When you get 60 with two people, that is landslide. When you have three people and you get practically 60 . In the other states you know we had five, and, we did unbelievable numbers, up to 66 . And its been amazing. We had rhode island and delaware and connecticut and maryland and pennsylvania. We did great. Pennsylvania had little thing if you win you get 17. I did get 7 00 teen. The rest you have to fight for. What is this . Take them out to dinner, im sure your lunch is here. They dont take them here. They take them to fancy restaurants and put them up in hotels. Perhaps take them on yachts to take them on a cruise. It is not the right system. We have system it is supposed to be democracy and its terrible. Fortunate we have great republican leader in pennsylvania. He is really fair guy and really something. There is also a moral clause. I heard this for a couple of years with the delegates in pennsylvania, if you win, there is a moral obligation that youre supposed to vote for the one who wins. Which sort of makes sense, right . You know, i refuse to say, in this room, because i say it outside and i get standing ovations. This is room i wont do it. It is a rigged system. It is a rigged system, okay . Okay, it is horrible, horrible, disgusts system. [applause] you know i see this Bernie Sanders, im not a fan of Bernie Sanders by the way. I see he wins a lot, wins a lot. Never had a chance of winning. He had streak he won 10 in row. Every time you watch pundits, yeah, its done, he is way behind. Because they have a thing called superdelegates. Ours is more sophisticated because you dont know how badly rigged it is. With superdelegate it is obvious. They hand her over a lot of superdelegates. And boy do we look forward to winning. If she is allowed to run. [cheers and applause] there is big question. I think she is being protected by democrats and she will be allowed to run and well see what happens. What weve done, weve really, we won new york with the 60, almost 62 of the vote. Which was unprecedented. Got almost 100 of the delegates or 95 delegates. We got almost all. [applause] next week we had the five and we won them all in landslides. And actually, lyin ted and i think we have couple of fans but lyin ted did not do too well in new york, folks. He is hovering around the 10 mark. You have to do better than if you will collect all the delegates on second ballot. How would you like to be in a position where in, were in cleveland, were having whole deal and its going fine. For some reason, dont worry about it, we get it. I think we have it easily but for some reason it goes to second ballot . Somebody on the second ballot because they wined and dined delegates who has five million less votes, because by time we finish, were scheduled to do very well in california. I guess youve seen that. Really well. [applause] really well. Last poll i saw im at 49 . Which is great. There is, 20s and a 19 or something. But were doing well. I wont even say it because you have to go out and work. Especially my people sitting in this section. They have to work. Why dont we pretend were tied, okay . That is a problem. Ive seen it. All my life i dealt with poll tush shuns. Somebody comes into my office. The best politicians come into my office. They say donald, how are you doing . Im tied. He always says im tied and he will win by 25 points. He has to motivate himself saying tied. Sometimes he says im losing donald but im going to win. But we have picked up so many votes over the last period of time. And in fact i was just watching the networks today. And they have a chart that i think it is already happened but, in the history of primaries, republican primaries ive gotten most votes in the history of the Republican Party. We havent even hit some of the other states. Ted did something, recordsetting, never happened before in the history of the politics. He has no path to victory. Its impossible for him to win with the votes. The only way he can possibly win is if things go terribly wrong and he goes through the backdoor and he bought all of these delegates. I will never use the word bribe. I would never use a word like bribe. If he bribes delegates. But i dont call bribe. Think if youre rnc, and reince is good man. Jim, is a good man. Did jim do a good job . Where is jim . [applause] he did such a great job. He called me, said, mr. Trump, would you do me a favor, would you take, maybe 10, 15 pictures . I said absolutely jim. Im coming through dirt and mud and under fences. You all walked through the lobby. I go under fences. Im coming through. Im looking at myself. Trying to get all the dust and everything off. The 20 people that he told me about turned out to be 6, 700 people . My handle. Shaking hands taking picture. Is. Thats why he is good leader. Good going. I hope they paid a lot of money, jim. [applause] in the history of the Republican Party there has never been anything like this. And then what ted did and yesterday in indiana which is incredible place with incredible people, bobby knight, the great bobby flyte knight endorsed me. How good is that he will be with me all sunday and monday. Were having a good time. He is winner. We need winners. Our country doesnt win anymore. We have to win. We have to win. But cruz did something ive never seen because he picked a vicepresident ial person, carly, he picked carly, and i like carly but you know, when she left she had no votes jim was she one or was she zero . But she had no votes. Maybe its a good move. Who knows. I will let you know in about a month, all right . I dont think so, but the worst move, was making a deal with kasich. So they make this deal. I get a call two days ago. From, a number of people. And we have to do a pr statement. 