Place here. And, look im all for body cameras as long as its happening on the local level and as long as the Police Departments are okay with it. This isnt something that should be federally manded. Onethird of Police Departments across the country already have body cameras. I think we let this happen at the local level. Contrary to what people in washington, d. C. Think this one size fits all governing doesnt work. Look every city across the countrys different. Every cops beat is different. I think we need a way, the cost benefit analysis, look at the numbers the facts and make a conscientious decision instead of a kneejerk reaction. Wayne . It may help Law Enforcement officers as well. Theyre under a lot of microscopes and scrutiny lately. Well of course it helps, eric. Anytime you get at the truth it helps. If the camera is the truth and thats what we see of course that helps. The other thing i think it avoids is all the problems that occur after these things. When somebody sues the Police Department or the Police Department is under fire, it clears all of that up. When you have a camera there, everybody can see it they see what happened you know what it is, you trust your eyes. You know, who you going to trust, my lying eyes . No. Youll trust what you see on the screen. I want to get to my real libertarian, not my fake one. So hold on one second juan. John a violation of Fourth Amendment rights to have a camera on every cop . I dont think so, eric, but that should be up to the cop and the Law Enforcement agencies themselves. The politicians should set the goals. But the generals, you know, in this case the police chiefs, they should set the policies. Theres 18,000 local Law Enforcement agencies in this country. Theyre all different types of communities. And i worry that this topdown approach like obamacare basically just wants to turn Law Enforcement into coinoperated machines that accept their orders from washington on high. What about the citizens . Youve walking arnold, theres a cop walking the beat, the street. A lot of libertarians say hes violating having every cop with a camera is a violation of my privacy rights if im doing nothing wrong. Im an objectiveist not a libertarian. In chicago theres cameras on almost every Street Corner watching people. I dont think from my perspective im not a lawyer that that would be a violation of anyones rights. Ive been out there saying i think this is greatest idea. I think every cop for the sake of cops should have a body cam so people stop pointing the finger at them claiming brutality. What say you . Well, i think that the key here is that its proven. Its proven to be the case. I think its 87 fewer citizen complaints, almost 60 fewer instances of use of force. So it does make a difference. But to lisas point the federal government is simply encouraging by offering grant money. Theyre not compelling anybody. Its up to local government, to the department to make that decision. I do think that there is a matter of liberty involved because, you know the tape doesnt always show everything. The tape starts at some point ends at some point. Something may have happened before. In the case in South Carolina there was separate dashboard camera. It showed a lot before. We see the video of the Police Officer shooting the man. So you have to be careful with tape. It doesnt always tell the whole story. Heres the thing lisa, let me just do this. It sound like everyones in agreement that the body cams are a good idea. Let me bring it arnold. Lisa, 800 to 1,200 per camera is what Police Departments are spending around the country. Where is the money coming from . This is why i think we need to have a bigger debate here. It should be part of a broader conversation. This should. A knee jerk emotional reaction to obviously what is a horrific tragedy. But look the statistics that juan quoted come from one city. The point i am making is the fact that every city is different. Every cops need is different. Every cop has a different beat. So there isnt this one size fits all cureall approach to this problem here. There is a huge financial cost as well. Were talking about 900,000 cops across the country 900 at least for these different devices. In addition youre talking about the cost of storage as well which is around 45,000. And also potentially hiring new people. Gentlemen, wayne so president obama offered somewhere around 75 million over the next three years as a 50 match. In other words hell put up 25 a year for the next three years each then Police Departments around the country will put up the same amount of money to get the matching dollars. That becomes a federal program. Are you okay with that . Yes ill tell you why, eric. In spite of the cost of whatever it is, all you have to do is have one lawsuit that accuses the police of overreacting and doing Something Like that. And you wipe out millions of dollars. So the cost of putting a body camera on somebody is minuscule compared to what the risks are on the other side. Go ahead john. Police officers should be insulted. Theres this implication of all this that without a body camera every Police Officer would be out committing these horrendous crimes. If you really wanted to solve crime especially at a local level, you should decriminalize drugs, it doesnt cost a penny, and it would reduce so much of the Violent Crime local Law Enforcement faces every day. I put it on twitter and asked specifically Law Enforcement to weigh in. I would say close to 100 , maybe a handful here and there were against it, but almost 100 of Law Enforcement officers said put a body cam were in the day and age where people are pointing the finger so dramatically at cops the al sharptons of the world saying every time a cop pulls over black kid hes going to violate his civil rights. So i think in that case if you get such strong support from the Law Enforcement community, eric, lets go for it. I will say to