Recalls on this day, they decided to go to yaroslavs parents, who lived nearby, for a while. So everyone together wanted to think about further actions. There were already traffic jams on the roads. Just spend a few days together as a whole family and then watch the development of events. The apartment of yaroslavs parents was located near azovstal, which was the number one target for the enemy. Every day , Russian Troops were getting closer to their goals, destroying everything that happened on their way, staying in the apartment became more and more dangerous, so the couple, together with yaroslavs relatives, moved to the basement of the shelling without interruptions, without pauses, that is , it was just a massive shelling, it was even scary to go out. Well, there well, i say through a couple of houses because you dont know whats going on there anymore. On april 22, the Russian Military entered the basement where the family was and called all the men. We woke up in the morning to the fact that they were calling all the men upstairs to check their documents. They checked the passports of some, undressed them and looked for traces to make sure there were no bulletproof vests, they started making a list by surname of everyone who was in our house in the basement and said that everything the next day we will evacuate you to a safe area in victoria, with yaroslav there was no choice or to die or to leave for russia, in fact there were no other options to stay, there was no place where our houses would be destroyed, so we decided that we had to go to that filtering to just try to leave altogether the next morning, the socalled russian volunteers provided several buses for departure to the peak of russia. Yaroslav and viktoria together with their relatives got into these buses and went to the first point of filtration. At the beginning, they brought us to the village of basimina. There was no temporary accommodation point in the old school when we entered this point there. At the entrance, there were military personnel, they checked documents during the inspection. Yaroslav said that he served under contract as a dog trainer in azov until the 19th year. It should be explained that in russia the azov regiment is recognized as a terrorist organization after hearing this, the Russian Military immediately took his passport and gave the data to the socalled top management of the fsb, we did not return the passport and told them to wait for him to be taken for questioning, the filtering lasted the whole day, so all the people who were in the occupation buses were sent to spend the night on the territory of the school at night by the occupiers they came for yaroslav and took him away at night on the first day of april 24. It was easter itself, so of course i remembered that day. Russian military without any explanation they took yaroslav outside the school viktoria was confused, but believed until the last that yaroslav would be returned in the morning, but this never happened. Then, at any cost , the girl tried to find out where the occupiers took her beloved. The city would have simply shot him and not analyzed himself in this matter. Victoria could not understand why the occupiers took yaroslav away from her, because even during his service, yaroslav was an ordinary dog trainer, not only did the boy never keep he didnt even have a military rank, there was no reason at all, just that he served in azov, that was enough for them when victoria realized that despite all the explanations, the occupiers would not let yaroslav go so easily, the girl still decided to leave for a safe area to be there we tried to help my beloved one more day there, but still hoped that he would return, maybe everything would be clarified there, but they would not let him go, i came to the bank and we understood that it would only be possible to help in kyiv if we leave, victoria managed to pass the filtering and go to europe through russia. When victoria got there, she immediately notified all the state authorities of ukraine about the disappearance of yaroslav and also enlisted the support of human rights organizations from the moment we arrived on neutral territory. I also wrote information about yaroslav, and the sbu contacted the police, as well as the red cross and the international committee. In other words , i was the first to do everything that could be done the news about yaroslavs whereabouts came to victoria anonymously, the man was about a week after his arrest and he informed that he was alone in the paradise Pretrial Detention Center and that he was most likely to be written in connection with the fact that the phone call came anonymously, victoria immediately addressed an official request to of the socalled Prosecutors Office in occupied donetsk and received an official confirmation in response, then already in august of last year, i started to write an appeal to the Prosecutors Office of the dpr, and then we received the first letters where it was recorded exactly what was really there he is in the donetsk season, he was there for almost a year, after a while victoria managed to find lawyers for yaroslav , the lawyer informed victoria of an article that the occupiers managed to incriminate yaroslav with participation in a terrorist organization , a violent establishment of the authorities, that is, they are trying to expose him as an active military officer, about what the occupiers deliberately want to pass civilian prisoners off as military became known after this video, which spread through propaganda telegram channels, the events are taking place in rostov, in june of this year, on video, a Court Hearing on the dock together with the soldiers of the azov regiment and civilians who were in azovstal. During the occupation of mariupol , among them were women who worked as cooks. And here is yaroslav. I knew when it would happen