Desperately trying to get to yes. Charles where does the vote go from here . Kelly, let me start with you. Sean spicer says we get a vote today. We knew there was a lot of drama behind the scenes. What does it mean now . Its a messy bill and a messy Healthcare System we are under now. The Affordable Care act was written with the intention. Making it hard to repeal and replace. There are entrenched entitlements that we have to deal with. He said you compare the house votes with rocket launches. If something goes wrong and there is a glitch in the system you shut it down. The worst thing to happen was for it to go to a vote and get shot down. Charles maybe it second worst thing was scheduling a vote thinking you had it in the first place. This is a mess because the republicans arent doing what they had told their voters they would do for 7 years. We have been screaming from the mountaintop that well repeal obamacare. Th we have our guy in the white house and the Republican Party will not put a bill on his desk that actually repeals obamacare. I think this is unworkable short of that. Charles you have the he special benefits. You have got tax credits, which is a de facto subsidy, and other parts of the bill that are basically obamacare. They are still in therite for name. You have got some congressmen who have drawn a fine the sand and say we cant go there. The bill gets rid of the penalties, but contains more entitlements. Paul ryan needs 22 votes to get this thing out. But i wonder, this will as it stands now if this negotiation continues will only get more conservative. If democrats wanted to stop this thing from becoming a more conservative bill, they would give 22 votes to paul rienl right now, but they are not. Ed the democrats can prevent this thing from getting any more conservative. Charles peter bans is in washington, d. C. With the latest. A white house spokesperson is saying expect the votes on the legislation to start tomorrow. No confirmation from speaker ryan and his team who have been meeting with fellow republicans today, and with white house officials tonight at the capital at this hour. House republicans are planning to neat behind closed doors at 7 00 tonight to discuss the path forward for the legislation after the conservative members of the Freedom Caucus net with the president at the white house today. The president is wrapping up a meeting with the conservatives about their concerns. Thats to try to get them all on the same page when to start the process of considering the legislation and perhaps start whipping up votes. Charles who blinks here . If we get a vote on it tomorrow, im so confused if why the divide was this large to begin with. It seems everyone was wedded to their positions. You would have to think it would be paul ryan, but im not sure. I dont think my buddies on the Freedom Caucus are going to blink. Like me, they ran for congress not to tweak obama care, not to fix it or revise sit. They ran to repeal it. Thats what they told their voters for 7 years. They put a bill on obamas desk a year and a half ago to repeal obamacare. We have our guy trump in the white house and they dont put a bill on his desk. It makes no sense. Charles President Trump got us here. And President Trump was able to get democrats to fall on his sword and sacrifice their political careers. So the republicans are in a jam. Is part of the rich to republicans who are still a no on this, you need to take one for the team right now and your constituents will understand. Maybe they wont, but its something you need to do. The Freedom Caucus is the conscience of the Republican Party. This is not 2009 anymore. This obamacare has been in place and there is automatic entitlements. So to think you could automatically repeal this without consequences. Especially for republicans in more moderate districts is sacrificing. Its perfect is the enemy of the good here. This is a good bill in that it does lower taxes. 800 billion in new taxes. It reduces the deficit. It also rediewtss Government Spending by 1. 2 trillion. If this bill were to go into effect it would be the largest government reform in three decades. Republicans to look to build on that and get this enacted and get the momentum rolling. The most important thing on President Trumps desk is tax reform. Charles joe, it looks like you want to respond. Kelly is right that its difficult to get rid of this entitlement. But thats how the Freedom Caucus guys feel now. If we dont get rid of this entitlement now, obamacare will be with us forever. Charles im not sure its a quoteunquote good bill. For all the things promised on the campaign trail and what voters expected, its already an entitlement, it will become even more of an entitlement, particularly for republican voters. If you dont get rid of it now, is there a chance these folks get together and say lets relook at this and go back to the drawing board. Obamacare was passed on this day and i think they thought they would get a symbolic victory out of this. A good bill probably would have included speaking to the republicans in the house first and come to a consensus. In a lot of ways this was a botched rollout for the first piece of legislation the Trump Administration was going to back. I think here the house Freedom Caucus seems to have all the leverage and any opponent of the business in a strong position of getting some concessions. Charles does it sound to you like mark meadows makes or breaks this . Members of his caucus need to vote for this bill. Are you going to vote with nancy pelosi on the first major legislative battle for President Trump with the house. And you are going to vote for nancy pelosi. You are going to vote for her and against the president who helped bring you into office . If we back off and try to do this right. Next year premiums go to President Trump go to president obama. But dont they carry the weight of it from here on out. All the negatives . Yes, they will be losers anyway. If they dont pass anything, them suffer the continues of that. Its bert they pass something, and