That is weird, but they will be back. And dagen doing a fine job sub hosting on bulls bears, so, charles, what is wrong with saving jobs . I know the pure capitalist argument dont interfere, but he saved 1,100 jobs. He did. This is not theres a pure capitalist argument and then the crocodile tears and hypocrisy from the Bernie Sanders of the world. I know its really eating bernie up. Lets face it, donald trump used a combination carrot and stick. And i think in the process hes actually developing a template for how to approach this nationwide. And we know lower taxes help. We know lower regulations help. But we also know understanding and nuancing these things with corporate america, by the way he also announced this week a bigtime panel of advisors, all smart people, all successful people. So its one of these things democrats just like, golly they cannot believe he got it done. Youre a big libertarian, so generally its a sort of hands off view. Absolutely. Thats what you want to see. You dont want to see a tighter relationship between government and business. And my hope is that president elect trump regardless of some of the questionable aspects of the carrier deal saving 1,100 jobs in the midwest and manufacturing before christmas is fantastic. Its an inspiring story. Its great to think that manufacturing could come back to the midwest. People have to be prepared to pay more for American Products if thats what youre going to demand and if thats what the president is going the president elect is going to demand of businesses in this country. What i am heartened by is seeing Steve Mnuchin talk about lowering the Corporate Tax rate drastically. I think thats really important. And repealing i should say fixing parts of dodd frank that make it very difficult for small banks to lend money to Small Businesses so they can grow. And less likely to leave. If you can inc to stay, i think one of the arguments was, charlie, that his pitch was bear with me, ive got all these big plans. That was cuts in taxes and this was the message for companies outside, too, not just carrier. If youre thinking about it, give me time. That was the great part of the pitch. And i think, listen, if you look at the numbers, i think keeping the jobs there cost the company itself Something Like 2 cents a share in quarterly earnings, which is not a lot. They probably think they can make it up but a combination of the good part, which is less regulations and a friendly environment where you have lower Corporate Taxes. And then the bad part, which im surprised kennedy didnt talk about this because libertarians generally hate this part. Its when states come in there and they just craft special deals for businesses. Yep. I think that is the most abhorrent way to keep businesses in the state because what youre doing is youre basically telling middle class people, okay, you pitch in to help keep this business in your state. But havent they been successful for states like texas and others taking millions of jobs from states like california . No. Let me make the point here. Whats been successful for texas is the lower state tax rates and regulations, not the giveaways. New york state is very big on this by the way. You know, businesses keep running out. What do they do . Companies want to leave. They give you all these tax incentives and still most of the jobs leave. But charlies right because they are essentially subsidies. Whoa, whoa, whoa, you said charlies right. Charlie, were touching hands. Stop, stop. Look at the bottom of the screen. Fox news alert. Yeah. California has such a prohibitive environment, the factory in california very difficult, a lot easier to go to places like texas because they have not just have you ever contemplated going to mexico . Yeah, they actually did and they decided to stay in america. You know, have a little bit more of a diy marketing plan. Make America Great again. This was broadly criticized. A lot of democrats said be careful what you wish for because you are, you know, picking and choosing your winners. Now, of course they that is this administration, has been blamed for doing that with friendly energy, clean energy. Right. So can you have it both ways . Well, we obviously cant. We lost. So thats not working out too well for us at this moment. I think, you know, at base we should all be excited that more americans have jobs, especially going into the holiday season. Why dont you look excited . I dont . Im trying to smile. No, im just kidding. Thats a nancy pelosi smile. Are you saying she has botox. I said no botox yet. People on the internet think i need it. So there are two issues at play here. One Bernie Sanders raised which is companies, corporations now will kind of pretend that theyre going to offshore. Theyll say to donald trump, oh, were going to move, then knowing that theyre going to get tax incentives to stay. This is all something donald trump railed against during the campaign, these government incentives. Wouldnt be the first time its happened and long before donald trump. Companies play off the state. Im raising the issue kind of the only things in the Bernie Sanders oped in the Washington Post that he raised that i thought was really important. Then in the wall street journal editorial they talked about a dangerous precedent here and that maybe corporations would not set up here in america because they were worried about kind of blowback or donald trump says pulling down the hammer on them if they then had to offshore because of free