presidential leadership to stave off the fiscal cliff? we take that up here, tonight. new polls are now established in the storyline. the presidential race remains a dead heat. what is governor romney's plan to turn the momentum in his direction? romney advisor and governor of new hampshire john sununu talks to us. also, new book about public employee unions and how they prosper while the rest of the country struggles. "shadowbosses: how government empoyee unions control america" author mallory factor joins us. his book will be a bestseller. and a record west nile outbreak in this country. has the cdc on alert. that is not the only mosquito borne disease spreading throughout the country. we will have that report straight ahead. first, our top story. a new government report predicts another significant recession if the president and congress don't stop a series of spending cuts and tax hikes that are scheduled to go into effect at the end of the year. the cbo reports that while the deficit would be cut by nearly a half trillion dollars, it would be at the expense of more than 2 million jobs. meanwhile, the president choosing to focus on attacking his opponent instead of proposing any policy that would avoid the spending economic calamity. team obama putting governor romney's wealth and tax returns and his days at bain capital at the forefront of the reelection efforts instead. >> how many grants and loans for college students, governor romney has made his time as an investor the basis for his candidacy. governor romney is on the wrong side of these issues. lou: president obama reverting to a very familiar tone. the president applauding everything that he has done since taking office. while offering a line that he has used time and time again on the campaign trail. >> the fact is that everything i have done has been focused on how we rebuild that strong middle class and how we make sure everybody is getting a fair shot. everybody is doing their fair share. everybody is playing by the same set of rules. lou: a return tonight, unemployment tonight simply not an indicator of the rebuilt middle class. are you excited about this election yet? for more on the economic progress from the congressional budget office, we go to fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry. reporter: as president obama made his case in another key battleground state -- >> the fact is that everything that i have done has been focused on how we rebuild that strong middle class. reporter: back in washington, a harder verdict about the fiscal mess in the congressional budget office said that the president will see the budget exceed a chilly in dollars for the fourth straight year. >> we don't know how long this can go on for. reporter: leaders in both parties failed to stop massive tax increases and automatic spending cuts coming at the end of the year. there will be short-term deficit relief, but it could spark another recession. if allowed to occur from the sharp reductions with taxes, and increases in taxes, will lead to a dramatic reduction in the federal deficit. trimming it by almost $500 billion next year. that would be a significant tightening of fiscal policy. and would probably lead to a recession early next year. reporter: while the president said nothing about the report, some jumped on it saying the fiscal cliff could be avoided if house democrats joined republicans in extending the tax cuts for middle class. they are willing to hold the middle class hostage unless we get massive new tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires. tax cuts we can afford. reporter: republican mitt romney wants all of the bush tax cuts extended. in today's c report is another indictment of the president's economic policy that resulted in overspending, increasing debt, and a growing financial burden on the next generation. just one day after vice president biden declared that the middle-class is coming back. >> they have been ravaged, but they are starting to come back. we help them keep their homes and their health care. reporter: talk of a comeback may be dampened by the federal reserve. newly released minutes show many fed officials think action will be needed fairly soon, unless incoming information pointing to a substantial and sustainable strengthening in the pace of economic recovery. reporter: the bottom line is that the cbo stresses that if in fact congress is able to work out a debt deal, that is a big if, of course, congress is not acting on a lot of things right now, we could prevent a recession, but we would still be on the verge of a fiscal crisis. that is going to reach 90% of gdp by 2022. lou: it is extraordinary that we are not seeing more language, not even action, but language on this very impending event by the president and congress. as the cbo called it, a calamity. >> everybody seems to be kicking the can pass the election down the road and they want to wait until there is a lame-duck session. lou: it seems to me, if i may say, they are under estimating the tolerance of the markets. it is not likely that investors and markets will be forbearing this time, as we go into the fall. i want to turn to the president who is now in new york, combining two of his favorite activities, basketball and campaigning. >> it is the so-called obama fundraiser. carmelo anthony, michael jordan, some big donors there watching this all play out behind closed doors in your city. we are told the president himself is a good basketball player, we've seen them play many times, but i'm not sure that he is the caliber of michael jordan. the fact that we are told that he had a little bit of a knee