But he is eager to have even a photo op with the iranians. The president today at the u. N. General assembly declared that he is ready to negotiate with iran. The country that has been statesponsored with terrorism for 30 years and a call for the destruction of israel. I do believe that if we can resolve the issue around Nuclear Programs, the backend server is a major step down a long road towards different relationships. One based on mutual interests and mutual respect. And i have made it clear and more recently to president mohammed, that america prefers to resolve his concerns over Irans Nuclear program is peaceful way. Lou the iranians rebuffed this effort, seeking at least a handshake or a few friendly words, apparently. Something his administration was prepared to call in opening trade we will explore how far the Obama Administration has gone in regards to some progress or any progress with the iranians and why mr. Obama continues to disappoint world leaders. Also tonight, the kenyan governments fourday standoff at a nairobi will finally ended. Kenyas president saying that he has been ashamed and defeated the Al Qaeda Linked terrorists were believed to be responsible for more than 70 murders and take a look at this. As you can see behind me, you can hear the firing and some of these rounds. Lou we will be bringing you much more from nairobi and washington. Turning to pakistan, a massive earthquake there at the countries northwestern region. Fortyfive people were killed, the u. S. Geological survey measured the earthquake as a 7. 8 magnitude. Tremors can be felt hundreds of miles away in the indian capital of new delhi. So powerful that it caused the seabed to rise up to create a small mountain like wave in the arabian sea. Well have much more tonight on the powerful earthquake and the latest in the aftermath after the devastation of the typhoon in rebuilding their lives. The death toll rising to 25. Thirtysix fatalities reported in vietnam. Twenty dead in the philippines. Thousands are missing at this hour. Despite the warnings of israeli Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu. President obama directed his secretary of state sit down with his iranian counterpart in the highest level talks held between united the United States and iran in more than 30 years. Mr. Obama stated his desire to chart a more moderate path and to talk about relations between iran and the United States and the iranian Nuclear Program. But so far, no progress has been made. Just two hours after the statements, the Iranian Regime declined to offer to have an encounter between president obama and president mohammad. On the sidelines of the United Nations general assembly. A senior obama official said that it is too complicated for the iranians to do at this point. President obama left no stone unturned in todays speech to the United Nations from syria to israel to egypt, iraq and afghanistan and the arab spring. The president press for peace, but warned of u. S. Power. He countered american exceptionalism and claim that america is a safer place since he became president. But outside the president s wideranging focus, it remains on iran. Chief correspondent and henry has our report. After days of vague statements, white house officials made clear that president obama was willing to have a handshake or informal meeting with new iranian president on the sidelines of the u. N. General assembly. Robots could proved to be too great. But i do believe that it deserves to be tested he continued just a piece, no to war. Reporter secretary of state john kerry will meet later this week with the Iranian Foreign minister. I dont believe that this history can be overcome overnight. The suspicions run too deep. But i do believe that if we can resolve the issue of Irans Nuclear program, that can serve as a major step down a long road towards a different relationships. It could be an extremely long road of drawnout talks that allow iran to will meet with mr. Obama at the white house next monday. They think that soothing words and actions will enable them to continue. Even though he is not speaking of you in until next tuesday, he made sure that his voice was heard today from israel. We will not be proved by half measures that merely provide a smokescreen. Reporter he sent conflicting signals by declaring his goal is not regime change. While also insisting that he is willing to take military action in the mideast. We are taking military force to secure our interests in the region. It was the president s initial well but reluctance to follow through on it that put them on defense ahead of these meetings, though Administration Officials insist it was the stick of potential force that got Bashar Alassad to the negotiating table to admit that he had chemical weapons. Now there must be a Strong Security resolution to verify that the assad regime is keeping its commitments. And there must be consequences if they fail to do so. That there are already indications that russia will block any attempt of the u. S. To add have the threat of military force to any u. N. Security resolution, raising questions about whether there would really be any heat to make sure that Bashar Alassad turns over his weapons. Lou ed henry. Thank you very much. For more on the speech of the at the United Nations, i am joined by ambassador john negroponte, the first director of National Intelligence serving under george w. Bush than five times in ambassador. Great to have you with us. Thank you. Your reaction to president s speech today, first at the general assembly. Well, i thought it was a complete statement but this policy towards the middle east, one thing that caught my attention was that there was specific in regards to the immediate diplomatic objectives, namely the iranian Nuclear Program and then also the middle east is process between israel and the palestinians. Lou the president spoke of the iranian Nuclear Program for whatever relationship might result in this exploiting of the two nations. That seems on another