Last night . [applause] oh yes. One down, two to go. I really enjoyed it. The numbers came out over 80 Million People watched so thats wonderful, the biggest shows of the history and television, the biggest debate ever and i just pretended i was dealing with you. I didnt want to think about those numbers. Charles i was donald trump and Hillary Clinton hitting the campaign trail really hard both trying to get the postdebate spin out with their supporters say hit key swing states. Everyone expected fireworks and after we got got at hofstra university. Take a look. You look at the inner cities and i just left philadelphia and you know if you have seen me, then ill over the place. You decided to stay home and thats okay. I think ill just criticized me for preparing for this debate and yes i did and you know what else i prepared for . I have prepared to be president and i think thats a good thing. Charles so the avalanche of polls and focus groups both candidates insist they won the debate so who was the real winner and what do we have to look forward to going ahead . Joining me fox news political contributor tammy bruce and democratic strategist mark album and am boris epstein. Boris let me start with you. How did you feel your candidate did . We know the bar was relatively low but some people feel like he should have done better. It was a good night and its all about consuming the trajectory we had going into the debate. We are winning in ohio, florida, colorado and nevada in mexico and pennsylvania. Hillary clinton tried to wyden wyden her way out of her sagging polls. She tried to vy on tpp and we have talked about that a lot here. She said she was for it and against it. She tried to do what she did to barack obama and he called her out for it. He said Hillary Clinton will do whatever it takes and say whatever it takes to become president and chief ale last night in authentic donald trump was authentic last night. I think they have a goal which was to get rid of the 100 milliondollar campaign to picture him as a hitler who is out of control. That has been smashed so that narrative is over. She on the other hand had been actually very low bar. Should approve if she could stand up without falling over for 90 minutes and now she is accomplished as the differences both of them i think accomplished the goal in that regard in a larger sense. At the same time we both know these candidates. No one is going to learn anything new in but we have seen our stories today. Charles since we knew them both what is the chess master and polk each other and get each other off course and some are saying that hillary was able to do that a couple of times. We know mr. Trump is a combination of being able to deliver on issues that sometimes can be a firebrand sometimes. Thats nothing new. If he had been completely controlled for the last year would have been news. We know him and hes there for a reason being who he is so i dont know what she hope to accomplish that but she didnt. I think what people saw and this is interesting the pundits think maybe she wasnt whatever that is relatively but undecideds and democrats who were not sure did not like an attitude which they said was still condescending and thats one of her issues. If you watch visually people have a more negative opinion of her and those those who listened and liked her a little bit more but thats something she is not overcoming. I would say this was not a win for either one of them but mr. Trump did not deflect when he should have on occasions. I think the second debate is going to matter because its an opportunity to tell the American People what hillary stands for. Charles mark Hillary Clinton appeared to have more pep in your step if you will. Maybe she feels like she is one. A lot of the pundits have said she has one but at the same token she worked overtime to appear robot nonrobotic and the smile was inauthentic. Charles i dont know what debate my colleagues were watching but there wasnt one commander chief of the station i was Hillary Clinton. We all know that she won the debate. What we dont know with what it will mean. This is a close election. The electorate is divided. I think she moved a few people from gary johnson to her. I think she moved a few people from undecided to her but i couldnt agree more with what was just said, the second debate is going to matter and so will the third. This is going all the way to november 8. What is interesting. She has failed the commander of chief task because she was secretary of state for four years. Charles let me ask you about that. The donald trump miss an opportunity to hammer that home . He had the right people he invited to the debate and there were a few glaring openings that i thought he could have come two to hammer home the point. We have been fighting isis for a long time but 80 of the murders done by isis have been in the last three years. Isis group her watch and became what it is now on her watch. Syria, iraq the relationship with bashar and china. Thats a failure in terms of being a commander in chief n. A. B. Cant trust her with emails that can we trust her with a bomb . Charles he made all those points and 15 seconds. A lot of people say donald trump despite this way he felt about the moderator should have taken control and not spend 20 minutes on the birtherism and instead hammered home the economy which he came out strong on and carried followed up with foreign policy. Than