injury, i don't blame them, going up against jordan would be no easy task. lou: no easy task. i can barely dribble a basketball. i would love to have the opportunity. [laughter] lou: it has to be an amazing amount of money he's going to raise tonight with those folks in attendance. thank you very much, ed henry. you will be in attendance here tonight. ed henry is the chief white house correspondent. our next guest is referring to the obama campaign team as delusional. he has criticized the chicago style gutter politics. joining us now former new hampshire governor and white house chief of staff, john sununu. john, good to have you with us. >> good to be here, lou. you left out the fact that i like to point out how they avoid telling the truth all the time. when stephanie cutter went on one of the morning shows and said that president obama in the last two and a half years has created more jobs than ronald reagan and his recovery, it shows you how they live. obama has created 4 million jobs in the last 2.5 years. he is short of creating a positive number, but they are bragging about 4 million jobs. ronald reagan in his last two years, when he came out of the carter recession, created 7 million jobs. maybe the fact that this administration doesn't know that four is significantly smaller than seven, explains the problems we are having. ronald reagan created 16 million jobs. 16 million jobs is a lot bigger number than 4 million jobs. stephanie cutter is lying and the obama and administration doesn't help. lou: well, i would have to ask you if that is the longest answer for a question that i never asked. [laughter] >> you are right. i apologize for. lou: not at all. the fact of the matter is, you are enlightening and entertaining at the same time in a way, if i may say. let's turn to the polls. we are we're starting to see some closure on "the wall street journal." obama is 48, an improvement from july. the "washington post" poll showing 50% of senior citizens 65 years and older are actually liking paul ryan and that is also a significant improvement. it suggest that this will be quite as easy to scare seniors with the issue of entitlements as some of the democratic party has suggested. >> with the mitt romney and paul ryan come you have two guys who like to talk directly to people and feed them the truth. and talk about the hard problems and choices we have to make. americans including our seniors and even our young people understand that when you give them the facts and the truth, they have to be part of the solution. that is what you're seeing happening in america and that is what the next eight or nine weeks is all about. lou: senator john sununu, thank you so much. thank you for letting ask a question. john sununu. it is not only governor romney issuing dire warnings about obamanomics. the newest government forecast is chilling. >> the unemployment rate will rise to about 9% in the second half of next year and remain above 8% through 2014. are you excited about this election now? you will assuredly be when you hear what lew lehrman has to say. out of the shadows, nearly half a million federal employees make six-figure incomes. you heard me right. the silent but awesome power of public employee unions so... 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[ male announcer ] fiber one. lou: dire economic warnings and the path to prosperity. whose fault is with fiscal cliff? willoughby of your realized? joining me now is lew lehrman. joining me in just a moment. first, wall street's climbing back, investors getting what they wanted from the federal reserve, or at least so it seems. the dow jones industrial is down 31 points and has been down more than 80 points until the fed released the meeting in july results. the s&p gained a fraction. the nasdaq gained a little bit. pretty good. minutes from the fed policy meeting show that many show the economy failing to demonstrate substantial improvement. economic news tonight, sales of existing homes, and this is good news on housing -- up 2.3% in july. some would say that's short of expectations. i would say it is good news. it is the first increase in three months. our next guest says the fiscal cliff projections are directly attributable to the president's lack of an economic policy. joining me now is wall street legend louis lehrman, former morgan stanley chairman, author of the book, the true gold standard. here we have a cbo forecast. it is about as unwelcome as one could be, this president and his campaign, as well as the white house. we are looking at horrible numbers. 2 million jobs at risk, should the fiscal cliff not be avoided by the congress and the president -- 9% unemployment, what is your reaction? >> first, what is the cause, and second, what is the solution? he had four years to restore employment. we are not at the level of unemployment where he took office at. the second is the solution. we need a new president, just as neil ferguson on the front of newsweek advertised. lou: it is amazing in which the way i guess you call them a community -- the way that economists are reacting and harvard university itself going after ferguson as if he had absolutely committed an act of harassment with a document. >> the faculties are all part of that army of economists who are now employed to be part of the federal reserve system. as a result, anybody who indicts obama who is going to reappoint bernanke, that is what we are seeing. lou: it is funny. the wealth and the environment there. hardly one would expect from academia in america. >> we both remember the soviets. thousands of economists employed by the cia and every agency of