level to be the most difficult. What are your thoughts . Its kind of a double edged doubleedged sword because i see on the one hand if you negotiate about the Nuclear Issue and he reached some kind of resolution, maybe the price the president is willing to pay for that is placing less emphasis on the other objectives that we had. On the other hand, there is no doubt about it that it could be a meaningful discussion about the Nuclear Issue and especially when the talks take place between secretary john kerry and his iranian counterpart later this week. If we could get that moving in the right direction, this would be a Significant Development indeed. Lou Benjamin Netanyahu urging realism and insisting that there be rationality here with the u. S. Or european thoughts between the two nations, as they seem to be struggling towards one another, at least in the short term. I thought the president s speech was rather complete. Secondly, i thought that in talking about our core interests and our willingness to keep the use of force on the table is an element of national inference in the region, i thought that those were strong doses of realism. Lou would you say that that is the most rational of u. S. Interests by the president in the region . Well, i certainly thought it was complete and comprehensible. He didnt make it very complicated. These are the two things we really want, here are the four or 5 inches and anyone into a more general discussion and so forth. Democracy was sort of third place with the promotion, which i thought was a realistic approach. Lou certainly in the region and the case of iran and certainly syria as well. Going forward, you served amongst the five ambassadors, one to the United Nations and how realistic is it to expect that the russians will not walk and after in the Security Council for meaningful resolution . Well, if youre talking about the syrian situation, it will be a problem. My view is that we always start out under estimating the amount of time that it it will take to work out these resolutions. Even if its moderately successful, it will be painstaking and timeconsuming. The president s folks all started using this word opening as they try to garner some support amongst the iranians for a sideline meeting at the margin as i would like to instruct it. Im glad it didnt happen, i dont think the ground is sufficiently well prepared. I cant imagine one benefit that has come out of that other than this sensational photographs and high hyper speculation about the significance of a chance encounter of the u. N. Premise. Lou going forward, will the United States be able to Work Together constructively in the region . I think it could be an effort that is made to do that. The russians have to stick with it, we cant do that with others. We have had experience and we have had to work hard and subsequently when you could do serious negotiations. This appears to be one of those times. Its an opportunity. I was being very careful. Ambassador john negroponte. Much more on the president s address to the United Nations and his efforts at an opening with the iranians. We will continue our coverage throughout tonights broadcast. Much more straight ahead. Were coming right back remap democrats and republicans, conservatives and liberals. Is our country ready for a third party. Bestselling author brad thor joins us to tell us why he thinks conservatives stand by the gop coming up next. [ villain ] well mr. Baldwin. It appears our journey has come to a delightful e. Then i better use the capital one purchase eraser to redeem my venture miles for this trip. Purchase eraser . Its the easy way to erase any recent travel expense. I just pick a charge, like my flight with a few taps, its taken care of. Impressive baldwin. Does it work for hotels . Absolutely thank goodness. Mrs. Villain and i are planning our. You scare me. And i like it. Lets go whats in your wallet . [ male announcer ] staying warmnd dry has never been our priority. Our priority is, was and always will be serving you, the American People. 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Well, what you are looking at now is obviously senator ted cruz, live pictures of senator cruz on his fifth hour of speaking against obamacare on the senate floor. His speech is an effort to stall Senate Democrats that would defend obamacare from a government funding bill. He is facing opposition from his own party over his speech and over his planned filibuster, over the very idea of contending on the issue of defunding obamacare. But he vows to continue until he could no longer stand it. My next guest supports his speech and says real conservatives need to take back the Republican Party. Joining in now is the New York Times bestselling author, brad thor. He is also, in addition to a brilliant fiction writer, a conservative. It is good to have you here. You have to say that senator cruz is giving it one heck of a try. At destaing of the bridge alone. Yes, he is. As a conservative, its nice to see people in the Republican Party doing this. Instead of saying, let this fall where they may. This is a really important moment for us. As conservatives we have someone along with rand paul and a handful of others are willing to stick it to the establishment in washington dc and im happy to see this. Lou rand paul also be coming back speak to give the senators some reprieve. Some respite from it all. At the end of the day, they are absolutely overmatched by the hour of establishment and the leadership in the establishment of the Republican Party and the leadership in the senate. Are they . Well, they are. Were talking about the funding of obamacare and i would like to see conservatives defund the gop. I dont think any conservative should spend a dime on them. We ought to target people that contribute directly to their campaign. The we have this big thing, is it worth it, and are they really going to shut down the government. Lets be clear that the gop are terrible storytellers. No storytellers in the Republican Party. Not