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Meat what does this threaten ukraine, a quiet protest romania finally admitted that the wreckage of a russian drone fell on its territory why did it deny it for so long we will talk about this and other things in the next hour with our experts today we will have a military expert valentyn batrak and a serviceman of the armed forces former minister of infrastructure of ukraine Volodymyr Omelyan however, before starting our big conversation, lets see how ukraine regained control over the socalled boyka towers in the black sea, it was a special operation of the Main Administration of the ministry of defense of ukraine, we are watching groups of special forces of the Main Intelligence Administration of the ministry of defense are going on another combat mission, their special goal today is to return one of the socalled boyka towers under the control of ukraine, finally the boat with fighters reaches its destination, the sea began to storm and it is very difficult for a small rubber boat to moor after this finally manages to be done, the special forces begin to carefully examine the platform for today, for cleaning, complete neutralization the enemy radar station under the cover of night, the special forces return home after a few days the fighters of the Main Intelligence Department again return to the drilling rig rs niva will no longer follow our actions in the black sea, and guided air missiles will be needed by our defenders and soon they will again go to the russians, the enemy used this tower as an update of the military personnel. We also found a fuel tank there, that is, this mouse was very important for the enemy because they refueled there and also replenished byka so, this is a unique special operation that took place. With the return of these boika towers, which were under the control of the Russian Federation since 2015 after the annexation of crimea, for those who are now watching us live on youtube, i want to invite you to participate in a survey. Today we ask you about this, are you ready to endure a long war with russia yes no your option please write in the comments and at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote do not forget to like this video and also subscribe to our social networks i want to introduce todays first guest is valentina batrak, director of the Army Conversion and Disarmament Research center, a military expert, mr. Valentina. I congratulate you for the sake of seeing you on our air. I sincerely congratulate you, mr. Sergey , thank you for the invitation. So, mr. Valentina, let s start with the statement of Volodymyr Zelenskyi , which he made in an interview. In an economist publication, he said that, er, i and my team must be ready for a long war, and emotionally i am ready, but the head of state noted that russia is now fragile, quote putin does not understand that he will lose in a long war because it doesnt matter that he is supported by 60 or 70 of russians, nor his economy will lose, said the president , at the same time, the president emphasized that since ukraine will increase its strikes inside russia, the russians will begin to ask uncomfortable questions about the inability of their army to protect it, after all, according to the president , ukrainian drones will continue to land in russia. Do you share the predictions of president zelenskyi, who says that russia will not withstand this longterm war . And how will ukraine be in this longterm war . Well, lets go lets start with the fact that what is happening in russia, but today it became known about the study of a sociological survey of ee in a conditionally independent, but we use these data levadacenter, which recorded ee even under the conditions of yes that it is controlled in russia, all structures are permeated by special services the science of journalism, which has not been there for a long time, so the Levada Center recorded a record drop in support for the army and the war. 40 said they were tired of the war, and 50 were in favor of negotiations, and this despite the fact that in russia we understand that sociological survey to count on sincerity, er, very er, well, er, it is unlikely, yes, in all honesty, someone can afford it, but many people just try to adapt to the situation and keep the gene code that was still in stalins time and, er, remember something by the way, the greatest support is definitely expressed by russian people aged 4550 and over, that is, older adults, youth, only 28 are ready to support, so we see that the situation there is picking up such negative spins and not everything is like that uh, its just how putin seems now, well, putin, uh, he will drag the situation to the end , and even this is a humiliating meeting with the head of north korea, uh, this is despite the fact that putin understands that he will lose south korea, and there were record trade turnovers a record for the 21st year. And actually speaking, well, it started to decrease, but not to the end, and we know that even lancet drones in russia are produced on highprecision machines in south korea and japan, that is why these are such risky steps. But not only risky and demonstrative steps for putin that he goes to humiliation for the sake of bending this war , because he actually cant afford to