Office has fallen to 43 with a disapproval rating with 5 . The post writing of the findin, quote, president bush had a at the end of the his firefight year of presidency and otr post warii esidents. The numbers getworse. When asked who they trust do a beer job with the nations approximate . Respondents have the president now tied with Congressional Republicans at 41 . Only a year ago, the president had a 15point lead. Now itsgone. All gone. The president also trails republicans on the ecomy by fo points. Last year at this time, prident obama held an 18point lead on economic issues. The revelations of scandalafter scandal the declarations that have turbid out to be lies and the failed rolloutf the federal Health Care Law has contributed to his nos in hipoll, jay carney today, admitted that the president s sinking numbs a can hurting his credibility and effectiveness with congress. Does he real still have the power to move the public, to move the congress on these big issues . When he Approval Ratings continue to sink . Again, ed, you wont hear an argumentrom me that everyone in washington hass taking a hit. More poor timing coming for the administration. President obama himself praisee the fictionanal cgressman Frank Underwood fr hbos house of cards the ruthless character playedy oscar winner kevin spey who maniputes his way to the presidey through lies d ultimatelyurder. I wishhings were ruthlessly true. Like kevin spacey. Our first guesest tonight, voted in favor of the budget compromise in the house. He als stresses the deal eases the burdenaused b the sequeste joining us now scott, member of the budget committee, congressman, good to he you with us,you an many of your colleaes in the house, particularly those who style yourself as conservatives wrestlehtily onthis, what was the point to cast yourote to supportit. Thank you, lou. A critical topic for our countr the alternatives before were this, if i voted no, we wou ha hadontinuing resolutions where we fund things that didnt need to be funding. I have been among i think the strongest advocates for turning to regular order, where we have a topline budget and we have agreed to that in this agreemt and work through all of the apopations bill. If the senate approves, almost a certaint they will approve it tomorrow and move it on, regular order wi be restored. Were talking about 85 billion against a budget in x sesz of 3. 3 trillion that doesnt amount. This isnt small potatoes. In terms of financial numr. But in terms of returning regular order, and establishing a budget for two years, after successive continuing resotions at make a mockery of the budgetocess, this is a very big deal, isnt it . It is really a big deal and im in a sean ofblic service. This is really the first time that ihave really felt that i could come home and come before this incredible district tho serve. So we have a lot of defense contracts and this isnt ju protect the he base here, lou. I have the privilegof working with our general. Told my colleagues the day we were wrestling with this, if youre inclined to vote no, i said come withme and hear the direct andery real daamage that can continuing resolutions combined with sequestration are doing to our military an the fiscal conservative, i said letget back onegular order here and get on to mandatory spending. And at isour reaction, coressman, and your thought and your concerns in the cost of living benefits for retiring military personnel under the age of 62 . The provision that would cut benefits. Lou i answered the question today, i was talking to a group of our ship repair folks, no more than 200 peoplen e room, the very last questn was on this, i knew that this question was coming and i told my colleagues, m republican colleagues that were going to have to wrestle with this, because its a ruction, whats not being shared in t media, when the Service Member does reach 62, that cost of living increa crease where they didnt participate for all of these years potentially, they get caught up at eagef 62. Wounded warriors, theres no reduction. Theres reduction of 1 . Inflation mus 1 . Its a difcult decision, lou. Thats why it was not easy for me to vot for this. I pulled this vong card in my coat pocket out, i have choice, greeor y or red for no, this isnt i wish i had a different choice buttothere. I looked at the sum of all of this, whats important here, u, now were going to return to regular order, theres not excuse for any member of congress, republican o democrat, to g back on mandatory. Fair enenough. Any excuse for the republicans the democrats to put the country and the politics of capitol hill in position to shut downthe government after the new year as you move to the next issue is the debt ceiling . I struggle with this as a bunessman, im still an owner of a busess,t really deeply affect our business if we went into any kindof defaul but at the same time, i dont want to enable what io despise, its mol. The direction were going. I understd. But people are just outright sick o seeg the Republican Party and in each case its en the Republican Party has had the choice. You have shownreat judgment, i think a level, goodheaded common sense in dealing with whats symbolic numbers t return to order. Surely youre not telling me the Republican Leadership would throw that all away on the debt ceiling, why not go to the polls with your arguments and stop this nonsense . Herewe go, lou, we right on track, i