And donald trump would want rates to be raised next week. Because if you postpone until december, hes going to have to deal with that if he becomes the president during his first two to three years, which is going to be tough for whoever becomes president. You look historically, whenever you have times of conflict, specifically war, the incumbent party is almost always reelected. But in times of economic distress, look at really bad times like herbert hoover, st stagflation under jimmy carter, you always have the incumbent party ousted in that case. And i think right now if you see we saw rosengren, the fed chief from boston came out just a week ago and talked about just a quarter point rate hike and the market was down 400 points. Now, a quarter point is not that big a deal. Its what their language is going forward. Theyre talking about raising Interest Rates over 2 by 2018. That is going to be tough for the next president to deal with. If they do it next week, that helps donald trump. Gary b. , rate hike would be good or bad for trump . I agree fully with john. I think hes made some very astute points. I want to approach it from a different perspective, kind of a Macro Economic perspective. You know, i think the economy is really treading water right now at best. We have such slow growth. So really the only thing that people see as positive, and it has been, has been the stock market. Why has it been positive though . Weve had these ultralow Interest Rates seeming for an interminable amount of time, if the fed raises rates i actually think theyll probably hold off, but if they do, i think johns right. The market goes down. Because thats the only thing propping up the market right now. The market goes down and people say, my gosh, we dont have jobs, we arent earning anything, we cant afford homes. And now we see our 401 k s shrink. I think trump is a shoein then for the presidency. And, katie, people often make up their minds way in advance on how they feel about the economy. And this has been the worst recovery since at least 1949. Well, right. And you couple that with Hillary Clinton essentially running to be president obamas third term and shes going to have a major problem if the fed decides to hike rates. Donald trump is already trusted on the issue of the economy. If rates are hiked, well have a somewhat of a panic, not only on wall street but as already mentioned on main street in terms of those people who have 401 k s. And if it happens next week, its going to happen during president obamas tenure, which has been a terrible record when it comes to the economy. And jess, a lot of people think the Federal Reserve wont hike rates next week because they dont want to hurt Hillary Clinton. Yeah, ive heard that. Thats the theory donald trump has been floating when actually we know that the membership of the committee its five political appointees and seven who are not political appointees. Hes actually gone back and forth. First he said it was a political decision then said janet yellen is great and then back to a political decision. But i want to agree with the panel for part of this and say i think it would hurt Hillary Clinton if we have volatility. But i would like to add this week we just found out that Median Household Income went up 2,800 from last year, which i think is the biggest spike weve ever seen and poverty rate dropped by over a percentage point. These are important indicators adding onto that the 15 million private sector jobs weve gotten. You know the rest im going to stay there. Im going to have to defend the obama economy a little bit there and also say all the polls indicate that wall street and the Business Community trust Hillary Clinton to be the steward, not donald trump. But donald trump polls better on his handling of the economy. She was up five in a recent poll on that. Fox news im citing home poll. All right. Ill point out retail sales were down for the First Time Since earlier this year last month. Mitt romney polled well on the economy, i dont think thats going to lock in any election. If the market doesnt tank, then raising rates before the election, which i think is going to happen even though its an unusual call at this point, would actually help hillary because the perception, wrong or its totally a Conspiracy Theory that the fed is supporting the economy, that its really a recession or a depression if we didnt have 0 rate its all going to come crashing down. You make that myth go away by raising rates a little bit. It shows you could go off very good Economic News we just got, thats the best news they got at the fed in about a year or two. The market might not tank this time because of that. And all of a sudden the fed isnt supporting the clinton administration, which is the perception even though its not true. And i think it actually helps us were finally out of the 07 crash. We dont need to have 0 rate, i say thats the call to make. But Interest Rates if you look back historically, what Interest Rates do and what the Federal Reserve does, john, does impact the election. Lets not forget the double digit Interest Rate on the 10year treasury in 1980. And the status of the economy then certainly helped ronald reagan. Yeah, it certainly helped. And i think you would say that the fed right now has really been able to help this administration. I dont know if theyre political in that or theyre just trying to help the administration because the economy is suffering so bad. And the economy is not doing well. Look, its not in a recession. Its not in oppression, but its not doing well, but we have 121 million fulltime jobs right now. Thats almost exactly what we had in 2008 before the recession. The jobs that have been added have been parttime jobs that have come online. Jobs that have been replaced with jobs that are not quite as good jobs. Household incomes are down since 2000, when you talk about poverty, give me a freaking break. Its gone from 17 million in 2000 to 47 million right now with food stamps, that goes one for one in correlation from poverty to food stamps. The one thing that has benefitted as gary b. Says is the stock market. And its because of comparisons. You have 80 of government obligated debt from germany and japan that are negative Interest Rates. America is the only place to put that money. And if you have the fed raising rates right now, its going to hurt the