I dont know or could the ukrainians be sharper in their statements, or again, it would be wrong to use them, they were very sharp there, there were a lot of appeals to the pope, greek catholics, come over to us , the Orthodox Church, what are you doing with that pope vergolius, as you can see here again we are now in this one war. Do we look fairly at other countries or h you know black and white who is for us and who is not for us, but the vatican never adheres to such a position and in various kinds of conflicts the vatican acted as a mediator or helped those uh, you know, the parties who did not had help, it is only important in our context here to understand that the vatican has a great influence regarding the exchange of prisoners in particular and if this is and this is almost the last window there to russia and in this way you know how to process this window now and give some ultimatums to the popes there i think pope, i think that it is extremely wrong, that is, in order to better understand the pope, or to try to understand, we need to understand vatican diplomacy and the principles on which it is built , and i think that this has happened more than once in history , that after he situations when the pope helped without announcing it, well, i say some things about the exchange of prisoners are known, some are not, some will become known later. Therefore, this is not a position, you know, to sell the pope, but the position of what needs to be understood is at least to try to understand the positions of the stuck and the vatican is now losing its rating in the world , lets say, and the pope has always been, you know, an Undisputed Authority in the world , but now because of these blunders, in particular, which happen to ukraine, according to his statements, he is losing them little by little, but i would urge ukrainians to be a little more careful here, mr. Roman, we have two more questions and we have two minutes left for the conversation. I will try to be very brief. So you know there is a tradition, you say that the vatican has always been somewhere in the middle, but there is a tradition in our country, see yosyp slipy, in our country there was myroslav lyubachevskiy we had er lyubomir huzar they each had a cardinal now the procedure was again devoted to the sand cardinals retrail somalia anyone ukraine there is no sviatoslav not the cardinal its so they point to our place that we are not important anymore for the critic oh difficult question i ca nt to say that i have is not unimportant for the vatican and but still, i think that these are certain cities and political decisions, but not political decisions from the perspective of pointing out in honor of the place the pope was in mongolia, well, what prevents the pope from coming to ukraine, the truth is that i think that again, this is his past, this is the environment that surrounds the pope, it also influences him and tells him how to behave, and this environment is not always proukrainian , and precisely such visits are needed so that our bishops directly provide information to the pope and correctly cover everything. As for the cardinal, this is an internal vatican subpoena. I think an extremely limited circle of people knows about it. I think that the experience of his beatitude svyatoslav. Why is he not a cardinal as of now . But i dont think that this is some kind of slap to the Ukrainian Church or to the most blessed holiday directly about the black sea Orthodox Church. Now our viewers will be surprised why suddenly, but it turns out that the black sea Orthodox Church has elected a new ukrainianspeaking head, bishop of ostroh nikshytskyi, boris buyovych, and he is a monk shot and an archamadrid himself received from the ukrainian Orthodox Church and the kyiv patriarchate in kyiv in 2016. They did not find out why and what this means for the Orthodox Church in montenegro in 2016. This case is actually very similar to of the Orthodox Church of ukraine, because the Montenegrin Church from the 17th century until 1918 had its own autocephaly, but then due to the formation of the kingdom of serbs , slovenes, croats, all the churches were united and accepted into the single seb Orthodox Church, we know how the serbian Orthodox Church treats ukraine and who is its ally the rpc this is no secret, and even this protege of the Serbian Church said this year that the ukrainian Orthodox Church of the moscow patriarchate is being persecuted in ukraine, that our government is chauvinistic and so further, if the serbian position, the position of the Serbian Church is obvious, but the montenegrins are against it, and in particular, even the leaders of this church say that the issue of tomos, on the one hand, and the resistance of the ukrainian people, on the other, inspired them to do so, as you know from these lavs of the Serbian Church and the moscow lavra, in particular you and thats why the new head of the church chooses the movement for the unity of constantinople and this means to get this canonical status again and get the opportunity to be in the family of recognized Orthodox Churches because since 1993, the church has proclaimed autocephaly, but it is not yet in unity with the ecumenical patriarchate, so even the president said that this is a preliminary issue , the president of montenegro