government to try and read what the statements meant in the soviet union by every comment policy. that is what happens now almost every day on wall street. you have tens of millions of dollars of wages being paid to try to understand what unelected representatives of the federal reserve system are trying to do. the one we had a glimpse today of what had happened a month ago. is your heart warmed by finding that there is some considerable discussion about what to do? if the economy does not improve significantly, substantially from here? >> wall street is begging for qe-3. especially the speculators. the great irony will be is that if obama goes through this tax raising policy, at year end, and the bush tax cuts expire, every entrepreneur, every private business owner, every private equity fund is going to be leveraging up, borrowing money, paying dividends so that they can get their dividends today at 52% tax rate rather than a 45% tax rate be one what will be the trigger date? willoughby the election itself, or will there be a sense that they can't wait to make their judgment as to who will win andn the days and weeks leading up to november 6 election? >> i think it is election day. obama does not care about playing roulette. in 2012, despite a near recession for the entire year, it will go up in above expectations. in 2013, it will go down. everybody will be realizing their income this year. from the middle classes to the very rich classes. rather than after. lou: do have a judgment about the outcome? it is hard to judge precisely and definitively one causing all of us. you think it has anything to do with expectations about who'll win the election? what is your best judgment? >> i think there is a little bit of a bit of investors. on the other hand, wall street has its own judicial system. the economy is declining and the jobs are going down, the speculative interest says, well, the federal reserve will be more substantial and their impact. lou: we will see just how perverse it gets in the weeks ahead. up next, government workers and union bosses. living high on taxpayer money. the private sector are struggling, of course. i'm sure that this administration want to do something about it. meanwhile, taking a look at the shocking numbers for you. laying out the power of public employee unions in tonight's talk talk. and the man who exposed this government excess. mallory factor, author of "shadowbosses: how government empoyee unions control america." he will be with us in moments. you see us, at the start of the day. on the company phone list that's a few names longer. you see us bank on busier highways. on once empty fields. everyday you see all the ways all of us at us bank are helping grow our economy. lending more so companies and communities can expand, grow stronger and get back to work. everyday you see all of us serving you, around the country, around the corner. us bank. you know how hard if yit can be to breathedo, and what that feels like. copd iludes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiva helps corol my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open a full 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that does both. and it's steroid-free spiriva does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell yr doctor if you have kidy problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. these may worsen with spiriva. discuss all medicines you ta, even eye drops. stop taking spiriva and seek immediate medical help if yr breathing suddenly worsens, your throat or tongue swells, you get hives, vision changes or eye pain, or problems passing ure. other side effects include dry mouth and constipation. nothing can reverse copd. spiriva helps me breathe better. does breathing with copd weigh you down? ask your doctor if spiriva can help. lou: a new book has shot to the top of the bestseller list. democratic party leaders are not too thrilled about this book. that is because there are 8.3 million government workers in the country. 8.3 million of them. that is a lot of folks. and they make more money and work less than the private sector workers. a plain statement of fact. you and die, taxpayers, all of us are paying for the time that they spend. we are paying for the time that they spend working on union related matters. that is called release time. release time. it amounts to, amazingly, 23 million man-hours and it is effectively a taxpayer union to the tune of $1 billion. $1 billion a year. really? released a taxpayer money. it is incredible. this will please you, too. nearly half a million, half a million federal employees. that is one in five employees are also compensated. let's make that one in five. one in five federal workers. that makes in excess of $100,000 each year. they received up to 2.5 months time off. each year. being a public employee union boss is really -- well, it is really the pinnacle of it all. the union bosses make on average 10 times what their members make. the president of the american federation of state, county and municipal employees union -- the union union makes just $535,000 per year. $555,000 per year. president of the national education association, the nea, the american federation of teachers, we will call it that, they are in for 400 grand per year. and the teachers unions, by the way, teachers unions overall collect more than -- i'm just going to use this, teachers unions collect $2 billion in dues each year. think about that. $2 billion in dues. that money is going to liberal politicians, for example, president obama, his signature health care law designed to unionize says that this new book, 21 million health care workers. 