get crimea back , this is not just a defeat for him. Further, until someone there, iran, north korea, myanmar, they will support providing some weapons. Well, this is an option for putin, people. They can collect a lot there, they have almost no problems, critical words, critical losses, etc. This is not about russia, they cannot be there at all of critical losses, if we consider people, then it can be several million. And if we take equipment, we can see it now, how quickly it started, they transferred everything to everything, subordinated it to the war, and even those from 46 and chants that are now spread across the borders are deployed in the same way evidence that even such missiles as ker 500 for iskander, they have increased production and, well, we see a lot here, the sanctions do not work because they do not dare to do something, but the small simka, which had the intention of may to introduce e to consider the introduction of a complete ban on exports to russia. I did not dare to do this and they are doing all kinds of such things. Well, for ukraine, we simply have no way out of continuing the war. In fact, we have reached a situation where putin has no other way out than to continue the war, and we have no choice. Exit because a genocide is taking place against ukrainians. By the way , timatisna, a wellknown world historian , stated this frankly and said that there are five signs of genocide, and russia is using all five against the ukrainian people, that is, it is going against us genocide, and we understand that some possible part could theoretically adapt, well, they could adapt, but a significant number of ukrainians would simply be either killed or deported, and thats why. Strictly speaking, if we want to survive at all, we have to fight , because we have no other way out, not just to fight and to win and more than that. Now it is very important for ukraine that not only here in our land we want the destruction of putins regime , the liquidation of the criminal regime. Slowed down yes well, there is nothing there so far. So active things are not being done, we know the negative things that. Putin missed two trips to the 20th and brics. But. Putin will not be arrested in brazil this year, and brazil will organize the same twentysomethings there. He already denied it in the 24th year, you said 2124th year. Yes , he already denied this information. The president of brazil he said that the judiciary will decide because they have attached and have the position of the rome statute, but we see, in the end, we see the situation that what general mil, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff of the United States of america , says, he says that the war will continue until one of the parties militarily achieves a political goal. I agree, because there is no other way, and politically, negotiations are impossible because Russian Troops are in the occupied territory and we cannot start negotiations now, and putin does not want them to withdraw and therefore. Strictly speaking, this is the situation. You would have already mentioned the regions and the main region for which president putin is holding on this is crimea. It is actually there. The loss of crimea will mean the collapse of a political career and, in general, possibly the collapse of life. Of vladimir putin, biden says that it is more true, uh, thats cool, the shell times writes that biden is getting closer to the decision to send tam missiles to ukraine, these missiles will allow to hit the territory of ukraine on the Crimean Peninsula. It says the same zelenskyi says that i hope to convince biden to give us an otakan already this fall we will listen to what the president of ukraine said. I hope i will talk to President Biden. His opinion and support are very important to me. I think he can turn this page of the war. He has already done it once. Its with heimers it was very important so about the attacks ill talk to President Biden again this is not the first negotiation were moving forward i hope we ll get them in the fall its very important for us not to pause in this counteroffensive thats why i really need them, mr. Valentina. Does the lack of such weapons and the delay in providing these weapons indicate that the west is afraid of a quick counteroffensive by the armed forces of ukraine and, accordingly, ungovernability in the Russian Federation due to the loss of putins control over the armed forces of the Russian Federation . Together with mr. Academician volodymyr gorbulin, er, in the last er, in the extreme, we will say yes , in our publications at the beginning of september, we wrote about the fact that er, there is no decision on operationaltactical, and this is ballistic, by the way missiles that can be used immediately from himers launchers, that is, you dont even need to learn. Its actually the lack of approval by washington of the deoccupation of crimea. This is what the situation is, on the one hand , the ukrainian authorities will try to convince biden. I dont know what it is. Will end because he has been close to making a decision for almost a year now. Yes, he is very close to making such a decision, but he has not made it yet. And the question is how many such emissiles can be in ukraine in june, let me remind you, the congressmen said about reserving 80 