Transcripts For FBC Cavuto Coast To Coast 20170626

I have done the math. The doubling premiums you promised would stay low. What is mean is limiting their options for care when you promised they would still have plenty of options for care. What is mean, is saying you can keep your have, when you cant keep your doctor. What is mean forcing young people to pay up for coverage when maybe they cant afford that coverage. What is mean is saying government subsidies will help when they havent or plenty of state exchanges will have their back when they can. What is mean, premium increases that keep soaring. And coverage keeps shrinking. For one party to claim the other party is all bad, that republicans are the ones who concocted a mess theyre trying to fix, that is a by the rich. And a lot wrong. Then to add insult to injury here we have Nancy Pelosis remarks that hundreds of thousands of people will die. How does she know that . What does she base that on . Media gloms on to it accept its a given. That is mean and cruel the height of reville. What is mean and cruel of height of evil to lose sight of some of the stuff going on with the Health Care Law as is. Any of the problems with it dont have anything to do with the offerings republicans are coming up with a new revised offer coming up hours from now. Premiums have doubled, tripled in most states across this country. It has everything to do with higher deductibles t has everything to do with limited coverage. It has everything to do with people getting coverage at the price they want, they have higher upfront costs to keep it within their budget and means. That is reality. Who is zooming who . To the federalists bree peyton. Im hardly a apologist for republicans and their plan. I have ample differences way they approach it, just obamacare light than obamacare very different. Having said that, death thing, thousands of people werent going to die . Werent democrats making fun of death panels. This is that on steroids. What it forced people to buy insurance plans they didnt want, premiums which increased, one of my coworkers who has an obamacare plan, her premiums went up 96 this year. It also expanded medicaid which a lot of doctors are accepting less and less frequently because reimbursement pennies on the dollar for what Health Care Professionals should get paid for their services. Very clear this narrative is just completely false. The media is focusing on it and pushing it because it fits the narrative republicans are mean. Honestly to this point, obamacare light, i think only mean aspect of the Republicans Health care plan, it doesnt bo far enough to repeal obamacare. Instead what it does, it throws billions of dollars in corporate welfare to Insurance Companies to deflate premiums couple years to win another term in the house and another election in 2020. Neil you costep back on that, i will pursue this next couple hours, bree, that democrats won the argument. They won the argument that the government will be in one way, shape or form in charge of health care. The only difference is deagree is which it is. That bothers me, it thes is in stone something that could easily spiral out of control. What do you think . I think youre completely right. Leaving aspects and skeletal framework of obamacare in place chipping away aspects of it will cause more problems down the road for average americans like you and me. I think a lot of the narrative we are seeing, that this is just tax cuts for the rich, et cetera, et cetera, is really completely false. I expect the congressional budget analysis were anticipating to come out later today is just going to be a partisan hack job, just like their analysis of the house version of the plan was. Neil what worries me about these analyses to your point theyre based on supposition. I dont fault the cbo, dealing with data the best way it can, but doesnt exactly have a great track record. Right. Neil the fact of the matter it is guestimating how many people will not have insurance or fewer americans will have insurance as a result. If you take the away the requirement you have to have Health Insurance, good many people, particularly young people, say to heck with it, im opting out. Leaving that aside it is trying to get some level of Cost Containment here. Even things like medicare, started at 65 million a year now it is a trillion Dollar Program and then some, it can get out of control unless you put some sort of limit, caps, recognize basic math ahead of that. Yeah, youre totally right. I mean for every dollar in taxes that we pay, nearly half of that dollar goes towards Entitlement Programs, including medicaid. So any sort of program like obamacare that expands medicaid and exacerbates that problem and rushes us towards, you know, impending doom and death in terms of the deficit, in terms of the budget, in terms of just completely going breakfastter is honestly a lot meaner than reforming medicaid and fixing the problem. Neil wellsaid. Continue one at a time. I want to go to a doctor, family in emergency medicine doctor. Doctor, one of the things i keep hearing again and again on this notion that people are going to die as a result of this. Thousands according to nancy pelosi. What do you make of that argument that because republicans are tightening up some eligible requirements here a lot of people are going to die . Assuming prior to this coming along people were dying left and right . That is a bit of an exaggeration, neil, it is completely inappropriate to put fear in minds of all patients in america. Look, i said in this before no one in this country should be denied medical care because they cant afford it or forced into financial ruin or bankruptcy because they cant afford it. I understand it is not a constitutional right to have health care, but it is morally and ethically right to provide medical care to our neighbor especially those most vulnerable, our children, elderly, those disabled. Will it ultimately directly kill patients . No it is not. You know what . We have what is called an emergency room. No one is denied medical care in an emergency room in a emergency situation. Neil where do you think she got that, nancy pelosi got notion of hundreds of thousands of people will die if this bill passes, based on what . Sometimes the fear you can put in the mine of patients and voters might alarm them, might see some changes there but i think that is inappropriate. I think what needs to happen democrats to need involved, need to be proact he tiff and not react he tiff. They need to negotiate and work with the republican counterparts. Neil do you think, doctor, that, you also run a practice, you have a business to run as well, that this attempt on the part of republicans, there will be several of them. Were told another revised plan is due out later today just on the senate side, that it is accepting at face value that the government will now have a role in health care . Are you okay with that . Right now, that is just something thats happened for many, many years, since the 1950s, 1960s. But what theyre trying to do now is shift control and give power to the states. Theyre trying to do that. Theyre trying to give more power to the states. Neil is that better for you from your perspective, doctor . Is that better because it is more local, more regional, more to the needs of the patient in that area . You know what . If the government is helping Fund Medical Care for patients, federal government is helping, so they have to have some part of it but they are doing right thing by trying to shift the power to the states, trying to stablize insurance markets. Trying to strengthen medicaid. In addition to that, preserve preexisting coverage. A lot of things that people are forgetting stay on your Parents Health Care Insurance until age 26. Those with medicaid will not lose their coverage. When they say medicaid cuts, theyre talking about looking into the future to reduce expansion. You know with the economy, with growth, with tax cuts we may not need continued expansion of medicaid. That is a step in the right direction. Neil doctor, thank you very, very much. To the doctors fine point we should stress cuts have a different meaning in washington where you dont go in reverse on this you just slow the growth in the medicaid budget. Many people argue that will not compensate or keep up with patients and demands. Nothing is being cut here. Nothing is being reversed or being cut. Just the rate of growth is. Why get into those nasty facts. Freedomworks says problem is republicans are not doing enough, but actually theyre growing to far on all of this. He joins me now. Adam, your you view here republicans are playing to the tune that democrats already had with the Affordable Care act, just presumably a lighter, slightly leaner version of it, right . Yes, and when i take a look at all the campaigns going back to 2010, every republican has run on obamacare repeal. Mitch mcconnells famous line, well repeal this thing root and branch. Neil right. That is what the electorate wanted. When you get here to d. C. , this is a perfect example of the swamp of the swamp coming in to preserve a government program. Neil you