said that it is a matter of National Security and we should move towards the civilized world, and he just gave the example of the orthodox the church of ukraine that the churches should also have, lets say, fight for their independence, and in montenegro this was accompanied by many different demonstrations where people expressed their support for the fact that finally the Montenegrin Church has the right to act independently and not be, you know, a religious vassal of the serbian Orthodox Church, that is, the situation is very, very similar to the one we have in ukraine. In the morning, the director of the institute of religion and society of the Ukrainian Catholic University was with us, and the black sea Orthodox Church elected a new ukrainianspeaking head, by the way the ukrainian language. There is a beautiful video where a ukrainian woman talks to a military man from the Czech Republic and guess what language they speak and guess how much time this military man had to use to master you wont believe ukrainian, its a record short time, we listen and watch eh, something went wrong with us, without a sound , and in a word, a boy from the Czech Republic mastered ukrainian in a week or two, this girl asks him and he says that the language is quite similar to czech of course that he has such czech words and hears this czech accent, but he says that uh hmm and the girl is surprised and says listen how it is so short in such a short time sometimes ukrainians live here all their life ukrainians cannot study he says the main thing he really says the wish reluctance ee gloglavne desicnoe i understand that this word sounds like this in the czech language, take an example from the czechs who study the ukrainian language. Thank you for staying with us for a long time. There is one more guest ahead, so it will be interesting. 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M. 10 for espresso, dear friends, we return on tuesday and continue our marathon, i want to tell you that we have achieved the goal, well, such a small goal that because you are our big goal, i set a goal of 1 million 760,000 hryvnias, but today we crossed the mark of 70,000 hryvnias. We have already collected 71,000 hryvnias for today with you on platforms with turrets, join the collection, dont stop, because we still have many, many hryvnias ahead of us we need to collect therefore, while we are talking, see the qrcode in the lower left corner and tell who how much it does not hurt who how much wants to help the da vinci wolves and the Adam Tactical Group so that we can buy aa platforms with turrets for them Ukrainian Development that will make life easier for them on the field, by the way, the battle in our country is still ahead. Later, there will be a single assembly, and even putin took it very seriously. Here is the last uh, the last pictures, a photo report from his meeting where he holds a meeting with iration and shoigu. In principle, they are seriously preparing for our next collection , because they know that maximum protection is needed now against the fact that we will collect with you later, and they are already in principle trying to protect themselves. Thats how it is with tires with tires well, they have already tested it on airplanes, they say that it is very, very helpful, so now they do not remove the tires from the head correctly , no matter what, it always helps, we used it during our maidans and everything worked out for us. Now we still have power more to the people than to the scoundrels, gentlemen. And now what do i want to say about the fact that we are actually announcing a little event, we will have a forum. Wait until the forum. Listen, we showed the video, but there was no sound where a military man goes and communicates like this with our ukrainian a girl, probably this im a volunteer, im kind of thinking, uh, and theyre talking about the ukrainian language, we can listen to this beautiful dialogue, uh, a guy from the Czech Republic, a girl from ukraine, and thats what language they speak, uh , something didnt work out again, after all, we re really sorry, im really sorry lets do everything three times, dont give up, as he taught. And on combat, lets say yes, on zero with the boys, because there was no option, there was an option to die, or something in the kyiv company, or if the condition worked out, then i would help to learn in the option, just by communicating with it was funny to them, and it was funny to them from ours, well, its enough in the field, im funny, but well, then, vovchytsa can do it, the most important thing is that there is a desire, everything is certain , yes, he cant learn ukrainian in his whole life in ukraine, but no, its difficult for us, vova, and for how long . The music is a beautiful guy but now we present to your attention our next guest yana konyok, executive director of ictv and the organizers and sfid 2023 er, this is actually called the international biotifor of 2023 and ms. I, well, you know, i want to say september 2021 in kyiv and a the hague will take place for the first time and will become the starting point for the development of ukraines green strategy for the next 20 years, and you know, i always think about this word systeiny to run and about the fact that somehow in the ukrainian language we do not