the moderators never going to be his friend and this is not new for republicans. They are not going to be asking questions that are helpful and thats the main take away for mr. Trump. He will have to decide what the directions going to be the next debate. When he was asked about an issue that nobody cares about that earth arisen he should have said its its amazing you are asking me about that when in fact you havent said one word about benghazi which was an existential issue for people that you want to talk about an issue that ive dismissed and the americans dont care about about . That something is going to take away from this. Mr. Trump i think absolutely people who know him in the way he is now the appreciate his style but they do want to see a commander in chief whos going to be able to go after someone like Hillary Clinton and it doesnt mean you have to be mean. It means you have to be forceful. Charles mark do you feel Hillary Clinton dodged the bullet . In other words lester holt never brought up benghazi and never brought up the email controversy and never brought up a payfor play. He never brought up the incredible growth of isis. She dodged a bullet. He just talked about the second debate. Highly a mic way that will happen again. Hillary clinton handled everything that was dealt to her. Charles the point is that was not dealt to her. I agree. Its one of the reasons the donald trump lost last nights debate. The other reason among a few is that it was incomprehensible and discussing Nuclear Policy and cybersecurity but sure, we all know the second debate is going to be different. She is going to have to address those issues charles that you just ticked off and im confident that she can do it. How could she possibly do at . By people around her including the chief of staff and the staffer who set up the server. She is in unity with the republic of justice. So theres a very distinct issue the American People do not Hillary Clinton on. That number is only going up. Hillary clinton has one issue. The American People donald trump did talk strongly on Nuclear Policy and strongly on isis very strongly on immigration. Charles one second mark. He sent out a tweet racing 16 million. I think that underscores the fact that his base is built in period. Its its there so its rock solid and its one heck of a base to build off and in their eyes they see him as the winner of this debate. Well of course. Both sides see their favorite is the winner. People will see what they want to to see in the fact of the matter is the expectations were that hillary would do better. This was his first debate and considering that he did fabulously well. We know who mr. Trump is and what he stands for. That was articulated. Part of his appeal is why he is standing there is because he is this individual doesnt have that experience and is doing it because he loves the country. The bottom line is he stood for change last night, she stood as a bureaucratic representative. Nothing changed those dynamics and thats why hes ahead and his numbers will go up. She laughed at him from time to time. Charles lets leave it there. 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This man creates software, to protect this customer, who lives here and flies to hong kong, to visit this company that makes smart phones, used by this Vice President , this little kid, oops, and this obstetrician, who works across the street from this man, who creates software. They all have insurance crafted personally for them. Not just coverage, craftsmanship. Not just insured. Chubb insured. He tried to switch from looks to stamina, but this is a man who has called women, slobs and dogs and someone who has said pregnancy is an inconvenience to employers, who has said women dont deserve equal pay unless they do is good a job as men. Charles that was Hillary Clinton at the president ial debate attacking donald trump on his record with women while donald trump denied some of the elevations. He appeared on fox and friends earlier today and came back with this response. Lets take a listen. What she hit me at the end with women i was going to hit her with her husbands women but i decided i wasnt going to do it and i didnt feel comfortable. I did the right thing and its not worth the point i didnt feel comfortable doing it with chelsea in the room. I think chelsea is a fine young lady. Charles one poll shows Hillary Clinton holds a fivepoint lead among female voters so what can donald trump due to persuade more to go for him . Turning me is betty mccoy at democratic strategist Jessica Tarloff and the cochair morgan ortegus. On fox and friends there was a continuation of a conversation about Miss Universe and. I was a smear. Charles at the smear, smear his part politics. Thats right that politicians can always go back and find somebody somewhere who wants to have their one day in the sunshine by making a charles the housewives in suburban philadelphia. I heard that at the end of the debate. What am i thinking . I have been a woman on my life and i can tell you that i care about the economy, i care about whether i can pay my mortgage and i certainly care about Donald Trumps proposals to make childcare tax deductible. Thats a huge proposal for people who have small children and i certainly care about national security. Do i care about the charges . If you wanted to be a politician he could dredge up so many charges against bill and Hillary Clinton. They