Looks like a successful coup. Even if its not a successful coup, its successful in the fact that erdogan will be weakened. When there was a coup attempt last time, it didnt quite work but the Prime Minister was weakened and later had to resign. Whats been happening inside turkey for a while has been building. The secular have been very nervous about a growing cozy relationship between erdogan and islamists. He has been jailing reporters and shutting down certain media outlets. We can go back to the flotilla where the turkish erdogan, president erdogan, sent this turkish flotilla down to gassa and was picking fights with israel. We have seen a history here of erdogan becoming too close with the islamists. The istanbul bombing was a huge issue for the Turkish Military to see what could happen. The situation in nice probably put them over the edge to say we cannot allow our president and our country to get this close to the islamists. We have to take it back. Charles herb london saw this coming. He wrote a book called county sunni vanguard. The secular tradition as asserted itself. Turkey has a secular tradition. The islamization that was undergone by erdogan had many people upset. If you spent time in istanbul and ataturk, its basically a secular society. Its only the rural areas that had the islamic revolution. After the attacks in istanbul, there was no question the military thought it had to do something. The military has been purposed by erdogan. Angry about the way in which the purging has taken place. Charles turkey is a thank you to partner. They are obviously centrally located. They came to the fight against isis late. And not fully menned to the commitment everyone else has had. A lot of folks are saying it may not be bad news as long as it can stay relatively bloodless to get someone out of there who is not sympathetic to the wrong people. Erdogans policies have contributed to erdogans will contribute to the militarys willingness to overthrow him. Istanbul may be secular. But rural turkey is islamic. Its a middle eastern country. Its like going to new york city and saying everyone votes democrat and its only democratic. It doesnt represent the whole country which is considerably much more islamic than it used to be. Charles you said there is a large islammic population, much more than in the past. Charles could those folks actually rise up and try to protect erdogan who happens to be at some seaside resort town. Im not sure that was what coincidence. I think the military will maintain control of the country. Keep in mind the deal made with isel rentloverhe flillahat s meione forethatlear sugges there is some sort of accommodationist view that exists. Erdogan has hat had one foot in has had one foot in the terrorist camp and one foot in nato. Charles michael, again, we are going to be holding our breath until this settles down. But another bigtime news event from a regional of the world on fire. Completely unstable. And it always feels like the next news item could tilt the whole thing out of control. Is there some good news hidden in this . Its good news fit the pro u. S. Secular military we worked with the last 30 years. Its a military we work with very well. One of the things erdogan did was he started arresting the military officers he thought would be threats. Charismatic turkish officers that he brought up on false charges and made go away. When you coupproof a 34eu9, this is what happens. We are looking at a split military. If this is a coup by that wing of the military. Officers were charged by ataturk. Its a good thing if its our guys. Charles we are talking about ataturk, the father of modernday turkey who was influenced by the west. The mixed signals the world has gotten from turkey has not helped our cause. And again this is what we are waiting for to see if it can remain relatively bloodless and these people are sympathetic not only to the west. So far they put out communications saying they would adhere to the different sort of arrangements they had with the rest of the world. And also their own constitution where the military had an historic role making sure the person in charge didnt go too far from their original concept of the country. We have always been close to the secular inside the military. And they have always done a good job. I pray this is bloodless. I pray this is something that they can settle internally more from a political standpoint. But one thing i have to make clear is that turkey has stated for a long time that assad should go. Their enemy is assad. They thought the syria policy should be get rid of assad and all else will begin to come together. Its not so much that they were resisting going after isis as they were saying assad is the first priority. And assad should go is the u. S. Policy. So you have two nato members articulating a policy assad should go but nothing being done about it. The american policy was equivocal. When it came to assad the russians dictated this policy. When you listen to kerry, what he said at the recent meetings in vienna, for the foreseeable future, we can see assad in power. The policy is to get rid of assad. Andrew, the last week or so we heard overtures that the white house with russians, maybe we Work Together and plan bombings against isis, command and control together. We have seen turkey reaching out particularly since the attack on the ataturk airport. Could this speed up the process saying the central issue will work on the rest of the issues . I think it must be terrifying to be a u. S. Ally in the middle east and experience the americans legitimizing the use of Russian Military power to achieve russian ends. I have to think that the fire of those Turkish Military which for 200 years have seen russia as an existential threat and fought four wars