Wealthy and corporations to deporting immigrants if the loss would be the loss of 3. 4 million jobs. Charles Hillary Clinton lands in michigan to deliver her counter attack. Clinton laid out her agenda to create jobs at the 275 billion infrastructure project. But she did seize the opportunity to paint donald trump as a crony whose policies would actually destroy the middle class. There is a myth out there that he will stick it to the rich and powerful because somehow hes really on the side of the little guy. Dont believe it. Shell make a speech today and talking about what she is going to do to the country. She doesnt talents to do it. If she wanted to do it, just remember this. If she wanted to do it, she couldnt because her donors wouldnt let her. Charles whose economic message will resonate with the American People. Joining me steve moore angels qatar love. Which one do you think is best for the economy and what resonates with voters . I cant quite answer the second question about the politics of it because thats not my strong suit. But hands down, even though there is not there are things i dont like about Donald Trumps message. Hands down his tax plan is much better. Great idea about overhauling the regular early toy system which is cumulative of all the regulation that we have as an incredible drag on the economy. And finally someone who talks about doing something. I think his energy plan is well designed and well implemented could go a long way to create economic growth. Hillary is just a speech thats a great reminder that if you didnt like the result of the last 8 years in economic growth, this is exactly the same we are going to get. There are no new ideas. I can see the conundrum a classically trained economist might be in. But i thought it was more of a speech. How do you spark the economy and how do you share in the spoils of the economy. I understand that and obviously already a lot of programs she adopted from bernie sanders. Talking about free college and public universities. Yufer universal prek. And because hillary laid out her economic plan so early on in this and we only heard trumps official plan on monday, she was making more of a political speech there and drawing the contrast. Its interesting to listen to vzronique and her view. Just way she was even framing it is exactly how donald trump wants to it sound to the public which toys say im simplifying your brackets. Im making things Charles Donald trump is talking about growth. Moodys said she would add 10 million jobs and donald trump was going to lose us jobs and we would head into a recession. I know well have a plan coming out as we move forward monday, but i think she is talking about growth as well. Steve, i have got to ask you about that. She talked about the trump loopholes. Essentially this gets back to politics of envy. Donald trump is setting up an economic plan that assures he and his rich friends get enricher while the rest of them get scratched. What would you say to that . I would say every business in america, there are 20 million Small Businesses in this country and several hundred thousand larger businesses, and they are all going to get a 15 tax rate and hillary is as high as 50 . Well hammer home which creates more jobs, a 15 tax or 50 tax. She has a tough sell there. Everyone who runs a business will get a tax cut. And trump said if i get a tax cut, im going to plow that money back into my business and hire more workers and expand it. Thats what i think most businesses will do. We have the highest tax rates in the world. We are seeing businesses leave. And this is going to be a magnet attracting them. I want to talk about this. Your plan versus our plan from now until november 7. Charles im sure you do and well fit it in as often as possible. Let me ask you about this. The last couple years there was a point where corporate profits were at an alltime high. Corporations were plowing that money into their own stocks. A lot of people were sceptical that more money on a Balance Sheet corporations means more money in their pockets or greater prosperity. The constant bashing about corporations and what they do with their money and how everything they do is for greedy reasons very often tends to forget the environment corporations are acting in. And we have for years now a huge amount of uncertainty, and the market and companies dont like uncertainties. And they do the next best thing, they know to do, to try to keep surviving. Sure some businesses may try to profit. Just try to do things that we can look at and say but it is til their money. We need to not forget the environment these guys have been operating on. Unbelievable uncertainty. Again for years, the Corporate Income tax is horrible and it forces corporations to keep their money abroad. They get accused of being horrible and greedy. Its time to create an environment that allows companies to operate without tons of uncertainty. Lets see what american corporations can do in an environment thats conducive to running businesses. Charles the highest tax rates couples with the coupled with the war on business. While hoik rr was in michigan, donald trump is meeting with pastors in North Carolina and appealing for support from the crucial evangelicals. You will have great power to do good things, and religion will start going instead of this way, with christianity, when you think of whats happening, when you look at the numbers. I talk about sunday school, people dont 10 know what im talking about. Charles did donald trump do enough to convince this group of parishioners and get them out to the polls. The polls are pretty strong for donald trump with respect to evangelicals. But it looks like he will need an extraordinary turnout from them, not just in the voting booth, but to get out the vote for them. Not quite super natural turnout. What he needs is to connect with evangelicals. Hes working very hard. He did not have overwhelming support