Really do something so revolutionary, but the next round of financing cannot be involved because the two conditions that i just mentioned are not fulfilled, and this some kind of er trap for us until well we are working on it yes now we have several interested er former top employees of er military companies of large well you know yes that Silicon Valley it grew including from military projects and there is an office and raysion and honeywell and others of companies that started from the valley and draw talent from the same place where google and apple draw them, but uh, former officials of these companies are already looking closely at ukrainian projects in order to go there as aah from everyone to a consultant who will help them do something that will be able to be sold on global markets, this is the first and second, we already have e e examples of cooperation between Small Companies that produce nondrones and separately, for example , solutions for drones with companies that produce drones so that it is possible to involve these technologies, these developments for use in already in the existing large products that are supplied to various ministries of defense well, to sum up what i have concluded for myself most of the teams you spoke with create projects to solve such applied tasks for a short period of time what needs to be solved now and the number of Innovative Solutions that are present in these developments is actually minimal and the number of these real knowhows is not enough for our foreign partners there. Did business english people look at this market how to the largescale market, and they selectively choose those companies that can really see something there , some kind of grain, and then grow it to accompany it. , that is, 997 companies out of every thousand go bankrupt and now what i see, i see in us in the military raid much better than in the industry as a whole, because our engineers and developers have access to the front and they can test their solutions literally next week after they its there invented yes and this one these fast iterations that Development Testing refinement yes this is something that is not currently available in the world and we have a separate solution , well, for example, when you build a drone, a new drone cant do anything, well, they cant invent anything , because well, this technology is very old, but if you if you are developing, for example, Something Like a vision computer for existing drones, then you have very big advantages over them. Well, for example, they already have american companies, in which the cycle of iterations takes weeks, not weeks, and months by hand, and ours can test very quickly, that is if such large projects are moving very slowly in our country, there is really very little innovation there, in the elements and in small teams that solve small but very difficult tasks that have not been solved now. There is a broth that is boiling and from which i see a very large number of very interesting examples, and i could cite certain examples, because it is, in particular, a Forest Company where your friend Anton Skrypnyk is, who creates things there, and robotic platforms and others that now have their sights set, including on the foreign market in these directions are promising robotics. Such things, yes, everything. Look, everything has prospects, and we now have such an interesting situation that in some areas, there are questions. And we are a ukrainian manufacturer. It may have some shortcomings. But if you compare it with our global competitors, we are already using them at the front. Yes, we will not test them on the training ground, we are using them at the front. They have combat operation and they have feedback from the military, and we have already done trials can somehow break er break some stereotypes, yes, and even classic schemes in military business, but i must note that the projects about which we are so interesting now , they did not originate in er, not during the war , well, for example, if you look at the same skrypnyk these are projects that are several years old, yes. And there. Well, i even, uh, companies that make drones there. Okay, something that flies and is related to that. Well, when i ask. And when you first heard about started doing something uh. Usually this is after the start of the war, and that means there are people who have been working on this topic for a long time and they did their race on the rake, but there are people who are just starting out, and if i see a very big opportunity for cooperation here, by the way, yes, because people who have a job can attract enthusiasts who have a keen eye, yes, they can create innovations before the war there not the military, and now i see this synergy in several projects. It works very well , mr. Anderson. Thank you very much for such explanations for inclusion in our broadcast. I hope that we will continue our discussion in our next programs, and i will remind our viewers that we the interlocutor was denys longopolyi, a member of the Supervisory Board of the Ukrainian Startup Fund and the head of nest, and then we continue our program after the informational break, we will talk about what specific examples of Initiative Solutions have been developed by our other companies that also correspond to military hightech and conceptually are invested in those approaches that the United States is now trying to implement as part of its Replicator Program about this after an informational pause, pain can become an obstacle to walking up the stairs not with my knees for pain in the knees try the dolgit cream that relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves the mobility of the joints, you can even walk the only yellow cream for pain in the joints, it is difficult to talk about what you feel when you have urinary incontinence, an unpleasant situation can arise at any time, even with a slight effort, fortunately this is behind me , uro feminost helped me thanks to the natural ingredients, uro feminost helps restore control over urination day and night. 