one thing that is booming and that is the stock market. You do it next week, thats going to benefit donald trump. Katie, you raised this issue about how people feel about the economy going back almost eight years. But i look back at the recession when george bush 41 was running for reelection. That recession ended in early 1991. And it still hurt him, even though the recession had been over about a year and a half. Yeah, look, economic turmoil, which i think the American People have clearly said has been a part of the decision theyre going to make in november certainly something that we have to take into account here. When you poll on a number of issues despite maybe the news of the day, outside the economy, the number one thing that people vote on is the economy every single time. And so if they see that their 401 k is losing money next week, if they see instability in the marketplace, theyre going to go with the person who they feel has the best business interests and best decisions when it comes to getting away from the obama economy and moving forward with a different solution outside of government intrusion. Jess, youre shaking your head. No, no, it was a little bit of agreement. It was like quasi bobble head. I kind of agree. Its been the strange thing the last few months obama has a high Approval Rating but still 70 say were on the wrong track and people say Economic Indicators whatever they might be they still dont feel secure, right, about their future . We have issues of people believing in the American Dream today, et cetera. I think part of that is a communication problem on the part of the administration. And its just on the ground things dont feel as good as maybe they do in the papers as it were. So i totally take that point. And i think thats something that Hillary Clinton really has to battle against. You know, because she has to celebrate accomplishments, but also say im going to do things a little bit differently because i know youre hurting. One final thing, gary b. , i want to point out, the Federal Reserve, members of the fed met with this liberal activist group called fed up in august, how about saying im sorry to all the favors going back the last eight years or more . How about saying sorry . So to the people who say the feds not political, well, they are political. Well, yeah, absolutely. Whether they say theyre independent or whether theyre not, theyre just like anyone else. They want to keep their jobs. And most of many of their jobs were under this current administration. Thats why i think theyre going to stand pat until after the election. As far as jessica saying that hillary wants to celebrate the accomplishments of the economy, id say what accomplishments . Almost every metric compared to when Obama Took Office is negative or down. There are no accomplishments in this economy. The only one they can point to is the stock market going up. And i clap for obama on that. Thats about to come down if Interest Rates go up. Final word. Thank you, gary. And thanks everybody. Cavuto on business about 20 minutes from now. Neil, what have you got . Donald trump looks like president taft. Weve got the skinny on all the unhealthy accusations on the campaign trail. Lets just say both sides need a healthy dose of reality. And its not just the candidates promising more spending, what a Lame Duck Congress is planning that will have you fuming. Well see you soon. Thanks, neil. We cant wait. But up here first, donald trump trying to woo working families, touting his new child care policy. But Hillary Clinton is slamming his proposal as half baked. So who has the best policy to work for [alarm beeping] the highly advanced audi a4. Poallergies . Reather. 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Donald trumps Voucher Program for inner cities, thats a way to help with racial equality in the United States also with education. Thats a huge help and something Hillary Clinton will not go as far because shes so beholden to the teachers union. Hillary clinton spends more, jessica, youre sure to like that. Well, i do love a good, you know, round of spending. Well, both of them have a way to pay for it. Yes, she will tax rich people more. That is a way to pay for something. But hes digging into unemployment benefits, which is something i know conservatives and liberals alike dont enjoy him doing, or anyone doing. So people are going to be getting a real fraction of their salary whereas hillarys plan which is 12 weeks versus his six weeks, youll get twothirds of your salary and paid out of taxes, as john mentioned right before me. But also like to add, yes, fathers arent going to get it but that also includes fathers in samesex marriages, which is an extremely disturbing aspect of this plan. Also, it only covers married mothers. This is not going to benefit single mothers, which is incredibly dangerous, i think. And for him to go out there and accuse Hillary Clinton, have not thought about these issues when shes been talking about them for 30plus years. Well, heres some of what the candidates plans contain. With trumps child care plan, its six weeks of paid maternity leave, Tax Deduction for child care expenses and dependent care savings accounts. You look at Hillary Clintons child care plan, 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave, a cap on child care costs at 10 family income, universal preschool and a lot more spending. Gary b. , what do you make of these two . You know, dagen, maybe nobody in this panel but certainly a lot of our viewers, remember when the Sears Catalog described items as good, better, best . You know what these two plans are . Horrible, awful, terrible. They both stink. Were having the wrong discussion. Were six weeks, 12 weeks, you know, cuts, fraud, tax the wealthy, theyre all idiotic because what both of these candidates bo and the pox on them is another Entitlement Program. Hillarys is budgeted to be 30 billion a year. Thats like what can you imagine medicare right now at 600 billion a year. Can you imagine what this child care thing is going to be like in ten years . This is going to be another Social Security medicaid medicare. Heres the problem, government has caused child care not to be affordable by having things like zoning, licensing, minimum wages. Once again if government got out of the way, we wouldnt even need to have this discussion. But again, horrible