automatically, look, just callous and mean and like a real sob when something people have gotten used to in the last seven years, youre telling them that went too far or well scale that back. All of sudden youre doing the nancy pelosi thing, killing hundreds of thousands of people. No one bats an eyelid. Accept it at face value. We cant accept the Current System at face value. Obamacare is collapsing. Im hearing story of our activists their premiums are beginning to rise up and up and up. Heritage foundation said up to 66 of health care increases since 2013 have districtly attributable to obamacare. We have to stop the bleeding. First do no harm. Go back rip obamacare out. I would be happy change the bill in twoways, go back to the 2015 repeal obama himself vetoed. Or just that, the meadowsmacarthur amendment back in allows states to opt out of title one, we could have this battle in the states. Neil meantime it is what it is. Republicans will try to regroup and at least in the senate come up with a more acceptable version, moderates, those who are concerned about medicaid and related cuts, but medicaid itself good example of program supposed to benefit 4 to 5 of the medical population, now over 40 . That is not sustainable. It is not sustainable. It is our Fastest Growing Entitlement Program right now. Were talking about moral issues. It is not moral to bankrupt the United States. I am a Firm Believer in freemarket capitalism. I believe the market can be a tremendous amount of help here in lowering costs by increasing choice. But when you look at our current path right now, it is not sustainable. If you were the chinese and youre designing a poison pill program for the United States, our Health System is what they would probably design because we are absolutely hollowing out our future by programs we can not afford. Neil wellput. Thank you very much. Adam brandon. Thank you. Neil i keep mentioning these nancy pelosi remarks, put them in perspective, if you accept face value what she is saying this is going to kill hundreds of thousands of people, by definition you have to accept her argument, hundreds of thousands of lives have been saved by the Health Care Law, prove it. Someone please prove it. Issue i will be raising even though he head as Different Department with dr. Ben carson tomorrow on coast to coast at noon on this very fine show. What is at issue here. These same old arguments exist. He encounters a great deal of heat, how he wants to run housing and urban development, make the housing we provide for the poor more productive, so they are not always poor. They have a chance to aspire to Something Better rather than just the government. Well have more after this. [vo] when it comes to investing, looking from a fresh perspective can make all the difference. It can provide what we call an unlock a realization that often reveals a better path forward. At wells fargo, its our expertise in finding this kind of insight that has lead us to become one of the largest investment and Wealth Management firms in the country. Discover how we can help find your unlock. Neil all right. Not a tweet. A statement from President Trump who says the Supreme Court decision on this travel ban is clear victory for our National Security a big win by 90 vote, essentially means the Supreme Court will rule on this in october. Or at least hearing oral arguments on them. Probably a month after that an outright decision. Something keeps in effect most of the broad parameters of the president s travel ban, essentially reversing two different appeals courts tried to slow it down, not stop it. Blake burman with the latest reaction. Reporter neil, for weeks on ends for months, when the white house is asked, they have taken the position in face of lower Court Setback after set bark, look we feel this is legal. We feel it is within the president s bounds. They feel they have stayed within the lines on all of this. The statement that they just put out, as you just summarized expresses just that we expect to hear from White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer offcamara in a little bit to get a little more perspective from the white houses point of view now that this ruling has officially come in. No doubt about it, this is a temporary win for the president as the Supreme Court will take up this issue again in the fall at some point. Though they do say, as it relates to the here and now, that part of what is put on hold is whether or not somebody has a bonafide relationship with the u. S. Here is part of the Supreme Courts ruling. They say, and i quote here, an american individual or entity that has a bonafide relationship with a particular person seeking to enter the country as a refugee, we do not disturb the injunction. That says as is. However, here is what the big win is for President Trump and the white house this is the part that allows the travel ban and refugee process to be put on hold, stay in that manner. The very next sentence goes as follows. They write, quote, when it comes to refugees who lack any such connection to the United States, the balance tips in favor of the governments compelling need to provide for the nations security. The two words at the end, nations security, which you saw the president in his statement just reference. As for the way going forward, neil, it is expected that the president will implement parts of this, narrow scope within the next 72 hours. As i mentioned Supreme Court will take this up probably in october in the fall. A few of the justices gave a little bit of insight how they view all of this. As justices thomas, alito and neil gorsuch took issue with the scope of this, as to how they kind of narrowly focused the scope of this, the Supreme Court. Either way a win for president and administration on this day as we await official comments from his press secretary to half hour, 45 minutes from now. Neil thank you very much, blake burman. We have the former chair of the house intel committee, congressman pete hoekstra. Congressman, very good to have you back with us. What do you think of this . Interpreted as a early win. We dont know how the final decision will pan out in the fall, what do you make of it . It is good to be with you, neil. There are four areas where this is very, very positive. This clearly from the Supreme Court sends a message to the lower courts, get out of politics. At the next level, im always concerned about the level of power that the presidency has but im concerned the president , the office should have the authority to implement these kind of actions to keep america safe. Third, i think the policy was right, and at forth level, yeah, this was a win for donald trump. So i think on a number of Different Levels this was a good day for the country and for the president. Neil pete, i was looking at the decision, im no lawyer, but i wondered they already thread the needle very judiciously, if you dont mind the play on words and let this stand as final decision. We like what the president is doing. Understand what he is trying to do. We dont want adversely impact those with connection or ties or either family or business here and leave it at that, wrap it up, call it a day. Instead we have to wait until october. I dont think they have had arguments and all of that but well wait for october. But the die is pretty much cast direction alley where this court is leaning. It would have been one thing if this was a 54 court. But unanimous decision by the court. I think sends a strong message on all of these levels. Neil youre right. They could have just said well take this up in october but they were quick to hasten here, that we are now putting back a lot of the stipulations that the president had with this in the interim. Let me switch gears, if you dont mind, congressman, talk a little bit about the fact that republicans were told hours away from senate rework, doover, not completely a mulligan, but close to it on the health care thing to secure more votes before the july 4th recess i assume. What do you make of that . They seem to have a real Battle Royale on their hands . They do. This is a very, very difficult fight. This is not at all a surprise. Mitch mcconnell roughly knew he was going to have some defections. He now has kind of a, he gauged the Playing Field and said okay, ive got to go back. I have got to do a mulligan. I have got to make changes to get to 50 votes. That is not surprising. That is how the process works. Whats that . Neil do you think he would do a vote either way . Paul ryan is famous for not even attempting a vote unless he has votes there. Mitch mcconnell not so much. What do you make of that . I think republicans in the senate and country would be best off leader mcconnell puts the bill on the floor when he thinks he is ready. As close as he believes he can get to 50 republican votes, put it on the floor of the senate, have the vote. That sets clarity. If he gets 50 votes, they go to the house, they have a conference. If they dont get votes, says okay weve got problems in health care. Well have to figure out a different way to resolve issue. Meaning they have to work with the democrats. Neil congressman, when i first