with russia. The Turkish Military must have seen that meeting between erdogan and the russians and said this is the straw that broke the camels back. Turn ski has been have much concerned over the role russia is playing in this part of the world. But the youth has allied itself with russia and allowed russia to dictate middle east policy. Charles right before we aired, john kerry spoke with lavrov, his russian counterpart. He was trying to be somewhat reserved. But he didnt seem to be upset by the events we are witnessing right now. We are watching and hearing actual gunfire. People are ducking. So far it has been bloodless, though reports of one explosion at a tv station and some high ranging official within the turkish government being killed. This is the first time we have heard this type of gunfire. Michael, go ahead. Its a good thing it was our guys. But to working with russia and syria, russia does not keep arms lent away from assad. Anything we do in syria that works with russia is benefiting assad. Its not likely something we should do. Assad remains a number one driver for recruitment. And it alienates the 80 sunni population in syria if we ally ourselves with russia and by extension assad. Charles it feels like in America Donald trump has been okay with russia going in there and together socalled heavy lifting and saying we are not sure if these socalled legibles are our allies. Whats your position on that. Im uncomfortable with that position. I think the u. S. Position with it comes to turkey, lets just focus on that. Its a very difficult position. We have to remember that its a nato ally. Erdogan was elected by the people. Sometimes we dont always like that. But i dont think we should be going around publicly talking about supporting a coup. That being said, the secular military generals doing this have seen turkey devolve into something that they are not comfortable with. And so the overall goal of supporting democracy and human rights and having a policy and having a turkish leader that is for democracy and human rights unequivocally is probably the position where we should be. The u. S. Position should be we are for the people, we are for democracy, and try to do a dance as much as possible. Chair sky news arabic saying the turkish chief of staff has been killed. We are hearing gunfire in istanbul. Well continue to bring you breaking news out of turkey. The Prime Minister said a group within the military is engaged in a coup attempt. It will all shake i asked my dentist if an electric toothbrush was going to clean better than a manual. He said sure. But dont get just any one. Get one inspired by dentists, with a round brush head. Go pro with oralb. Oralbs rounded brush head cups your teeth to break up plaque and rotates to sweep it away. And oralb delivers a clinically proven superior clean versus sonicare diamondclean. My mouth feels super clean oralb. Know youre getting a superior clean. Im never going back to a manual brush. By switching to xfinity x1. Rio Olympic Games show me gymnastics. X1 lets you search by sport, watch nbcs highlights and catch every live event on your tv with nbc sports live extra. Im getting ready. Are you . X1 will change the way you experience nbcuniversals coverage of the rio Olympic Games. Call or go online today to switch to x1. Charles a Turkish Military group reportedly seized power from the embattled turkish president. There are reports of tanks opening fire around the Turkish Parliament building. Michael pregent and mike baker will join us shortly on the phone. You have extreme expertise in this area of the world. It will be a while before we know how this shakes out. But from an initial looksee, a lot of experts say this could be good news for america. We dont know, its a fluid situation. I just got off the phone with an inside source before i got on the air and president erdogan has gotten on skype and asked people to go to the streets. And that hes still in power. Charles i have seen the photos of him on the internet on skype. But if someone is on skype, you are not going to get a lot of confidence from the guy in charge and you look out your window and the military has a tank in your front door. There are reports his seaside resort is surround by the military. The question becomes within the fractions within the army, who is in charge and whats going on. This is such an important region for the United States that i cant tell you how nervous our hearts are. Charles now as you hear gunfire and shots and maybe the turkish chief of staff has been killed. We hope it wont devolve into a massive civil war. I think it can be avoid. The military worked closely with the United States. We have our guys the military and presumably they will prevail. A turkey that is closer to the United States philosophically and ideologically would make an awful lot of sense in trying to control the chaos that exists in the middle east. Charles your initial assessment, its fluid to hear mustafas words. Whats your assessment. They lived through a lot of coups in the last few decades. Some are over and done with in blazing speed. You would hope that all the effort we put into the operation on the intelligence side with our liaison partner and the military side that those relationships that we worked so hard to build over the years will hold steady. You hope one of those individuals will give you have a heads up before Something Like this you know is coming down the pike. I believe it will evolve into more stability. I have a feeling this will be fairly well received by a significant part of the population there in turkey. The military views itself as the keeper of the flame of turkish stability. And part of our relationship with the military has been consistently i would say good. Its up and down. But unlike