are walking scandal machines but he has been taking the high road. Donald trump in the high road is an amazing combination. Its true. Betsy was and what he said this morn to continue and ive heard rumors that trump said he did make these comments and then he comes out saying well she did gain a lot of weight which directly implies that he did say to her. Its not just one woman, its many women and he went on last night. I have seen other polls with the much larger gender gap in the one you show here. Shes ahead with white collared educated women which is it demographic that usually goes with the republicans. He needs to not make comments like that. Its not funny. There was an ad in the Hillary Clinton campaign about girls looking in the mirror. I thought it was a really vicious ad. I have three daughters and two granddaughters. Donald trump is the villain there. Theres nothing to associate donald trump with this terrible ad that suggests that children are victims of men and boys. Charles morgan i will ask you this in the attack to get the Hillary Campaign is taking does it exploit young women being victimized in being being bullied . Havasu kate is a backfire for Hillary Clinton by the way she has had some trouble with the female vote that she took for granted. Charles negative ads are a part of politics and if you are going to be the big race you have to put your big girl on and deal with that. I actually think when it comes to women with Hillary Clinton this is surprising to me. Shes actually doing worse with women than president obama did four years ago in the election and clearly trumps numbers are probably not running less and i think he did caught get caught up in her baiting him a bit last night but saying that this is the first of three debates. I dont think he did anything to completely knock himself out of the race last night to the campaign has been very smart about putting ivanka trump in the front and they need to give her a call and get her out of the campaign trail. Charles putting out an s. O. S. For ivanka. Coming up speaking of love where is the voter enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton . She needs it, its missing. We will discuss it, next. Do you worry if youve saved enough for retirement . Are you or your spouse 62 or older . A governmentbacked reverse mortgage enables you to turn the equity youve built into the retirement you deserve. 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If youre feel bad about your ability to make someone laugh watch Hillary Clinton tried to make the roomful of young people laugh especially and as someone goes around talking to young voters especially thats where receive the most apparent lack of enthusiasm is with the 18 to 29yearold voting block to the main reason for that is because young people hate nothing more than a man telling them who to support and they feel in the situation as if the Mainstream Media has forced Hillary Clinton upon them. I think kate donald trump and gary johnson are not getting a fair shake down. They feel as if okay if you dont want to let us voice our opinion and if you want to stifle us we just wont vote and we will be enthusiastic. I think thats going to be a major problem for hillary moving forward if she doesnt get people him voting for her and not against donald trump. Charles she will probably have to push a lot more, try to run this campaign from your home in new york are a bunch of ads on tv no less, shes not going to get millennials that way. What you have to do is talk to them where they congregate. They have to talk to them digitally and on facebook. 60 of millennials get their news over 70 of people over 45 is a wheelhouse so you are looking at a traditional dynamic that obama change in the way unnaturally that wasnt a natural ship and now we are going right back down to where they were originally and Hillary Charles its going to take more than one election cycle and im happy to see donald trump started and i hope he continues in many different ways and this will get all voters different options. Lester holt making all the headlines for all the wrong reasons. The man in the middle who might have leaned one way to much. Well talk about it next. 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Dont let a 1 difference cost you twice as much. Whoooo for people with hearing loss, visit sprintrelay. Com. Charles debate moderator lester holt, the trump team accusing holt of lobbing softballs to Hillary Clinton like birtherism or Hillary Clintons president elect and the most glaring was the lack, paytoplay. Tammy bruce Jessica Tarlov and boris back with us. Boris would he make of this . He really just felt like, i dont know if it was attention but he did so much to help Hillary Clinton and again i dont know that it was a plan or set up as we came out. That had to be the thing to work. He saw how much nastiness matt lauer faced. Hillary clinton just a terribly so lester holt, he interrupted trump 16 times and interrupted Hillary Clinton zero times. He asked Hillary Clinton zero pointed questions. Charles Debate Commission is going to allow emails questions to come in from people through emails. Also my thinking is lester holt was asking the questions that matter to him so the birtherism thing probably mattered to him. This Hillary Clinton look president ial probably mattered to him. I do know that he thought about the broader audience and the American