heard those remarks by nancy pelosi on this Senate Measure i couldnt believe them. I checked them. Indeed she said this. We do know many more people. Hundreds of thousands of people will die if this bill passes. What did you think of that . I mean it is absolutely outrageous. This is about how were going to Structure Health care. The debate whether it is going to be done by government or whether were going to allow doctors and private sector have more influence over health care and whether you and i will be making that those decisions or whether a government bureaucrat. Just ask nancy pelosi. Do you really Want Health Care for all americans to look like what our veterans are getting through the va, or do you believe that there is a better mechanism to make this happen . You know, i think both republicans and democrats should stop talking about 30 or 40,000 feet, and Start Talking about really how this impacts you and me and american citizens on a daily basis and how we get health care, but you know, there is no of the he that hundreds of thousands of people are going to die because of this. You know, many of us believe that if we move, that if through innovation, in private sector reform, we will see better Quality Health care. Well see more innovation. Well see the costs go down like we see in a whole lot of different areas. You let free market, let the american entrepreneurial spirit thrive and which all benefit. We all benefit at lower costs. Neil maybe republicans should counter it, hundreds of thousands of will live currenter this ridiculous argument. Chairman, always good to see you again. Good to see you, neil. Neil net flings, amazon, facebook now wants to do it, create original tv content. 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Tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if you have any medical conditions. So now that you know all that, what do you think . That its time to think about jardiance. Ask your doctor about jardiance. And get to the heart of what matters. Neil all right. Were getting a clarification from a senior senator republican aide telling fox that this revision or update on the Senate Health care plan, whatever you want to call it, really just a technical correction of the bill. It doesnt represent a compromised designed to win over skeptical gop senators. It he occurs on the same day were due up for a score from the Congressional Budget Office from this. We were by now hoping to get one, given a chance for republicans to clarify what they want to do here, whether this will address that. They are saying whatever they will come out with, will be a technical correction to the bill, not a whole new bill to win over doubting senators. There are five by last count. Facebook hoping to do what amazon and others are hoping to do, find unique programing source to them. Mashable kerry flynn a friend. Facebook is looking to get more highend, high quality, original content what you would see on netflix, hulu or Traditional Television networks some what theyre doing trying to provide another reason for you and i to open the facebook app every day. Beyond looking at my friends photos, family photos, sharing news articles. They want to stay engaged in the app to make money. Neil if youre engaged in the app, kerry, youre watching exclusive programing on facebook, will it have commercials or something to advertisers would covet . Facebook for a little bit has been testing minimal advertisements, a fancy word for a commercial. Youre watching a 10 minute video. Maybe after first couple minutes there are 15 seconds or 30 second ad break. Like television, opposite of youtube where you see like ad before the content. This is just would be in the middle. Neil i see. Another thing i wonder about whether they will have all this programing dumped . In other words get it, like 20 episodes of house of cards in one fell swoop on it. They dont want to do that, right . They havent talked exactly how programing strategy will work. It will be a casebycase basis. Theyre in conversations with Digital Media companies, individualtores and tv networks to strategize what type of shows to build. You would be seeing daily programing, weekly programing or like you said a bunch of content or videos on the platform at once. Neil kerry, i wonder if they move far afield from where they were and costly what they do. We said this about netflix, not you, i was one worrying about the cost of programing, whether that would eat their costs alive. They found a way to make it work. Wondering in facebooks case. Things are more expensive to produce, no matter where you do it, could this be a money burner for that . There are reports theyre spending upwards of 3 million per episode, that is not cheap. Game of thrones is probably double that, this is definitely not cheap content. That is not what theyre going fore. Good thing for facebook they have a lot of money in the bank. They can spend but they do have a lot of competitors. There is hulu, netflix, traditional tv. There is am a son, like you said there is amazon and there is twitter. There is snapchat. There is apple starting to play this game of new highend video content. Neil well watch closely, kerry flynn, mashable business reporter. Following very closely day one of this trial for martin shkreli. Has nothing to do with some of the sins he is known for hiking lifesaving drugs part of his can require. It has everything to do using a hedge fund to hedge off that in a ponzi scheme. Ironically could be Something Like that could land him behind bars. After this. 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Defense attorney at some point will say, you might want to sit up straight and neil cheryl, thank you very much. Cheryl casone. When we talk about Things Health care related, this is a bit of a stretch here. One of the things you learn, if it sounds too good to be true, probably is. Found out hard way with something called california universal coverage apparently not quite what the doctor ordered. Gerri willis with details. Hi, there, neil. Unbelievable. We talked a lot about senate bill 6028, the Better Care Reconciliation Act and draft made public by Senate Republicans there. Is another senate bill washington lawmakers would do well to Pay Attention to, that is California Senate bill 562. That bill would set up a universal singlepayer Health Care System in the state of california. Led by nurses unions. It was spiked by assembly speaker, quote, woefully incomplete. The big problem, proponents yet to identify a source of funding for the bill. A legislative analysis pegged with costs at 400 billion. The bill received support from senator Bernie Sanders who plans to introduce similar legislation at the federal level. In a speech in los angeles he told the democraticcontrolled legislature in california, please leave the country and pass a singlepayer bill. But Big Questions about the cost were raised by many, including governor jerry brown. Health care debate became an issue in the governors debate. Former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa a democrat compared unfunded health care promises to snake oil. That is a dig at Lieutenant Governor gavin newsom who pledged to support a universal Health System if he is elected governor. Senate bill 562 in california would have wiped out the Current Health insurance market, authorize the government to negotiate prices with services with doctors and hospitals. Sounded good on paper to some folk, neil. Ultimately the numbers just didnt add up. Neil time and again these kind of things, numbers do not add up. Thank you very much, gerri. Meanwhile illinois on just the brink now of becoming first state to hit junk credit status, which is essentially one step away from bankrupt. Jeff flock live from chicago with the very latest on that. Jeff . Reporter which you sort of cant do, as you the, neil, push getting pretty close to shove here in illinois. Im at a construction site, one of 700 construction sites around the state which are going to shut down this friday if we dont get a budget. Take a look at the last time we had a budget in illinois. Almost go years ago to the day, july 1st, 2015. Weve gone 727 days. They got a letter from the department of transportation, we hope the situation is resolved before then, the department is notifying all construction workers to shut down on june this. They just dont have anymore money to pay them of the state has almost 15 billion in unpaid bills. The structural deficit in the budget is 7 billion. And dont even talk about unfunded pension liabilities. That is now over a quarter of a trillion dollars. That is a whole problem of its own. Nobody wants to raise, nobody wants to raise income taxes in this state. Actually about 30 of the state really does want to raise income taxes because they realize it is pretty much going to have to. S p has said, essentially, the unrelenting political brinksmanship is now poses a threat to timely payment of the states core priority payments, if you dont raise taxes dont get money somehow. Roads like were talking about here. Of salaries for state employees. They might not open the schools, neil. If you get to that point, i dont know. People come out with pitchforks, torches, god knows what. The deadline is the end of this week. Republican governor and democraticcontrolled legislature arent even talking to each other. They have got a week to go. Neil . Neil this could play out in host of other states facing, just talking about the unfunded pension liabilities. A lot of it. Reporter by law they can not to bankrupt. Not like detroit or new york city could have done years ago. So i dont know what the ends is. We dont have an answer. Neil not yet at least. Jeff, thank you very, very much. Were watching this very closely, illinois and other states money in, money out, it is math. I keep pounding the basics. It seems like a cold, callous read on all of this but unless you can find a way to pay for a lot of this stuff, just saying you will continue to offer it without a viable financial plan, dealing at state level in illinois or National Level in washington, d. C. , on health care, youre really feeling people, especially when you add insult to injury, if you do something calls for slightly better math, you will kill hundreds of thousands of people. That is on health care. That is enough to make you sick. More after this. Art. 