thk any candidate, an uncome bent or a new candidate, theed to be asked, what specificado you propose to get mandatory spending . Dont let those candidates get awayrom that difficult question thats got to be answered. That question cant be posed until nextnovember. Im asking you right now, is your leadership committed of to avoiding a shuown of the government again . Yes, they are. What we need to do im going take what we can. In the time were otted. I understand. I understand. We shouldnt shut the government down at the same time, lou, we got i would urge the republicans, get ou and get a ground game going and move some voters to the polls, because thats where the answers lie not in parliamentary maneuvers, i appld the Republican Leadership for moving forward in this direction and specifically, congressman paul ryan who pulled out the i was proud ohim. I wont be veryroud if it results in another shutdownin the debt ceiling, coressman. I donthink thatsoing happen, lou. I ont. Wll take that as assurance and it welcome. Congressman, thank you. Hank you smuch. Up next, the tea party, well, they say that john bey ne declared war on them. Well be talking with former publican nationalal Committee Chairman mike duncan about hn boehn boehners job security and by the way, how is the war on coal gog . Not well as the president might like. Might like. This is the quicksilver cash back card from capil one. Its not the limit the cas i earnvery month card. 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And the naal republican congssional committee, also, rticipating, creating a version with the president holding a card, reading hashtag dot worry. Because i got a trillion coin to fix all this. The teapay is in an allt war with House Speaker john boehner, for whatever reason, he dedecide start the feud, escalated it yesterday. Saying some gups lostll credibility. Tea part y forites fired back. Saying, boehner delived what they call a smug rant. Joining us now to talk about the not so civil war within the Republican Party and much more, mike dunca the former chairman of the Republican National committee, he now heads up of the american coalitn fr clean coalelectrity. Great to have you here. This president has declared war on not only foss fuels but coal in particul, he says if you own coal and if y gny planfor coal youre out of business. Youre having kwiemt a different experience s coa is alive and well in the United States. Parts of the country certainly undetand feel like they have been inhe war,astern kentucky, where we lost over 6,000 jobs in the last go years. Why in the worl is the industry putting up with it, there was a time when you saw people hitting, i mean, getting screwed like this and they stood up for it you know, and the politicians had a clear, loud voe, tyre just getting rolled here . The industr is fighting back, were fighting back in court and in congress, but congress has been somewhat dysfunctional, if you win in congress you till have theeto threat. Hes taking this through the regulation process, hes using the epa standards and hes getting ready put out standards for existing coal plants. And wearing just everybody out with the epa. You have cleaned up your act. Youre using it in much cleaner fashion and yet the epa says, the hell with you. The last 90 of the particles have been removed from coal in this cntry. Coal is affordable, eliable and increasingly clean. Congress, its getti interesting right now. Ker boehner attacking the tea party, specific heritage action, e club for growt these outfits, freedom work whs going on, your party is starting to show somegrit, some life, and some spark . I kind of like it to be honest with you. Were only one good candidate away from the president of the United States from having unity within our party. Were having a free throw of ideas, were bringingmore people into the party. But there seems to be a negative. When the speaker decides hes going to shut dn a wing, and you know, theyre sang a war has been declared, meanwhile, i dont see what the alternative was to what boehner and ryan did. And by the way, i spo fully the tea party, ihink thre e of the strongest and most vibrant expressionsof this country. So, what is your view here . I support a big ten. I also understand and expect government to work. Thats what you saw in the house this time and i think youll see thatn the senate. It may be a differentprocess. But the ammrican people want us to have a budget. More deliberate, are you kiddg me . Yogot t be kding. Mike, i got to tell you, theres thing dlib ra tif about it the leadership on the Immigration Reform and the Republican Leadership in the house he senate has screwed up everything they have touched. Theyre acting, i think, bizarrely, dont you . I think well get a budget. The American People want the government to work. All right. Mike duncan, god to have you. Tha you. Win that war. Were working o that. We would like to tag ake a moment to give you a sneak preview of ts book its called june heefl winning back the country by empowering ideas. This new book, itebuts on january 7th. Is now available for preorders online, beat t holiday rush, be the first in 2014, to get to amazon, tony one of the okstes in your neighborhood, to order jt upheaval. Were coming right back. Stay with us. This white house haseen spending a lot of time in the shads. Delaying and deferrin rules and regulations. The a team takes that up. The