Public. Certainly he went off script. When you think about the best of moderator you think about jim lehrer and you wonder how jim lair would have handled it. He asked donald trump six followup questions and asked donald trump 15 specific question to him and his issue into to hillary. It was also an attitude framework almost like he was the third debater. He was like a debate between lester holt and donald trump. This is the challenge for mr. Trump is to be able to handle datamart how to handle that because the next you are going to be an easier but i ran york made a point of twitter earlier, lester holt is not some kind of conspiracy with the campaign. Thats the groupthink and media in general. Thats all it is to your point, all about them i would interest them and we know that they are liberals whether you are registered as a republican doesnt matter. This is what will make donald trump a better president because if this is allowed to go on their better president because they are currently under attack like this. Its unfair but its true. Charles jessica there is a point to this. Matt lauer hit her with some hard questions that she wasnt prepared for. You can imagine if one of the next moderators decided to say im going to ask about the guys in whole to be to the fire and these countries that mistreat women and mystery the lgbt community. Im going to really hold their feet to the fire. Witchy be prepared . I think last night proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that this woman is prepared. First of all i thought trumps most effective question or segment was definitely on trade. It was a question designed to hit hillary. Charles thats on a broader macrotopic. The relationship between the candidates and the moderators last night was a walk in the park for her. There were violins, flowers. But there is also in listen there were a number of times he pushed back on her. Charles were you worried that she wouldnt be prepared . I worried that her answers would not be adequate to the American People but i do not worry that she be prepared to answer them. This is trumps challenge especially if you are living in a world where people will try to fact check you. He said a lot of things that are chair and im not saying Hillary Clinton is a seen here but the iraq vote fighter the birtherism fight or whatever it is in that particular moment he needs to be better equipped to handle it and did not lose his cool and go off and were these rants. Charles this is the pivot. Heres another pivot by the way. Hillary clinton cant answer those tough questions because she doesnt have an answer. Charles the bottom line is we will see tougher questions. One way or the other. Charles by the way was not a tough day for the stock market to the stock market ended on a high note. An explosion of consumer confidence, what is that all about . How could the president ial campaign weigh in on a . We will tackle it all, next. Charles well heard what the candidates had to say that coming up we have a performance expert who is going to break down what their body said to us. What their body is telling us. Was their body telling us the truth . I can wait for that. Ht to vote on a plan to reorganize and pay claims in the garlock coltec bankruptcy. Garlocks and coltecs products were used in industrial and maritime settings, including where steam, hot liquid or acid moved in pipes. Votes must be filed by december 9, 2016 call 844garlock or go to garlocknotice. Com charles there are a lot of ways to measure sentiment that one of the best ways for me is just drifting down to the last couple of months its become to liftoff bigtime for todays rating of 104. 1 the highest since august of 2006. Now the move is driven by a surge in what they called present conditions which by the way lends credibility to the assumption that maybe theres a greater sense that jobs are becoming more available. The long red flag in the report was a sharp decline in response to good time to start businesses. That had a sharp decline in still the report was super oppressive as it not only put the brakes on serious it allowed stock to decouple from oil. Another missed chance for opec to curb production. Lots of money came out of utilities and by the way the utility index up to 70 of that underscores all the anxiety that has clouded this entire year. Despite the move in stocks that yield slump today. Global investors are worried and i think they are fretting about concerns over this European Bank riddle of the president ial debate in the outside pressure for the fed to hike rates was going to happen here particularly with banking anxieties coming in and so far with Economic Data out there i know theres something to the notion that is political but more than anything else gallon and company have boxed themselves into a corner. Here to discuss his brian bradbury. Brian thanks for joining us. The most recent Economic Data for the most part all came below estimates including 151,000 jobs and yet theres a lot of pressure on the fed. Donald trump scored eight points last night saying that janet yellen is political. I think losing george bush to reelection but by the same token where can they go from here . I really dont think trump needs to do that. This is really a case of the fed watching the numbers and saying they are simply not good enough for us to move rates up and trump should be focusing on editing the problem is the obama economy and by