at times when Government Relations seem on the rocks when there are problems. Oftentimes on a working persons level, we have more consistency and strong relationships and i think that will play out here. Charles there are rumors erdogan has left the country. We are watching scenes and we are getting a sense at least from what we are looking at of jubilation. It looks like these folks are happy that someone who can clamp down on religious freedoms, someone who jailed journalists. The last couple elections have been questionable. This is not the democracy turkey envisioned itself to be. We are seeing the crowds live on the streets. Thats jubilation. Those arent the people erdogan called into the streets via skype. Those are the people support the coup from what it looks like. My gut tells me pro u. S. Military officers to insure democracy prevails in turkey. You had people roaming the streets beating up people for not adhering to ramadan in istanbul, in what used to be a secular capital. Religious police went in and both everybody up and they werent necessarily punished by the erdogan government. This is a good thing. Charles could this be equated to iran when the shaw was in power and the ayatollah came back . A different set of circumstances but the evolution of iran from a westerninfluenced nation to the darkest Islamic State . There is no question that there is something to it. What you have here is an erdogan who tried to change the secular environment that was created by ataturk and existed in turkey for a long time. There is no question he supported the attack. Well see if there is a civil war or not. Charles we are going to come back. But we are hearing jubilation in the streets. The breaking news, the countrys Prime Minister saying a group within the military engaged in an attempted coup. [announcer] is it a force of nature . Or a sales event . The summer of audi sales event is here. Get up to a 5,000 bonus on select audi models. The former operative obviously we will probably not know the outcome but turkey with a history of clues what should the west do because if there is a coop can we publicly support that against an ally. Surely is not a good thing that we support a military dictatorship coming into a country. Its hard to say if the coup leaders are part of democracy. The region with the least amount of democratization produces the most terrorist. Terrace. I would be concerned to see if the secular tour. I might expect to see more radical. They want to walk a fine line in the beginning. Charles how do we handle this from a military perspective, do you think we will still be able to use turkey as a staging area quacks do you think anything will change. They are saying everything will be a hereto do you think that will be true quacks. The administration at the White House Level tries to walk a fine line between the situations like this. In a way they are looking to cover their back side. But in reality the extremists is going to get much more radical simply because we come out at some point and continue to work with the secular military government. What we need to do and typically do regardless of what the public statements are is we look at what is in our best national security. Every country does. But we look at whats in our own national security. Frankly thats what we have. Charles we are watching live feed. There is gunfire. We are not sure where it is coming from. And then as soon as it subsides everyone gets up. Theres not a sense of panic there is a sense of jubilation. Maybe they are firing guns in the air. It is a very jubilant position right here. We were talking about the history there he comes in and he has a great early part because the economy is going very well and then he starts to go off the rails a little bit. I remember when he built this palace and everyone asked him not too. Was that the beginning of the discontent with him as a leader. Its an interesting analogy when he took over in egypt as a result of the democratic election there were 33 Million People on the streets and the second revolution. They were opposed to him because of the extreme islamization of the country. We are seen Something Like that in turkey. Theyre gonna say we are not going to support a military coup. On the other hand what we have to think about as they pointed out the National Interest of the United States. If in fact they can bring about stability in turkey and create an environment where turkey once again is a reliable ally than it seems to me that the United States might have to modify its position. Charles and the idea that he was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood has always rubbed a lot of americans the wrong way. Charles we will bring you the very latest on the terror attack in france. There is sad heartbreaking news. Eightyfour people are dead. You focus on making great burgers, or building the best houses in town. Or becoming the next highlyunlikely dotcom superstar. And us, well be right there with you, helping with the questions you need answered to get your brand new business started. Were legalzoom and weve already partnered with over a million new Business Owners to do just that. Check us out today to see how you can become one of them. Legalzoom. Legal help is here. Charles and out to france. Not to france. Innocent lives lost in the terror attack in nice. Could it had been prevented with tighter security or per valence surveillance quacks . We talk about the political stuff all the time but just the idea and the notion that someone have a rental of the and with no markings parked it for nine hours. Told Police Officers he was delivering ice cream and there was no refrigeration on it was still given the aok. People were thinking that is a direct result of political correctness. Thats