a team takes that up. Mike goodwin, [ male announcer ] e new new york is open. Open to innovation. Open to ambition. Open tboldids. Thats why n yor has a new plan dons of x free zones all across the state. Move re, expand here, or start a new business here and pay no taxes for ten years. Were new york. If theres something that creates more jobs, and ows more businesses. Were open to it. Start a taxfree business at startupny. Com. The wash tone postfact checker today released today its top ten lies of year, thats a lot of lies. We thought because its television we would bring you the ve worst, lets start with mber five, 5, president obamas claim that the day after benghazi he personally acknowledged that it was an act of terrorism, not so much. And number four, darre issa, his claim that then secretary of state Hillary Clintonad sign a cable in 2012 ordering a drawdown of security for the coulate in libya, not so. Number the three, reas reasserting himself th the claim e capitol hill january tors would be gettg a pay cut when the sequester kicked in, fox news cntributor pat cadel. And former member of brad blakeman. Would president would president bush ever three o of five what would you say his record would have been . Ll, i dont think he would have a record anywhere close . Because president bushdnt lie in order to use it to get ything done. This president s iucement on obamacare was said on several lies, you can keep your doctor affordabl health care. The you see t value in signing up, these are not merely sstatements, these are lies. When the president is not lying hes eceeding his authority. Patthis Washington Post story i thought it was a blockbuster over the years, carrying out policies that theyve thought would be too controversial an would not to the benefit of the president during an election y yes, well, the most Transparent Administration is one the most manipulative since Richard Nixon if you like your plan or doctor you can keep it, probly the biggest lie of this century, and it speaks to everhing they have done on health care and regulations which is well fool the people the main stream press for the most part, theyet us get away with it and well lie our heads off if we want and thats what politics in governmentas come down. How much trouble ishis president in now . Focuses on administration that is described as ethically squalid, its almost imcomprehense of their conduct, your thoughts on where they go from here . Their idea, the bon of ust is broken and i believe the lie which could have been the lie of any last four years,ecause you say, hes been saying it all along, you can keep your plan, once thatond of trust is broken, it seems to me that its very ha to take the president at his word on anytything, that what we teach our children. If y lie, no one will trust you again. If you cant spell, no one will trust your facts. When the penalty of the United States says things tha e untrue, why should we believe him on iran or the next budget or anything . And well be taking that int in st a momment. The my len yals, i thewo latest polls, the my len yals are abandonin thisredent at a dramatic rate. Its say sounding. 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Some ofs to be govern in a world that they wish it to be, but we have divided government, we got to rule in reality, thisudget deal may not be the best but its a step in the right direction, getting ba to regular order. I agree with yo i agree with you. But what i dont understand is so of the condescending and nasty attitude on the part of karl roves, the paul ryans and michigan mccoells, theyre talking to fellow citizens, fellow republicans and i got to ll y, they look ke fools when they do that. These people werent smart in 12 and they havent learned a damn thi in 2013. Look, we cant be eang our own. We need to be uniti. In 14, united we stand, divided we fall, makes no you have pointed it out, lou, it makes no sense to vilify your own, we havenough ammunition against e democrats,lets unite and be successful in2014. What do you thi, mike, any more effective than ey have been . I suspect some of this lou is personal. Theres a lot of personal bad blood. Some of the groups have been criticizing him personally by going after the republican caucus, paul ryan probay feels, too. Theyre sensitive, arent they . Michael, thats too bad. But i do think we shou never dicount the personnels. Am not discounting it. Taking it all personally. My goodness. Our rulers and our rulers have a sensitivity problem, because after all, nothing is worse is watching the otr party. For the republican or democrat . Thats right. Nothing worsthan watching t political lds of both parties contend the lead. The benghazi thing the administration has lead from day one about this. Hn boehner w has it in his power, refuses to have select committee x, why, because god only knows why. Its this washington inside game. We he a regular order budget. We have no real deficicuts. The tea party,r all of their problems, theyre right about one thing, American People ar as d as hell. Mad as hell, t seemingly passive as hell. I cant a time when the issues were bigger, working men and women in this country were in greater jeopardy as a result of the policies of both parties. Im talking about the ouourcing of jobs. Absolutely. I an, you go throh the list. Its disgusting. And here we are. Well continuthis its great to see you, pat. Thanks for being here. Brad, thank you, sir. Michael, good toaveyou here. Th stunning reasons why our prison systemo expensive and provides perks and punishg views. Views. Wereoming [ale announcer ] new new york is ope open to innovation. Open to ambition. Open to boldids. Thats why n york has a new plan dozens of tax free zones all across the ste. Move here, expand here, or start a new business here anpay no taxes for ten years. Were new york. F theres something tt creates more jobs, and ows more businesses. Were open to it. Start a taxfree business at startupny. Com. Its lots of things. All waking up. Connecting to thelobaphenomenon we call the internetf everything. 