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Here was a regular veteran, watcher growing up of abc news, back in the days of frank reynolds, Peter Jennings and different incarnations where he felt he could trust the delivery and trust the delivererrer. No more. This is happening across a lot of different media, that doesnt even dare to question some of the, sometimes outlandish stuff being said. What do you make of this . Yes, absolutely, neil. Kyle courtney is speaking for lot of people. Accuracy in media has been around nearly 50 years talking about the liberal bias in the media. So were very familiar with it. When you look at, for instance, the, what we call the incest between the Democrat Party and the, major networks, for instance, abc, ben schorr wood, his sister was on obamas National Security council, david rhodes, the president of cbs news, his brother, ben rhodes is deputy National Security advisor for obama. You have this across the board, this Harvard Shorenstein study shows the first 100 days or so of the Trump Administration, how the coverage has been even, particularly cnn, and nbc, 93 negative. Now i question that. I still havent seen 7 positive coverage on either network. Neil one of the things that you do wonder about, roger, i always say, people interpret the news through their own prism and their own bias and own set of facts. What i always like to argue with people, regardless of your political viewpoint, in my case i had three hours of programing i do a day here. Two hours on this fine channel. An hour on fox news. There are several 24 hour news channels. Several 24 hour business channels. We have time to get into any and all. Plenty of time to get into the russia, collusion charges, donald trump, whether he is crazy, if you want to do any of that, fine, fine. You also have time to step back to go into some of the other issues that are out there like the president meeting with ceos. Like the president improving market economies. Time to get into all of that. But what worries me, when we pick and choose one or the other. We have time to do both. We have time to do both. Tell you what they really should be investigating, there should be special counsel looking into hillarys collision with the russians. Uranium one, podestas ties. Obama during the election saying that oh, hillary was just careless, while the investigation was going on. We know what happened with live lynch, meeting bill clinton on the tarmac. And then telling comey this is a matter, not an investigation. I think he understood there was never going to be an indictment. That is why he laid out such a compelling case. Here with trump, you have this situation where, hey, he was told by comey three times, youre not under investigation. Cnn and abc both reported two days before comeys testimony earlier this month that he was going to be saying, no, i did not tell him that. Two days later he released he had said that, put to shame their Anonymous Sources brings into question some other Anonymous Sources. Neil you have to wonder about this. President of this media never been a great fan nor he of theirs. I wonder when i hear outrageous comments from the left, nancy pelosi this morning on cbs news saying hundreds of thousands of people will die if this Senate Health bill passes. Im, im wondering where the challenge is to Something Like that. Where do you come up with a number like that . If a republican had said it, it would certainly be pounced on as it should to follow up on it. None of that. That is what worries me. Right, she doesnt feel the restraint to have to come up with a explanation for her numbers. Saying blood money and theyre killing hundreds of thousands of people. Neil theyre mean and callous and, i just argue that what we have might be mean and callous because of what happened under this with rising premiums. In other words, it gets back to as we talked before, roger about time to get into all of that. You cant be so distorted in your thinking that it one or the other. You can do both. Yes. Absolutely. Bernie sanders yesterday on meet the press, chuck todd, whose wife has helped him tremendously through her marketing firm, he never mentions that, he never asks him the tough questions about the people who are out he killing and shooting in his name, about where he comes up with these figures, about he and his wife being under investigation for what happened with the college of vermont. Neil plenty of time to get into this stuff. Were not doing it. Were not doing it. Roger, thank you. Thank you. Neil Holding People accountable on both sides of the ledger. To nancy pelosi and that hundreds of thousands of people will die, think that through. That is a leader in washington telling people what is just a craze he sy statement. That is a crazy, crazy statement. We focus on crazy statements out of the right, do we ever focus on the left . St after this. Often reveals a better path forward. At wells fargo, its our expertise in finding this kind of insight that has lead us to become one of the largest investment and Wealth Management firms in the country. Discover how we can help find your unlock. We havent seen the cbo report yet. We do know that the, many more people millions, hundreds of thousands of people will die if this bill passes. Trying to be overly dramatic. Thousands of people will die. I mean, if you dont have any Health Insurance and you have a chronic disease and you cant afford your prescription drugs, you know what . You will die, youll become much sicker. The way this bill cuts health care is heartless. The president said the house bill was mean. The Senate Bill May be meaner. Neil all right. Mean, meaner, hundreds of thousands will die. Really, folks . Really . I raised this last week on your world, my fox news show, how out of control this hyperbole has gotten. And i mean out of control. Take a look. Whats heartless is when the same Chuck Schumer says this Senate Measure will send costs soaring while refusing to see those costs already are soaring. What is heartless is saying republicans are actually killing people. They actually said that. When, in fact, what is really heartless is year after year of obamacare lemmings lying to people, all the people, about deductibles now pricier than some premiums and premiums pricier than most can afford. Now, if that is compassion, what counts for clueless . If that shows heart, how then to explain this presentday health care hell . That is what is heartless. That is over the top hypocrisy on the left. That is what is mean. So regardless of your political view point, when youre starting to reduce this to hundreds of thousands of people dying and you cant back it up, prove it or use anything approaching reliable numbers to vindicate or reveal what youre saying or to remotely prove what youre saying, were out of control here, folks. And all of this when were supposed to get a technical sort of clarification of the republican plan in the senate. Its actually going to be sort of a precursor to the cbo, the Congressional Budget Office, scoring this thing. Which im very glad my next guest is here to clarify, the former acting director, barry anderson, who really gets to the heart of the matter by saying, look, none of these plans address the underlying problem which is the run costs involved in all of this. Barry, good to have you. Good to talk to you, neil. Neil a lot of hyperbole, very little cool, rational thinking behind all of this. Wheres it going, do you think . Well, you know, ive got to confess, when i look at the hyperbole that comes out of there, when i look at the bills, the first thing i think of is my grandchildren. What does the bill, what does it really mean towards my grandchildren. And when i looked at the senate bill, again, i confess the thing that really impressed me most was a reform of medicaid. Medicaid is one of the big drivers of our to unsustainable fiscal position long term. And finally, a bill is going to