here, i knew that he would be there, but i did not expect that it would be so revealing, that there would also be reporters that it would be such a loud affair on this video. Victoria was able to see yaroslav for the first time in a year. She was shocked by the state in which her fiance found himself. The photos were very shocking, and with him because well, i understand. And how can he look . During all this time, it was difficult to watch because he was not always such a strong, healthy man, and he was in good physical shape. And in those photos, i just saw how he had lost a lot of weight, he must have lost more than 20 kg of weight, currently yaroslav is being held in the rostov Pretrial Detention Center , the occupiers accuse him of international terrorism, which threatens with imprisonment from 20 years to life imprisonment, the russians do not consider yaroslav a civilian prisoner, but they do not confirm his capture, his status interpreted as a defendant in a criminal case from the ukrainian side, he is a civilian hostage, and our authorities insist that civilians should only be released; today there are no clear mechanisms for the return of civilian hostages from captivity, because the russians illegally hold thousands of ukrainians in prisons without any grounds for their arrest, according to international law, the russians should release civilians without any umos and exchanges, but the occupiers deliberately fabricate cases against civilians and keep them in places not freedom. We hope that additional civilian hostages will be interested in International Organizations that will contribute to the return of civilian hostages home. Victoria, like thousands of other families, believes that soon she will be able to hug her loved one at home. It is very important to present these problems realistically, and it is with civilian captives to give great publicity, and civilian captives also have a chance to exchange they should all be returned to their Families Together with the National Police and the National Information bureau we are ready to help everyone so if you know anything about people in search, write to our email or call 102 or 4 48 p. M. In history by searching see whats on friday at 10 45 p. M. Look for and dont give up the chevrons approaching victory and another year when we dont celebrate but choose our independence another day when they are trying to deprive us of the right to be ourselves and one more instant of a terrible war that has been going on for centuries, but the whole world has already convinced us that our independence should not be trampled, not drowned , not burned, not shot, and the greater our hatred, the stronger our independence, the closer we prove our victory, independence every day if the engine of the heart of the plane is the soul of the person who keeps watch and when this soul is full of pain and anger the enemy will not be forgiven during the war our aviation made more than 14,000 combat sorties thank you for the fact that your wings cover our sky and may the number of takeoffs always equal of the number of landings glory of the aviation of ukraine to be afraid is normal and to admit ones fear is brave we need brave people update data in tcc bravery defeats fear one plus one continued the National Telethon at this time we are working in the format of a discussion platform the night watch in the studio is maria vasilievna, im yevhen plinsky, and the topic of todays conversation is Political Prisoners, political imprisonments, which since the beginning of the fullscale invasion, somehow their issues have been put on the back burner. We are focused on the return of our prisoners of war. On the territory occupied by russia since the 14th year, who were considered by russia as enemies and were imprisoned for political reasons based on the support of ukraine, but these people must be mentioned, we must talk about them from 24 in february, we talked a lot about the liberation of crimea, when the prospect of liberating the peninsula through military means was already looming, and there was such a hope that there was not after the signing of the minsk agreements, and we talk a lot about it and talk about what to do with the population that is mostly not loyal to ukraine, how to work with him. What fate awaits people who did not commit crimes but are still not loyal to ukraine, and these discussions have the right to life, but we rarely mention those people who, on the contrary, were very loyal and remained very loyal to ukraine and actually became prisoners and hostages of russia. It is precisely because of these views that we will talk about this in our studio. We welcome strategy 21 globalists. Thank you for visiting. Good afternoon, mr. Denys. I would like to ask you the first question. Give us the audience a picture of what is happening in the occupied territory of crimea in in the context of the persecution of the population that continues to support ukraine since the beginning of the war, to what extent has the terror that we have seen since the 14th year intensified, or at the time of the beginning of the invasion, all these problematic issues in quotation marks for russia had already been resolved, well, it should be noted the following first that today in the territory temporarily occupied crimea and the Russian Federation there are 186 Political Prisoners whom we consider to be Political Prisoners, of which 123 are representatives of the crimean tatar people after the fullscale invasion of russia already prepared for this and understood that opposition would grow, that is why she first started working among the Crimean Tatars and human rights defenders, since they are mainly human rights defenders, lawyers these are ukrainian tatars, there were and she gradually deprived them of their licenses, in particular, to date, after the full state, the author evgenia has been