start tweaking it. Becaus they delay it, the endaets delayed and within we cant gover i think we come out looking the losers. Charles i always questioned the timeline and why this had to come first. A lot of folks who know how the inner workings go said you could have cut taxes first. We could be taking in bid and ready to break ground. Is it possible to shelf this and get some of the other parts of the agenda in . If im trump i tear whole thing up and sit down with a sheet of paper and 8 diverse members of the house and try to start something new. If i cant do that, i shelf the whole thing and go to tax cuts and tax reform in a heart beat. Charles do you think they go over the weekend with this . I know this was an artificial date and there would have been symbolism to it. Do you think it will stretch out over the weekend . So many of the thing they are debating is because their opinion isnt of the mandates baked into what type of coverage people receive are nonstarters. Its hard for me to see how we are going to get a vote on this tomorrow in light of the fact that the house Freedom Caucus has been unmoveable on those questions. I think there is a high probability this goes through the weekend, even though the house is in session now. Charles, you nailed it. Thats why i love ya. This is our only chance 0 get rid of this entitlement. Thats how the caucus gu feel. Charles i do, too. I want to see President Trump get a victory, but i dont know that we sacrifice one fifth of the economy to do so. Coming up, the healthcare battle continues. 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If you go with this ryan bill, you will have trouble in the midterm elections. Was that a smart move . I have to applaud the groups for standing on principle. Im not a fan of the healthcare bill. If we are not going to fulfill our promise to actually repeal obamacare, then what are we doing here . The broader conversation instead of trying to do the blame game, talk about actually conservatives are united around more issues than ever, whether its gorsuch or passing through. Healthcare is the number one issue with the most visibility. We should have done tax cuts. But as far as these groups that are backed by the Koch Brothers i applaud them for standing on principle. If we dont get rid of the subsidy, we may never get rid of it. Charles congressman Louie Gohmert said the blame game has begun. You may get a bad tweet and see someone come after you. Its obviously on both sides. But i think your organization is backed by the Koch Brothers. Was it smart of them to be so out front with this . Its putting serious pressure on the Republican Party when they should be riding high. We do not exist to compliment the Republican Party. We hold politicians accountable to the promises they made. This bill leaves in portion the cadillac tax, the medicaid expansion. We want to applaud conservatives to stand on principle and fight for full repeal. Charles their first major effort to govern in washington, d. C. , and they blew it, are you concerned about that . All we say is do what you promised. The bill we are looking for them to pass they passed once before in the senate and they passed it duds of times in the house. A clean repeal bill. On thing that changed is there is a president in the white house to sign it into law. Doing what you promised means repealing obamacare. This bill doesnt do it. Lets move forwa and dwhat they have been promisior 7 years. Charles as soon as this was crafted the whispers became a chorus that paul ryan was leading donald trump down the wrong path. There are a lot of the people who think it many intentional. Do you think it relies too much on paul ryan in this particular case . Possibly. I think there is a great point that was made. Why were the house republicans, Senate Republicans so quick to repeal obamacare before President Trump and now they dont want to do that. It would beg the question, was that political posturing in the past and they just wanted to run on that so they could get reelected . Thats the question here. What they are trying to replace this with, its obamacare light. It keeps a lot of subjects does and taxes in place. It doesnt allow healthcare insurance to be brought against state lines. I think President Trump campaigned on a clean repeal on obamacare and i believe he yield to paul ryan on this. I think the Trump Administration will be likely to sign a clean repeal if it were put on his desk. The American People demanded this in an uproar in november. If congress ignores that it could continue to break the divisions in the Republican Party with decades throng rollifications. Charles guys, thank you both have much. There is also a new battle over immigration. But this one on the h1b visas. The chitect, a democrat, admitting the program has been hijacked. Hes next. Charles new questions about whether americans are losing out on good jobs due to the h1b visa. The plan was designed to attract talented immigrants so they would come to america to work. But the man who wrote it in the 1990s, bruce morrison, is with us to discuss it. You were on 60 minutes, and this revelation of sorts echoed throughout my social media and a lot of people saying there is a democrat essentially saying they hear so Many Americans saying particularly americans with stem education, science, engineer, economics and math. When we developed it, we were squeezing the program and tightening it up and trying to move people into a Green Card Program that protects american workers. In 1998 the numbers were increased dramatically that leads to easy outsource of american jobs. Its only gotten worse since 1998 as more and more companies are using it. There are simple ways we can deal with that in order to stop that outsourcing. Charles Silicon Valley says americans just dont have the skills and there is no other choice but to go outside of the country and find the talent. Thats nonsense. Americans do have the skills. Americans exercising those skills are laid off. There may be shortages, but this isnt the way to deal with