have a good counterpart to this word, it is very, very important in i was once very impressed how in britain and ireland, for example, you know when they have these farm plots and which are rented or owned, more often they are rented and the boundaries between them are marked by such and such barriers, walls, which they can stretch for a kilometer, which are laid out of stone, that is, simply erecting them, it was worth the effort of perhaps generations, and which now they were made once and for all, in fact, and now as soon as they are supported in some condition that they did not collapse in subsequent generations, but when building them, the people of generations ago knew that these the boundaries will remain. Even if it is a leased plot, they will not go anywhere, they will be able to pass this lease on as an inheritance to their descendants, and this is definitely a system white. I understand that in ukraine it is very difficult to plan something on the end of this year, even especially now and it has always never been our horse, all of our country, where, unfortunately, in this territory , everything has been destroyed without end, everything has been destroyed for more than a century, even so, your goal is to formulate our such a whole jenda for the next 20 years it is very nice to have a word of good day to you, but to tell a little about the International SustainableDevelopment Forum itself, its main purpose will be the formation of this green strategy for ukraine for the next 20 years, and also to gather together on one platform the business sector of ukraine and the eu in order to communicate practically in order to determine what solutions should be implemented for ukraine to find solutions for how to restore ukraine and in particular not the principles of Sustainable Development, plus it is important to understand that this forum will gather the main styles of holders of ukraine and the eu that will be common communicate find solutions and communicate because our association of Sustainable Development experts considers it very important that we should unite, i. E. The Public Sector , government structures, business have free to unite in order to give certain solutions, certain developments, and just such a result will be the green strategy for ukraine for the next 20 years. It will be a socalled road map of developments for the development of ukraine, taking into account the principles of Sustainable Development, european principles of partnership, that is, we we have to talk about all this and come to a common conclusion together on our forum, what if we say that it will also take place in gas in kyiv, in connection with what it is connected with, how it will look at the level of the organization, i. E. 20 september directly in kyiv on the 21st of the gas. That is, we separated two days of the ukrainian program, it will be more focused on such a dialogue on political dialogue on finance and investments and on partnership and the day of the invasion, it will be more focused on such specific topics as decarbonization and the transition to of the Green Economy and the agricultural sector. That is, we distinguish between these two days, but we have a common common result, a common specificity of the forum, and you will directly have to work on what in order to get this result. And what level the representation of the parties that will participate in the forum is directly state structures , key relevant ministries, such as the ministry of social policy, the ministry of economy, the ministry of foreign affairs, the ministry of infrastructure, and it will also be directly the business sector and the Public Sector. That is, we want to combine these three components as much as possible in order to practically in addition, all ukrainian and international experts, i. E. Experts who will speak on important topics related to decarbonization and the Green Economy, will talk Green Investments and so on, Green Investments. How can they be implemented in a country where a fullscale invasion continues as the order of the day after our victory, but for now, we want to do exactly this work, this green strategy in order to show how in the future it is possible to restore ukraine on the principle of Sustainable Development and in this direction to attract this knowledge of investments that is, it will all be in the future, well, ladies , thank you very much for this conversation, information, im on a horse with you was the executive director actually asdia and the organizer of the International Forum of Sustainable Development absolutely agree with the translation of this term, the system of biology. Thank you for this conversation. Listen, yesterday we literally spoke with the director of the institute of national remembrance, mr. M. God give us a shotgun and and he absolutely knew, agreed with our thesis that we are here, we were here saying that it is not very good that we have august 23, the day when the whole of europe celebrates the day of the black ribbon , blackview day, which actually mentions the pact molotovribbentrop sign and remember the victims of oldtimeism, itarism, fascism, nazism, we celebrate the day of the ukrainian flag , which is not by the way, there is no connection to any event with the ukrainian flag, i read , then look at something, and