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Not so offensive to have these facilies but theyre inappropriate in any facility, i think,ut theact is, thes we dont make that discrimination and that convicted murderers who ar well behaved inside can get transferred to pts of the prisonhat you can see and mock the very idea of justice. Good time for a rapist or murderer, this is ho does all of this begin . You know, sheriff joe arpaio, out in arizona, he had pi mp suits or has pink jump suits for prisoners, hedoesnt give them any meal beyond aandwich for lunch and hes considered to be a very harsh and hardharacter for so doing, how do we get to a point thats become an entertainment land formany . Well, justice stops at the prison door, thats the irony, ths wreits suosed to start, but where its supposed to be stop. But the essence of punishment is the daily experience of it. And so, what we have our facities that dont discrimite based on the nature of the rime, the only discriminate how they behave once you are there. The auor of thi book,as we listen to yo do you believe in Capital Punishment . I do. Based on the number of people, how do they kill people . Aristotle foundn the extremes. The attitude in which he kills. The are the sadistic serial killers in applying painto their victi. The callous who dontake any pleasu or dont care. I snt time with pele who with shoers who mow everyone down on the street. When you shot, did you think that there was a whole group there . Yo would be killing people whose mothers, children, would be grieving . And they paused. The love between us was palpable. One of them i cant repeat on the air and the other one said, shouldnt have gotten in the way of my bullet . Thats a coldness. One part of it is the measurement, the attitude and the other is, as you point out is the consequence, tse who are multiple killers one killed with intent, premeditation. Capital punishment. Premeditation isnt the issue. A grea thinker this issue pointed out that, an abused wife ca canmull it over, she nt escape with her kids, she kills her chchiren. Someone sees a child fishing off the bridge, spontaneously, for sport, pushes him off to watch him struggle and drown. The premeditated kifrl, the abused suse is less deserving of punishment. Premedition isnt the issue. Its either sadistic satisfaction or the vulnerability of the victims. Find, first of all, your point to be exact stinction that you draw, at the same time, its not satisfying. Its not satisfying. The punishment, you know, a guy this is e quicksilver cash back card from capil one. Its not the limit the cash i earnvery month card. Its not the i only earn decent rewards at the gas station card. Its the nogames, nosigning up, everydayrewarding, kungfufighting, silverightninginabottle, bringinghomthebacon cash back card. This is the quicksilver card from capital one. Unlimited 1. 5 cash back on eve purase, everywhere, every single day. So ask yourself, whats in your wallet see who does good work and compare costs. It doesnt usually work that way with health care. But with unitedhealthcare, i get information on quality rated doctors, Treatment Options and estimas for how much ill pay. That helps me, and my guys, make better decisions. I dont like guesses with my business, and definily not with our health. Innovations that workfor. Thats heah in numbers. Itedhealthcare. House minority leader nancy losi speaking ou yesterday ainst the depoation of Illegal Immigrants in an interview with lemundo pelosi said quote, our view the law is if somebodys here without suicie documentation thats not reason for deportation. If someone has broken thelaw or committed a felony or something, that is a different story. Th big sign language at nelson pandelas funeral service, was among a mob of people who accosted two people and burned them to death. He never sod trial because auorities determin that he was not mentally fit. That appears to occurred more than once. A new report by Norwestern University lidging chronic marijuana to brain abnormalities similar to schizophrenia. The defects last at least a few years after people stop using the drug. Myext guest taking on both republicans and democrats in her brandnew show, airing at 9 00 p. M. Eastern right here on the fox business network, joining us no host of the independent. Kennedy. You ve been so sweet. Our offices are right next door to each other. Were glad have you in the neighborhood. Thank you. Youre a delight. You got a terrific show. Sie i am a registered independent, im sort of pulling for you. Lot of people out there i think share your views. You have a l of fans, you make sense. So many people out there going issue by issue. And we welcome them, every night, for a nice discussion. Now, your show, i mean