good enough. They can make this case not only within the party, but with the American People. We hear a lot about the shutdown in 1996, a lot of revisionist history. We picked up two seats in the senate in 1996, in them mannerly control 56 of the class and 62 of the senate. If that happened today the the day the democrats have 60 of the senate. We got that kind of increase, we would have eight seats. So lets go, lets shut it down, lets vote our principles instead of smart politics to continually move it. We have bob dole, john mccain, mitt romney. They cant win. So when we listen to the gop . Lou thats a great question. The issue becomes how we can see that the construction of a third party and are you prepared for that. You and i have chatted about this before. If you buy a new house and you dont like the countertops, you dont take a wrecking ball to the whole house. We can take over the party if we control the precinct and that means that the local level. We need to do more than just this, they need to get involved in their neighborhood, politics at a base level. Because if we control the precinct, we will control the parties. And we will send people with their values and principles up through the system, that is where we will end up and we wont have to worry about Mitch Mcconnell and john mccain and stuff like that bring up the country press. Lou where is the leadership right now . Senator rand paul, and outstanding senator and an unlikely candidate for his partys nomination. But who is there to guide this party and these interests that are so divergent. John mccain, lindsey graham, i dont even know what planet they are from. Jeff lord had about how everything that happened to ted cruz happened to him as well. He was working against him as well on the initiatives he wanted to achieve. Its like what happened to reagan, do something right, keep it up,. The world is, according to the president , more stable than it was five years ago. I just want to tell you is we wrap up the president s speech. Eventually people are going to wake up here and say enough with this. They make this stuff up. The world is not a better place. Rawness clips to a bomb. He with the ambassador, before the segment. Where was obama in 2009 with the green revolution . We can help those young people overthrow this. He was mia. All he cared about wasnt ousted dictator. It took a moments two weeks before he responded to a green revolution and we lost a great opportunity. Lou brad, thank you for being here. Up next, no talk to guide the markets. We will be talking about that next great and later, americas welfare state. The shocking numbers in tonights chalk talk. The numbers that no one seems to want to talk about that will define our future. Nascar is about excitement. But tracking all the action and hearing everything from our marketing partners, the media and millions of fans on social media can be a challenge. Thats why we partnered with hp to build the new nascar fan and media engagement center. Hps Technology Helps us turn millions of tweets, posts and stories into realtime Business Insights that help nascar win with our fan. Amelia. Neil and buzz for teaching us that you cant create the future. By clinging to the past. And with that youre history. Instead of looking behind. Delta is looking beyond. 80 thousand of us investing billions. In everything from the best experiences below. To the finest comforts above. Were not simply saluting history. Were making it. At od, whatever business youre in, thats the business were in. With Premium Service like one of the best ontime delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatever it takes to make your business our business. Od. Helping the world keep promises. Lou on wall street stocks finishing mixed dow down 67 points s p down 4, nazdaq up 3, volume picking up. Shares trade today. Up from 3. 1 yesterday, joining me now s p capital iq chief equity strategist sam stovall. 4 sessions in a row losers. What a difference a week makes after fed decided to sit on their hands market took off. But i think, really what happened. You had a lot of investors said i want to lighten up before the more as of second half of september, lighten up they did. Very light volume, markets drifting lower. Lou were hearing from the fed Bank President s in my career i first heard fed Bank President s s holding like oracle and these folks, i have not heard anyone Say Something compelling original at all, what is going on . I am not sure if this increases tran person see is less confusing than greenspan speak, at end of the day you do not really know what they are thinking from st. Louis, saying a possibility we could start tapering program in october but William Dudley from new york fed said they could keep the bond buying if for some time. Lou if they dont read minutes of fed meeting they have no concept of the vote at that said meeting for policy direction from their chairman. Agreed upon by concern suss by all of us consensus, this is bizarre behavior, market itself we have good numbers, where are we headed from here . I think market will drift lower a bit more. As we move toward the end of the month, real question is, from a political perspective, maybe we en up shutting down the government, similar to mid 1990s it could help jockey for position in Midterm Election year in 2014. So i think investors are worried right now, we had a good run in the star stock market up to levs that are pretty close to longterm averages. Lou john boehner said not going to happen, the republican leadership, that is the government shut down. You think it is a viable possibility . I think it is a possibility, that is a concern that is growing on wall street, at this poiit it is less than 50 . But it is higher than a week ago. Lou all right, sam stovall, thanks we appreciate it. My pleasure. Lou well have more on state of country fiscal policy, later in the broadcast, we take up americas welfare state with author william vogley, stay with us, you will love what he has to say. Were coming right back. Bubba to the rescue, this time secretary of explaining stuff, tasked by president obama with bailing out obamacare. Monica crowley, elise stay with us. Thats not much you think. Except its 2 every year. Does that make a difference . Search cost of Financial Advisors ouch. Over time it really adds up. Then go to etrade and find out how much our advice costs. Spoiler alert its low. Really . Yes, really. Etrade offers Investment Advice and guidance from dedicated, professional financial consultants. Its guidance on your terms, not ours. Thats how our system works. Etrad for you. Thats how our system works. Lifes an adventure when youre with her. And i. 