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I do not know if you have familiarized yourself with these approaches of the american parties within the framework of this program , the replicator of the new initiative, it assumes that the United States has drawn conclusions from the hostilities in ukraine and has made a bet on the fact that in a short period of time all its troops there and on the ground in the air with a large number of small autonomous robotic platforms and they believe that this will be the answer to the superiority of the chinese in particular who are outnumbered there and in terms of equipment and ships and manpower i would like you to evaluate these approaches and how we we can extrapolate the same approach to what our side and our armed forces have to do in the longterm struggle with the russian federation, and perhaps even in the shortterm perspective, your assessment of such an initiative by the american side absolutely correct and its time and the experience of combat operations in ukraine just shows that in order to fight with meat from that side it is definitely necessary eh combat eh operationalized platforms and fully autonomous but how would we have such a trend so far eh in principle a working Autonomous System is the 21st century. Russia came to us with the war. Autonomous systems therefore p on the american side, this is an absolutely correct approach for them as a countermeasure, for example, to the chinese, mr. Eduard, you have quite interesting developments that really correspond to the approaches that the United States is currently trying to implement this is a significant number of small platforms of various purposes, at the last meeting where you and i were at the ministry of defense where different versions were considered. You showed such a demonstration video where it was about the directions of your companys work. I will now ask our directors to show a part of this video where we are talking about interesting samples ranging from ee battle pods to other things that were very necessary now when we are freeing these formatting structures of the enemy, if these battle boxes were there, then in fact the liberation would be much easier, please comment on this decision, which would be presented to the video, well, our route of our company is the first, it is the creation of the concept, that is, it is the animation of the solutions that we want to implement in the future, the next thing is the final project, and the implementation of the prototype. There are Many Solutions for us. And uh, we uh , as it were. They say that during this 8 km, everything is monitored and every object becomes a moving target, therefore , about two years ago, we changed our concept and began to earn money from a small industrialized platform. Kamikaze of small systems dwarf and this is a Promising Development of the type of kolobka combat i would like you to explain to our viewers because everyone now we will say oh animation is such a thing that has no relation to reality tell us about the projects that you already have exist, how they are used, so that there is an understanding that in fact, under the solutions that we now see in the animation format, there is a significant background technological and scientific basis that allows creating various samples of robotic platforms that are already are used by our units in certain situations where by replacing the cover, it is possible to change it to a mine disposal system or, for example, with an rpg installation, that is, a quickly replaceable cover allows you to change its platform appointment well, yes, but what are the problems facing the company now from the point of view of scaling certain samples, because as i understand it, a prototype can be made, and tests can be made. Specialists that from your enterprise in this sense. How do you scale production, what do you depend on now . Whats stopping you, look at us super since 2015, we started doing Unmanned Systems first we had a lanos, then a kraz portan, eh, a scorpio caressing this is a working platform well, how would it be we have already worked out a certain one for ourselves, it is clear that the elemental base changes over the years and er well, we constantly monitor new systems and mmm we use definitely high quality processors for this matter and er we try to optimize er optimize production, our production, it is clear that there is not enough financial support, yes, and we will write it so that it can be put into service. Here we are now putting one of our systems into service. We had very good feedback from our guys at the front, and thats why we constantly hit this system. I think that in the near future it will appear in other units, and heres another direction that you mentioned from the very beginning, thats right remotely controlled all types of weapons and military equipment. I once asked you in a Previous Program about whether the military has any interests in this direction, because it seems to me that this is quite such an urgent need when we mention that our guys are there. They are taking on the enemy there. The tanks load it into me with explosives and direct it to the enemys defense line, and at the same time, the mechanic and the driver take a risk at some stage. Developments regarding remotely controlled systems for adapting them to mediumsized models, what is happening with this now, and we are literally in the near future, yesterday they even sent a letter to the ministry of defense now, here it is in the reception , it should be there, its just the modernization of armored personnel carriers and bpp on of the subject of hybrid control, that is, pilot and unmanned control with the possibility of Remote Control. They came out with such an instaty five years ago and suggested that every combat vehicle is like what i said or an infantry fighting vehicle. They must have hybrid control because mmm when they go into a breakthrough, the first machine can be completely Remote Controlled. This is not mandatory. On the radio channel it was possible to have infrared control eh, here, eh, i hope that now they are painting it, and i think that in the near future there will be a remotecontrolled system, and we have very remotecontrolled machines, eh we started quite big with the report, that is, we did it back in 2016, now these are cars, cars, and