right charles. That wasnt supposed to happen. When i heard about this horrific event that took place last night. They set up a security perimeter around the event. Its the same way we do in washington dc. We set up a perimeter and you never allow vehicles especially a box truck like that to make its way inside the perimeter to where people are. Says to me one there was a Security Breach where as some policefficer dropped the ball and didnt secure the area he was supposed to or be this was a planned event with someone on the inside and maybe they allowed this truck to get in here. I think the investigation has to come up with some very revealing facts as we go further into the week. Charles carl you had been warning about this kind of stuff. The idea that it was this successful and easy it is frightening. They are not getting the message. We are not getting it here or in france. This is gonna continue to be a problem until we recognize it. The way you fix it is you identify what defines radical islam versus standard. Draw the line. It will not be protected under First Amendment rights. I dont know what it is but we have to sit down and find out how to define it. Charles i think they might all reject bacon. Of course it is part of the political season it is a huge topic. It is going to be bigger on monday morning. We heard Newt Gingrich last night say test all american muslims. You want the muslims that are here to embrace the constitution and our freedoms and most of them do and what is frightening is the fact that we have to band together and recognize the problem. We need more intelligence like Hillary Clinton and need more forces on the ground but what you dont need is to delete the people here at home who want to retain our freedoms that dont identify. You need them on your side. They are the one that i get a call. They will be on the first line of defense. Charles president obama spoke on this a couple of hours ago. It was clear he was taking a shot at Newt Gingrich saying we cant talk about amending or removing parts of the constitution and as someone who defends the Second Amendment tooth and nail do you understand where they might think this is attack on the First Amendment . We have to define what it is. We have to see what they are trying to say what they are doing in the name of religion. Because this is doing harm to other people define what statute we need to define we have to divide it. There are plenty of peaceful muslims and plenty of non peaceful. Charles there is more coming up. Donald trump has chosen mike pence. What does he bring to the table. Some people are happy some peop Charles Donald trump has chosen mike pence as his number two. Just three days until the Convention Everyone is excited before it became a medicine, it was an idea. A wild whatif. So scientists went to work. They examined 87 different protein structures and worked for 12 long years. There were thousands of patient volunteers and the hope of millions. And so after it became a medicine, someone who couldnt be cured, could be. Me. Perfect driving record. Until one of you clips a food truck. Then your rates go through the roof. Perfect. For drivers with accident forgiveness, Liberty Mutual wont raise your rates due to your first accident. Liberty mutual insurance. Charles donald trump names his running mate. They applauded the choice of joining me joining me now is jillian mitchell. You all. Let me start with you jack. I know that you guys made a lastditch attempt to the never trump forces and that has been squashed. It looks like the table is set was a selection something of an olive branch. Most people think of him as powerful. We will get to that in a moment the Never Trump Movement remains very much alive. We have a surprise waiting for donald trump next week. I do think mike pence was a good selection. I certainly would not support uac. He pulls the Party Together now of course i wish any candidate wishes that trump didnt have to unify the party and that he would have the luxury of reaching out to someone who could appeal to swing voters under the circumstances i think its a good choice. That is the interesting thing here. Charles they would not like any of the choices. They become pretty hard down on him. He is against to the the environment. The whole litany if you well. They came out pretty hard against him. I think he is a poor choice. If you look at what happened i dont think its that controversial of an issue. You get to choose you do your business with paste on moral choices. Its pretty similar. They managed to turn that issue into something. He is the guy that did not handle controversy while the last time and now hes can be joining the most Controversial Campaign i think its a disaster. They are on the same page right there. Heres the thing. A lot of republicans are saying this just doesnt sound like donald trump. Here is a guy who was okay with obama care. Here is a guy who really seems like he is the antithesis of all the things that donald trump one on. Im sure those things were addressed and hes the type of guy that said you can get in to get in line or youre going to get out. He was at my first choice i dont think hes a bad choice but i think this is a party unifier for sure he is known. It was a politically correct choice. This is his first politically correct choice. Charles we are going to tweet back in december that said the calls to ban muslims is unconstitutional. That tweet was a governor pants. Governor mike pence. When they exercise their rights. He is one of the few conservatives that actually is going to be in the convention hall. Obviously his religious liberty stance in the stance that he is a social conservative as well is a good conservative overall. But that doesnt matter because general election voters dont do that pic and i know the nice attempt to make good with the conservatives of the base. With the conservatives im just gonna put out a front man. What is not going to buy it. And of course fireworks are still promised. You guys had one more trick up your sleep. They are getting ready for cleveland. 