markets. This isnt an economic policy. This doesnt mean, you know, its not a plan thats going to take him through these four years as the rest of the panels discussed. You need to talk about tax code and things like that. But ill tell you there was no trade tariff enacted, there was no higher priced goods put into place. So if youre fearing Donald Trumps talk leads to all of this stuff and he had threatened tariffs, he had threatened big taxes on companies that do this sort of thing, could be like teddy roosevelt, speak softly, carry big stick. Just the threat of that will give companies pause. What do you think . Well, donald trump definitely has a lot of big talk. And hs taking credit for this. But this really wasnt so much, i dont think, about what trump did or what trump threatened as it was about what the state did. Carriers going to get about 7 million in tax benefits for keeping the jobs there. That now while im with you guys im not a big fan of government picking and choosing its winners, but im a much bigger fan of using the tax code as a carrot rather than using it as a stick. Great point. The subject is essentially mercantilism. Thats what donald trump is practicing here. Im going to come beat you up, i might yell at you, and i want a direct and i might tariff the hell out of you if you dont follow what i say. And that is a that is what i dont know. I wonder if were over analyzing this. Charles, the way i look 1,100 people were staring at a pretty bad christmas, now theyre going to have one and still have their job and we can say whether this is pure thing to do, the right thing to do, bottom line these people still have jobs. And they wouldnt have had the jobs if the president elect didnt pick up the phone and do Something Like this. Now, its one thing if you do that at a price and you huge tax concessions state by state or even at a federal level. We dont know. We know whatever incentives used were fairly cheap by todays standards, 7 million over ten years and i would argue money well spent. Thats just me. Listen, lets also say at some point theres going to be a showdown. We dont know it could be ford or someone like that. And also lets not forget too that still half of these jobs are probably going to dpo to mexico anyway. You dont know. They were sending about 2,000 down there, so essentially yes. But the 1,100 stay. No, 1,100 are here. You sound like a hater. No, im saying theres going to be a showdown down the road. I think everyone, even jessicas happy about this carrier news. The folks out there, the real haters, the krugmans of the world. Right. Theres going to be a bigger showdown to come, i think, somewhere down the road. Real quickly, charlie, will the administration respond lets see donald trump do this times 800 something, i think to say this is the number of manufacturing jobs weve had over the last eight years gained. And im thinking to myself, well, thats a fairly low bar. If thats what youre bragging about over eight years. Not bad. Thatd be pretty good because my only point is, lets hope theyre staying because of the overall regulatory policy, not the giveaways. If thats the case, Donald Trumps going to be a very, very successful president. One other part we didnt mention, another reason to stay is booming economy. Which i think were headed. I think thats adding to peoples optimism and the corporations optimism. But why do corporations go overseas . Why do they go to factories in mexico . Because its cheaper. Labor cheaper, overhead cheaper, materials are cheaper. Warmer weather. How are you going to in the United States if everyone is guaranteed a higher federal minimum wage . Were going to go to break here. Did you see these Ohare Airport workers joining the fight for a 50 minimum wage . And one union guy, the gall to try shutting down Fox Business Networks coverage. 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But youre just on Live Television here on fox network, this guy tried to stop me from interviewing somebody. I dont like that. Hes not doing that. You are doing that. This guy did it right here. You know, jeff is usually such an unassuming nice polite guy. Hes reporting live from trump somewhere. But that was Fox Business Network jeff flock taking a moment that became quickly viral with a union worker. I dont know. I should say, charlie, whether it was viral or vile, the treatment he got, whatd you think . Well, you know, journalists get beat up and sit on and pushed around all the time in these sort of atmospheres. I think what he did was handle it really well. Right. He said, listen, he caught the guy in the act and he turned the tables on him. And i think, listen, this is this union guy didnt want this woman to talk. They had their preselected people who could talk to the media. Lets be real clear. This isnt like a private sector union, by the way private sector union, construction unions, theyll talk your ear off all day. This is a Public Sector union where the people are paid on the taxpayer dime. So the Public Sector union on Public Sector employees are telling them they cant speak. That sounds outrageous. It is weird. Kennedy, one of the things came to mind regardless of how you feel about unions or any of this stuff, the role in these national strikes for 15, i oftentimes see more union people than i do those legitimately making the push for the higher wages for themselves. Yeah. Thats right. So you have to question their motivation. Why are they trying to get so many people out there . Why are they