in the primaries. But hes connected with them on two important issues. He said without religious liberty, we have no liberty. Hes connecting with a constituency that is increasingly feeling the attack on religious liberty whether its a football cope want to go pray on the field or a baker making a cake. This election will determine the makeup of the Supreme Court for another generation, and that doesnt take a lot of explanation to evangelicals to let them know whats at stake when you look at 1973, roe versus wade. Then the court redefining marriage and throwing out 50 million votes of americans. Charles im not sure if the laws supersede the direction of the country or vice versa. It feels like younger folks are i dont want to say rejecting religion. But also more in favor of things like abortion and samesex marriage. How does a president ial candidate deal with that, and what should his role be promoting those core christian values . I agree with a poring that statement. Charles. What i have found is i have done a lot of work i wrote a book, no fear, profiling young evangelicals in this country. There is no question we have young people rejecting the organized cherp, but not necessarily rejecting faith. There is a stronger strain of commit to the ones faith among the Younger Generation than my generation. They have soured on politic. You have had promises for generations to end abortion. Which this generation gets overwhelmingly pro life, more so than their parents. On human sexuality, there is a live and let live phase. But as they see the conflict with religious freedom and the freedom to believe, those are changing as well. But it is going to be a challenge reaping those younger people. But they are not the ones who vote en masse. Its the over 50 crowd that votes. Charles also the younger folks have to live with these rules. Charles one thing turning donald trump is a temperament issue. When people talk about terrorism and the economy. Overarchingly its that one particular issue. Do evangelicals have a problem, what they like to see and tamp down on the temperamental issues . There is no question. Thats why hes still having these considerations trying to build a relationship. It comes down to two choices. We have Hillary Clinton, we know exactly what shell do as president. Shell support and appoint liberal justices to the courts. We dont know exactly what donald trump will do. We dont completely understand his temperament, but he has been taking the steps to assure people he will nominate strict constructionists to the courts. Hes not messed with the Party Platform which is the most conservative in history. And hes having a conversation in the general election with core conservatives which generally are overlooked in the general election. Hes working hard. Im optimistic. But more evangelicals and social conservatives would be comfortable if he dialed back the temperament and had a more christlike attitude when it comes to the political realm. Charles tony, thank you very much. I appreciate your wise words. They were great. I appreciate it. Coming up. Donald trump is consistently beating Hillary Clinton when it comes to the economy. Did her speech do the campaign any favors today . Well debate that next. To folks out there whose diabetic nerve pain. Shoots and burns its way into your day, i hear you. To everyone with this pain that makes ordinary tasks extraordinarily painful, i hear you. Make sure your doctor hears you too i hear you because i was there when my dad suffered with diabetic nerve pain. If you have diabetes and burning, shooting pain in your feet or hands, dont suffer in silence step on up and ask your doctor about diabetic nerve pain. Tell em cedric sent you. Charles donald trump, Hillary Clinton have been knock each others economic plans on the campaign trail. Donald trump wants to give trillions in tax breaks to people like himself. I want to invest tonight veterans, our kids, our police officers. She voted for tax increases and she is proposing a big one today in her speech, her teleprompter speech. Charles donald trump continues to do well when it comes to polling on the economy. But will the dueling mess ands play out in november. Lisa booth andly charred goodstein, there is another thing when we talk about how it resonates with people on main street. We have both candidates who across knowledge the pain and anger but have two distinct ways of remedying it. Hillary clinton cant do much because she has to embrace the policies of president obama. All donald trump has to point to is the pain and suffering of the middle class and the pain and suffering of americans. We have 100 million americans out of the workforce or unemployed. We have president obama who will be the first president to not hit 3 economic growth. Americans are suffering. We see the decline of the middle class under his policies. The same policies Hillary Clinton is going to continue. Charles barack obama was reelected and the Economic Conditions were even worse back then and he ran against a successful businessman. His policies have been rejected by historic margins. You look at the loss of the senate, the house, and 12 governor seats and state legislature chambers. I would say that he has lost by historic margins. Hillary clinton is running on bowel s third term. She cant even really mention bill anymore in this equation. And most people dont feel good. Most people think the country is moving in the wrong direction. Where president obamas popularity rating is. Its about exactly where Ronald Reagans was before he passed the baton to george h. W. Bush. You talk about not mentioning bill clinton. Ill bet she mentions the 23 million jobs. Charles she wont mention the work Welfare Program and incarcerations. Shell mention the private sector job growth. And the collapse when george bush, he got his way with a Republican House and senate. He got his economic policies pass and we had the largest