address some of that. And it can and should be addressed. So the hyperbole theyre using about whatever, thousands of people dying and things like that, well, i try and look whats actually in the bill, and i really do think that taking a look at reforming medicaid is long, long overdue and that this bill can add to it. But as you said, neil, im upset that it doesnt take a look at the long, the real fundamental costs of health care. Of course, the Affordable Care act didnt do that, nor did the house bill, nor did the senate bill. Neil you know what i worry about whether you are for medicaid, you cant be for the math that is increasingly not sustaining it. You know, something that used to, whose goal was the help 45 of the population, and now were up to 40 in some cases. That is simply not sustain the bl. So im wondering if the math on both sides is specious, and were going out of the frying pan into the fire. What do you see happening . Again, washington needs a real kick in the butt in order to get things done x this may be what they need in order to do the proper reforms in medicaid. You know, theres a lot, an awful lot of medicaid costs go to seniors and people say, ah, but its low income seniors. But there are asset tests on whether you get medicaid assistance as a senior. And the asset tests involve that you can keep a home greater than 500,000. Well, none of my kids own homes more than 500,000. [laughter] back when i was at the White House Office of management and budget, we used to have a little saying called reverse robin hood. Thats where you take money from the poor and give them to the rich. Well, in this case that may be it. I mean, if were subsidizing medicaid for seniors who have homes of 500,000 or more and taking it from people who have homes much less than that, isnt that sort of a reverse robin hood . Im not trying to take a position on what should be done neil no, i understand. Im saying that reform needs to be done. Neil well, thats the kind of thing that gets us to the point where were going to have 100 of the population dependent on medicaid and that doubling or tripling of taxes isnt doable, to your point. Thank you very much, barry anderson, the former cbo director. Thats just part of the problem, isnt it . By the way, were getting these sort of clarifications out of the Republican Senate right now which has introduced a couple of modest revisions, more to clarify not necessarily win votes including a penalty for consumers whose coverage lapses. You might recall particularly in the case of preexisting conditions if you let your coverage lapse and then sign on because youve discovered you do have a serious condition, you will have to pay a higher premium for that. But if you dont let it lapse, you dont have to worry about that. The same is holding true right now in democratic plans that are still the law of the land. But if theres a lapse and you let it lapse, youre going to pay for that. The only question is, how much . Senator dean heller becoming the fifth gop no, and a group is indicating that he is going to be targeted right here because the nevada senator dares to question something that they want to try to get republicans in lockstep on, and that is a Health Care Measure they argue will be better than the one it is hoping to replace. To America First policys spokesperson, Katrina Pierson. Is it fair to say, katrina, that senator heller is going to be targeted by republicans because of his stance . Well, i think, neil, its fair to say that senator heller is being targeted by the millions of americans, republicans and democrats, who want to see this obamacare be repealed and replaced. You know, we didnt get here overnight, and this is the biggest problem that i believe many of us have with this particular stance, is because these guys have been campaigning forever neil but why, why this senator . P why not ted cruz or mike lee or ron johnson or rand paul or others who have serious concerns like Lisa Murkowski or Susan Collins . Why not any of them . Why this poor guy . I think that is a great question. Let me answer that for you. Senators like rand paul and ted cruz have been saying the same thing since the beginning. Someone like senator heller has not. In fact, if you go back to even his campaign web site, his senate web site, hes been saying we have to get rid of obamacare, and now hes saying we dont. Senator paul and senator cruz are saying neil well, hes saying that these measures arent much different. Hes saying these measures arent much different and that its obamacare lite which is what rand paul is saying. We could get caught in the weeds, katrina, but i just feel and i wonder if in rallying around an alternative measure, youve gone from one big, old government omnibus program to a slightly less Big Government omnibus program, and this guy is the guy thats got to suffer, face a primary challenge because hes deemed more vulnerable than any of those others i mentioned. Leapt me just say let me just say none of those senators are off limits. Senator cruz says i want to get there, lets talk about how to get there. Thats two very different positions, but moving forward neil but youre okay with him being primary challenged, because the end result could be you lose a senate seat that im sure the president wants to keep in the republican fold, right . Well, of course. But at the same time, if youre going to govern as a democrat, whats the difference . Neil where do you have proof that hes governed as a democrat outside of concerns about this . Well, this is what were talking about. This is the one thing that particularly republican primary voters care most about. Neil yeah, but looking at something wait a minute, katrina. Hes looking at something that isnt markedly different from the one it replaces. Hes just saying i think we can do better, right . And we probably can neil but youre already threatening the guy. Obamacare neil if you go ahead with this, were going to primary your ass. Obamacare is gone one way or the other. Republicans did not have a plan to put up at the very beginning. There is a plan now. This is a vote to move the process forward. This is not the actual plan thats going to be in place. Theyre making revision as we speak neil right now is the time to fix it. You can do that in conference as well. This is a process decision at this point, and we need to get this process moving forward so that we can get to a final bill. Neil all right. But how can you do that under the threat of were going to primary you if you dont go along with what we say . That sounds like a bad tony soprano episode. Actually, its an accountability issue neil you have accountability for all these others, and you dont. You have accountability for him because hes the most vulnerable. Thats not fair, thats not right, and you know it this is just the beginning. Neil what do you mean . Youre going to do the same with all the others . Any house member that does not move forward on the policies that many of neil whats moving forward to you, katrina . Accepting something that is fatally flawed and even conservatives are saying is just a lighter version of what we have out there . Whats wrong with someone who stands up and says, well, you know, i dont flip over this, id like to make it bigger, but already katrinas talking about the Trump White House trying to have a primary challenge for me simply because i spoke out. First, we dont represent the white house. And somebody like a senator cruz and rand paul have said, yes, i want to get Something Better. This is a little bit different neil he has said hed like to no, he said no. He said hes not onboard. Period, thats the difference. Neil no, no, thats not what he said. He has also talked about he is open to something that could be more Cost Effective and fairer when it comes to medicaid treatment, a very big issue in his state. It is a very its a very big issue. Its a very big issue in all of the states which is exactly neil well, i dont know, it seems like youre picking and choosing who you want to screw here, and it looks like this guy is fair game. Well, any person that is not supporting putting America First in their policies and this is Something Like obamacare, something that has hurt all americans neil hes saying what youve come up with is Something Like obamacare. Look, im hardly an apologist for the guy, im just saying what hes trying to do is something that these other guys are trying to do, but for system reason he becomes the target and these other guys not. Again, this is just the beginning, and we have to move this process forward neil what do you mean its just the beginning . What does that mean . Because we have to move this bill forward if were going to get to a bill. We have to get to the conference. This would be a vote to move this process forward, and thats to all the conservatives, anyone that is still on the fence on this bill. Yes, we can make amendments, yes, we can move forward. But we have to get this vote through so that we can go to conference, neil. We cant sit here and do this for another ten months. This is something that republicans have been promising americans, you give us a republican president , we