11 45 in the evening. Oh, mr. Trump, what happened . They merged. Who . Kasich and cruz. I said they did . Thats a good thing. It shows total weakness. It shows illegal collusion. You know in business you get put in jail. Politics you can do anything you want, right . I said, but it shows such inepttude and such weakness. Whats the deal . The deal is that cruz will take indiana and kasich, and now he is sitting there eating. You know he is eating. Doing a News Conference and piling pancakes into his mouth. I never saw anything like it. [laughter]. My son said, my little boy, baron, he said, daddy, thats disgusting. [laughter]. Never saw a man eat like that. I never seen a man eat while doing a News Conference. Did you ever see him doing a News Conference without eating . Ive been doing this for nine months. Im so honored. These two politicians been doing it sort of all their lives, right . Kasich approved nafta. Which by the way emptied out your state. I hate to tell you. Emptied out every state. But kasich and cruz fine with chinese money manipulation. He is fine with that. Cant let them do that devaluation of their money and currency absolutely killing not only this country, china, but many other place. Cant allow it. You want to know why he wants to allow it . Ask the donors, ask the special interests, ask the people. Believe me ive seen deals that are made and these deals are the politicians are very smart, you would be amazed but a lot of people ask me how come they do these things . Largely because of donors and special interests and im selffunding my campaign. That is a big, big difference. [applause] nobody is going to tell me what to do. But they formed this alliance and already like the next morning its formed. Everyone is talking. Big deal, they formed. They formed it to be a guy politician for nine months. Me. After it is formed it is all done. Kasich announces no, i want people in indiana to vote for me. That wasnt supposed to be the deal. They were supposed to vote for cruz here and oregon. Poll just came, im killing everybody in oregon. Im killing them. [applause] which is an amazing place. But in a couple of other places that is kasich. So theyre working the system. That is what i said, it is rigged right . Rigged. So theyre working the system. About 10 hours goes by. Kasich announces essentially he is not doing the deal. Kasich says there is no deal. How will they deal with china . How are they going to do it . [applause] so we have now a big, i think a big moment coming up in indiana and we feel very good about it. Well see. I think that deal was such a disaster. As soons i heard it that is end for both of them. Kasich has, he is 1 for 48 or 42. Doesnt matter, whether, i guess it is 42. That includes islands. But he is42. If you think about it, dr. Ben carson who is incredible guy, endorsed me by the way. [applause] doing much better, ben was doing much better than kasich. If you think about it, Chris Christie was doing better. Marco rubio has more delegates right now and he left a month ago. He still has more delegates. And other, others. These people could have hung in for much longer period of time and who knows. Based on this theory. Its a little like a spoiled child. I dont care, mom. Im staying here. Im not leaving. No, it is like ridiculous what is going on. So bottom line is, he is tying in, which some people say it is good for me. I would love him to get out. But cruz will have to get out also because he doesnt have the votes. So, its coming to an end. I think it will come to an end very soon. Really, i speak to the people in this room, because, there has to be unity in our party. There has to be unity in our party. [applause] if theres not, if theres not unity, i mean really good, solidarity, unity, relationships, friendship, we have people like jim where they do such a good job all over the country. We have some great people. But there should be and there has to be unity. Would that being said, could i win without it . I think so. Theyre going to vote for me. Theyre not voting jeb bush didnt support you. Big deal. Like i care. I heard him on television yesterday. Low energy, very low energy. [laughter]. I heard him on television. I wouldnt say this, but i saw him on one of the shows yesterday. I do not consider him a conservative. Folks, im a conservative but at this point who cares . We have to straighten out the country. Give me a break. [cheers and applause] couple of the shows were saying that today. Look, i am a conservative. Im very conservative on a lot of things. Im very conservative in trade. A lot of conservative, you know, geniuses that have absolutely they have high i. Q. And no brain power, they sit back and they say, free trade. I say, free trade, i love free trade. The problem our leaders are not smart people or our leaders are taken care of by special interests, their lobbyists, all the people with the money, campaign people. And, were not making good deals. And when you have china, with a 500 billiondollars a year trade deficit and mexico with a trade deficit of 58 billion, i say well build the wall. It will cost 10 billion. Easy to fpgure out we have a trade deficit with mexico, 58 billion, it is really, really easy. When i get off the debate stage a couple months ago, one of the folks came up. They said youre not really going to build a wall . Yeah, actually, it is real easy. Talk about china. 2,000 years ago they built a while, 13,000 miles long. With natural barriers we only need a thousand miles. 2,000 years ago they can do 13,000. Today they say you cant build a wall. It is so easy. I see beautiful precast plank, with good solid foundations. Nice and high, make the ceiling look like a low ceiling. If anybody gets up there, man, how do we get down. See way they go every our little fences. These guys are amazing. Climb over like it is not even there. Go through it, over it, not going to happen with what were going to do. We have to do it. We want people to come into our country but they have to come in legally folks, otherwise we dont have a country. [cheers and applause] so we have to get together as a party. It is a tougher road, presidency for the republicans. I dont know people talk about this but it really is. Its a tougher road for a republican than it is for a democrat. The road is tougher. It is not easy. You have to pick somebody that knows what is happening and i accept the position [inaudible]. I will bring into play states nobody else will bring. New york is big. I won it with landslide numbers. I beat everybody by 38 points or Something Like that, the second place much more than that lets see if cruz got like 12, and if i got 62, does that mean i beat him like 50 points . Then he will run and represent because he got those delegates to go on the second give me a break. So heres the thing. Heres the thing. We bring new york into play. New york, no republican, except for me, no republican will go to new york to campaign, okay . No republican will go to michigan to campaign. Republican will never beat hillary in florida. I will. You saw i won florida in a landslide. [applause] ill win pennsylvania. Most republicans will never win i dont think any republican can win pennsylvania. Im going, they cover this now by the way the polls are coming out where im leading or even with hillary. Hey, i had, i wrote this, look, i had this, listen to this. 55,000 negative ads as of 2 months ago. Now it is up to exactly 60,000 negative ads. Then i watched like kasich go david donald trump in burlingame. I think we can keep picture up there. Gerri willis joining us now. Gerri willis, yeah. David violent protest in Southern California. It was violent, trump protesters, trump participants beat up by antitrump protesters in Southern California. 