economic crash in a century. Charles i dont think its going to be 8 years of collapse. But the idea maybe lot of a lot of people think we need a different system thats mixed with social i am. Millennials, 1830, 50 have a favorable impression of socialism. Bernie sanders got 13 million votes on this platform. Maybe there is an appetite out there for something new. We know people want something new. She may prit and stay how about we change the way capitalism works so everyone can benefit. Voters vote on how they are personally impacted. When you look at voters seeing triple digit insurance premiums because of regulatory policies like obamacare. You look at the fact that the comb industry has been decimated by the regulatory policies. You look at individuals who lost businesses under this regulatory climate. Americans feel like they are paying enough already, and Hillary Clinton wants to raise their taxes even more. People vote how they are personally impacted. They may say one thing or another in terms of the way these questions are being couched. But they know how they are personally impacted from a financial standpoint. You look at wet were its the fact that homeownership is in decline. Median income this decline. People have been personally affected in a negative way because of president obamas policies. The threshold question. Charles the jump in premiums in healthcare could be the october surprise. I understand president obama trying to push that announcement to december. The republicans, lets call it the establishment, continues, dozen of Top Republicans urging Reince Priebus to shift the focus of resources away from donald trump into the down ballot key senate races. Well tell you all about it when we come back. At ally bank, no branches equals great rates. Its a fact. Kind of like bill splitting equals nitpicking. But i only had a salad. It was a buffalo chicken salad. Salad. Charles well republican establishment defection from donald trump continues. Urging rnc to shift resources away from donald trump, letter still in draft form, only the immediate shift of all available rnc resources will prevent the g. O. P. From drowning in a trump around its neck. It is to be september out to the chairman of party next week. Is the time for the party to start focusing down valid . Are they being ungrateful . Kelly, almost of day with this stuff. You wake up, you look, it is 50 of them here, senator there now. They had a huge 8 million. I dont think they would have got they money without donald trump. You are right, he is the one doing the fundraising. They are contributing, the small donors, not the big hedge funds, this is just another ploy from the nevertrumpers, there are a small group of dc insiders. Looking at who signs letter a bunch of former republican operatives, and current whose in best interest to maintain the status quo. It is going nowhere, rncsigned a joint fundraising agreement with donald trump and don campaign, not to mention rnc and him combined locked in on a Party Platform. And Reince Priebus has been in touch with donald trump on a weekly basis, they have become good friends. Really. Tough love. Charles i am sure he is under some pressure from some of these folks, but. Why, what the heck is going on . Lets not believe what we read in Time Magazine, charles, ever. You had to hit me on that on one. [ laughter ] that is right, when i think about the 70 republicans, the establishment, i think, there they go again. They are approaching this as the establishment. Trump is opposite, they are reasons why he is the nominee today. I think Reince Priebus you know for him, this not an either or decision, this is resources that kelly raised, he has to pick his battle as best he, can in Battle Ground states where donald trump needs to win is where many senate races are. Charles let me ask you about ohio. How would you allocate cash there. As long as portman is doing well we dont need to spend as much money in senate race, but we still need to invest in the president ial race. Two different races going on there. Well have to spend money in ohio, super pac will have to spend ad dollars in ohio. The problem you know that is going on, there is a false correlation with polls. Where donald trump is not polling in a given state well, then sense cat can Senate Candidate is not polling there like in pennsylvania, they claim that coalition is between the two, that correlation does not exist. Rubio, for an incumbent is a lousy Senate Candidate, he lost 67 ou 66 out of 67 counties in the primaries to donald trump. Kelly, what happens from here. One thing to have these sort of end party disagreements, but they continually make them public. And it feels like it is more than just idealogical differences but it feels like there are a lot of folks in the Republican Party that are trying to sabotage donald trump. That is the right thing to think pause that is what is happening. Because that is what is happening, they believe he will destroy the western democracy, he is a greater threat to this republic than Hillary Clinton. I for one feel that we cannot go another 4 years with liberal regimes, and maintain the culture, and spirit of america that we have today. That this is a dire choice, that needs to be made, Hillary Clinton has put National Security at risk with her, nail scandal, she email scandal, she lies, today there is moreover lap between year work at state department and clinton foundation, they were a pay to play operation, she is just going to buy and sill the government in the white house. Charles some people have kushy jobs there they dont want anyone to upset the apple cart. Charles taf Task Force Found u. S. Central command was downplaying just how much of a threat isis was. Are we beating isis . Well be right back. [announcer] is it a force of nature . Or a sales event . The summer of audi sales event is here. Get up to a 5,000 bonus on select audi models. Charles a new report