deprived of six lawyers who defended our selfconfessed prisoners, they limit the right to protect the residents of the temporarily occupied crimea , that is, these lawyers could be included in other processes for the protection of our citizens, in addition they immediately adopted an article called uh, prosecution for discrediting the russian army, as of today, there are already more than 4, about 500 administrative cases specifically for discrediting, this even applies to ukrainian symbols, ukrainian songs. In addition, there is already criminal responsibility for this according to this article, according to this fact, and they also bring the inhabitants of crimea to criminal responsibility as regards of administrative cases for discrediting, that is, crimea is temporarily occupied and is ranked the most for such cases , that is, it is in the top five for violating the administration of discrediting, in addition, regarding the strengthening of the influence and psychological pressure on the residents of temporarily occupied crimea who have a rightukrainian position, this was and illegal mobilization was introduced and used, which began in september 22, that is, they actively distributed summonses not only on the territory of this occupied crimea, but also the crimean tatar environment in the places where they live compactly, that is, if we take the number of summonses distributed, then in the places where they live compactly, they reached up to 80 . This does not mean that all of them were involved, but satisk and the majority of these people were forced to leave the temporarily occupied crimea. That is, it is also like a lever, like uh, this kind of nonexpulsion. And what they experienced in 1944, the deportation of the crimean tatar people, is another such modernization from the side of the russian occupier. Therefore, it is the same now the approach is the same methods and in fact these are the greatgrandchildren of the nkvd now. It should be noted that they are entering the autumnwinter period, which is the most difficult. Supported it. You can speak out because there are many problems of a socioeconomic nature that have accumulated during this period in the crimea, because of what she has saved there, she is intensifying her pressure, intensifying her work, and even you are already being persecuted after successful attacks on military facilities objects, it is from architecture, distrust is already in its own, i. E. Inspection of infrastructural objects is taking place and it is no longer at the level of the authorities, the occupation is also happening and it is also increasing persecution of not only rightwing ukrainians, already the population that once supported or was loyal to the Russian Occupation by the way complete, and i think that the Russian Special services really have suspicions that among the residents of crimea there are those who pass on data to ukrainian intelligence because there are really a lot of such quite successful hits in the we remember military facilities as novofederivka. Airplanes were burning, it was simply something incredible and many other facilities where the local population is actually located. It obviously helps ukraine to liberate its land, and on the other hand, i know that something started in crimea in 14 repressions specifically against those who were military and did not betray the oath, those who were in some way related to the security sphere , one of such groups was a group of socalled crimean saboteurs, actually scientists , actually scientists, the sevastopol group of the center is not a Nongovernmental Organization of the center the analysts name was nomosy, he dealt with Security Issues in the black sea region, thats right, mykhailo, a colleague of these people, this is dmytro shtiblikov, oleksiy besarab Volodymyr Dudka , if i havent confused anything, uh, and they and they , since the 16th year, these three people seem to have the reason is precisely because they were Ukrainian Military personnel. As far as i know, but by the time everything started, they were already retired. They seemed so dangerous to the Russian Occupation authorities in crimea, why did they organize such a hunt for them and were convicted under very serious articles, it seems like terrorism or Something Like that with articles for 15 years. That is, there are very huge terms, why were they so dangerous as the threat they represented well, come on i will make a little retrospect , a little, you correctly noted that in the 14th year , the repressions began on september 17, 9 years after he was arrested and received a term of 11 years of imprisonment in a strict regime colony, valentin a kyivan from vygiv who was engaged in thermal engineering but who became interested in aviation and came to the crimea in september 14th for an exhibition there and was detained there on charges of espionage and here are the 4 main cases that were promoted by the occupation authorities of crimea, these are the cases of a spy , a saboteur, a terrorist, and an extremist, extremism is more on the line of the Crimean Tatars, there is religious extremism, terrorist cases , these are socalled, this is kolchenko sentsov, and this is a spy. Black sea security is a case of saboteurs, the socalled saboteurs, it must be said that centnomos, which was founded in sevastopol back in 2003, and in 2005 began publishing the quarterly black sea security , is the only magazine in the region that was engaged in researching the security environment in the wider black sea region. A center and magazine was founded by exservicemen already at that time, they were practically exservicemen due to various reasons and in terms of health. For example, dima shtiblikov is just the one who received the most severe his prison term in 1998, he miraculously survived after a grenade exploded after a young soldier fired a shot incorrectly, he