them. E shortages are to make sure americans get the first shot at the job. Charles i tried to study this. There are carveouts for students. Now there is a major push by Silicon Valley in d. C. Lobbying to expand it further. Is it do you think its unpatriotic on their part and if they see a crisis why wouldnt they contribute money for the reeducation of americans. You dont need necessarily a 4year degree for some of these jobs. These are blue collar jobs to get people working. Employers have a habit of want to go flood the workplace with a supply of labor to help keep the price down. That may be natural but its not Something Congress or the government should be part of the. I think we have solutions and those solutions involve using green cards instead of guest worker program. Green cards work better because those people cant be exploited. And we should keep the numbers where they meet the shortage. Charles with respect to americans who might just need a little bit of training for some of the lower entry jobs, we get the jobs report out from the federal government and they say there are literally millions of jobs going begging at this moment. What role do you think Silicon Valley should be using. We should collect fees for the immigration. If we have shortages we should try to fill them. We should not let there be huge vacancies that you under cut our productivity. But its easier to finds a shortage when you dont want to finds the people available. Charles its refreshing to somev some to have someone who was in the swamp who comes out to say i want to alert the public, something has gone wrong. Shocking details on the assailant behind the london terror attack. How do we eventually defeat socalled homegrown tear him. Next. This is the silverado special edition. This is one gorgeous truck. Oh, did i say theres only one special edition . Because, actually theres five. 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We have seen it over, people who work with these folks, saying we did birthday parties for them, we played catch with their kids, we never had cross word, part of it is their parents bring in the a animosity . Either that or they are angry and there is an illness there that gets channel through religiousty. But you are right, there was a lot of anger in the family, they create, celllike psychology, went their family or within their group they have distincted feelings that gets nurtured. Society as large does not impact their feelings about being part of the society. Charles the process does not happen overnight. There are telltale signs, coworkers see it, associates, fellow students, sometimes is starts in school, then it evolves, you and sense there is danger. Why cant we find a way to find that and isolate these people. This is an enormous lift. Anyone who has been involved in counterterrorism struggle for any time now. Folks at fbi tell you this every day, that best way to identify potentially disrupt or prevent an attack by an individual such as yesterday in lonn, is to get an immediate family member, somebody that close to the individual who can say, we have a problem. They have to have the confidence, there has to be a level of trust for them to pick up the phone and call local authority or federal or state authority. Charles i am asking, once that is done, how come the authorities keep dropping the ball . They are not. When that happens, they are preventing it, look, a lot of these attacks dont happen. We have maiden roads inroads, i am talking about a operational perspective, it has to be done, we have to continue with effort with the muslim communities, whether here or uk or elsewhere. Here, you have to make that effort. It is a big heavy les list to get mom, sister or cousin to pick up the phone, say, i think we have a problem. Charles right, sometimes it is friends that see something or hear something. This guy in the uk he had associated with known radicals, he came within the Law Enforcement across hairs cross hairs but he drifts out of it. Right, the hard truth is that were never going to be able to police our way out. There are too many weapons lying around, too many people to watch, i think most important thing to limit the ideidealogical influence, where it is tolerated by pakistan and countries in gulf so they cannot corrupt our domestic muslim institutions, our schools and mosques and encourage them and put in preachers who support radical islam. Charles quickly, asimulation asimulation, can it be done . I think it can be done. It has been done. And i think perhaps some of these individuals are not really psychologically well. When you are not well, you dont adjust. You dont feel a part of the system, we need to find out who is more vulnerable. Charles maybe give us an easy way of tracking them. 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Liberty stands with you™ Liberty Mutual insurance charles the gop healthcare bill in limbo, according to cbo, next year 14 million additional people will be uninsured. And total of 52 million, joining me now, joel walsh andand dr. Nicole. Do you think that americans would be healthier as a result of this bill or any bill with so much government instruction. I don i am not going to say americans would be healthier, it depends on the quality of care they receive. Medical community was indicated with regulations and too many patients. In addition to reimbursement cuts, you had Small Business physicians struggling. With American Health airplan plan, you have fewer people insured, you have fewer patients and still making less, now well make less as a medical community, and things have to close and consolidate. Charles as a physician, if they called you, one or two things this you think would be important to make it better if you could help out. As a physician, as a breast radiologist, Cancer Screening i find very important, to treat cancer early on, that will save money and also help with associated with it it is important to maintain addiction and mental healthcare, we suffer as a society from the opioid epidemic. Charles lets listen to