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Let me start with you you are the president of the Cleveland PolicePatrolmen Association and everyone is thinking just considering what we have seen at the donald trump rallies in the ambush on the dallas Police Officers, everyone is worried about what may happen we are worried about it as well. The potential for disaster is great. The potential for greatness is great as well. We look forward to the challenge and i think we are in pretty good shape right now. Charles i know these kind of things infuriate you particularly considering the atmosphere in this country we are on a powder keg and cake and some folks are trying to spark it. I was down there with chief brown about four weeks ago talking about Operation Blue shield which is bringing the cops into the communities and all of that with the advent of the five cops being assassinated that black lives could take time off and they should start worrying about the kids being killed in our inner cities. If you ask half of them why theyre there they wouldnt know. Lets be real about it. Black lives matter. Every hour there is a shooting. Lets start worrying about their lives. They divide in divide the police. The police are not there to hurt us. If theres bad cops you take them out. Its gone well beyond its bolster. I do agree that they are there to protect us however many of them are there who are harming us. Charles give us a percentage. Personally i know that human beings i would think the amount that have done things wrong are so minute so when you think that many of them are there to harm doesnt had paint an awful picture of the people that do keep us safe . It paints a picture of truth. There they are three times likely to be stopped and by times likely to be shot. Charles some of the data is incorrect. Its very important to put it into context. Black lives matter is a peaceful group. Charles we have seen video of the protest saved by them like bacon. A year and a half ago. Thats what upsets me. We have videos of cap saying lets shoot the nword. You are trying to make a national movement. Charles there are things that they were throwing things at the Police Officers. They showed tremendous restraint. Its one thing. They are going out protesting and that uncle and belong to any group. The people who are for the element that is within black lives matter that wants anarchy. And they are using the Police Department and say its racist as well. If youre gonna take a small percentage of people who are doing wrong with black lives matter and make it about the large group youre doing the same thing that you are accusing us of. I would like you to weigh in on this. First of all let me say this and i like eric a lot. He must be drinking the crazy delayed because let me tell you right now i was in dallas lack week and i attended a couple of those funerals and let me tell you something about every one of those Police Officers nine of them neither one of them have ever mistreated an africanamerican or anything like that and they gave their life. And you know how they gave their life. They gave their lives protecting black lives matter. We dont want to talk about that though. All that we want to talk to is the one or two incidents where there has been some rogue cops. I will be the first and we have a couple of rogue cops on the force and were doing everything we can to get rid of them. Let me tell you right now black lives matter and the new black Panthers Party is not doing anything to solve the problems of the community. Charles in the meantime we are going to go back to turkey. News is developing. We are getting some updates there. We have a military coup. We will go live to the ground and see what is happening. Turkey is of course the American Red Cross urgently needs blood and platelet donations and asks donors to schedule an appointment to give now. Your Blood Donation matters to the patients counting on lifesaving transfusions. Visit redcrossblood. Org charles breaking news out of turkey. A military coup attempt trying to seize power. The Prime Minister of turkey calling it a terrorist act. This was according to ap reports that gunfire at the expense will bridge. We have back with us are reporters we had been pretty guarded with word so far. Everyone is good to be worried and wondering where this might end. Potential outcomes because they are no stranger to the sort of twos. The west will probably stay at arms length for their time being. Turkey is 700 dash seven and half Million People. If they begin to employed it could have a devastating effect on Global Security charles how do you see as working out over the weekend. I think its can be a bloodbath. The Turkish Military cant afford to lose this. And they have got to get him and the Prime Minister under guard or dead. They cant afford to lose. Is there any chance you could go to germany or somewhere like that. I think as long as he is alive. His supporters will continue to resist Turkish Military domination. Charles it has been a very eventful week. We appreciate your expertise. We appreciate you watching every night. Every night. A shooting in dallas left five officers dead and two wounds. The video went viral showing officers killing black men in louisiana and minnesota. The officer just shot number his arm. To learn what really happens during confrontations like that, we used to have to rely on eyewitness accounts. But now video changes everything. Sometimes it reveals bad police, some