million dollars. And this is approximately 8090 such missiles, in general we would need, as i have already said more than once, about 400 missiles , that is, if there were a hundred operationaltactical ground attack missiles, and how strong are they . Ballistic missiles, as i already said, in fact, only the s400 can kill them and can knock them down only in theory. Yes, all the strikes will be highly accurate and in fact, they will be confident. This is a very High Percentage in russia too. There is nothing to be done about it, and they are not so afraid of it. Whats next . As soon as ukraine received bidens decision about these missiles. Probably , anna lena berkova, the minister of Foreign Affairs of germany, was in kyiv today, and i think so too. What was the assurance that biden would say yes about the attack and berlin would immediately say yes about the taurus cruise missiles, cruise missiles are a little easier to shoot down, but if there will be many strikes and they will be in different places, and i will remind you that russia is a big country, even the Crimean Peninsula is there its such a territory it is extremely difficult for russia to completely close all the facilities, we can see even from the strikes of drones on various airfields that they cannot close all their airfields because there are many of them and there are not as many means as before and also britain and france with their cruise missiles a little shorter range of 200250 km and then we will have this critically important number of missiles in order to actually shoot down the infrastructure of military facilities on the territory of primarily occupied crimea and uh, besides this, it is very important, uh, ukraine is already making its missiles and its drones more powerful uh, now it is already being said that the payload of drones will be significantly increased, and uh, it wont just be uh, scarecrows for the moscow network. And these will be drones that will uh, very seriously hit e defense enterprises, so uh well, when we will see you, well, in lyubartsy, there is already the First Defense Company Recently in august, and it produces microelectronics for missiles, but in lyubartsy, we still do not know how the attack was carried out. Maybe it was even a nondrone or a drone, but not from the territory of ukraine here i do not have such information full, but as soon as we start drinking rockets with our new rockets and drones and we have to make a rocket up to 500 km i hope that it will be ready for use already at the beginning of the 24th year and if so, then e, we will all see how the elements will be destroyed of the defense potential of russia, in particular, first of all, these are defense enterprises. As soon as we see it, all this can be considered that uh, here we are, we will achieve our goal uh, by military means of flight, and then, uh, i really believe that after uh, such a partition crimea and so on the destruction of russian groups and their equipment, and after that, the entire russian russian group, the entire russian army, may simply fall, and then we will have a situation when when they will make, i think, a gesture of goodwill , just like with kherson, and they will simply leave the crimea, and maybe this is just right will coincide with the fall of the putin regime itself or with the physical death of putin, and it will be easier for the russian side to make such a decision after changing the government, because the one who will make this decision simply admits that putin was wrong anecdotes about the predecessor, yes, it can happen here too, but of course this is such an optimistic scenario, because it may not be entirely optimistic, when the missiles are still not willing to give , it will delay, lets say, the transfer of f16 planes , they will say that not everything has been studied there uh, its a shame that the american general, a very wellknown supporter of ours , was forced to say that ukrainian pilots should fly airplanes and not read shakespeare in english, so he hinted that things could happen delays with these transmissions, therefore, in this case, ukraine will first of all be forced to focus on its own forces, which is now, in principle, being seriously developed, as he said , these rockets are recycled neptunes, and these are, strictly speaking, the latest modern drones that will have a payload of 50 and more kilograms er , er, er, in the end, ukraine will not be able to buy the crimea purely on its own, as we understand it. Well, there will just be shelling , firefights, and er, in fact, er. In this way , putin can really drag out the war expects that in the 24th year there will be some political changes in the United States eh and eh some will happen some eh maybe something can happen in other countries some some under the influence of china by the way something may happen and eh so he is taking time, because taking time out is just a greeting for him, the situation is already talking about time, and the minister of defense of germany , boris pistorius. He said that there are 40 , maybe 50 days until the wet and rainy period on the front. And that rammstein, this whole coalition, which united in rammstein that they now they will do their best to help ukraine, lets hear what he said, we are working in germany on a new package worth almost