my mind from a citizens point of view and from a black citizens point of view, i think there is an advantage to it. Im very sensitive and curious that jonathan didnt have any civil libertarian issues with it because i think that some people in terms of the local communities do question whether or not you want to be on camera every time a Police Officer is looking at you. Ill tell you what, though, i bet bad actors act less bad when they know theyre being filmed every second of i also think this conversation also needs to happen surrounding facts and data and making sure that it financially makes sense as well instead of, you know, my problem is that i feel like this is stemming from a broader, you know anticop sentiment that is permeating throughout the media right now and with people. I think quite frankly thats sad. So i want to make sure this is happening from the correct what about but what about the dead person . Right. In this debate, this debate is sparked because a bad cop in South Carolina, you know, allegedly murdered a victim over a traffic over a broken taillight. After the mike brown incident. Got to leave it there guys. Hashtag topic today. Are we down to a bush versus clinton for president . Towards the end of cahin in, ill show you how thats worked having a president bush or president clinton 20 of the last 26 years. Tweet your thoughts and use your conservative favorite to join the conversation. Coming up tasty news for taxpayers. States looking to stamp out food stamp fraud and abuse. Could be waging war on welfare, fraud, and abuse. Lawmakers in kansas approving a bill that limits what folks can buy with taxpayer cash. Tattoos, massages, cruises, you name it, basically all nonfood items are offlimits. It also limits atm cash withdrawals to 25 a day. Lisa, should all states do this . 100 without a doubt. Taxpayers shouldnt be on the hook for welfare recipients spending money on spa treatments and, you know getting tattoos. We should be giving people a hand up not a handout. But thats not what weve been doing. What we need is a broader assessment of welfare as a whole. Since lyndon b. Johnson launched the war on poverty 15 years ago, we spent 16 trillion building an entitlement nation. We have over 200 state and federal meanstested programs spending about 1 trillion a year. But heres the kicker. The poverty rate hasnt changed. The poverty rate is the highest its been in decades actually inching up. And every time you give something, a handout things can get better and none of the money comes back. Do you not like this program . I dont like this program. Ill tell you why. Its just another imposition of putting a Regulatory Group together whos going to regulate what theyre already trying to regulate. What they need to do is cut the program to be a limited in time, limited in the amounts of money and say thats it and enforce the program. You dont need another group of federal regulators to come in and tell you what you can eat and cant eat. Hey you have so much for this it says, by the way, starts with the word temporary. So temporary is what it should be. They always start as temporary. I mean, the whole war on poverty, welfare started as a temporary assistance. There is no fix for this. Theres no fix for welfare besides getting rid of it. How many times have we heard we have to stamp out waste fraud and abuse . I tell you these laws no booze, no cigarette laws are even worse because to waynes point now you have government monitoring what you can buy, whats good or bad and what does that do to selfesteem of anyone receiving these socalled benefits . It doesnt teach you how to think. Doesnt teach you to get out there and get a job and help yourself. Juan, quick thought. I want to bring up another topic. Go ahead. As i want to say as the true libertarian on this panel im so glad to hear my fellow panelists say we should not be telling people who are poor how to spend the money. If you want as a government to be sensitive to be a caring conservative, give the money to the poor and let them go. I cant oversee you have to money. Take the money and give money. That wouldnt be libertarian. We need substantial reform. Its not a matter of give if you have starving children. Thats a matter of maintaining society for Good Business so we can do business. One step further. Not massages. Theres something our friend the surfer dude wont like. A gop lawmaker in missouri has introduced the surf and turf bill if passed making it illegal for food stamp recipients to use their benefits to purchase seafood, steak cookies, Energy Drinks soft drinks chips offlimits. Lisa, should the government be telling people what they can and cant eat with the money theyre given . We should be reforming welfare as a whole. I think we need to take it paul ryan is a member of congress whos introduced at least a plan to kind of roll in the federal governments approach and empower states to spend certain money and to really kind of, you know, slow down some of these programs. We need reform. And while were at it, lets stamp out the waste fraud and abuse because god knows ive never heard that before. The only way to reform sit to get rid of it. If you want to help someone who you think is deserving help them. Its immoral to take from one group and goich another and welfares disaster has been the net result. Youre shaking your head. We just went through a terrible recession. Right now its about 500 a month for a family of four about 14 a day. You know what you have to understand is we could be living in brazil up on, you know mountaintops going to work in helicopters and Downtown Office towers if we had mass craziness in the street, that kind of power. Its in our best interest to take care. How many tens of thousands would you give away during the Great Recession . Hundreds of thousands to help people. I gave lot if youre talking about personal charity. The bottom line is its not working. You