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What do you make of a country that right now, finds record levels of tax ache not only at this state level but local level, were talking 100 billion a quarter. This is bipartisannonpartisan upset, country upset. It has a lot to do with how people view the government, people feel out of control, and set upon by the people they elected office. Where is that 7 . Who are they . Do you call them fais fascis. They live under rocks i think. It is striking to find that the so many people say they have too much power. Lou why dont the republicans talk about that very issue . They should be, this is their topic, they are supposedly the party of limited government, fiscal responsibility, weve seen very little languaging on that. Lou lets show senator cruz still talking to the floor of u. S. Senate about issues with obamacare. 1. 8 trillion dollars they will spend not covering 30 million americans. That means you spend 1. 8 trillion solving 40 of a problem, destroying the Health Care System as they do it. Were going to have a shortage of doctors, hank, by 2025, 130,000 physicians, that is madness call it obamacare. This is not a solution for anything, what it will do, what is wrong with this, this, this idea, is that it is empowering one sector of the economy, insurance industry, at the expense of the Health Care System that is wrong. Example after example of regular people getting hurt by this, right now. This is about wrong. Lou this is wrong. But there is instead of talking about procedural issues, which is about what which is what were left with here on this fight, the establishment, Republican Party, is bailing on these guys. Finalist spineless weasels, ted cruz is having traction now. The reasons he is gaining traction here, American People are paying attention, is obamacare, healthy care reform was never about health care, you could talk about hemorrhaging of doctors until you are blue in the face, for the left, for obama, reid, pelosi and left, obama care was always about power of the government and control. Good for cruz. A large moral issue involve no one wants to talk about, by there legislation, controlled by one industry, okay . Were going to see the determination finally once and for all who will live and who will die based upon cost, 40 of every health care dollar is used in last 30 days of life, people will not be allowed to have care, this is wrong. Lou you are a democrat. I know. Lou sarah palin said, death panels and was hooted down by the left. By the national. Liberal media, and this is before you read the legislation . Before i said, we have this discussion on this program, you are kind enough to allow it some time ago, this is wrong morally, one nation under god does not do such things. Reason that obama, polices pelosi and reid and the left pushed because control of the Health Care System is the crown jewel of the welfare state. Lou why cant the republicans come up with a core here an, compelling argument is express reality that is, it is devastating. Devastating, absolutely. Economically. Lou why cant the republicans they are facing a Supreme Court decision, they have. It is the law of the land, it is validated, law of the land by u. S. Supreme court. Right. But we have the constitution, that is what ted cruz it talks about. About. Lou will republicans be able to turn out the vote . I dont know about the elections. Lou if they dont win them they are through. Well have a lot of people standing in a whether in a well somewhere, it will be to no effect. Strategic argument here, practical politics for democrats to permit as much confusion to occur as possible so republicans will appear to do what they are doing, such the government down. If the republicans come out with their onetrick poniy, talking about deficit. Talking about debt, talking about just limited government. Without appealing to middle class and fundamental values of this country, which the vast majority of americans share, if they cant find that message they are going to get, what i think democrats deserve, but without that voice it is amazing. It is over not just for the republicans but the country. Lou why cant republicans know you need voters to support your political agenda. To your point, republicans have always talked about cold numbers, deficit, unemployment rate, true. But for what democrats have done so long is the emotional appeal. Lou they are sitting there, handing out money by the bucketfull, unless, and republicans saying we cant give that much money out. They have to come out with a more persuasive response. Republicans have not, in my opinion, come out with an emotional appeal. Lou yes. And part of overall message, that is why when you see on lift side of screen. Lou tea party was a containious eruption of the popular will. It was extinguished by Obama Administration and irs targeting. And they found themselves threatened. Tea party right now is not in reand yougence resurgence. Feature story today, offering a revealing look of twitters plan to go public. American rapidly turning into a welfare state, in chalk talk how Democratic Party never ending 30 for pow thirst for power for government. That drives them, what drives the republicans . Well be right back. Look mommys new vacuum cat screech you feel that in your muscles . I do. Drink water. Its a long story. Well, not having branches lets us give you great rates and service. Id like that. A new way to bank. A better way to save. Ally bank. Your money needs an ally. 