sort of a catastrophic event in United States is what will save us. We need to spread that feeling through the country. Gerri bringing in a couple other gif guests. As we await the prisoner panama. Chris. Were talking about how do we keep ourselves safe, what is the missing link . You have been listening and thinking you want to get your two cents in. What do you think . Two observations to make, first we should never accept prems they terrorist attack premise that terrorists are inevitable and unpreventable. I am wary of this idea that we have to somehow accept a current level of terrorism we have to accept, we do not, we can defeat it. On other hand, it seems that in nearterm, in europe, the agents and Law Enforcement do not have a handle on this just yet, i think as Islamic State continue its geographic collapse, the problem will get worse. As they lose territory, they will call in supporters, instead of coming to heartland, stay where they are in europe, and conduct the individual attacks. We should never accept premise that this is inevitable. Gerri i agree, and drew, do andrew do you agree with this idea, this cannot be the same old same old, happening again, we cant let this be the new normal. I agree. Islamic terrorism is a product of specific historical circumstances that began in early 1980s, like the iranian revolution, jihad against the soviet in afghanistan, and certain policy decisions made in saudi arabia, 40 years later were now under siege by a whole array of groups of which isis is just one. So i think addressing the structural fracture as chris said it necessary to move forward to solve some symptoms of the underlying disease. Gerri were awaiting a press conference with the Vice President , pence, he is with the president of panama in an panama. The meantime, bill, isis does so well they motivate, and encor encourage and nurture these people do we need to do that. They are atthispoint, i think that United States and educational system in our Law Enforcement system is trying best to do that to radicalization, is something a little bit different in their approach to what they do to make people do bad things. We have to look at how we keep people on the right track doing the correct thing. Family is so important to keep people straight and narrow to do the right thing. So membership of these cases we see, individuals that have all right well be right back, we have to take a break, i am sorry, we have to go. Chael a ford guy. Potsch then i have a real treat for you today. Michael awesome. Potsch im going to show you a next generation pickup. Michael lets do this. Potsch this new truck now has a cornerstep built right into the bumper. Gary super cool. Potsch the bed is made of highstrength steel, which is less susceptible to punctures than aluminum. Jim aluminum is great for a lot of things, but maybe not the bed of a truck. Potsch and best of all, this new truck is actually gary all laughing oh my. Potsch the current chevy silverado. Gary im speechless. Gary this puts my ford truck to shame. James ill tell you, i might be a chevy guy now. laughing gerri we join Vice President pence, saying this is a tragic day, speaking out at president at palace in panama city. Victims, family and all good people of spain. This latest attack, worst terror attack on spanish soil since 2004 madrid train bombings. Shows us that radical islamic terrorism is one of greatest threats that we face today. Isis has taken credit for this barbaric attack, whoever is responsible should know, that the United States of america, together with our allies, will find and punish those responsible, and drive the evil of radical islamic terror from the face of the earth. As i told you, President Trump and i are truly grateful. For panamas participation in our globalc global, coalition to defeat isis. We call on our partner to follow panama example of leadership and join this global, coalition. Mr. President were grateful for your commitment to this cause, your partnership and warm hospitally hav hospitality you have shown me and my wife on our first visit to panama. It is honor to be welcome by you and Vice President to panama and beautiful palacio de las garzas. I am here on President Trumps behalf. To reaffirm historic friendship between the United States and panama. And to commit to strengthening our partnership, in security and prosperity for the continued benefit of our people, our nations and the hemisphere we call home. Mr. President , were with you. The United States of america stands with panama as we pursue a Brighter Future together. Nearly 114 years ago, the United States was first country in world to recognize panama as an independent nation. Gerri you have been listening to mike pence, in panama speaking, well be right back. Dont let dust and allergens get between you and lifes beautiful moments. Switch to flonase allergy relief. 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Mcmaster has been pushing donald trump to not say or say less, but here comes mike pence out with a very strong statement. It shows how important the administration views this issue. Gerri chris . Yes, a lot of things that need to happen, Vice President pence covered, that. Terminology will be in constant flux. Were never going to address the root cause if we dont understand history of it more than terminology, i agree some good stuff was said, i did not realize this was biggest attack on spanish soil in 2004. I lumped spain in with other attacks going on, with france and elsewhere, this is a sad reminder is always comes back and captures everyone in western europe. Gerri i want to ask, andrew, Vice President pence, everyone in administration lining up today, are they speaking with one voice in your view . I think they are. And i think what makes the situation somewhattur urgent. Is that spain is uniquely vulnerable to this kind of attack. 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Know your surroundings, and understand a lot of times the random abts o acts of violence, you cant stop them, you have to know how to act in the moment, get out of the way of an approaching vehicle, identify who is driving give authority as much information, it based on situational awareness. Gerri bill. You have been great, what else to we need to know . I agree with michael. Those are you have to have that situational awareness, when you are overseas, you know you dont go, in some country, if you are in israel you dont go someplace where there is a demonstration, you be careful about standing in line for buses and things like that. That is not intuitively known, and bringing our students over there playing baseball uptodate, that is important. But we all have to have that antenna up and i think with the Vice President just said, making that commitment all of our allies have complete commitment of the United States. I know that the fbi has legal attaches in spain that can reach back to tool box of fbi and help out any of the country or any time they need to be helped. Providing forensic help, we have to keep on living our lives, but as mike said we need our antenna up at alltimes. Gerri i appreciate that, keep the antenna up. Mike, out of this investigation going toward . Days and weeks ahead, what happens . Most interesting thing is that he went to police, said i am not the guy who did this, here did not want to get caught or he has information on this, there is a lot that will come out in next 24 to 48 hours, he and his brother are key. I would say, if you are traveling overseas, wait until you get home to post your photos on twitter and facebook. Thank you for joining me, we have two hours of lou dobbs, live coming up stay with us. You will want to hear every wor word. I am greg jarrett in for lou dobbs, we begin with breaking news out of barcelona, spain, a suspect ramming his rented van into a crowd of pedestrians on the citys most famous avenue, killing 13 people, injuring hundred or more. Isis claiming responsibility, police are saying, it was terrorism. And intended to kill as membership peoplmany people as possible. Fox news correspondent amy is live with our report