Chris Collins representative from upstate new york. An early donald trump supporter. A no vote is a vote to keep obamacare, when imploded. What does that do for america in how many counties right now do in the have insurance carrier for next year . We have to remember this not a choice of a viable option called obamacare in a replacement. Obamacare is not viable. All people chants to keep obamacare, obamacare has failed, even nancy pelosi and democrats say we need to fix obamacare, i can promise you, were trying to get it done, but there is no help from the democrats, so the people who are saying they will keep obamacare, that is not going for america. Keeping without insurance. Cboscored by amendment. Obamacare your . Obamacare is failing. If we dont get this repealed and replaced, we have a good. Obamacare has failed. When we take about option of Country Healthcare it would be in a mess. If we dont get a replacement. If obamacare does implode before our eyes. Are you precluded from doing tax reform . The point is, if we dont get this done, where are we going to go with tax reforms and Immigration Reform . This is step one. Without step one, we really dont get to step two, were talking eliminating 800 billion of job killing taxes, fees and penalties to get our economy growing, and get us more jobs, this is more than just repeal and replace obamacare, this is removing 800 billion in job killing taxes, fees and penalties, we need to grow the economy. Part of what President Trump is promised. Here we are. As long as we get it done tomorrow, all is good, all is forgiven. What do you think of response so far . This is legislation. I am new to this myself. With obama as president , we did not go through this type of situation. Because you know we were adversarial to the president , this is new to some of the members, republican house, Republican Senate and republican president. Some extent we were opposition party. And it is easy to be the opposition party, look at the democrats, they are united in opposition. Are you worried it might change so more moderate members to say no. That is what is going to happen if that is why this what we had earlier today. You requesyou can almost say as good as to gets. If you make it more poll pallettable to conservatives you lose one or 2 on the other side, we have a good balanced compromise right here. I think we have to bring it to the floor, if it does not pass, i am optimistic it will, then it is a binary choice, those folks. People said i dont like either candidate, i dont like trump, i dont like clinton. They have a binary choice. It was one or the other, the day before the hour before, they were undecided, that may be where we are now, we have to force a decision, this becomes a vote for future, and moving our Party Forward for a vote to keep opponen keep. They are going to keep obamacare. That is the binary choice. Okay thank you. Representative Chris Collins, i think was first congressman to back donald trump. He repeated as we dipped in the first words, binary choice, he ended on that same notion, that no matter what, have to bring this to the floor, thinking that perhaps, that adds extra pressure to Freedom Caucus and others who might now be voicing a no, but that would put pressure on them to make a decision, either this, the new bill or voting for current system. I want to bring in joe walsh. Joe, interesting to hear Chris Collins talk about this. He got a sweetheart deal a couple days ago, now other folks want a sweetheart deal that harkens back to corn husker kickback and last minute horse tradingith nancy pelosi and barack obama. I guess well see those done too . And charles, i have been there this process is brutal. These members are going to get pounded over the next 12 to 24 hours. And i feel for them. But you and i have talked. 7 years ago the democrats gave americans a big entitlement. And what are republicans trying to do with this bill in take away 10 of that entitlement . They will never win that game, they will never out entitlement the democrats guys. That is the box they are in. Charles let us take a quick break, well be right back. Charles were back with more. Nicole, congressman Chris Collins, said, listen obamacare is imploding, that gives us a sense of urgency. In your mind, does that mean we should do this piecemeal fashion or just take a step back and do to the right way. Charles, this the problem with piecemeal, patching things, there is universal opposition to Affordable Care act from medical community and legislators and larger amount of American People. Now with American Healthcare act, you still have good amount of people who are opposed. Now problem is we need something more people will hop to board with. Affordable care act is collapsing. Do we let it continue . While we come up with a fundamental robust plan . It might be the way to do it. Charles with new plan, premiums going up in next couple of years, Kaiser Foundation said that deductibles going up, no one is talking about that. Is that enough to say, lets go back to the drawing board, and let obamacare implode, to do this the right way. Charles this bill will create a mess, and republicans will own it. I think they tear it up, start over. As you said earlier, maybe just shelf it and mutua move on to taxes and tax reform her repeal obama scare and star care and start with a brandnew replacement. Talk to rand paul. Charles thank you very much, very hectic day, thank you guests, and thank you at home for wahing every night. If you cant see the show dvr it, now lou dobbs for the next two hours on fox business. Chaos on capitol hill. House republicans postponing a vote to repeal and replace obamacare, as they try to negotiate a deal. We have not g gotten enough of our members to get the yes at this point. Under what were considering. However i would say progress is being made. That progress that is being made is really should be applauded with efforts of the white house. Lou congressman Louie Gohmert and his Freedom Caucus meeting with President Trump today here, is our guest, along with