several hundred Million Euros , i think he will be ready for the next meeting of the Ukrainian Defense Contact Group in rammstein, of course we understand that there are only 3040 left, or maybe 50 days before the season when the rains will start and it will be cold. So we are trying to support ukraine and do everything promptly. Well, the minister of Foreign Affairs of germany, a na lena berbuk, who arrived in kyiv, would have announced about the delivery of possible the delivery of the taurus missiles that you have already mentioned, we will also listen to her more than knowledgeable and at the same time it is not enough to simply promise that this is exactly why, as in the case of the iriste as well as with other deliveries that we made, all issues must be clarified, you have 5 mr. Valentina, if we are talking about russia, you are quite angry about what is happening there. And what will this longterm war lead to, but this is a longterm transfer of these weapons from the first longrange missiles, now they promise f16 and, well, in wall street, the miller writes about that that these planes can be in ukraine already in february 24th, that is, this winter, but we see that this International Machine and the International Coalition are moving very slowly in determining the priorities of what ukraine needs, when it needs to be transferred, whether on time or not, that is, this is a delay or maybe it will affect the end of the russianukrainian war, considering that now a lot of people are dying at the front, and on the 13th they are breaking through redoubts in donetsk and luhansk regions in zaporizhzhia. I think mr. Serhiy is not finals and at the end of the war, because, as i said, there is no other way out than to fight the ukrainians, yes , unfortunately, there will be losses without air support , without these missiles, but in the end, the ukrainians are just as guilty, because a lot of time was lost it would be possible if , look at one example, uh, they started making rockets, uh, a Missile Program for creating a rocket, the ground is not against a ships missile. Actually made in a year yes, if we consider that such a missile appeared from the moment when the kum ee antiaircraft Missile System s40 triumph was hit in the crimea, we remember on the Independence Day of ukraine, that is, what i am talking about, it started in may of last year Missile Program a year later, our designers made, lets imagine that this decision was made earlier, for example, at the level of the 20th year, at the level of the 19th year, we would already have hundreds of such missiles, hundreds of such missiles would have already the enemy with its missiles on their territory, therefore, of course, there is not only problems in the western partners, which are based on their political considerations, a and b, we are the same, but in the end, if you look at the russian soldiers , morale is very low now. Many of them use alcohol and drugs. Many are ready to surrender , especially after such a very Successful Special operation of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the ministry of defense with the dragging of a helicopter here with the pilot, after that it really became clear that ukraine does not want to continue ukraine wants to end this war, but to end it by liberating its territories is to end it justly, so the delay will have an effect, but it will not affect the final final. I think that even the western world will not allow ukraine to fall, it will not allow it to lose. Now , in addition to the western world , we have support supporters, we have such countries as japan, south korea, and australia, this is very big positive changes are taking place in the world , and in fact, even today, there was a publication of one of the western publications where there was it is said that they return to the concept of the axis of evil when these villains unite, but the publication seems to be a more german edition called this alliance with the alliance of the weak there will be such endurance, then ukraine will definitely win and maybe even in the 24th year, uh, one more very important point, i want to say that somewhere last week, for the first time, europe overtook the United States in providing aid to ukraine , that is, European Countries are dragging this situation on themselves, realizing that political changes may lead to a decrease in the level of support from the United States for ukraines support, and europe will not turn away for a second moment during the 20th century, very significant steps were taken to restrain china in the economic sphere, i will not list them , but china is currently experiencing many such crisis events and the fact that the leader of china would like to change this world order a little bit now, he is less successful than, for example, in the 22nd year, when he held something very magical , and then here is the brics meeting is revealed such points that it is not possible to create an antiwestern block of an antiwestern system. Actually, to date, this meeting is a meeting of the twenty. It was very important that india actually found itself on the side of the western world, in fact de facto because lets say this one route is in quotes yes chinese. India also participates there and is

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