will get obamacare repealed and replaced neil and you either go along with us, or were going to primary you out even if it means risking losing the senate in the process you know what, neil . Neil cutting off your nose to spite your face. You know what . When democrats believe in something, they use that power and follow on the sword. This is the exact same thing for republicans neil as long as youre recognizing, katrina, that by falling on the sword you have a good possibility of losing a republican seat in nevada, thats your call. But thats the risk, right . We promised voters, conservatives and republicans alike, that we were going to repeal and replace obamacare. Neil well, you didnt really repeal it, and this is hardly [inaudible] this is beginning the process. This is beginning the process. Neil thats all this guys saying. Thats not what hes saying. Hes saying hes not going to support this bill. And in order to neil have you heard what hes saying, katrina . Thats not what he said at all. Yes. Thats what he said on friday. He did not want to support this bill. Neil were going nowhere fast. Thank you very much, katrina pearson. Youre very welcome. Neil more after this. Welcome to holiday inn thank you wait, i have something for you making every stay a special stay. Holiday inn, smiles ahead. Whether for big meetings or little getaways, member always save more at holidayinn. Com neil all right, a key senator is speaking out on this health care back and forthright now as republicans have put together more, you know, clearer specifications in their measure. Not to win over vote, but more specifically just to explain the math. For example, penalties for those who let their coverage lapse. Adam shapiro with an exclusive chat with senator orrin hatch whos going to play a vital role in all of this. Hey, adam. Reporter hey, neil. As chairman of senate finance, that committee has oversight over greater than 50 of the u. S. Budget, tax reform and health care. So we talked with him about the big issues of the trump agenda. Lets talk tax reform right now. President trump wants the federal tax rate lowered to 15 . Senator hatch told us during the exclusive interview that the administration has already backed off of that, looking at something around 2025 . Thats the Corporate Tax rate. Heres what he told us. Corporate tax rates are not going to change, balance the budget, but they can certainly help. And, yeah, itd be wonderful if we could get them down to 15 . Now, i think the president has probably come off of that particular figure recently, but id like to get them down, you know, if we could get them down to 25 or 20 , this country would turn around, i think, overnight. Reporter now, we did speak with him about health care. Mitch mcconnell, he says, is a master at this, and they have to win the vote in the senate or else the country faces a future for health care that orrin hatch doesnt agree with. Heres what he told us about health care. Id prefer anything other than socialized medicine. If we go that route, pretty soon health care will be almost every dime that the federal government and ive got to tell you, people were glanding more and more and more demanding more and more. If we go to socialized medicine, we deserve what we get. And were almost there. If we dont win on this issue in the United States senate, thats where were headed. Reporter but the emphasis now is on tax reform. Behind the scenes the committees from senate finance, house ways and means and the administration meet almost daily as they write the legislation. But the legislation faces a huge hurdle, thats the border adjustment tax that chairman kevin brady in the house ways and Means Committee will not let go of. Here is what orrin hatch said, he is not in favor but wont rule it out just yet. He wont give up on that. Hes very convinced thats something they just have to do. Theyre going to have to show me how it does not violate International Norms and how it really will work and how, how its not just another way of taxing people and how it will not raise retail sales rates and everything in this country so that the middle class is hurt really badly and the poor especially. These are all issues that have to be raised. Reporter you know, neil, one thing we dont talk a lot about is that 10 of the highest income earners in this country pay roughly 68 president of all federal 68 of all federal income taxes. Senator hatch told me that 10 of income earners should not expect a tax cut. Theyre going to eliminate most of the deductions, so those people in the top 10 probably wont see a tax cut. Neil that could be a wash. You broke a lot of news there, not the least of which was hatchs comments early on about the possibility that, you know, the 15 corporate rate looks probably not and maybe 20, 25 . I mean, that seems to be where he sees things going. Reporter yes. Neil that could be startling. Reporter yeah. And we actually heard from the administration that that 15 rate, that was the opening of the negotiation. Neil right. Reporter whats important here is theyve been negotiating this. Weve all been paying attention to health care and the other issues, but this has been going on behind the scenes. Neil thats a little higher than most people were counting on though, thank you very much. Meanwhile, keeping track of a Supreme Court saga that could be a win for the president , at least the decision on the travel ban that the president interprets as a clear victory saying todays ruling allows me to use an important tool to protect our nations homeland. If this is proof the Supreme Court is looking at a ban here, it is going to be done in stages and something that will protect those who want to be protected in this country. But if youre a foreigner, you have interest in this country, connections in this country, youll be safe. All right, in the meantime, i want to get a handle, carrie, from your Vantage Point what the administration got here that two Appellate Courts had denied it. What they got is a court that actually looked at some of the legal standards rather than jumping to conclusions based on politics. It looks like a unanimous court, no one objected to this granting of a stay here today or getting rid of the stay here today that said this order can actually be taken out, in effect, except with the rare exception of people who have a connection to the United States. So there are people who say students admitted to the university of hawaii or family members of u. S. Citizens or residents who are coming to visit them. For those people there is someone, theres a citizen who can be concerned about this and there may be exceptions for those. But for the vast majority of people who have no connections to america, yes, they are able to have a halt, a temporary pause to they can look into the safety concerns and the real National Security concerns here. Neil right. Thats a big win, especially when it looks like it was unanimous. There were federal courts who were rejected the governments position out of hand that really got a big knockdown today. Neil all right. Its a 90 vote in this regard, until they hear these arguments in october, presumably rule shortly thereafter. But does the unanimous nature of this portend good things for the president . He certainly seemed to hint that in his response to this today. Well, its definitely very encouraging. And, again, i think the questions in this case respect just questions you can jump to a conclusion on. The courts going to have to grapple with them, but we need justices. It would be good to have judges in the lower courts as well who are going to look at the real legal questions and grapple with those and not just jump to, oh, the president said things i dont like on the campaign trail, thats it. He must be this horrible bigot. Its not how our process works, and thats what i hope the Supreme Court will afford the president in the fall. Neil all right, normally courts dont like to encroach on a president and his executive powers. They might just say this is something within his duty as commander in chief, or will they get more nuanced than that . What do you think . Well, the president does have broad powers as commander in chief in events of our National Security to do these kinds of things as the court mentioned in its order today. You know, there are those exceptions where theres an american thats involved, a family member, etc. , who might be able to make claims. For the vast majority of these people, this is, as the court said, really the center of the president s authority to be able to protect our nation. So the president does have a lot of leeway here. And, you know, there are going to be a lot of arguments. Its going to be a serious case, but theyre going to have to come up with something other than we dont like the president s Campaign Rhetoric if they want to win at this point. Neil carrie severino, a lot more on this and the implications later on in the show. In the meantime, after a string of runoff losses, democrats might want to reassess something. Not about what their doing, but what theyre saying about russia. After this. Muck flushing. Neil all right, maybe bill clinton was