youre talking about many of the same issues, youre talking aut a president that has lied overhe course of four years, youre talking about a Republican Party that cant win an election it seems, at least a pridential election, certainly hasnt for the last two and doesnt understand what a ground operation is, how do you deal with those issues . W tend not to not think about them in party terms. People have been doing forso long. Growing up wt dohe republicans say . Who do i agree with . One de or the other. And you know, iound living in southern california, there are so many people who go issue by issue and their views change. Whetheits immigration or health care and you know, thinng about what is within the scope of government and oftentimes as youre political mros my evolves at scope narrows. Thats fine. Southern california, an entirely reasonable place to live. In fact, it had 13 over 13 in taxes, sales xes, incncome taxes. I mean, its a pretty striking place which is what makes people so independent. Ey see this government regulation working against them in tir dailydecisions. Lot of the regulation in california directly affects the poor. So ifyou consider yourself a robin hood populous, you should be a libertarian. Not part of the libertarian party. Buyou want less government. I celebrate that. You know, celebrating it, youve got a lot of company, fewer people than er, at least in recent history, are now selfidentifying as republicans, just a few more are selfidentifyi as democrats. And some selfidentifying as independents. Young people are leaving obama. Can you beeve the millennis . He was ner reallythere for them to begi with, ande always took the youthote for granted. But youre looking at a group of ople who have such incredible easy access to information d when ideas reach critical mass, they all know about it instantly. Thank youkennedy. Come back on. Thank you. The independents. Monday through wednesday, friday, right ere. Next, he played ralphie in the llywood classic and he bringing the story to broadway, peter billingsley. Hollywood megaproducer and look out broadway, hes next, right here. Broadway. Male announcer ] how could switchgrass in aentina, change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south africa, and the aerospae industry in the u. S. . At t. Rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. It just one reason over of our mutual funds beat their 10year lipper average. T. Rowe price. Invest with cfidence. Request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investmeninformation, risks, fees and expenses to read and conder carefully before investing. Onef the most iconic christmas films making its way to the broadway stage, of course, a christmas sto the musical it continues itsour this week at Madison Square garden. Per billingsley, 30 years ago, is now a successful broadway and hollywood producer and were delighted to have you here, and this is terrific. You aociated yourself with so many Great Stories and successes. How does it feel to continue to move a christmas story into, well, into broadway a into lives of so many people. Its really gratifying. The 30th year since it came out. It was a little film. Nobody wanted to make it. It took 12 years to get it o the ground. It didnt make a lot of money. Really . No. I go an entire i suspect a lot of folks at home, i have entirely different perfect tif. Because it plays every year. Tbs runs t this 24hour maratho of it. And non of it imagined it could ve come here. Over the years, people, mae u remake it. Dontremake good movies. The notion of a musical was really intriguing. It folls the tone. We take big musical set pieces from iconic scenes from the fill zblm broadway a big success for you. Yes. Imean, what is the secret, i mean, you know, there are a lot of folks in iconic movies who go on and dont do much in show siness you have dne immensely well in every medium you push, what is the secret . Well, you know, its true. I had a really good faly and that was honestly the key and i was raed very well and i had an incredible experience getting a chance to work on things. It was always viewed as a privileg iturd into a businessnow. Disney, nickolodeon generation. I started doing commercials. Having fun, always seems to me, is an important thing to anythi. It is. You said the movie wasnt particular paicularly that successful then, yo must have made money with those reruns . No. Those contracts. Those residuals are from that time before cable. I get the joy of getting watch the filmver and over again. Now get the jo of producing the sical. Were in our fifth year. We were nominated for three tonys last year. Its a very highquality show. We enjoy it. We really, really recommend you see the musical. Its spectacular and were delighted to see you. And i think you may havejust given us toreke a very good movie. You must consider those residuals that dont come. Update the contract firs thats right. Tnks so much. Thank you for having me. All t best. A christmas story the musical running at Madison Square garden for three weeks, dont miss this was the year of obamacare. Gornment shtdown. The government shutdown. John i did notice that spending and kept going on and poor people helped in our government lied and lied about it. No one is listening to your telephon and many policies are eager to go to work. This is notthe time to be a silent spectator. The left was eager to pass more gun control