extension the clinton economy. You dont have to go down the Conspiracy Theory road to make that case. Charles that is the army vet at the fed raises the rates the economy is going better. I heard you talking about lester holt before and he was consumed with factchecking about the birther issue and about who oppose the iraq war first. I wish he had focused on asking Hillary Clinton who has been campaigning around the country saying corporations have to pay there should fair share. Ask mrs. Clinton was there fair share . Corporations who have the highest rates in the world and donald trump has said let those Corporate Tax rates and jumpstart the economy. We know that is what is needed but shes demagogue an issue. Charles my theory on that when she talks about sharing, your wages and prophets are in my mind that belief progressives would like the American Public to give them power to reach america, line item. Before taxes something for the greater good. Its ridiculous that the other president ial candidate talking about how to manage compensation for private companies. If it makes sense for a private company find out why in the world would she assume shes in a position to know how to run these companies and thats a problem here. You have too much topdown intervention in the economy and thats whats wrecking our economy. You are going to see more and more regulations if mrs. Clinton becomes president because shes talking about regulating bonuses and regulating overtime, regulating childcare, regulating time off. Charles of course obamacare would be here to stay. Plus obamacare, thats right. Uncle sam will be in every boardroom and looking over every managers shoulders. Charles you spent time with all trump and its been a long time since we have had an official recession. Large sections of the country never come out of it. If he were elected how could we avoid back . It feels like we are somewhat on course. We are heading toward a recession because the Business Investment has been down for three consecutive quarters and when businesses dont buy a cant hire another driver. Charles can he be sworn in time to divert back . What do you think brian . Reforming regulation and taxation charles the recession was in march. Does he have enough time . Expectations matter. He has policies that both sides agree im a is the taxes. You need to start there in the next debate. Charles thank you both. What if i told you its not all about the what the candidates said but how they set a . Next, a top performance coach is going to reveal what Hillary Clinton and donald trump really said when they were talking. Stay with us. 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He pushed the date of two next month a set of first as originally planned that the things happening expecting more big news from mapping the meantime they say sometimes what is unspoken is worth a thousand words in a case of last nights president ial debate body language really took center stage from Donald Trumps shrugs to Hillary Clinton shimmy to body language becoming one of the more important criteria. How did the candidates actually communicate . Lets break it down with performance coach doug hirschhorn. Everyone had an opinion on that. I think the split screen hit us with that so your sense . The first time we saw them sidebyside which is a compare and contrast experience between someone whos charismatic and engaging and a master entertainer someone whos poised and professional and coach professionally to be a politician. Charles some people feel that Hillary Clinton was at times robotic and snide and like the class know it all. Did she come across that way particularly with this mile . In particularly with this mile . And issues in a tough place because she got criticized by matt lauer for not smiling but does she smiling grin too much . I think she came up as how she wanted people to seniors such as a president ial with poise and not someone over the top. Charles donald trump knows how to work a crowd but during the primaries he made all kinds of faces when people said things particularly when he thought they were outlandish. How do you think he did last night because he was on the camera all the time. I think his facial expressions when he works his mouth and uses his hands thats magical as an entertainer. People find it engaging. If you turn the volume down and just watch people interact you get to form impressions. Impressions not distracted by the tone of voice and researchers have shown back to 1967 that 93 of communications is nonverbal and you have to think about when you break it down only 65 they found was facial expressions and then tone of voice sounded for the bounce of it. Charles he said his body expressions and facial expressions sort of corroborated the notion that he is an everyday man. In other words hes not a seasoned politician and a dozen at the train that has a mass of makes him the hero of so many regular people that he can identify with. They might view him as someone who is a life that they can identify with this genuineness. Charles a few times it felt like donald trump was tripped up and going back and forthwith lester holt and Hillary Clinton was taking obvious glee in that present a paper politician to politician to do . Hillarys goal should have been two charles the doesnt that make her look less president ial . She was simply like trying to trip them up to let them blow up and be like okay you see