should continue to do that. The splim these programs arent working. We would agree, and the other bottom line is they never scale them back when things get better. Exactly. Last thought from you, wayne. Is it okay for people to use food stamp money for steaks . Its crazy. All of that regulation of saying where you can spend the money and how you can eat and all of that is just more gobbled ddygookgobbledygook. Say i dont care what you spend it on, but limit the money, thats all you get. 46 million people. Out of control. Coming up president obama bashing christians but and now a new battle underway for the alamo. Join us. Sometimes when i have listened to left and loving expressions by christians, i get concerned. President obama under fire for criticizing christianity again, this time at an easter prayer breakfast. Here is what he said at the National Prayer breakfast. And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place remember that during the crusades and inquisition people committed terrible deeds in the name of christ. Shouldnt the president be less concerned with christianity and more concerned with radical islam . Islam is moral. Its peaceful and righteous. Its those of us here in the west, we have overstepped our bounds and this is multiculturalism at large. The whole idea here is that here in the west were not so special. Weve all committed evil. Christian americans jihadists were all the same. Thats that antiamerican exceptionalism that i think seethes from the president day and night. It really burned me. When i heard him say that on the holiest day of the year for christians, it drove me crazy. But yet hes walking on egg shells around islamics. Why the anger . I dont think its anger. Hes a christian. I think the issue here is that he wants to avoid making it out that the United States is engaged in a religious war against islam. For me and you, i think there is a real importance for to hear somebody say you know what . The other day in kenya, 150 young people were killed because they were christian. We see christians killed in libya because they were singled out as christian. But these muslim terrorists and vigilantes are killing more muslims than christians. But the president wont say that. If he used the same terms for christians and used the same examples for muslims, maybe i would have a little respect for where he is on this. What about using the same words with radical islam . Well, i dont think this is about christians and muslims. I think this is about freedom of peach and about freedom of religion. If you want to pray to a tree its your business. It has nothing to do with what the public or government speebs. Freedom of religion is in our constitution and we should believe in whatever we want to believe in and not necessarily go and impose it on anybody else. I think a juxtaposition between president obama attacking christianity but refusing to condemn the individuals that are committing genocide against christians is jarring to me. You know, part of any individuals job is to judge, to make that judgment. Its almost as if the president is saying israel, they overreact but islam is rooted in morality and justice and thats the sense you get from the president. Were going to have to leave it right there. Coming up, Hillary Clinton is expected to hop in and jeb is at your school or where you work is suffering from Crohns Disease or ulcerative colitis. Theyre dealing with excruciating pain and days when they cant even get out of bed. Chances are someone you know has crohns or colitis. Someone like me. Im Amy Brenneman and i support the crohns and Colitis Foundation of america. Ccfa was created to help millions of us cope and to find cures. Help someone you know get back on their feet and back to their lives. Visit ccfa. Org today to learn more. I want to say thanks to our cast and crew for joining us. We had a couple of birthdays this week. You guys can finally drink a beer now, youre old enough now. Congratulations. You can head over to fox news. Com and see wayne and johnathans stock picks. Whatever. Anyway. Time to wake up america. The office of the president of the United States is supposed to go to the man or woman who generates the most ideas to make america better. Its supposed to go to the man or woman who has the leadership skills to stimulate the economic power house we have here. Its not supposed to go to the most inevitable or the one whose dad brother or husband was president. Hillary clinton set to announce her president ial run this weekend and jeb bush is sure to announce after. Are we so devoid of men and women with values and leadership skills that were down to a bush versus clinton choice for the next . Wake up america, the last 25 years or so have been brew tan on americas standing in the world. We were number one and now wu rank number 12. Now, we create jobs and service the United States is now ranked 14th in education. Our kids lag countries like uk and russia. We have had a bush or a clinton in the white house for 20 of the last 26 years. Do we need more of the same . I will vote for the most conservative candidate for president but i hope my choice doesnt come down to a bush or a clinton. Producer . A consensus. The willis report is next hello, everybody. Im gerri willis, and this is the willis report the show where consumers are our business. The feds take on United Airlines for a series of safety violations. Well examine how serious these problems are. And if its safe to fly the friendly skies . Tornadoes rip through the midwest. Take a look at the barn over there. Gerri more Severe Weather is forecast as the storms move east. Also Hillary Clinton is about to announce her candidacy for president. Sources say Hillary Clinton will announce her candidacy for president sunday. Most likely via social media. Gerri will he run for the center or wage a far Left Campaign as some supporters want . We have our eye