found that intelligence was an up lated. Manipulated, released today, sparked by a whistle blow, shows intelligence was knowingly manipulated. Downplaying the threats from isis, centcom said they are reviewing the findings. But will not coming beyond because of the Ongoing Investigation by task force. A central issue for voters. This could prove to be significant. Well break it down, chris canty, with you. I dont get it the we have been hearing that things were going swimmingly. Were not sure what to believe. In iraq, but they have a in libya pushed back as wo as we speak, they have operations in europe, the talking points are untrue, now we find they are traced back to false fixedal in fictional intelligence if you will. Charles brad, what woulding excuse be for would the excuse be for Something Like that in moral purposes . I want to be clear, the gentleman said they are expanding to southeast asia, i want to be clear, isis, while a serious threat, the word isis is being prosecuted strongly by the administration and defense department, any notion they are not is ridiculous. Lets be clear on. To mislead the American People is never something that should ever be done, there is no excuse to misled the American People. To my knowledge, nobody is saying that this respect is report is misleading the American People, what is at issue are a couple of facts and figures that may have been spoken about in such a way that you know can be debated. Charles right. To say this rising to level of say yellow cake in Bush Administration, where they lied. It is far worse than that, you know in american, a student was killed by isis in bangladesh because she could not cite the koran, commander of centcom, Mislead Congress because this phonied up intelligence went into testimony this is a big deal. Charles bringing in steve rogers, does this make distinc distinction. The war is not being prosecuted because of this administration, the hands of the military are tied, all my years working with military intelligence, i never heard or seen military personnel in uniform, skew any type of intelligence. This had to be on orders of someone outside of military. This is like vietnam, they skewed the body bag count so that American People would not get to concerned. They are doing the same thing, this is for political purposes, military people would not do this, buying doing that, they put the lives of their own troops in danger. Charles if it is true, then, what would you think . I share the panelist views of our military and armed forces, i am not claiming or saying that anyone in uniform did this intentionally or not. But, you know, lets not turn this into something that is equivalents to what happened under the Bush Administration. Where the Bush Administration and Vice President cheney lied to get us into war with iraq that caused this situation to begin with, which lead to deaths of tens of thousands of american lives, hundreds of thousands of iraqis. You know, to create a moral equivalentsy atthispoint is just crazy. You be i know that i know that is old get out of jail card, you know we did something wrong and deceiving, but. But i dont know that is working any more, brad. The thing is. Charles were finished with this segment were out of time, thank you all, i am sure well talk about it more in coming days, thank you. Thank you. Charles all three major averages in stock market closed record highs it has not happened since 1999. That is right, you remember the old prince song. My market commentary is next, you dont want to miss it. Hearty that gives you fastacting, longlasting relief. It immediately neutralizes acid and only gaviscon helps keep acid down for hours. For fastacting, longlasting relief, try doctorrecommended gaviscon. Charles it was a record day on wall street, rebound in crude oil helping all 3 major averages, also, brick and mortar not dead . Wow, but what is the real story. Ill have it for you next. I wodont know where id be without itre so when i heard about conartists committing medicare fraud. It made me so mad i wanted to give them the old onetwo one, never give your medicare number to get a free offer or gift two, always check your medicare statements for errors these crooks think were clueless, they dont have a clue its your medicare, protect it see more ways to fight fraud at medicare. Gov fraud charles i mentioned this week you never want to short a dull markets, markets get dull and lackluster in august. But the stock market has been anything but, this month. Today unique onetwo punch was higher crude, and better than expected retail earnings. And energy coming up, more sign that central players in the big oil war they are ready to blink. A consumer name that soared, all went up because macys and kohls blow away wo wall street consensus, and macys said, they will close 100 stores next year. Were seeing strength in luxury retailers and discount retailers, that was case again today. It dovetails with signs of increases consumer spending. There no doubt that the increase in credit card spending and lower savings means that trend cannot much longer unless wages increase soon. But for now trend continues at least tomorrow, after the Bell Nordstrom with a huge beat, may beat by 12 cents, and raise guidance, the stock is through the roof, if you want to trade this, i would like at tiffanys tomorrow, it is on cusp of a major break out. And broader market, keep an option on oil, this is key, and dont short a dull market. Coming up, market may be at new alltime highs, but is it true barometer of the overall economy . The debate gets more and more intense as each day goes by, were going to discuss that, next. Poor mouth breather. Allergies . Stuffy nose . Cant sleep . Take that. A breathe right nasal strip instantly opens your nose up to 38 more than allergy medicine alone. Shut your mouth and say goodnight, mouthbreathers. Breathe right. Charles some would say finally the economy has become