21 million health care workers. is it starting to come together for everybody? are we starting to see this web of interesting direction and why? because for every million of these workers, unionized in the 27 non-right to work states, the unions stand to earn a billion dollars in dues. do you get the feeling that there is little at stake here when we talk about obamacare, health care health care workers, and unionizing as many as 21 million health care workers? well, if you are trying to catch her breath after taking a look at these numbers, get ready to meet the author of the new book "shadowbosses: how government empoyee unions control america." mallory factor is the author. but first, we want to explain the numbers at the bottom of the chalkboard. 28% is the percentage of latinos, 28% of latinos who say that they will back governor romney in the new wall street journal nbc poll. 28%. the republicans, by the way, are looking for 38%. this zero is the amount of support that governor romney receives from black voters. our liberal teachers unions and indoctrinating our youth? guess who really runs our public schools? we will be talking about public employee union powers the author of "shadowbosses: how government empoyee unions control america." it is deadly and it is making history. we met this is the worst west nile outbreak in the united states. it has been in 43 states. >> what we have right now is a very serious outbreak in what we need to do is interrupt the transmission cycle as quickly as we possibly can to try to save lives. lou: new reports from the cdc and we will have the latest. seventy-six days until the election and president obama in las vegas. >> hello, las vegas. it is good to be back in nevada. lou: be careful, mr. president. one famous vacationer gave new meaning to the strip and i guess. sometimes what happens in vegas doesn't really stay there we have big dreams. one is for a clean, domestic energy future that puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy development comes with some risk, we're committed to safely and responsibly producing natural gas. it's not a dream. america's natural gas... putting us in control of our energy future, now. lou: new reports tonight that this country is now a experiencing the deadliest outbreak of the west nile virus in our history. nationwide the virus has now killed 41 people so far this year. according to new information for the centers for disease control, more than 1100 people have contracted west nile virus spread over 38 states up from fewer than 700 cases just a week ago. more than half of these cases reported in texas where aerial spraying began last week. other mesquita borne illnesses are also arriving in texas we assume, and it is only an assumption that it is related to this extraordinary drought that the nation is going through. the state of texas has seen as 65% increase in cases of malaria and a 300 percent spike in band-aid fever cases. well, in tonight's "chalk talk" we laid out how american taxpayers are financing unions and how the president's health care law is an effort to unionize 21 million health care workers. all of these and many more stunning packets of information together. written a brilliant new book, shadowboxes, government unions, control america, and rob taxpayers blind. great to have you here. i have good material and we have more for you to cover. we are going to turn first step the very idea that this is a significant part of the true obama agenda. >> this is the real agenda. the real agenda are the unions to our government employee unions. he wants to unionize health care. the only have about amelya that health care workers unionized. as government starts paying more and more to our health care services they will start unionizing them. already ten states have unionized out of independent contractors. you will see nurses, doctors. remember as you so well pointed out, every million members is a billion dollars in dues. lou: a stunning number. >> stunning. lou: what unions tend principally to benefit from this effort, this initiative of the obama agenda? >> mci you, service employees international union with the president was part of, an organizer asked me. by the wake of president obama is really our first union labor president. lou: i guess i had not thought about it that way, not to and pans on the need gingrich food stamp president, but he is a man , certainly a historic figure in so many ways. interestingly there is a lot of history coming into collision. one is the nd the unions, the power that time when most people think of unions as being almost relegated to the dustbin of history, under 7 percent, union organized labor in the private sector, my gosh, as you point out in the book december said the public employees are organized. >> they sure are, and 41 percent are under unique control because a fourth collective bargaining. what has happened is the democratic party figure out that if they start giving money to these politicians the politicians would give money back to them in a never-ending cycle of corruption and greed. lou: this goes back to the 50's and mayor wagner. >> it does. lou: so it all began. but right to work states. how many right to work states? >> we have 23 now. lou: 23, and as you point out, that isn't the whole story of what is going on here. >> no, it isn't. it is a good part of the story because in right to work states you don't have anywhere near the unionism, obviously, that you do in the forced unionism states. but there are only seven states where you are not forced into a collective bargaining. sixteen of those