right when he used that famous be line, that dog dont hunt, when it comes to democrats continually talking about russia and a connection to the Trump Campaign and their own election loss. Signs right now the democrats are reassessing after all of these special elections since the general rex, that maybe it is time to rethink that strategy. Former cia analyst, fred feist, former republican congresswoman nan hay worth from the fine state of new york. Congresswoman, to you first on this. Were told that some democrats are concerned they went too far or that this issue isnt registering or resonating. What do you think . Well, its not registering, neil, and the reason is primarily because the democrats decades and certainly, you know, eight years before the 2016 election, their policies have failed the American People. Theyve placed enormous burdens on us. People have lost are jobs, theyve lost livelihoods, their cost of living has skyrocketed, their health care. To the try to get them somehow to imagine that President Trump had something to do with russia and sabotaged the election or tried to obstruct an investigation when ono one has come up with anything to verify that or validate that and democratic officials from past administrations who are not friends of the president and james comey himself said, look, we dont have anything, theres no proof, no wonder the democrats are those who are in districts where their constituents are actually interested in solutions are saying, hey, you know what . Lets get off the topic of russia. Theyre right. But they have to get on the topic of how they help the president pass an agenda that will work for the American People. Neil andrew, what do you think of maybe theyre beating a dead horse, go on to other issues, you know, that that might work better for them . What do you think . Neil, i dont think this is a onesizefitsall approach. On russia i think we should let the Trump Administration dig their own grave, because thats whats happening. Theres a special prosecutor whos widely respected, who is really looking into this. And at the end of the day, whenever it takes a year, two years, were going to find out the truth neil so no one say anything in the meantime, republicans or democrats. Im not saying no one should say anything, but democrats need to focus on issues, because unlike what the congresswoman just said, we do help real lives neil i think thats what shes saying, get to those issues im not going to disagree with that. I think we should talk about the real issues that matter, about how we really make sure premiums go down for people who have health care, how we dont take people off their insurance who have it, how we make sure they get higher wages neil dont talk about hundreds of thousands of people dying as a result of it. Thats a whole other can of worms, right . Thats another can of worms, but our policies represent the values neil all right. Well, we can debate that. Fred, what do you make of the fact that, obviously, its in republicans interests to say, all right, let this russia thing go. But, i mean, on Security Issues wouldnt it be important for republicans to let go of it or the president no longer tweebt about it or tweet about it and just let whatevers going on with these investigations go on and move on to these other issues . Neil, i think youre right. I think it would be better for the republicans to move on too. I think all three guests agree that the democrats need to focus on other things, and the reason the American People dont think theres anything to the collusion story or the idea that russia affected the outcome of the election. Theres no evidence of that. But i think democrats are concerned that these can investigations are moving into dangerous areas theyd rather not talk about such as barack obama being informed of possible efforts by the russians to affect the election, but he did nothing about it neil in other words, be careful what you wish for, you might get both sides caught up in something they dont want. And also the attorney general who apparently obstructed investigations of Hillary Clinton and, frankly, if that hadnt happened, she may not have been on the ballot. These things are being dredged up because the democrats are insisting on these russia investigations. That is not what im saying at all, neil. I just want to make clear. Neil okay. I thought it was im can kidding. [laughter] with all this breaking news, i do appreciate you taking the time. Meantime, nasdaq is on pace for its longest monthly winning streak weve seen in almost 22 years. I wasnt even born. [laughter] isnt that wild . 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Reporter tech is not so cruel, actually among the best performers for this year, 2017. And facebook the one tech stock that made it back from the tech wreck in early june. Take a look at where it is now. 154. 57. Today hit an alltime high. Was looking at a record close again. And since its ipo in 2012, up 365 . But the tech wreck, the twoday selloff it was a friday and a monday from june 9th to june 12th where the analysts basically said the group for the most part had gotten ahead of itself really hit the whole group pretty hard. We saw names such as netflix down almost 9 , apple down over 6 . The whole group sold off. Only facebook has managed to recover those losses, and even though the close of 154. 71, so hovering around those levels. But the idea here is for the long term that they will recover those levels. And last but not least as we talk about tech, and tech is really a favorite. It is in just about everybodys perform in some way, shape or form. But take a look at the nasdaq for the month of june. An up arrow for this month, up about 1 . All the indices are higher, the russells the best of the bunch, but the techheavy nasdaq up eight months in a row. Goes way back to 1995, about 22, almost 22 years that weve seen eight straight months of gains for the nasdaq. So lets see, by the end of the month of june if we can clock in another win. Back to you. Neil nicole, thank you very much. Meanwhile, is branching out into tv sustainable for facebook . Its looking to do just that. It would follow, as weve been saying, the likes of apple, of course, doing so, netflix. To market watcher josh gillensky. I guess the question is whether they can make up for that with something new and different. What do you think . Yeah. I think it may be a little too late if you look at a whats happening with ten cent and we chat with 800 million users in china. Theyre sort of riding an alreadybroken wave. Im a little worried about that. I think they need to be doing Something Big and bold. I think Mark Zuckerberg should focus less on becoming the president of the world and more focus on something cool like holograms and using oculus riff in a really cool way. I think a what i want the see is hologram friends. I think the strategy is a perfect outgrowth of the place for friends, if you think about it. What do you want to do with your friends . You want to binge watch. But netflix is already doing it, amazons already doing it. Theyre facing stiff competition from snapchat as well. I mean, my nephew was just over the other day for a graduation party, and he was showing me where his friend was on an exact block in ocean city, maryland. It was crazy. And, you know, facebook is big in the boomer set, in the genx set. Im on facebook, but my nephews and nieces are on snapchat. Facebook is kind of dying. Yes, it has two billion users, but i think they need to stay out of politics, focus on big and bold and build a Transformational Technology with their oculus riff software. Neil thats interesting. You know, one thing i also wonder about, josh, is these companies that are going well beyond what was thought to be their niche, amazon comes to mind. We saw it as a retail site that has now grown to include the big grocer whole foods and, obviously, now expanding into clothing you try on and then return the items that you dont want, etc. I wonder in the case of facebook, too, trying things it hasnt done before. Theres nothing wrong with that, but do you risk losing your brand identity in the process . In other words, it should be a spoke and wheel type of thing. What do you think . I think thats a great point. Look at what happened to myspace. Nobody uses it anymore. I think facebook could go the way of myspace. I do think i commend them for at least trying something new so that they dont go the way of myspace, but i want to see them use oculus riff to create holograms. Imagine doing a hologram interviews, neil. Imagine holographic visits with your grandma that you cant go to see. I want my iphone to be used as a place for friends where theyre actually there. I want to see them do Something Big and bold. But, yes, i think losing your core we ten competency, i think everybodys trying to be the next am sorntion monetize their two billion users. Obviously, theyve doubled users over the last five years which is certainly impressive. Neil right. From a billion in 2012 to about two billion today. Thats nothing to sneeze at. Im not necessarily a bear on facebook, but i want to see them do some more things with oculus riff. I think monetizing videos already been done with netflix, already been done with neil you dont want to i assume its not a transformer character youre referring to, but a technology. Its that technology where you wear the goggles and you appear. Is so you would be, like, right there. And your 3d image would appear. I think thats the future. Neil really . So that youre communing with not just a screen neil but youre all wearing those big, dumb glasses, right . Or headsets, whatever. Yeah. That is i think google glass kind of failed on that front. Neil you know, youre absolutely right about that. Josh, thank you very, very much. Ill make note of that. You could be on to something here. All right, in the meantime, Charlie Gasparino with a reaction that is already getting quite a few tweets and emails on both sides. My asking Katrina Pierson whether it is wise to go after a senator simply because he doesnt like the republican Health Care Measure thats been cooked up in the senate. 