A single problem. Because now its extra time its like football. If i collapse out of exhaustion it makes no sense anymore. And also coming up on the program the u. S. Administration says that it will lift a ban on importing hunted animal trophies more coming up on that a little bit later in the show but first the high stakes haggling over germanys next government is and over time tired and tense to go see it ours have been back at the table after a selfimposed deadline passed im going to merkel has been trying to form a government with the probusiness for democrats and the greens there is Little Common ground for the unlikely bedfellows but there is no other option for the german chancellor if the parties cannot Work Together she could face a fresh election that is likely to further weaken her position and it could even cost her the chance laurie. Another round of difficult talks at the c. D. U. Party headquarters the negotiators are coming off a long night with no concrete results much is at stake for you to reach an agreement could mean new elections but chancellor merkel says shes determined not to let that happen villain despite all the difficulties in these negotiations i am determined to form a government as mandated by germanys vote as they definitely wont be easy itll definitely be hard but its worth going into a second round of talks. That by in a while so that in this enormous. We all realize we have to make compromises everyone so far that hasnt happened enough. This is especially applies to those who declare to the outside world that theyre making all sorts of concessions but from what i see rumi sit down together theyre not going to get some of his. Remarks clearly aimed at Germanys Green Party is a hoffa c. S. U. In the greens are at loggerheads on many key issues including migration and energy policy. But what we cant allow is that someone says i want discussed that you know everyone has to negotiate otherwise the talks dont make any sense in. The fourth player in the negotiations germanys liberal f. D. P. Are also set on a positive outcome hes a consulates a new coalition at a federal level in germany could mean a new beginning in terms of policy. And we hope very much as free democrats that the other parties are bold enough to try it and. The four parties had hoped to have already finished with negotiations but with one selfimposed deadline now missed many expect there to be moved long nights ahead. Lets get more now on these negotiations were joined in the studio by political scientist christophe when he joins us here in the studio as i mentioned youre from the Free University in berlin and thanks for being here thank you for having me. What would you say why is this been so complicated forming a coalition between these three parties its new ground normally we have two parties now we have three arguably with the way the studio in d. C. As you have been arguing with each other even the four parties so just the sheer number of parties is higher but also the overlap in terms of policies its become much smaller than what it used to be there are some red lines that the s. T. P. Does not want to cross there are some red lines the green party doesnt want to cross that c. D. O. The c is you dont want to cross that immigration and so forth and that makes it very hard to come to an agreement i want to talk a little bit more about one of those red lines because we see one of them very starkly between the greens and Angela Merkels sister party the c. S. U. The variance especially when it comes to issues like migration and climate do you see any chance of compromise there. Its hard to say i think what we cannot underestimate is the level of pressure both of these parties are on from their own base to see as he was facing. State level election the green party has parts of its own base that are very very critical even of these coalition so they will have to sell it not just to each other but also to their own base that being said maybe there is room for agreement i mean the green party has already moved quite a bit on certain things like immigration. And may be if there is some level of give and take here agreement is possible after all but its we saw german chancellor Angela Merkel she set a deadline in fact of thursday night for this Coalition Talks the deadline is obviously come and gone how badly have these talks weekend her position as a leader i think they have weakened her somewhat but i think more to the point of showing the weakness that has already been building before. I think she has held back quite a bit in these negotiations she has done what she always. Which is stanback mediates. Trying to stay above the fray but i think this approach has not worked for us so well anymore and i think now in these last final hours she will have to be a lot more active to sort of reclaim some of that ground lets go to a different Case Scenarios first the Case Scenario which is not favorable for her that is the fact in the case that they are not able to form a coalition what do you see happening in that case well there is too technical possibilities on the one hand we could have a minority government for the first time but i dont think that that is very desired either by the voters or by the parties the other is really new elections so we will actions how do those shake out. Its hard to see the winners and whos the loser who are the losers its difficult to say if you look at polling data right now basically a new election would be exactly like the old election so a couple of months down the line well find ourselves exactly where we are now but of course elections have a habit of shaking things up a little bit and i think depending on who gets blamed for the failure of the Coalition Talks none of the current parties who are negotiating will come out looking well so this will favor the outsiders day the far right party but also maybe the s. P. D. And the link so lets go for the this Case Scenario which is perhaps more favorable for Angela Merkel right now that is in the case that she is able to form this coalition is it viable candies parties Work Together i mean theyve never done so on the National Level before it will be tricky but i do think that if the agreement can be reached and if the bases are on board. It will be political suicide for any of those parties to torpedo and undermine the coalition i think what greater danger is that depending on the policies that do in the end get implemented that maybe voters do not like the coalition so much. And more the cloud of uncertainty that has been hanging over the German Government just generally speaking i mean four weeks of political talk still no government in sight what has that done to germanys position in the European Union what has it done to germanys position in the world i think for the time being things still look ok i mean she still can attend International Events but of course german leadership does look weaker now. We have seen this already with talks about greater integration and regardless of how these Coalition Negotiations shake out they will probably not go ahead as planned and i do think that may undermine german prestige in the long run so i want to thank you very much for joining us this evening to share a little bit of your insights on these Coalition Talks which as we mentioned they are and over time still no consensus to be found and certainly no sign of it kristoff now when political scientists from the Free University in berlin we appreciate. The games up that is the message to zimbabwe as president from the countrys influential war veterans but despite last weeks military takeover Robert Mugabe is resisting pressure to resign even from his own party mr mugabe has been