17 arrests at that event. David seventeen arrests. Bloody faces by trumps supporters. Trying to orchestrate, same kind of confrontation for this. California gop is having convention. Primary is not until june 7th this is their convention which a lot of delegates and potential delegates get together to hear all candidates. Protesters were clearly trying to prevent donald trump and his supporters from getting in there. A lot of his supporters were already there. You about trump as you saw, possibly in the previous hour had to take a back way into the hotel at which the convention is taking place. But he managed to get in there. Had to jump over a couple of hoops. Walked through a couple of barriers. Got inside and is speaking quite comfortably right now. Lots of pushing and shoving. Weve been watching this for some time. Connell mcshane is outside of the event where trump is speaking. Connell what are you seeing reporter the proximity of the hotel people were getting concerned. Just to give people a sense what it looks like, it is area where you drop off a guest or pull up to register if you werent guest at hotel that was barry caught caded off with barricaded off with police barricades. Prow terses started to pull the barricades towards them. We saw part of this live on the Intelligence Report before she went off air, they were pulling barricades towards them. Police let them do it for a few minutes. Not sure why. Maybe they thought was all there would be to it. Naturally what happened, the barricades became undone and unlinked. As soon as that happened, scream for protesters and rush to the hotel. Things got a little bit dicey because Donald Trumps banquet room where you saw him speak there was only a few steps really, maybe a few hundred feet from the entrance to the hotel, down a staircase. They got very close before the local officials were able tothe. A few minutes ago while trump was speaking, backing into why were in the hotel. While trump was speaking, we came through the police barricades, lance and myself. A group of local Police Officials came storming into the hotel. We followed them. They were at the side door. Protesters made their way to the side door. That is close as you can get to the banquet room without being in the banquet room. They apparently needed reenforcement. They made their way over there to stop anybody from getting inside. We tried to get back outside to give update protesters terse. They secured the area. Most likely until when mr. Trump finishes. This speech is mix, what i can hear what we see at trump rally and what we see more serious speeches he said he would deliver. These protesters maybe not quite as violent as they were last night south of here in orange county. Proximity of protesters to where the event was taking place would certainly have people nervous i would say. Gerri connell, i have to ask you, i watch this all day long, i wonder who are these protesters . Are they professional . Are they animated against trump and want to protest against him . Who are they . Reporter a little bit of both. There are a lot of immigration activists from the signs. Many chants are in spanish and upset with Donald Trumps immigration comment and proposed immigration policies. There is black lives matter component. Weve seen it. Shirts. That is part of it. You have to your professional looking proterse you see Something Like world trader event or anarchists, they have handkerchiefs tied and no sign of what they support or what theyre against. David one thing weve seen beside the signs is mexican flags. Were seeing a lot of mexican flags. Reporter yes. Message is America First it may be counterproductive to have all those mexican flags . Reporter i know. This will be a big issue, as you know, david, june 7th california primary. Donald trump spoke about it last night at the rally, even with protesters outside loud in orange county. He got into the immigration issue and build the wall chant he does have all of his rallies. More so, obviously i dont think it needs to be said in a state in different part of the country as immigration isnt front and center you will hear that until the 7th of june. These protesters knew that. Probably more than 50 of the protesters here those upset with his immigration policies as david by the way were looking now at real broad shot. Weve closed back in again. It appears there may be at most, a couple hundred protesters. How many, how does that contrast with the number of people inside, the number of delegates at convention . Reporter yeah, it is pretty crowd you had inside here as well. Remember all three candidates will be speaking here. John kasich at dinner theyre holding tonight. This is the lunch banquet pacific time. It is 20 after 1 00, whatever it is. Donald trump is headliner at lunch. John kasich tonight. Ted cruz tomorrow with his running mate Carly Fiorina. All campaigns have booths set up to top of stairs. There are booths at various campaigns. You have party groups, Political Action committees and the like. There is broad representation of Republican Party along with party donors. Definitely a few hundred people on inside. To that point, david, we did see, i dont know if you showed video now, but we showed it earlier a little bit of interaction between the protesters and those attending event. Best example of that a man wearing a suit and bright red, make America Great trump hat was trying to get in here. He directly clashed against protesters. They were pushing and shoving man as he walked into the hotel. He got cornered against to shrubbery and pushed into shrubbery. People had to park their cars so far away they had to walk through the protesters. David connell, to interrupt, we see donald trump leaving the Conference Hall right now. We dont know if he immediately will go outside. They may ask him to stay inside for a while, to avoid same kind of problems he had trying to get in. In fact we have video of that. Explain exactly how that happened. Looks as though he is jumping through a couple of barriers and everything to get in there . Well thing about trump when he landed at airport which isnt very