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Neil asylums like youre picking and seems like youre picking and choosing who you want to move forward, and it looks like this guys fair game. Any person that is not supporting putting America First in their policies and this is Something Like obamacare, something that has hurt all americans neil hes saying what youve come up with Something Like obamacare, and he doesnt want a part of it. Look, im hardly an apologist for the guy, im just saying what hes trying to do is something these other guys are trying to do, but for some reason he becomes the target and these other guys not. All right, the subject of discussion with Katrina Pierson, former trump surrogate, is senator dean heller, Nevada Republican. Remember, he won his seat by less than one percentage point back in 2012, and hes going to be up for reelection the year, and hes facing an uphill battle. He is among five republican senators not keen on this latest Senate Version of a health care rework, but hes the only one being targeted for primary challenge. To Charlie Gasparino on where this is going. I think, you know, you keep your party together. Yeah. I mean, the argument that the trump people are making on this is stupid, and here is why. Lets take out a republican, lets weaken him, okay . Maybe get another, i guess they want a different can republican in there. Neil right. But who knows where thats going. Usually incumbency is pretty good, by the way. Voters know you neil usually a primary challenge is beaten by the challenger. Lets look at the math. Lets just say republicans lose the house and they lose the senate because donald trump went out there and beat this guy up. Guess whats coming for donald trump . Impeachment. And then it becomes a very real possibility because you have the senate switching sides, they have to vote on the impeachment proceeding that the house could serve up. Now, it could be fake news, all this russian stuff, but, you know, remember what they got president clinton on, and they basically got him on something on a blue dress. It was a trivial matter, if you think about neil but thats more likely with the house or senate in a different partys hands absolutely. Neil my only point was, all right, you want to go after this guy because hes and many nevada nones are saying you dont understand, really heller is a republican in name only. Still, he won narrowly and got that seat for the republicans. He loses it, and you want to go after the ted cruzs, the mike lees, the rand pauls. And if thats going to be a rationale that they are denying a senate plan that even a number of republican senators arent keen on, then whats your wasnt rob portman out this weekend saying he cant vote on it . Neil right, right. Youre up to ten who are either against it or have serious doubts about it. So donald trump is going to declare neil hes not. To be fair, she said shes not speaking for donald trump. Who are these ads coming out from . Neil its a group that is now looking to go after this guy. And you dont think they have his blessing in. Neil i dont know. I think it is selfdefeating. My gut is they do. Donald trump and Katrina Pierson should spend more time on the hill trying to persuade people to the vote for this neil thats what a lot of people have said, charlie, about this measure. Whatever your views, that they havent reworked it enough or differentiated enough from obamacare, that its a lighter government version right. Neil and maybe in a substantive way, but still not all that different. Listen, im not saying im for it me, i would vote for this as one step towards unraveling obamacare. But im just telling you, the problem with this bill is its attacked from the left and the right, and you really dont have the prosecute making a real, good the president making a real, good case for it. I hear a lot of threats neil are you hearing hes going to be more actively involved in this . I do not hear that. If you think about what hes been tweeting about, maybe we just let obamacare crash and burn and replace it. Ive not heard that hes going to take an active role in this. I hope he takes an active role in this and tax reform. You know, heres the thing, our viewers should put this listen, its one thing to be talking trump here, its another thing to be talking trump throughout the world. Donald trump has a 38 approval rating. He does not have the stroke to be telling senators what to do. I mean, he doesnt. If they dont want to vote for this, hes got to either make a case i should say he has the stroke to make the case, he doesnt have the stroke to threaten them into doing something. Neil yeah. And i think this guy is making a case that these other republicans are that we can make this better. Which they can. Its a chorus. Neil right. Everybodys in their own little world here. Remember, when you have a 38 approval rating, i dont care, you think those are fake polls, fake news neil right. Guess what . Youre not a popular person. You dont have the ability to demand neil or to go after your own its crazy. Neil let me ask you, you broke this news about joe biden at this event. Right. He was talking about why he didnt run, this was in may, why he didnt run for president. He talked about how he, you know, earlier that day he talked about how Hillary Clinton, he was a better candidate than Hillary Clinton. He actually made news saying that. This was at a private event where everybodys supposed to keep their mouth shut, but, of course, i find out by these things. Notably, this was put on by anthony scaramucci, this is what happens when you dont invite me. I find out about it anyway. Hes at the dinner, they bring up the question of why he didnt run again. He gets kind of emotional talking about his son, i didnt do it because of my son, and i want to stop there, he says. Im getting emotional now. Bill ackman, an investor known for his own big mouth sometimes like joe biden similar guys but different industries, Big Hedge Fund guy said that has never stopped you before. Neil whoa. He turns around as the room gets quiet, turns to someone next to you and says who is this ahole . Only he didnt neil biden says that. Yeah. And then he turns to ackman and dresses him down. We have the full story on fox business. Now, why did we write this now . One of the reasons is one of bidens people who told me about this basically say if you think the guy is too slow and not willing to go toe to toe with donald trump, think again. Heres what happened. This guy will take on anybody that messes with him, and hes the type of guy that can go forcefully against donald trump. Neil and ackman was use making the charge that he was using the death of his son i think ackman was making a dopey comment, just being a jerk. Neil all right. If thats what or just making a flip comment. I shouldnt say he was a jerk, i dont know. But im just telling you thats not something you say during neil especially in a venue like that. All right, thank you very much. Well have more after this including the latest on some of these big movie numbers were getting. Theyre doing okay internationally, fear not. Well explain. Neil 124 million in china alone. You dont need to push quality here. You just need to push special effects and a lot of it across the globe. This movie the latest example of that. Do not forget dr. Ben carson on special coast to coast tomorrow on fox business network. Trish regan right now. Hey, trish. Trish laughing at the transformers images. You didnt see that, did you . Neil no. Trish big win for President Trump as Supreme Court hands the president a victory by reinstating key parts of the president s executive order restricting travel into the United States from six middleeastern nations. Im trish regan. Welcome to the intelligence report. Supreme Court Ruling Upholds key parts of the travel ban for reasons of National Security. Making important exception for anyone with a quote, bonafide relationship with a person or entity the United States. Well talk about what that means. Meantime President Trump issuing a statement to applaud the decision. I quote, my number one responsibility as commander in chief is to keep American People