from such equipment it looks like a tank, this is a construction machine for demining, and by the way , now the question arises, what kind of control range can be ensured remotely with your devices, how is it affected by enemy rap, does it complicate the management of such platforms, which are so little , look at the Technical Details of this initiative. Which is controlled, of course, on these frequencies, rap can be operated, well, we do, as it were, a simple system, so there can be a second channel, if the writers radio control , we also have robotic platforms that are controlled by optical communication, that is, well, i tried it near melitopol, thats where thats in the area of 2 km, uh, optical connection its like a practical bundle of carcass its like consumables, that is, the robot can then return home by itself. So far, the technologists also used it, we also used starklin for control, but how would it be, and uh, we still have for development this removal of the radio signal source from the operators in order to save life to the operator himself which was literally a minute before that, where it is said that the robot is demining a certain area , is your Company Moving in this direction, is it possible to somehow use a gnome or another small platform to detect enemy mines or there to set mines, etc. You are here, and your engineers have the initiative to create such samples. To move it to the side, that is, to remove it from the road, as they say, because they are simply scattered on the roads and sometimes, er, our advanced units do not see them. Uh he wants to simply remove it, it can be uhuh, how to say uhuh, suspended by fire, and for this purpose, this is the platform that we created so that it would be possible to approach and uhuh, remove the side of the permissible antitank tm 62 km. And these robotic platforms were gnome at the exhibitions, we all saw it from the point of view of production, but now , under current conditions, they are expensive and expensive for the customer. And i believe that the more such robotic platforms there will be, the easier it will be for our warriors to hold the defense or go on the offensive, that is, always ahead , that is, we are the forerunners of such a mosquito doctrine, that is, small ones small robots that perform a certain role, it can be robots that take on themselves, for example, eh , here are eh, antipersonnel minutes, for example, and they themselves a minute or эtо можеt быtь реведчики here and also, er, we are now working on er, such swarms of systems, er, mouse technology, that is, well , extending the transmission of communication between objects, er , for example, direct Remote Control , direct control, it is small it is somewhere around 600 m in order to increase the range, we use a drone on which we hang a repeater and how to tell the distance in this way, actually up to the tricks of kilometers, here is the application, for example , we have one system, this is starlink yes to this is also possible remotely, then from any point, and we just think that this is an interesting solution, the use of star link, so to speak, to control the battle. Here, you can solve many social tasks. The frontline received a certain wound, they can just erer with new technologies being erer far away erer how to say erer in the rear and help their brothers erer who is on the front line now there is such an interesting trend that is exactly what is going on wars полувившие ее some things ее can participate ее and continue to participate in hostilities. This is precisely the removal , that is, the fact that they can be operators of robotic systems, i am always at home there with physical limitations, but to participate in hostilities is precisely due to the inclusion of those robots that fight as part of combat units where they previously served in such a solution, we want to implement it and i would like to ask about the initiative with models of military equipment, you put forward an initiative to create models in particular, and there also leopards other samples that cannot be distinguished from the real ones, so they can still move , what about this, is there any interest in this ministry of defense, look, well, usually, in order for the ministry of defense to have a second official rule of interest show the animation how we do it yes, but the next step is to have at least a prototype, as we are now engaged in this question literally next week the project is autonomous active , as if a mannequin for tank prototypes. Yes, this is a leopard type, we are just now finishing it. Eh, the car is not preaxle, it will be exactly the cap based on the form eduard. Thank you very much for this conversation , it is extremely interesting. I think it was interesting to our viewers. I hope for our future meetings with our i would like to remind the viewers that Eduard Trotsenko was on the air of someone from the press , cofounder of the general director of infocom ltd llc, which develops a number of robotic platforms that are already used in the armed forces. The main conclusion is that the Replicator Initiative currently underway in the United States is quite adaptive and for our armed forces we simply need to ensure more attention to in this direction, to provide support for our companies and to ensure the scaling of those samples that are already available to our young or professional manufacturers and developers , these are the conclusions from this, as for me, interesting military program, and then stay on the channel of the process, where there will be more interesting and International Economic news. Greetings, dear tv viewers, this is news with you. Anna yamalnikov, this issue begins with the situation at the front. Andriivka in Donetsk Region has been released, but active fighting continues in the direction of bakhmut, the deputy reported minister of defense hanna malyar, the situation around the city, according to malyar, is ambiguous on the northern flank of the armed forces, they are gaining positions and heights that the enemy wants to return, but on the southern flank, our soldiers are moving forward, but the price is very serious, malyar explained , but on the zaporizhzhia direction, the enemy