Bangladesh. So whos right . Welcome to forbes on fox. Happy fourth of july weekend. Lets go and focus to find out what steve forbes and dave mercer as well. Is the terror momentum increasing or decreasing. The momentum is increasing, david, and what kerry said is nonsense and i think very embarrassing for a secretary of state. Isis is doing what a terrorist group does. They demoralize society, they go after tourist destinations like that airport or what they almost did with disney world to hit the economy as well. Demoralize. Thats how they think they will win. Theyre on the upswing and for kerry to make it sound like a chicago shoot on a weekend is preposterous and shows the world were not yet fully serious. You hear on the one hand the momentum of terrorism is going down, on the other hand its going up. Whos right . Ill offer a third option and that is i think that with in a war on terror you have several battlefields. You have iraq, you have syria, et cetera. You also have public spaces or airports, and the fact of the matter and i think what secretary kerry was referring to is that the isis is being pushed back out of falluja. They lost 250 soldiers on the battlefield, and i it may be that they shifted to get the attention that theyre getting now on the attack on at a turk airport in istanbul. So i think its a shift, but i dont think that its a dismissive comment by secretary kerry. Hold on a second. He said they are losing. I mean they are losing on the battlefield. Weve got a lot of people here. If theyre losing, i think frankly if a terrorist is killing innocent people the terrorist is winning. The people losing are the people being killed. Thats right and by the way, Government Data show that since 9 11 there have been 580 terrorist convictions here in the united states. 380 were foreign born. 40 came as refugees. I dont know if john kerry meant cocome off as cavalier, but heres the thing too, were downplaying it way too much. Were tot calling it what it is. Even the 9 11 report seven times used the report islamist terrorism. Well, mike, in terms of ut, most terrorist momentum is me americans are not confident in u. S. Ability to fight this. 84 of americans polled say they feel nervous about the nations ability to prevent terrorist attacks. That shows to me that the terrorists are winning. Well, why would americans feel confident . Theres nothing that theyve seen that would make them feel confident, david. Whether it be orlando or other things that have happened, san bernardino, so that poll is rather predictable. And rich, the fact is that isis is growing in terms of its global reach. We understand from the turkish terrorist attacks that a lot of these people were from the former soviet union. The wall street journal had a big piece about how they can increase people from all over. Thats exactly right and thats what i think secretary kerry and our good friend david get wrong. Thats a 20th century view. Its territory control conquest so we may be indeed pushing them back here and there on the map, but in the Virtual World theyre gaining momentum. So john, are they winning or losing on the terrorist front . Well, i think you can always win when you murder someone, but i think we need to separate the two. Thankfully, these murderous acts are very, very rare and any question is how much in the way of police and military are we willing to accept at airports and in public spaces before we realize murders will always find soft targets and thats not going to change based on whos in power. Well, steve, i wonder, though, because you see what the israelis accept as reasonable search when they try to travel. I mean, theyre willing to go through a lot of delays in order to make sure that theyre safe. Well, and also when you go to their airports its very clear, unlike tsa, they know what theyre doing and you can go through quickly, but they give you a real lookover and if they have any suspicions at all youre pulled to the side, asked questions and perhaps even searched more. So you can take measures both at home and the key thing is also hit isis really hard in the middle east. Hit iran in the middle east and get at the source. When you have a mosquito spreading disease go after the swamp not just the mosquitos. Lets talk about the economic implications because clearly turkey has taken it on the chin. Istanbul airport, the ataturk airport was the main airport, a lot of their tourism has dried up. Im wondering if isis as they look at this, because theyre learning as we are learning, they realize that the economic damage that they caused is great. Right . It is. And you have also not to mention almost nearly a million refugees from syria that have crossed over into the turkey border and thats an expense there and it disrupts the communities that are taking them in. So and then you have the kurdish problem, also contributing to their overall tourist but lets bring it back home. The question is whether or not isis is actually going to hit these soft targets so called, these economic targets. That warning has already come out repeatedly from, you know, the intelligence officials and Law Enforcement officials and the issue is is getting at the heart of it. Im not sure the u. S. Can in this white house will aggressively take on saudi arabia and these tenants. Is the economy going to take a hit from this increasing attack . We saw what happened after 9 11. There was a huge downturn in our economy that lasted quite a while. What about the comment that americans are not going to take the waiting lines, even further extended than they already are . They wont. And i think theyll take it out on the administration. I mean, the irony here is that obama says hes for hillary clinton, but hes, you know, he couldnt conceive of a better way to elect donald trump with his passivity on isis. Were talking about the economy here and im sorry, and i know im in the minority but i think of a much bigger threat to our economy is a government that spends 4 trillion a year and still cant stop terrorism. I think we have to ask the question, if the Big Government response is the way to stop murders. I dont think it is. Ive got to give john a point here. You wonder where the money is going. I mean, thats what its a huge problem but thats a lot of money thats being well spent. Yeah, well, to say that the government is insufficient, that goes without saying, but that doesnt mean we have to be passive in the face of mortal threats to our ultimate security. And when you have middle east unraveling, europe unraveling, were getting these terrorist attacks, that undermines the economy, undermines our safety. Weve got to fight back. Up next, liberal lawyers already going after folks they say are Climate Change deniers. Well, now the Democratic Party as a whole calling on the Justice Department to do the same in their 2016 democratic platform but conservative lawyers say how about suing folks that a if you take multiple medications a dry mouth can be a common side effect. Thats why theres biotene. It comes in oral rinse, spray or gel, so theres moisturizing relief for everyone. Biotene. For people who suffer from a dry mouth. Now back to forbes on fox. Buzz growing this week as democrats unanimously voting into their 2016 Party Platform that they will go after and investigate corporations who they say misled the public by minimizing the effects of Climate Change. Companies like exon and their stockholders could pay a hefty price for these investigations. Let