far from here, Hyatt Regency is San Francisco airport hotel, the protesters set up, two essentially sitins on either side of the road that leads up to the hotel. Direct route for trumps motorcade was cut off. Secret service had to get creative to come in back entrance. From where we were, i was on with cheryl at the time. We couldnt see it. We were at front of hotel. There was no option for mr. Trump or anybody to come in the front. They went in entrance we couldnt see. From what i was told helicopter shots. He talked about it, first thing he said, wasnt exactly easiest entrance. David he said felt like i was crossing border. Kind of a way to turn it into it joke. Reporter yeah. That is the way he rolls. Gerri connell, just curious, were watching these crowds, some of what were seeing now, is footage shot some time ago. Some of it is live. Im wondering, are people, because trump has just wrapped are they aware of that. Can they tell you from that where you are and are they more animated because of it if. Reporter they are more aware of it. Only reason we know that people started Milling Around again. When we had came in they secured front entrance. Lance you can though shempp. This is main lobby at hotel where people walk in and out. You see people Milling Around and coming back up. Down to the left, down those stairs is where the banquet hall is. That is where trump wrapped up his speech. Police officials going out the doors, yep, these Police Officers in riot gears going out the door that is the door we came in right . We tried to go back out there and wouldnt let us. Looks like theyre opening it up again. Maybe well go south to take a look. Last time we went out there, the protests really calmed down. They started doing what they do. They started singing and chanting but stopped direct physical confrontations with police in riot gear trying to block their way. Gerri you mentioned before all the republican candidates are gerri you mentioned the republican candidates are coming through, dinners, lunches, breakfast. Trump is the only one who gets this kind of welcome, my friend. And apparently the protesters pretty much tracking them down from Southern California to northern california. Do we have any idea whats going to happen next with the protesters, and what their game plan might be . I dont. In this state, in the city, especially, were outside of San Francisco. Just consider this the area that surrounds San Francisco. Theres an obvious history of protests and personal organizing a protest near a one thing i can remember when we were covering new york primary, that donald trump for most part, with the exception of the republican gala, held at grand hyatt, similar event some ways to this, avoided manhattan. Avoided new york city proper in that way. Will he do it this time in big cities in california if im not sure. He has been able to hold many of his rallies outside of large metropolitan areas which makes it from logistical standpoint more difficult to organize protests. California is waiting for this. They havent had heavily contested primary on republican side since 1964. David forgive me for interrupting, connell, were looking at pictures of donald trump leaving the back. He finished his speech at California Convention. This is opening speech of the California Convention. Gerri right center of your screen. David there you see him with the red tie on. Leaving way he came. Well see him cross over a little grass barrier. Then sort of jump up a little walkway. In order to get to the car. All done apparently, unbeknownst to the protesters. Either that or they cant manage to get there. He retracing same route he used to get there, connell. The you have to give kudos secret service, police there, keeping this as tame as it is. I realize there was a lot of pushing and shoving and chanting and singing and drumplaying. At end of the day it was certainly more contained that than happened in reporter the only thing i would add to that if im still on and can you hear me is when the protesters first tried to break through, lets see if they let us outside now, we were trying to break through the barriers. Let me get out of everybodys way. When they first started to pull the barricades back towards them, the Police Officers didnt react, that allowed them to make the rush to the hotel. The subsequent rushes that they made towards the hotel. The reaction was much quicker and able to prevent them from getting out of hand. David we were talking how easy it is for protesters to get access to california for places they may not be able to get access to in other places. We are more than a month away from the california primaries, presumably, donald trump is going to do a lot of events such as the one he just did, and one wonders if law enforcement, they did a good job in keeping him away from the protesters but whether theyll have the same luck as we go forward. Thats amazing, he popped in here, gave a speech. Popped back out. Nothing happened to him, and you saw the crowd. Amazing story. Connell, thank you so much for covering this for us. We really appreciate it. And be safe my friend. David we are very fortunate to have two former president ial candidates to talk about events that are going on here. Former governor of the great state of arkansas Mike Huckabee, and steve forbes who had a campaign of his own, head of forbes media. Mike, steve and i were talking about how this is reminiscent of 1968, i know youre not an old man but you probably remember 68 and the political riots in chicago, which ended up helping the conservative candidate Richard Nixon become president. Of course, the political riots took place at the Democratic Convention in chicago, and here we have protests at the republican convention, but still, the benefit of cruz to the law and ordertype candidate, i would think that is donald trump, wouldnt you . Absolutely. I remember very well 1968, unfortunately, im not nearly as young as i look. [laughter] just for the record. It was an amazing time. I still remember the chant. The whole worlds watching, and the whole world was watching. David and they still are. A genesis of Richard Nixons message on the silent majority and their needs to be a law and order candidate. Thats how he ran, and it was a very Successful Campaign because people were sick of watching their cities burn down and people who werent contributing to america, tearing the whole place down. David so steve, if we see continuation of these kinds of protests particularly if theyre violent like we saw last night with