for both of them to force another Entitlement Program on the taxpayers of the u. S. Jonas. Look, there already are the whole tax code is full of stuff for kids. You literally get a tax break for being married, to have a nonworking spouse with children at home, youre in a whole lower bracket, disincentivize you to go out and work anyway. As far as should they even incentivize you to buy a home, to go to school, these things dont work anyway, they only raise the cost. But most importantly would be able to get more people to work, lower the Unemployment Rate. They have higher Unemployment Rate in europe and they dont grow the population very fast there either, which would be the other point of this keep the whole ponzi scheme going. It doesnt work in europe, why would it work here . Katie, the point is to get votes. If you dont have a plan, then you hate children. Right. Its not going to matter if either of these plans actually get through congress, which neither of them will by the way. This was about donald trump looking at the map and going, okay, i really need votes from married women. I really need votes from single women. Hillary clinton is beating me on both of those issues. And a really good way to do that is present a plan i actually dont think is going to work. And to the point of whether each plan is better than the other, theyre both terrible. I mean, the idea that government in the case of child care can make it more, quote, affordable, is ridiculous. Government doesnt make things more affordable. It makes them more expensive in every single case. We had the Affordable Care act, for example, the exact name of the legislation for obamacare, and yet weve seen the price of health care skyrocket as a result of that. So getting the government out of this and reforming the tax code to allow people to keep more of their money and spend it on what they want would be a better idea. Thank you, katie. And thanks everybody. Cashin in just over an hour from now, eric, what do you have coming up . Hi, dagen, president obama touting economic reports showing income growing and poverty rates falling, so we put numbers in perspective and debate which candidate has the best plan to get our economy booming again. Is it donald trump or is it Hillary Clinton . We debate, you decide. See you at 11 30. Thanks, eric. Well be watching. But up here first, just 51 days until the election and both parties pumping up their ground game. But some here are saying forget but some here are saying forget how many voters remember here at ally, nothing stops us from doing right by our customers. Whos with me . Im in. Im in. Im in. Im in. One, two, wait, wait. Wait wheres tina . Doing the hand thing . 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Com as the election heads into the final stretch, both campaigns upping their ground games and registering voters across the country. Now, new reports show the republicans gaining ground on democrats adding hundreds of thousands of voters in key states like florida, arizona, north carolina. But katie says voter enthusiasm counts more. Katie. Well, look, this is a bad combination for the Clinton Campaign when you have regist registered voters in addition to enthusiasm, that means they can get out and actually cast votes. So i think that republicans are beating democrats at their own game. This was a cycle. They have a 19 Enthusiasm Gap over democrats, and thats going to be a huge problem for them on election day. Jessica. I actually agree. I think obviously this was not a good week for the democrats. I would also add though that i think the ground game itself is going to be important. You know, clinton has i dont even know the percentage, but more offices in these key states. And there are going to be more volunteers out there to get people to the polls. But right now, you know, obviously donald trump has had a little momentum. John. This is like miller philmore against james buchanan. The two most unlikable candidates in president ial history. Out of 300 Million People we ended up with these two . This is almost next to impossible. Who cares to come out and vote against the other party. Ground game or enthusiasm, or both, gary b. . Well, if youre trump has it wrong. Trump wanted enthusiasm, but enthusiasm means if youre already registered, you vote. But the numbers dont support that. You have 55 million registered republicans, you have 72 million registered democrats. So if enthusiasm is the same on both sides, then the democrats are going to win. But we do have a poll we can show the trends. Of trump in terms of uncertainty of vote preference of donald trump versus and theyre registering more than certainly we expected. Final word. How much you hate the other candidate is going to drive the foot traffic this time around. You always have so much i want to give the final word to katie since you were so specific strangely. Yeah, theres obviously more registered democrats as a whole, but again, i want to repeat that republicans have a 19 Enthusiasm Gap. So if republicans can get their act together and learn how to put people on buses and get them to the polls, its going to be difficult for democrats to compete that way. But historically democrats have been better at organizing on the ground to get people there. So its a toss up. Thank you, katie. Thank you, jessica. Both of you for joining us. Coming up, the company known for taking you to new extremes could take your wallet to new highs. Next. What is success . Is it a professor who never stops being a student . Is it a caregiver determined to take care of her own . Or is it a lifetime of work that blazes the path to your passions . 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John, youre shaking your head. Final thought. I need a translator far fig thanks for joining us. Neil is now. So shes too tired, and hes too fat. There you go. That sums up the week. Hi everyone. Im neil cavuto. Fox on top of some over the top health accusations. First donald trump questioning Hillary Clintons stamina. I dont know, folks, you think hillary would be able to stand up here for an hour and do this . I dont know. I dont think so. Just saying. Anyway, clinton supporters questioning Donald Trumps weight. He complains about her health. What does he do . Hes 70 years old. Hes not slim and trim. He brags about eating fast food every day. So heres trump