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Nations poverty rate remains at 15 . 46 1 2 Million People live in poverty under the definition of the federal government, that is about 22,000 per person in poverty relief. By the way 22,000. Here is a radical idea, if we just wrote a check for 22,000 to each person, each year, we would be well on the way to eliminating technical poverty in the United States and several times over. So what are the proven weapons . What have we learned since 1965 . We actual have learned something. About work. It is about marriage. Last year more than 26 million, 18 to 64yearolds were living below the poverty line, 57 of them did not have a job. According to heritage foundation,ston of poor fam 71 of poor families with children are headed by single parents. But we dont have a culture discussion do we . We dont want to be politically incorrect, we cant talk about the impact of families that break up, we dont want to talk about the consequences, which is devastating, and in large measure we spend tremendous sums of money. To what effect . As for families with children, but not living in poverty, 73 of them are headed by married couples. Coming up well talk with scholar and author william vogley he has written a tremendous new book, said that liberals believe there should be no limits to well ths to welfare creates serious consequences. He wrote the book, never enough. Americas limitless welfare state, i guarantee you, you top hear what he has to say. He is here next. Stay with us. Any last requests mr. Baldwin . Do you mind grabbing my phone and opening the capital one purchase eraser . I need to redeem some venture miles before my demise. Okay. Its easy to erase any recent travel expense i want. Just pick that flight right there. Mmm hmmm. Give it a few taps, and. Its taken care of. This is pretty easy, and i see it works on hotels too. You bet. Now if you like that, press the red button on top. How did he not see that coming . Whats in your wallet . Lou my next guest ising with ing with vogely, Senior Editor of claremont review of books, author of the book, never enough, americas limitless welfare state. William, good to have you with us, the battle right now in washington de fundiig obamacare, the continuing resolution, your book addresses these issues, we have a government that has grown without seemingly without end, there is no articulated vision that im aware of by the left, as you say. That says what is the size of government, limit of government, why do we tolerate such a vision . Well, think we tolerate is because people if asked if abstract do you want Big Government or not, they say no, but when is sold to them in lite bitty slices do you want a government to address this problem, that needy group or this cause, then political equation changes, and people are more amenable to what democrats, and limb rally are selling liberals are selling. Lou why cant conservatives seemingly come up with a intelligence respond to the lefts insisting on new programs, every greater spending, and limitless government . It is a little bit like those cute commercials with the guy talking to four kids for at t, asks a question like, is more better than list, they say no more is better, this is the built in advantage that the liberal case sort of has. Conservatives have a longer argument they flied to make, that more they need to make, more sounds better but if you pay for if badly or wrongly, you wine up with troubles down the road. Lou we have got troubles, we got the i think we can see the shape in form of some of those troubles we have. As a result of a irresponsible fiscal policy, and so much else. But, well fair welfare entitlements. The achievements, the accomplishments there is never a discussion what has all that money bought . What has it achieved . What are the accomplishments of government in social policy . Dont you agree . I do. I think one reason we never seem to win the war on poverty is that the definition of what it would mean to win the war on poverty keeping changes, goal line keeps moving. Any time you have a Government Program that is designed to help people who make up to a certain amount of money, wherever that cut off point is, people who have just slightly better economic situation, they are going to have a good case to say, you know, were not that much better off than the people getting money, why republica are getting help. Overtime there is a longterm expansion industry. A program like tax credit started in 1975. And ajumped cut off for inflation twice as high as it was then it grew that way. Lou we have just a little bit of time remaining, your judgment about the pa panacea a way forw . Well, i think the to get away from gloom, good news for conservatives is that democrats, unlike European Social democrats have not been able to sell a package deal that convinces americans that high taxes and joanerrous welfare generous Welfare Benefits are a good package. I think that resistance to taxes will put a constrange to spending that will start to make a difference. Lou william, i beneficiary, that we can i appreciate that, we can end on a happy note, the book, never enough, i urge you to read it. On bookstore shelves online now. William thank you. That is it for us, well see you tomorrow. Good night from new york. Thank you orville and wilbur. Amelia. Neil and buzz for teaching us that you cant create the future. By clinging to the past. 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Neil day two were back, still all about having your back, forget about the battle over spending this is shaping up to be a battle for the republican soul. Why Rick Santorum said this is the debate that party should be having. Speaking of kicking buns, see that lloydmayweather fight. Something help floyd becoming another mike tyson and losing that dough. Something telling me floyd was