Trump Supporters that were bloodied up, wont that accrue to the benefit of donald trump . It will, if he does what Richard Nixon, talking about 1968. Richard nixon very cleverly and carefully appealed to people inclined to vote for remember george wallace, running as thirdparty candidate . Very much a law and order candidate, and moderates on the republican and on the democratic side. So he appealed as a law and order candidate but did so very, very carefully, so he was able to get enough votes to win, but the amazing thing about 68, david, is the collapse of democratic support. In 64, they got 61 of the vote and 68 it was 42. David how quickly political fortunes can change. Mike, i was wondering about the mexican flags. I know it might be a small issue, but the fact is every time weve seen protesters, particularly in states like california, use the mexican flag to make a point, goes against their cause. Were seeing that mexican flag thing again here. I think it boosts Donald Trumps numbers. Look, theres nothing that makes americans really more angry when theyre struggling to get a job, struggling to make a paycheck thats as good as the one that they got ten years ago, and i know that a lot of the reason theyre struggling is many of the jobs have gone to mexico, and you have people speaking spanish, running through the streets of america carrying the mexican flag for heavens sakes, they couldnt be any dumber if they want to bring sympathy to their cause, they are absolutely missing that completely, and as a result, i do think that this helps to validate what donald trump has been saying about immigration being a real issue. Gerri i want to go to steve forbes but well go to john roberts actually at the event. Steve forbes to you, on the idea of immigration and how important an issue it is. I was wondering whether some of these protesters today were professionals . Is this one of the stagemanaged, crafted protests by people who are backed by a lot of money . I think connell referred earlier to the fact that some of the protests you have the same characters showing up again and again, they disguise themselves with the handkerchiefs and the like, but these things are organized and you see them in the protests on campuses. They all seem to have the same script. That doesnt mean they dont have a core of support, but they certainly arent spontaneous, lets rise up and raid them, go after the barriers. No, this is carefully organized and theyre going to do it in california. The more they do it the more they help donald trump in california, which is the big primary on june 7th. They dont seem to mind that. They also i think, when you see the calm demeanor that trump had at the California Convention which we heard most of, what is amazing is the calm way he handle it. If youre calm and others are rioting about you, people say, hmmm, maybe this guy is somebody we should look at. Gerri you make a very interesting point. Panel. Hang tight here. Were going to go to john roberts whos inside the event where trump was speaking. John . Reporter hey, gerri, good afternoon to you. Donald trump just finished up a little while ago. He made light of the fact that protesters when they broke through the barricades disrupted his motorcades arrival, he had to cross over barricades and go underneath fences, he felt like he was trying cross the border. And we saw donald trump had to exit via the same way. Theres nothing new about protests at donald trump events. Ive been to dozens of them, and for the most part there are protesters there. I was at the infamous chicago event where the protesters shut down his appearance at university of illinois at chicago, and really i think sort of emboldened every other likeminded protest group across the country. If i could say, the one issue that is somewhat troubling about all of this is the fact that the motorcade had to stop at a different location than was planned, and donald trump had to walk and traverse the barricades and go under fences to get into the hotel here near the San Francisco airport because ever since Ronald Reagan was shot back in the early 1980s, the secret service has always made sure that they get their protectee, whether it be a president , a Vice President or a dignitary or one of the president ial candidates, to the place where theyre going to go inside without that person actually being exposed outside. In many places, theyll put up a tent into which they drive either the president ial limousine or the protectees suv, the heavily armored chevy suburbans. For trump to be so exposed this afternoon, might not have presented immediate danger, it is very unusual and definitely is not in keeping with the typical protocol that the secret service follows, gerri. Gerri interesting, john, thank you for that. David lets go back to steve and mike about that point. Steve, shouldnt we be hearing more . Of course, this is not organized. Not organized by the Democratic Party per sne any way, shape, or form. They are mostly radical groups, very much on the fringe. Should we hear more from democrats, the Democratic Party, condemning clearly and unequivocally these kinds of protests . Yes, and that goes back to the first amendment. You can have a peaceable protest but quite another when you try to violently disrupt a rally, which is what happened to trump in chicago, and that was well organized. They knew what they were doing and wanted to disrupt the event and eventually they did. So i dont think thats going to happen anymore, but the point made about having trump out in the open, thats a very good point and highly unusual, and i think theyre going to be better prepared in the future od of exposure. That shows their intelligence in San Francisco is not what it should have been. They should have been prepared for that, especially after what happened last night. The secret service can move usually on a dime if some circumstance changes, but the fact they didnt do it here does lead to very real questions. David by the way, i wanted to point out to viewers, what youre seeing on the left side of the screen is the caravan of donald trump. Fortunately, they were close enough to a local airport to go there. I presume, producers can correctly, i presume thats where the trump plane is and taking off to wherever from that location. But they were only about at most five minutes away from that airport at that time. Gerri, go ahead. Gerri following up on davids point what should democrats do . Should they have a role in denouncing this kind of violence, this harsh protest. If