had to discharge all of this, he survived me of course , there was no question of further service. They attributed everything that can be attributed to the work of the Ukrainian Military there, as well as oleksiy besarabov, who , by the way, a colleague graduated, besides the fact that he was a military man, he served in the naval forces , but due to his health, he was discharged and graduated Kyiv Institute of journalism of the Kyiv National university and began to engage in journalism professionally, working there for shipping magazines in odesa and, accordingly, for the quarterly black sea security due to the fact that the noms center held regular conferences in sevastopol. These were traditional annual econferences. With the arrival of foreign participants, we were all under close attention uh, the Russian Special services, who felt free at that time, and so to speak , took all of us boys to task, which is what its actually called yes, before the annexation. Undoubtedly, uh, we made these measures open, and they calmly came there as well. Sometimes there were discussions, but as a rule, they sat and recorded. Thats why, in principle, it was already a preparation in essence when these repressive measures began after uh the occupation of the annexation of crimea is actually the body of implementation of this article, and who about the former military well, of course, the case of saboteurs and spies is just the star for us , yes, and taking into account the fact that just when i take different power structures that uh were in the autonomous republic of crimea, just the percentage of traitors of the Security Service of ukraine in the Ukrainian Branch was the highest. Please , in other words, structures and accordingly , if and theirs in quotation marks also contributed their contribution , what is called that is why, if and such long terms Oleksiy Bessarabov and Volodymyr Dudka remind Volodymyr Dudka that the captain of the second rank is already retired. He is the oldest of them, and he was the commander of the simferopol control ship. He and oleksii basaraba received 14 years in a strict regime colony. Dima shtiblikov received a term of five years at first, and then literally last year , another 19. 5 years, you again said at the beginning that there are almost two hundred Political Prisoners sitting in prisons with everyone has his own special terrible story of trumpedup charges of imprisonment do we now have the opportunity to somehow build communication for the exchange of the return of the ransom there, well, there are different scenarios, does russia go to this or that cooperation . Do we even have the opportunity to extract Political Prisoners because what to consider is there the interests of russia are given to the occupied territory, well, they dont need those people. They dont keep them in prison so that they arent free, because i dont see any problems for them to give them in exchange for some Russian Military there in todays under the conditions of whether such communication takes place, it should be noted that this work has not stopped at all since the 14th year of the First Political prisoner, but it is very difficult , especially after a fullscale invasion, and here it must be divided into several factors , firstly, the inhabitants of the temporarily occupied crimea are recognized in the community, the Russian Federation recognizes them as its citizens, that is, they say that we do not change ours, do not exchange them and do not communicate in any way, this is the first thing that the Russian Federation presents as , besides, despite this, they, uh, a lot of crimean flights prisoners are being deported, even though now they already feel that the armed forces of ukraine are approaching and the development of the event may be negative for them in the near future, this is what they also foresee. Those who are convicted under political articles on the territory of the Russian Federation, again not to go to communicate ukraine, in turn , you did different variants of exchange, that is, not all of them, they finally reject it, they offer women, they offer sick women , elderly people, sick people, elderly people , none of the variations rejected also, at every meeting at the highest level of the president of ukraine, the verkhovna rada, as it is now the parliamentary platform , lists of these persons are also discussed and issued in order to the communications of the foreign side with the russian side are transmitted and paid attention to. The Parliamentary Assembly plays to europe asked for access to what it should be noted that after 2014, even Nongovernmental Organizations, International Organizations do not have access to Political Prisoners in the territory of temporarily occupied crimea due to complete isolation, their relatives had and had lawyers, now they have limited even the exchange of lawyer information, all cases are classified, which makes it impossible for the lawyer or to prosecute him recently, there have been reports of complaints from relatives that even relatives are not given access to the political, well, to their relatives , and they cannot get this information, and all the information is very limited, and it has become very difficult to communicate with them in order to understand what the situation is. To note that regarding the temporarily occupied crimea, after the fullscale invasion, people began to be transported there en masse from the newly occupied socalled kherson territories , a very, very important issue, lets return to it after a short break, very important the topic for a few minutes and well, lets get back to the conversation, the chevrons that bring victory closer and another year when we dont celebrate but choose our independence, another day when they try to deprive us of the right to be ourselves and another instant of a terrible war that has been going on