right to work states, when there is a union they cannot foresee to pay them, but they are your sole representative, so 60 percent more people do pay them. lou: your rights are overwhelmed by the presence of a union in the workplace. and do you think that is going to change? how strong is the right to work movement, and how is this confrontation between what as you point out is rising union power and riches with which to move ahead they're efforts in the private sector as well as the public. >> well, the unions have about $14 billion a year that we can find that this band. it puts politicians to of the other their nests. and what happens is the members have no idea who their actually, the politicians there are supporting, and what they do with their money. it is shocking. lou: very quickly. how much of a role did you think unions are going to play in this presidential election? >> you would not have the democratic party that we have today is a government employee unions did not have that treasure troves of money. they have a piggyback. also the engine of socialism in our country. the money that they supply to our politicians, that gasoline fed engine. lou: we are going to see what the conclusions are. much luck with the book. congratulations. shadowboxes, government unions control america and drop text player -- taxpayers blind. coming up next, florida voters and one congressional district demonstrating they have had enough. how does a large animal veterinarian with the political experience knock off a 12th term congressman? well, it begins with one straightforward message. we will find out. florida congressional candidate joins us next. he is here because he is a veterinarian, not because he is running for congress. honest. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is the age of knowing what you're made of. why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. this is the age of taking action. viagra. talk to your doctor. ry and s the age of taking action. abigail higgins had... ...a tree that bore the most rare and magical fruit. which provided for their every financial need. and then, in one blinding blink of an eye, their tree had given its last. but with their raymond james financial advisor, they had prepared for even the unthinkable. and they danced. see what a raymond james advisor can do for you. lou: my next guest, 12 term congressman cliff stearns and florida republican primary just received the endorsement of governor sarah palin's. joining us now, congressional candidate take your hope. good to have you with us. i guess i should, you know, i should tell you, people may not know, you are a large animal veterinarian. and i have to ask you. first, i have to say congratulations. secondly, how in the world is a man who like animals myself, while family does, how could you give of veterinary practice for politics? >> it's funny because on the campaign trail of other people ask me that. you know, you are leaving a noble profession as a veterinarian that is thought highly of and gone to congress, 9 percent approval rating. i said, if you're going to start somewhere is best to start at the bottom and work your way up. lou: the idea that you had knocked off cliffs stearns, what does that say in your judgment? interpreter when and your prospects for us if you would? >> well, i think what that says, the messes that resounded on the campaign trail. our message was we had enough. you know, the people that we talked to on a daily basis for the last three or four years kept saying, the career politicians are the ones that led this year. they failed to prevent its command and neither was susceptible. we realize the only way you will change washington is by changing the type of people that are out there, and i plan to be that tight. lou: that is a noble aspiration, and i think your constituents, you are offering that as a pledge. let me ask you how important sarah palin endorsement is to you and what kind of support you feel that you have going into this general election. >> super excited about it. it is going to be very important and brings a certain base to our campaign. see change the face of politics. the soccer mom can become a government that can become a vice presidential nominee. it is time with the regular people, as common as they come. we got an endorsement from johnny van sant. he had the song simple man, i don't know if that is a good thing, but anyway, i feel good about her endorsement. lou: when you say a simple man, a veterinarian, as everyone watching knows him and you cannot be too simple. practicing. what do you think you're going to bring to congress should u.n.? in the other candid it would not? >> well, what we will bring as a business owner and a veterinarian, i have a different perspective than the career politician, and i am like the entrance politician. i have been in the trenches on a daily basis. you know, like too many americans we have been on the receiving end of rules and regulations and mandates that are killing businesses, and i have been fortunate in both i have been the employer and employee each and remember how it feels to sign both sides of paycheck. a lot of them forget that up their cause that is a plan to bring. lou: we appreciate you being with us. to wish you the best. >> i appreciate the average ended the year. have been a big pan of yours for a long time periods. lou: thank you very much if. >> is, sir. lou: a dead heat, new poll numbers, presidential election getting tighter. next week's republican convention, governor romney the boost he needs. the "a-team" with the answers. to diane, michael, and judith. there on the