you remember last night in Southern California, fairgrounds officials there, they originally wanted to cut trump off. They didnt want him to speak at all, right . And a lot of people are saying thats the wrong thing, that adds fuel to the fire. Governor huckabee, what do you say to that . Do you think local officials in Southern California were make things worse, not better . Well, i think we need to realize somebody is paying for all this. I remember being at a couple of the last conventions and talking to Police Officers who were involved in both security as well as some of the intelligence about who was protesting. Heres what they told us. They said these are the same people that protest all over the world. They go to a g7, to a g20, they go to wherever the president is going to be, they go to wherever theres going to be a lot of cameras and theyre the same people. Now the question is who pays for all the travel . The hotels . The meals . The cars . Travel is not cheap, and this is a rentamob. Somebody is renting this mob to show up at event after event and if youre wondering why arent there more protests, im guessing some of the people renting the mob might be people who have a vested interest in make the republican candidate look bad. David renting the mob. Interesting phrase. Steve, we all remember Ronald Reagan when he was campaigning at one point when they tried to cut off his mic when he was campaigning, he said i paid for this microphone. A lot of the events we have to remind the viewers are paid for by either in this case the Republican Party or some case the candidates themselves, so these are private, when you see people being removed forcibly, protesters from a Campaign Rally because theyre getting out of control and trying to shut it down, its because the candidate very often paid for the Campaign Rally. Its true, and even if its in a public arena, police for example in new york will have space areas where protesters can go, but you have to remain in that certain area, and i hope after whats happened in california, the police will in other parts of the country be better prepared and work with the secret service so you can contain these things. Fact the police in burlingame moved the barriers back as you reported earlier, that was an invitation. David steve, we can see the trump plane. It took a circuitous route to get there, they had to go around the runway, there is the trump plane, nice to have a plane stamped with your name on it. Nice to get you from here to there. Hotel is two miles away from the airport. John roberts said he could see the hotel from the airport. That was a very fortunate gerri talk about barnstorming, talk about barnstorming, in, out, speech, done. David im sure it makes Mike Huckabee very jealous, he didnt have that luxury when he was campaigning. Uh, no. Gerri go right ahead, governor. No, i didnt have that luxury, it would have been nice. Then i didnt have that many people protesting either. So, look, donald trump has touched a nerve with a lot of people, and i think people are afraid that he is going to win and hes going to change the dynamics, hes going to be a disrupter, and frankly, a good kind of disrupter to the status quo. Not only to the political donor class that needs some disruption but i think hes going to be a disrupter to the people who have said, you know, im going to sit back, not necessarily going to work, somebody is going to take care of all my needs. Hes saying were done with that. Gerri steve, i just want to get to you on this question because one of the comments that people have had who are protesting donald trump is they say they dont like his language. His language which breaks people apart, sets people against each other. Well, my friend on that score, you could say president obama sometime does the same thing. Is that the right thing to saying about donald trump . Is this why these folks should be protesting him because of his language . Can you protest if you find the language offensive and some of it has been, and provocative. Some of it has been, but that doesnt justify violence and trying to disrupt a meeting on your part, and thats where i think the other side is make a mistake by trying to do these disruptions, and again, if trump maintains a calm demeanor, doesnt say, i feel like punching them in the face or any of that kind of stuff, then theyre going to hurt themselves more than they hurt him. David Mike Huckabee, correct me if im wrong, you have not yet officially endorsed donald trump. Sounds like youre getting as closa you could possibly get without endorsing him. When does an endorsement come out from you . Well, ive said all along, i didnt really intend to make an endorsement in the primary. Thats for the voters to decide. That im going support our nominee, ive been very defensive of trump and continue to be and will continue to be because i feel like a lot of people have said, oh, it would be terrible. I think its great that millions have come into our party that have never voted for a republican before. We cant win the general election if all we have is a narrow slice of republicans. Weve got to get democrats and independents and hes pulled a lot of people. Already getting more votes at this point of the process than either mitt romney or john mccain received all the way through the convention when they won the nomination. Gerri lets go to Connell Mcshane on the scene of the protests now. Connell . Reporter so, theyve made their way around to the side of the hotel now. Weve made our way on top of the parking garage to give you a different Vantage Point because these protesters not quite going away. Some of them have. The remaining elements the mexican flag and immigration activists are set up on the side. Goal, if there is a goal is to do a couple of things. Number one to block the entrances and exits, and theyve been fairly effective at that. So much so to john roberts earlier point theyve been able to affect the way a president ial candidate donald trump was able to enter the venue. John was right about this, you would normally never see Something Like this happen with the secret Service Protection like mr. Trump does. People attending the event now and trying to exit, theyre making it difficult on them. You can see this is not a large contingent of protesters, theyve done this before and know how to block exits and entrances. If you are trying to get to your car, theyre making it difficult. A donald trump event does have a number of protesters. Last night probably more violence than