you can see that president zelenskyi clearly heard us and addressed us mr. Rupovych has already asked for advice and instructed to update the system of professional holidays, in particular , it looks like in our country, for example, the day of remembrance of the victims of the crimean tatar genocide of science coincides with the day of science, in our country it is the day of physical culture and sports coincide with it ukrainian cinema builders day coincides with professional veterinary medicine lawyers day happy artists day i would go a little further i would suggest simply canceling these soviet ones i understand that everyone is a very Good Opportunity for a doctors or journalists or students day to raise a toast european , soviet, and ukrainian, try to sort it out, i really like to celebrate like that, but you have to somehow first doctors day, it means that you need to protect the health of doctors and those who come to me calmly russian poet dmitriy prihova had a good poem about the fact that fishermans day and that fishermans day , the fisherman is a day of incomparable and gods medicine. I think that there was a very cool irony in this among these cool yet antisoviet russianspeaking antisoviets, and unfortunately the reception is not dead now, i think for sure his voice would have been heard, he would have definitely spoken out against this war and putins regime. Well, but uh, but, but, you see, this is the matter of the soviet past, which still unites us with russia , in particular, it is still alive and it is definitely worth saying goodbye to it. Dear friends, we are now going on a short break. Thank you for being with us today. Thank you. That you join our ee collections to our donation collection e funds 619,365 hryvnias 79 kopecks and more than 70,000 in total today we managed to collect ee million 760 thousand ahead in general with us well, but we are already a little closer to our goal further on our air there will be an interview with the author of the book how are you there , kharkiv blogger anna gin, who talks about the first year of the full scale invasion and see you tomorrow morning at 7 10 pain can become an obstacle walking up the stairs not with my knees from knee pain try the cream dolgit pain reliever reduces swelling and improves the mobility of the joints, you can also walk the only yellow cream for joint pain and beyond amiksin ic 10 in pharmacies travelogue bam and ochad there are discounts on the painkiller trio forte 10 in pharmacies travelogue bam and ochad here is always relevant for everyone his Akhtem Seytablaev the one who was called yours the one who chose you forever age before him from a young age you confessed to him the lord himself is your year elizaveta sharikova life is exhausted compete the past beckons the gatekeeper and hands over and let Yaryna Chornoguz here the mirror is directed at me exactly in the dark and without a goal you are really here you are really here for sure you are not here this is not here where are you and where are you there is and where you are taras kompanichenko, god forbid summer, god forbid, laskin, let us break the chains of mutations, spread them exclusively on the air of the program vasyl zimis Big Broadcast , viewers of the espresso tv channel will be the first to know the name of the 2023 vasyl stus prize laureate , turn on espresso on thursday, september 14 at 7 00 p. M. 15 is the 23rd separate rifle battalion of the armed forces of ukraine. Now we were already in such a significant salient. And in fact, at the very edge of this salient , we are holding the defense. The battalion has joined the defense of the orks in Donetsk Region and is holding its position right now, the military needs our help fighters need drones to lead development and destroy the enemy even on the approach, we take the approach every drone is the lost enemy and the saved life of our warrior, join the gathering , we will show our fighters that we are next to them , congratulations , friends, we are at one of the largest book events in ukraine in direct portable to be honest, a whole day here is not enough or to go through all the locations, what is called and how at every cultural event. More precisely, like at every book event, everything is related and i am not only touching on books, for example here such a small exhibition of caricatures of yuri the crane is small because he has many more of them, i think you have already seen many of these drawings because yuri is one of the most popular cartoonists in but he is also a musician , i will remind first of all, we can see books as usual. It is logical that you can buy books here. And i want to say that it is convenient because you can not only buy a book, but also grab a writer somewhere and ask for an autograph if you like it, well, and secondly, you can always here listen to some speeches again by writers and the writer now. There in the back is dara korneeva, a childrens author. She speaks and tells about some childrens literary monsters. Its very interesting, and also, again, there are several locations with different speeches, for example, if you turn left, there is a conversation about linguicide, which is also very interesting. And it is important because the speakers talk about the fact that in our country there is vinfocyts and