what im talking about people. Do you want that as president or do you want someone who can stay composed . Charles of its happening when she underscores a particularly with the facial expressions with the giggle and laugh out loud kind of thing, does it actually backfire on her . Herb widely languages compose the whole time so when he rants and raves we are forming our opinion but she is saying he acts like a child and we dont want him running her country. Charles the way you talk about the nonfacial stuff so the way they looked at each other and a handshake. I saw one body language experts say from the very beginning she thought donald trump did very well with a handshake and a pat on the back. He took control. Did you sense anything like that . He is also a tall guy of about 6 feet 4 inches. Hes an imposing figure so automatically he will take control as an alpha figure which i thought was impressive by hillary. She didnt get overwhelmed by him on stage. She held her ground and i looked at it like i havent seen matt and i was expecting to see donald consume her and i didnt see that last night. Charles what stood out to you the most . You watched it like we all did. You are an expert. You teach people how to have that peak performance. You think they achieve their goals . I think they were both true the message they want to send to the people. Charles in the beginning with donald trump was breathing heavily, was that a distraction and did that mean anything . John mcenroe was famous for having blowups on the court. Critics said he did intentionally to undermine his opponent. Whether he had a cold, Sigmund Freud says sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Charles the bottom line you think they both achieve what they wanted to achieve verbally or at least nonverbally . 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Charles well the last hope for the never trump movement, many say maybe last hope for conservatism. Calling out Traditional Party members, saying they need to stand up to donald trump, also questioning whether there is a viable moment for conservatism. The man happens to be in studio. Welcome to the show. Great to be with you. Charles your thoughts on debate. I thought it was uninspiring to see Hillary Clinton and donald trump presenting a lack of positive vision for our country. They both scored points with their bases. Hillary clinton gave us the same Big Government ideas, top down, one size fits all soluti what is your beef with g. O. P. , what are they getting so wrong, you decided you had to run for president. G. O. P. Leadership abandoned conservatism in their undying commitment and support to donald trump. That is what is happening, you saw it last night on the debate stage, this is not a guy who believes who honors the constitution, and believes in limited government, and personal liberty and other values that are enshrined in our founding documents. Charles where has he run afoul on personal liberty in your mind. His views of the role of government, he believes in a Big Government that will keep borrowing, borrowing, that government will have to raise taxes on americans, if does not reform in other ways, in entitlements for example he does not support. The more the government grows the more is taxes its people, the less liberty we have. Charles can someone be elected by saying, im note lowering tax i am not lowering taxes i and taking away social security. I was with house of representatives, donald was urged to include reforming entitlements in his campaign, he said he would not do that. He would harm his election prospect. Charles isnt that the truth though . Maybe do you feel if he would have embraced these things you embrace, he has stature and swagger, that magnetism, he could have sold them to the American Public . I believe, there are Many Americans that are struggles in this economy. I believe it was possible to give them a voice for their justified frustrations without combining without pulling in white supremacist movement. Charles he has not someoy identify with them, but he has not actively pulled them in. Certainly he has. Don has encouraged them, they are more empowered than before. Charles i dont think that is true. It is true. Charles im not saying some are attracted to his presidency, i dont see where he actively engaged them in or tried to vulture them. He has attacked people based on race and religion. Charles a big question, which of conservatism, is it dead . It is not dead. But the party is challenged. Charles evangelicals, ted cruz, a lot of nevertrumpers have come onboard, you may be the last man standing. Conservative sim conservatism is based on fundamental ideal in which this nation was founded. All humans, men and women were created equal, the cause of liberty, life and pursuit of happiness, that will not die, the question is whether Republican Party will be the party that supports that or not. Charles thank you very much. Thank you. Charles it has been a fantastic show, here is lou. Lou good evening, i am lou dobbs, i hope you had a good time with the president ial debate last night, it is now officially the most watched history, 84 Million People tuning in. A record in the 60 history of televised president ial debates. Well be qualifying that in a moment, it is not often you call a record a disappointment. But that is what happened last night, 100 Million People were expected to opportunity it. It was 84 million