today. Point i was making earlier is the proximity and the ability to affect the operation of this event which makes these antitrump protesters unique compared to other parts of the country. David connell, we have a couple other candidates speaking, the convention is not over. What is the schedule for the rest of the evening . Reporter so john kasich, the governor of ohio, will speak at the dinner. Heres the thing about the conventi, it was supposed to be a fairly hohum event. I was going to use boring. Supposed to be run of the mill event. Kasich was supposed to speak and ted cruz scheduled to speak tomorrow. So was Carly Fiorina even before it was announced she would be ted cruzs running mate. Theyll be here tomorrow. What took it up a notch is mr. Trump confirmed he would be the lunchtime speaker, thats when things got a little more interesting and there was more, what should i say . More energy. David i guess what im asking is reporter kasich will be here tonight. David were all of the protesters there just for trump or will they stay there for the longterm and protest the other candidates . Reporter i dont know the answer to that directly, david, but i think its fair to say because many dispersed this was an antitrump protest more so than anticonservative or antirepublican protest. Most all the signs, the chanting had something directly to do with donald trump, whether it be immigration or the general dump trump or get rid of trump type of chant. Mostly about trump. David connell, well come back to you as events warrant. Gerri steve, i wanted to ask you a question, you were talking about how trump needs to remain calm, and thats the key to his winning in a situation like weve seen here. He did go on the attack in his each and did go after carly, and he did go after ted cruz. Can he maintain that level of rhetoric throughout the summer as we close in on november, the kind of stuff hes become famous for in the kind of stuff that his supporters frankly expect . Well, youve got a situation where have you 2030 of the electorate that is very dissatisfied with the democratic prospective nominee Hillary Clinton and donald trump. One is how do you turn down the temperature so the people not on your side will say maybe i should consider voting for this man or woman, and what he put out there in terms of substance, fleshing out some of the things youve been using sound bites on when people say hey, thats a great idea. One of the debates youre going to get is on trade. 45 tariff on chinese imports, equivalent to 45 sales tax. A real debate on that which you havent had so far, on the tax code. Trump has interesting ideas there but he has to flesh those out in terms of what Ronald Reagan did in 1980. People want a little more substance because they have doubts about both candidates. David by the way, if they want substance, listen to forbes on fox at 11 00 a. M. Tomorrow morning eastern time. Steve and i are going to be there to talk about the substantive questions. Mike, theres another question, Mike Huckabee. So many of the folks who have been in the conservative movement for decades are at each others throats, not literally but figuratively speaking. Families are torn apart because of the animosity towards trump, for him or against him, et cetera, will all of the animosity calm down after the convention . Is there a way to bring back the relationships that have been cleaved in half in cases, sometimes even family relationships . Well, in every primary, theres a lot of raw feelings that happen. David but theres been nothing i think its fair to say theres been nothing like weve seen over the past six months . Truly nothing divisive like this, however, when they look around and decide what they do is come together or watch hillary become the president , i think republicans will come together fchl they dont, theyre not real republicans. When i hear somebody say, i am not going to vote for trump, im going to vote for hillary. Write that persons name down, theyre not a republican. If you honestly think can you vote for hillary against a republican, youre not a republican, quit pretending you are. When i hear people say the leaders of the party might not go for, it theyre not the leaders of the party. Theres an old saying, if youre in front of something and think youre a leader and nobody is following you, youre not a leader, youre out for a walk. Some of the folks are out taking a walk and need to get in the game and be a follower because theyre not a leader. David steve, quickly, can i have you answer the same question . The key is trump making outreach, meeting with people at convention, after the convention, showing that hes putting out that olive branch, and again coming up with substantive proposals. A leader has to reach out to those who didnt support him, and good leaders know how to do that. Thats what he must demonstrate after the convention if he wins the nomination, which it looks like hes going to do. David we were fortunate to have two leaders, Mike Huckabee, steve forbes, good to see you both. Gerri another panel, Natalie Andrews of the wall street journal, ford oconnell, former John Mccain Campaign director and capri kafaro joins us now. Ford, start with you, interesting idea brought up about the kind of divisiveness this campaign has introduced and how some people appear to be willing to cross party lines. Ford, do you have a problem with that or do you think this is such a landmark election that things are so in tumult right now, whether youre talking about politicians or talking about the economy, that it makes sense that theres a lot of concern and worry and people moving from one party to another . I think there is a lot of concern and worry and people dont really like the Democratic Party or the Republican Party, and i will say this, the base of the Republican Party can come together, if trump can show hes competitive with Hillary Clinton in the general election. Establishment politics whether its democratic or republican, has got to go away, change to a new course, put America First. David natalie, we just heard from donald trump. It was kind of a i dont know if it was a shortened speech. Didnt go on as long as most of his speeches, but he talked about Hillary Clinton, and were beginning to get more and more a theme how hes going to go against Hillary Clinton if he is the nominee. Lets play a clip of what he said about hillary and get you to respond. I look forward to beating her. Do we look forward to winning . [ applause ] do we look forward to winning . If shes allowed