way. stand by. ♪ >> the government of california is let the government in washington d.c. in microcosm. they always want more of your money, they never met a tax they did not like and they are at it again. well, at 920 eastern. seems they haven't been moving much lately. but things are starting to turn around because of business people like you. and regions is here to help. with the experience and service to keep things rolling. from business loans to cash management, we want to be your partner moving forward. so switch to regions. and let's get going. together. ♪ lou: joining me now, the "a-team." author of the book out numbered. to that. pulitzer prize-winning -- new york post columnist, fox news contributor, and another plot -- pillar to prize-winning journalist and fox news contributor. good to have you all here. genentech, i have to say, i am amazed that this race is tightening it quite the rate that it is. are you surprised? >> i am actually amazed that it is this close given a obama's record and it is disastrous unemployment. i am surprised that romney has not pulled away from a more. i realize barack obama is an incumbent president and area during a lot of the scare tactics in its medicare against women and all of this nonsense, but i still keep waiting for people to wake up and say, hold on a second, this has really been a failure as president, and i am not voting for him again. lou: well, you know what he says whenever he does allow me to answer questions, he talks about it much too early to even be paying attention to these polls in any real, significant way. what do you think? >> people really aren't paying attention except for those whose minds are already made up, and we see that again and again and again. the idea that this election is going to be decided by people in seven counties of this country, the rest of us can just go barbecue some reds and, you know, watch dancing with the stars. lou: one of those requests is. the newspaper comes down to seven counties. but they're is a mind that seems made up to me. and that is, michael goodwin who in his column rights of president obama, number 44, specializing in a small mine this, that would be small mindedness fuelled by arrogance and contempt because i cannot speak as well. forgive me, but we get your point certainly. you have lost all hope for this man. >> well, lately, the tax, including at the press conference on monday. he is not really being a president ever without injecting partisan politics into every event, every moment, every government election. you just get the sense that nothing matters. he is not really the president. he is a campaigner. i think he is, in fact, the menacing the oval office, shrinking the presidency by doing this. this is not about the good of the united states but about the good of his election. that is the small mindedness that we frankly, even bad presidents to might think, feel weighed down by the office to act up to. he does not feel that. lou: you are shaking your head. >> i cannot agree. when you like it your record -- his record, the amazing things he has managed to get your republican congress and democratic senate, i think that the stimulus and tart, killing. he has a good record to run on. lou: actually -- >> he has the support. that's true. lou: a democratic senate. by 50% to delete your enthusiasm >> no. i'm not enthusiastic, but i think when it comes to a choice between mr. rodney or obama lot of americans are saying, the guided not do too badly. the economy is slowly recovering let's give him another shot. i think that is what you're seeing on the bird democratic side. >> i disagree because a lot of what he did get through was grossly unpopular. if you look at obamacare, his signature and achievement, that remains unpopular with the american people, small businesses combusting applications that will have on people with all income bracket. the stimulus to billions of dollars, over 800 billion stimulus and we have a consistent rate of unemployment over 8%. that is a telltale sign of failure, and people are not stupid. they see that. lou: square up, if you well, your analysis with the latest cbo report projecting the fiscal cliff that this president's, certainly harry reid has taken ownership of, wanting to push ld be lost.into recession. how does that square up? >> those are dire numbers, but the flip side of that is this conference -- congress gets off its butt and does something. if they actually stop the tax -- you know, just continue the policies and not through spending cuts, we are going to have some significance. that is the other side of the equation that people aren't looking at. why aren't people saying congress, stop this. this is not a political issue. this should not be partisan politics. the future of the country. lou: but the message must be. we have a president who has not submitted a budget. a republican house that has been -- i mean cannot put through i don't know how many times budget proposals. a senate is set to pass one. i mean, what in the world. it is definitively a partisan issue. >> and, i am struck by people who say congress, get off your butt. but the really mean is, republicans, give and to the democratic president and a democratic senate. as you said, the senate controlled by the democrats has not passed a budget and over 1200 days to my belief. lou: writes. >> and because they don't want to be held accountable for things they're doing wrong. >> did not want to be put on paper. >> dead don't want to throw keynesian economics out the window. >> i do. if it was going to work it would have by now. 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