the central focus of the president ial campaigning this week. One thing weve seen that market has been giving us hard data, we talked about Retail Stocks among worst performers, in last 12 months, but today, macys and kohls, and guidance that helps too. Maybe the denew demise of brick and mortar is not there yet. A lot of people keep saying that the market not main street. Bringing back my economic experts. Steve, i know that years ago the stock market was a barometer, if you will or proxy, for the economy. There are so many things involved in the market these days, that is not true any more. But what is the true state of the economy . Were not in recession are we . Business sector is close to a recession, i think what is going on. How long can stocks keep going up when wages are flat and falling. I think there is a disconnect betweens real economy and financial economy. That is why i am not as bullish as you are about the stock market and months ahead. Looking at construct, and manufacturing. If Oil Price Rises well see some better numbers with oil. But that will negatively affect manufacturing and construction and strays like that. Charles most of the Economic Data has been good or i guess from wall street pound of point of view beating the estimates. What do you think the clear state of the economy is right now. People feel were on the wrong track. An important indicator is economic growth, the economy is not growing at more than 1. 9 on average next 10 years. It is less than this for next 40 years, that is assuming no recession, no slowdown, that is unrealistic, the reason why this matters, steven you point out, what people and their standard of living and their income per capita isin driving the economy, they save their money that is reinvested in businesses. It is really important, and if the economy take it from someone who grew up in france, we have always had sluggish economic growth, this makes a big difference. Charles you have better wine and cheese than we do. But, having said that, steve, earlier in the week, warren buffet said 2 growth all be phenomenal, people would see wages up to 79, 80,000, he said we should be accustomed to this growth, to celebrate it. No, were not europe, i reject that. That is a new liberal line, that this is the best we can do, i reject that the Trump Campaign we think well get 4 growth, look it not that hard. I think that you can get the 4 . And no, i hate this diminished expectations, i hate it if i can add something. We have a study coming out, that shows that it takes 35 years to double income per capita, it only takes spheaf 17. 7 years to double per cal capita. Charles usa, usa. 2 growth, i never want to hear that. Not good enough. Charles im coming out for cheese later. Donald trump announcing his plans, he was sounding interesting this morning on a different network, like, he had plans in case he is defeated. Is he bracing for a loss . Is that something wrong there . Well discuss that. That oomph was not there today, well be right back. Its a fact. Kind of like grandkids equals free tech support. Oh, look at you, so great to see you none of this works. Come on in. And you needed a tow. Did your 22page insurance policy say, great news. Youre covered . No. It said, blah blah blah blah. The Liberty Mutual app with coverage compass™ makes it easy to know what youre covered for and what youre not. 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Ask your hep c specialist if harvoni is right for you. Charles this is a prominent feature august 22 issue of Time Magazine, called the meltdown, chronicles missteps of Trump Campaign, and frustration that party has because of it, trump asked about his future plans, he had an interesting answer. Just keep doing the same thing im doing right now, at the end its either going to work or im going to have you know, have a very nice long vacation. Charles joining me now to discuss dick morris. And richard goodstein. I have seen donald trump many times, it felt like maybe he was lackluster today or just talking about maybe it could work or not work. What did you make of it . All media hype, crazy, ridiculous. There are two polls out this week, one bloomberg with him going from 11 behind to 4 behind. Other rasmussen from 8 behind to 3 behind. And this is been a great week for trump. You would not know it from media, hillary on difference, all about emails and cash payment to iraq. He had a great economic program, he did not rise to the bait of hecklers. Charles Time Magazine cover, today, i know show, mark chided me for reading it. But every now and then i see the cover, they have been friendlier, is this a sign maybe progressives and media smell floo blood in the water. I am they want blood in the water, but 70 republicans who say redirect your effort, there is a party reactor line am going on reactor line a reactor linement going on. The 7 republicans, that prob globalist types. Charles it is does your party smell blood in the water . I do think that clinton campaigns to overcome any sort of compl complies comply sansy. Up shod on new york time. Charles ja yeah. They have pretty get track records, whether 70 republicans or when paul ryan says, we need to make sure were a bulwark against Hillary Clinton presidency. Charles let me ask dick a question, a new poll with latino voters, Hillary Clinto hill 66 and donald trump 20 do those things worry you. That is same as romney. He closed twothirds of the gap this week. All right, thank you very much. Here is lou dobbs. Lou i am lou dobbs, damns ne ing new report. Finding that Obama Administration manipulated and falsified intelligence on the Islamic State to make it appear as if the Obama White House were winning the war on terror, top officials at u. S. Central command gave a rosie view, of military success, when the facts on the group were far from rosie. And reasonable conclusions different from those offered by Central Command to the obama white