to run. Thats the question. I personally think shes being protected by the democrats. David natalie, of course, Bernie Sanders famously said i dont care about the damn emails, she got a free pass on that in the primary with bernie. Shes not going to get a free pass from donald. How badly is that going to hurt her . I dont know if it will be the emails, i think trumps going to bring everything he has against hillary and i think hillary i think it will definitely be an interesting race, if its donald trump versus Hillary Clinton. I think thats where things are definitely going. David is the email controversy, and even supporters of hillary admit it has hurt her in the likability, the trustworthiness, et cetera, polls, if you have a candidate going day after day after day on the emails themselves, how will that affect her campaign, specificallyo, mails . I dont think it will be the emails that come up. Its the day to day. You have the womens card issue that came up and theyre riling it seems like emails that was months ago, and youre going to have the daytoday issues. I disagree. Gerri go right ahead, capri, jump in here . I disagree. I think donald trump is going to bring up the emails. This is an issue of veracity, this is part of the clinton narrative whether its bill clinton or Hillary Clinton, that theres a lot of questions surrounding their honesty, and i think that donald trump will throw everything in the kitchen sink at Hillary Clinton, and that is absolutely going to include the emails, he does bring it up frequently as you heard on the clip, were not sure if shes going to be able to run. I dont know if the democrats are protecting her, i think the email issue is going to be important. David by the way, i was going to say that was a d next to capris name for democrat. I call it like i see it. I have to admit the democrats are protecting her. I dont think so. Debbie Wasserman Schultz has done everything she can for Hillary Clinton to win this. Trump is talking about the fbi protecting her. Shes going to get everything thrown against her donald trump is going to throw everything against her. It will stick . Thats a different story. You are absolutely right. We have understand hillary is a weak campaigner and the question for donald trump is do i want to become more likable or drag Hillary Clinton in the mud with me and say hey, were unlikable, who are people going to stand for you . Are offering establishment politics and machine politics, im offering a fresh look to look at things, whether its with donors, how we do business and foreign energy. Were dealing with both. Were dealing with candidates here that both have high unfavorable scores and their unfavorable scores are rising which makes for an interesting election. Gerri absolutely true. I think will only get worse. Will there are protests as protests go against donald trump . Will the protesters go toward hillary or where will they go . Theyre looking for a candidate. Gerri capri, let me interrupt this wonderful conversation and debate, let me ask you this, is hillary ready for donald trump . Theres a lot of bluster around the fact that the Hillary Campaign as well as democrats at large continue to say we are so excited to run against donald trump because he has such high negat women and minorities and with the hispanic latino population, hes the ideal candidate to run gaevenlts internally, there is a different narrative going on. There is a lot of reservation and fear, because lets face it, donald trump has picked off all of his adversaries one by one by one, there were 17, now three standing and one at the end of the day, and i think Hillary Clinton recognizes at least privately that its not going to be as easy as they think to run against donald trump. David ford, hang on a second, capri recognizes as a democrat theyve got some problems, that they need to, if they dont address them, im not sure capri would go over to the donald trump side, but who knows . Let me ask you, can you think of occasion or instance or possibility because of problems with Hillary Clintons candidacy or her positions, you might vote for donald trump . You know, its tough, i feel strongly about womens reproductive rights and collective bargaining, there are reasons im a democrat and recognize the weaknesses, there are a lot of democrats and saw this in ohio that will cross over because they do see there are questions around Hillary Clinton. I can answer a question here . That is that trump has really unique product. He has an einsteinesque media iq and understands the message of the times. Ted cruz will be more of a conventional candidate, where Hillary Clinton is going to walk out there and say war on women, despise minorities, hate the poor, rinse, wash and repeat. Because donald trump is unpredictable he has a chance to win here. Gerri ford, let me interrupt you. People will say wow, when it comes down to it, people will go with somebody they know and seen in action and trump is not that person. I totally disagree with that possibility. Whether its democrat or republican for the last 50 years and people are tired of the fact that its going to go along, get along, same as can be and may not agree with trump, may not like trump. They are sure hes going to do something and isnt beholden to anyone. He has to learn in general election about tone and rhetoric. David natalie . They keep pushing people toward their candidate on each side of the party. Republicans, democrats. David Natalie Andrews, ford oconnell, capri cafaro. What a day it has been. Protest against donald trump, forcing him to go into the campaign in a way he didnt expect to get there. This is the convention in california. The prior ma irry is not until june 7th. If this is any indication of the campaigning risk reward starts right now. [laughter] my wife called, said there are helicopters following you. We did. We went under a fence and through a fence and, oh, boy, felt like i was crossing the border. They said mr. Trump, would be really much easier sir if you just didnt speak today and jess left to go back immediately to indiana. I said, i know, we cant let these people down, right . Do we agree . Deirdre that was donald trump, moments ago speaking in california. This is risk reward. Im deirdre bolton. Police officers in riot gear faced off with protesters in front of the Hyatt Regency san fan airport hotel. Some activists broke through barriers and rushed the building where trump spoke. Leaving that very same event Donald Trumps motorcade had to take an alternative route