trying to get so many people to unionize . Are they really attempting to make peoples lives better . Are they really attempting to level the Playing Field and allow people a living wage . No. They want that living wage to add to the union coffers. Ive seen this happen before. I covered a huge union rally and was surrounded by people and had a crowd close in on me. Well, they like you. Youre very popular. I think it was my lady musk and they could just they knew it smelled like victory. Im holding myself back right now as you say that. Theyre controlling thugs. And this is a prime example of it. You have people out there who have legitimate stories, and maybe people got to know their stories it would humanize it a little bit, but that is very inhumanly. I think november 8th we saw so many Union Workers defy their leaders, guys like that big burly guy who shut down a woman and vote for donald trump. Their membership was already declining. The Public Sectors holding up okay, but its these guys have gotten everything wrong. And that was a prime example of it right there. You know, lenore, one of the things i noticed ohare strike and these are some of the ones that get your wheelchairs to and from planes to clean the planes and all of that, theyre paid minimum wage, but theyre also given minimum hours to work. So they make even less as a result. Some of that seems fixable by simply allowing them more hours to work. Theres definitely ways that this can be fixed, but i think the way the union is behaving theyre making it very clear that their objectives are anything but straightforward. They are not allowing people to speak their minds freely when they come to protest. And if youre protesting, its because you want attention. And yet you turn away when somebody gives you the attention. Jess, what do you make of all that . I think everyone should speak to the press about especially if youre out there protesting and, you know, make your case in that way those personal stories do a lot to humanize the cause. I personally think 15 is too high and unachievable in this climate, but talk to the press and thought jeff flock handled it really well as well. Jess, you find it odd that most of the goons at unions are not thin themselves. Dont make me do any fat shaming about my union friends. Burly i think was a nice descriptor. By the way, im in a big old glass bakery so who am i to poke fun . I wa to thank you on that. We have a lot more coming up. President elect trumps pick for health and human service, years ago the Health Care Law needs some major surgery. Good thing hes a doctor because hes not this is more than just a credit card. Its how adventure begins. And with the miles you can earn, its always taking you closer to your next unforgettable experience. Become a cardmember and start enjoying benefits built to take you further. Like group 1 boarding. And no foreign transaction fees. 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Especially if youre trying to keep the elements of obamacare that were most problematic, which is preexisting conditions, how do you have that without the individual mandate. Because if you try to keep the preexisting condition clause, you can make insurance prices absolutely skyrocket, which will bankrupt so many people who are already hurting from raising premium rates. I do like that price is a policy person. I like that hes a fiscal conservative. And hes also, as you said, an orthopedic surgeon. Its very rare to have someone like that whos got yeah, he knows what hes doing. Hes got a hand in each world. So im very confident with this pick, union, in contrast with some of the others. I think this was a very smart move, as well as seema ver ma, whos going to run medicare and medicaid. But jessica, you had pointed out, its a lot easier said than done taking this thing apart. And the longer it goes on, the harder, still. You have another election then, right . You read my mind and is that what your hope is, that this is resolved in a follow up election . Yeah, i think so. I think at the end of the day, that obamacare isnt going to be repealed. Donald trump has spoken favorably about a few of the aspects of it. You think about this for years, and also look at how americans feel about it right now. The Kaiser FamilyFoundation Just released a poll showing only 25 want repeal. And since the election, theres a significant drop 75 are not getting what . No come on, be fair. Its a lot of people. The way that this is going, is it really going to get done or is it looking tougher now than they thought . I think its definitely going to be tougher than they thought. But i think they have a lot of support of the American People to fix this thing. Prices keep going up and the quality and the coverage keeps going down. Hopefully, theyll turn to the private sector and say, hey, can you help figure this out . 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After the big thank you tour comes the big presser. President elect donald trump gearing up to hold a big media event with his children, announcing that he will separate himself from his businesses. But somehow here on this panel says easier said than done. Is that person right or wrong . Im trish regan in for david asman welcome to forbes on fox. Lets find out with mike, sabrina shaver, bill baldwin, and bruce jaszman. Ill start with you, mike. Do you think he can do this here . Hes got to celebrate this big, Massive Company that he has successfully built from everything hes going to do