me just read out from the 20 this is a final draft of the 2016 platform. Its calling on the department of justice to investigate alleged corporate fraud on the part of fossil fuel companies whove reportedly misled shareholders and the public on the scientific reality of Climate Change. Couldnt have cost us all a lot of money . Yeah. And the economic part of it is the least worrisome part about it. This is the most direct assault on the First Amendment that i have ever seen in my lifetime. Orange orwell would be spinning in his grave. Going after anybody because they disagree with the other persons opinion. Exxon has every right to defend its opinion. David, are you okay with this . Well, back to your original question of costing money, it already cost us money to keep exxon in play and others because of our tax dollars. Billions and billions of dollars in subsidies. Id like to stay on topic. Thats on topic. The threat that this poses to the First Amendment, are you okay with that . I dont believe its a threat to the First Amendment. If the company is allegedly committing fraud and how it discloses its data and what data it presents, i dont think its a threat. In fact, its to our safety and also to protect against. Youre okay with that, but steve, turn about is fair play. There are 13 attorneys general who sent a letter to their fellow ton fellow attorneys general. If its possible to minimize the risks of Climate Change then the same goes for exaggeration. If minization is fraud one sin should not beget another sin in terms of assaulting the First Amendment and this is not just going after exxon. Its also meant to intimidate, also intimidate think tanks and companies who may wish to make contributions to people who they think are advancing, a freedom of growth agenda so its intimidation all around. And mike, the costs of this to taxpayers are enormous. I mean, because of the hysteria, one could argue weve spent 25 billion or at least president obama did of our tax money on these green energy plans. I dont know what good they did. Thats nothing, david, that 25 billion. They the Climate ChangeBusiness Journal puts the annual cost of trying to fight Climate Change globally at 1. 5 trillion a year. Now, for a little perspective, thats more than twice the cost of taxpayers to bail out u. S. Banks. Unbelievable. Sabrina, you wonder why it costs so much money. Its because of the hysteria over the past ten years about what was going to happen because of Climate Change was through the roof. Abc just as an example, we have a sound bite from a report back in 2008 about what life would look like in 2015. Lets just play that or at least show some of that. They said everything is going to happen. Were going to have manhattan would be gone, et cetera. What do you think . Yeah, i remember that alarmism starting when i was still in grade school. We had the Science Teacher telling us how much inches of the rain forest were disappearing every second, but this is business as usual and its exactly what the American Public is rebelled against this election season. It is so splpo lit sized. Almost 70 of democrats say its a serious problem while only 20 of republicans, which suggests the democrats are simply trying to shore up their base. This has nothing to do but its all about growing government. They look at money and if its well spent theyre in favor of it and if not theyre against it. We had one project a 4. 3 billion windmill project, the wall street journal investigates. The Administration Says it was a success. Wall street journal went to these projects and found there were only 300 people working there. That is proof that stubbornness often drains people of all common sense. Even warren buffet who was investing in Windmill Farms he said they dont make any sense. The wind doesnt blow all the time. You cant control the wind and by the way, guess what supplements windmill energy . Natural gas because the wind doesnt blow all the time. So are all these Government Spending projects on green energy a waste of money . No, theyre not. Steve, i mean, 7,000 employees is what the white house was claiming from windmills. They only had 300. Youve got to look at the opportunity costs. Those 300 jobs with that kind of money theyve invested. You would have had ten times as many productive jobs. You look at germany, their economy has been hurt and other economies have been hurt by this alternative energy. Electricity costs two to three times what they are many the united states. Natural gas has done more to reduce global warning than any other Climate Change scheme combined. So mike, maybe we should be just letting the free market handle things and forget about all these government projects. Youre spot on. Look, if these socalled Green Technologies had promised youd see unlimited amount of capital flowing in from Silicon Valley and other invest gors. This is a man date by washington to control our economy, and our lives. Getting ready to roll at the bottom of the hour, what do you got . President obama leaping into the campaign. Now going after donald trump for going after illegal immigration. Lets just say things are getting ugly. Then democrats accusing republicans of wasting money on the benghazi hearings, but what about how much they spent on Global Warming hearings . We report, you decide at the bottom of the hour. We will be watching. Thank you very much. But first, democratic senator Elizabeth Warren accusing u. S. Tech titans like google, apple and amazon of being a monopoly. 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She praised the do voter here really want the bureaucratic regulations they just voted against in the uk . No, they dont. Senator warren is very confused. We think about microsoft, it was late on serge to google. We think about microsoft that was late on smartphones to google. Governments cant see the future. And its not like the regulators here are letting the corporations off easy. Look at all the blocked mergers. Baker hughes and halliburton, staples and office depot. The list goes on. The list goes on and thats in the private sector, them deciding not to do the mergers as well. Wait a minute. This is a government blocking ameri mergers that want to be done. Its both. Public and private, but back to senator warren, look, shes a consumer crew sausader so its check and balance on what corporations are doing and the eu examined it and why not have it examined here to make sure that why not more regulators. Companies are trying to innovate and create jobs. I think warren should pass a law that all entrepreneurs should stay in their basements and garages. What does Silicon Valley think about this . Its apolled. Theyre apalled by Elizabeth Warren. You know, why would we in any way want to model ourselves after teuropean economy . A lot of people lose their blocks when mergers are blocked. Of course they are and its the irony and its so rich and of course the only thing that snuffed out competition, its the largest monopoly of all and its a huge government. They should get out of education and energy and we would have a marketplace that would flourish. These things cost billions. When the mergers dont go through the companies have to pay these kill fees of billions of dollars. Yeah, they have a short term cost, longterm cost and the economy doesnt become productive which means we have a lower standard of living. Eu stinks economically. Why do we want to go that route. 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