under house arrest for the past few days but on friday he made his first public appearance since the takeover. Surrounded by security Robert Mugabe attends a Graduation Ceremony on the outskirts of the capital in his presence is tradition but given that hes been under house arrest many were surprised to see him the press reported that my guy who normally travels in a luxury vehicle misquoted by a large motorcade arrived in a civilian car. In a statement made on National Television earlier the military said it was engaging with. Its also released photos showing a meeting Zimbabwes Army chief and two South African envoys who had flown in to mediate reports suggest Robert Mugabe is refusing to give up the presidency. Tanks have been occupying key positions around the capital since the military takeover but theres been no violence and the situation is quiet. I was scared because i thought the army was going to cause havoc but as you can see its peaceful in the country. Now which is where its business as usual. When we just. Do it but we know many. Brits are. We are a bit. Fearful at first but now everything is normal and its business as usual. Macabre has ruled zimbabwe for nearly forty years analysts suggest the military takeover was to prevent me from handing power to his wife grace she has not been seen since the military took control. And for more on the situation in the country lets bring in zimbabwean journalist ray and joe who is joining us from the capital harare so the fact that mugabe was able to leave the house today attend a ceremony how do you think that we should interpret that is the military changing their position that he must resign. Well thank you for having me. I think the. Interpretation of the events of today signify the fact that can appreciate the fact that the military is simply trying to continue weve. Given the situation in which we find ourselves in and youre also remember that president obama is actually the chancellor of all state universities and so by having him i tend this Graduation Ceremony or to simply. The message to the world in three or four at large that its business as usual which is what the miniature would like to send out absolutely and we want to get a little bit more about that message that the military would like to send out i want to play a sound bite from the head of the influential War Veterans Association and then get your take a look there after on what he had to say have a listen theres no way that. The moments you. Use what was a little bit of. Good. Luck would blow up. We dont want to be disposable. So a message there implying that there could be civil unrest if there is a restoration of the old order how afraid do you think the people are that this could end up in violence. I dont think that any fear in our at the moment or in the country in general. And the fear of links to it and outbreak of violence in fact its actually the opposite that. A lot of excitement in the. People a feeling that somethings about to happen this march that has been called tomorrow by the war veterans something that you are looking for today and people have been biased and having transportation from different parts of the country to attend. My. Pool of people which are both of been given the green light by the military that is long as the fall of the lay down rules in the constitution they fully support it so in fact you know no fear. Of some sort of on risk of breaking out you know but on the other hand people excited and hoping that tomorrow would show a new dawn and see president obama got to finally hearing the voice of the people and the people actually being heard for the very first time in in in in in nearly four decades of who lets talk a little bit more about that voice the people because we know that there were protests last year they were focused on were pression poor Government Economic crisis are these still the biggest problems in the country today. But i still remain very much. Big problems and zoom up with faces but i think right now the attitude that most people that ive spoken to is to take it one day at a time and deal with what they can deal. And then the current focus and attention by and large is that we need to get prison report out and you know the military has intervened for the first time you know president mugabe is looking very weak to the weakest in fact that his rule is if i look in that period you know but it is not lost on peoples minds you know that much things to grapple with but i think that its seven years really this is what people are focusing on and saying look if we can get him out you know then we can get to the next stage and the next stage and the next day top to it so its more or less like releasing it one day at a time and really focus with this Current Situation that faces the country but there are so many amps that i mean one of only one of them is if he will resign the other is that every potential successor of mugabe right now would basically have been an integral part of his decades long regime so would mugabes departure bring any real change to the contradicting. I think it is a departure quite significant actually god because you know you know that hes pursued a very hardline stance against foreign governments especially within governments you know hes refused to back down under those edge of indigenization very much seen as being on a t. M. I. Too attracting investment in the month of forte and it seems mostly read equaling backwards and losing traction as. It is in economic clear within the region so the sense in the fitting that broke hes very old time is done he can do anything significant we can fail to have done you know thirty seven in that that is seven years that hes been in power so they have a feeling that you can live having someone else different or from sort of trying to seize an old boy which can take charge of the country in the long as it can provide some sort of you know present in the room or from leg room for the baldwins of headed up you know right to the nose with president mugabes so be it range over with the very latest from zimbabwe where you are a journalist we thank you very much for speaking with us this evening. Animal Rights Groups are criticizing u. S. President Donald Trumps administration for announcing that it will allow the importation of body parts from african elephants shot for sport in zimbabwe and zambia the move will reverse a prohibition imposed under former president barack obama the Administration Says that the trophy hunting will help conservation efforts by raising money for programs. The Worlds Largest land animals known for being intelligent and social but theyre also classified as threats and thats why conservationists a furious at the trumpet ministrations decision to allow hunters to bring elephant trophies into the u. S. Elephants are in dangerous decline and its outrageous that the trumpet ministration is greenlighting trophy hunters to go into zimbabwe and kill elephants. Floated for that talks poaching is the main reason for the decline in elephant populations. The Obama Administration banned imports of illegally hunted ivory and all the elephant parts in twenty fourteen now the ban is being overturned and the u. S. Fish and Wildlife Service claims this will protect the endangered species allowing hunters to kill the animals would raise money for conservation. The agency also says zimbabwe are able to manage hunting quotas and track revenues. But conservationists are questioning the timing zimbabwe is in the midst of a political coup its government isnt up here of all its in crisis and we know from in times of up people that poaching increases and theres no way for the government to effectively manage hunting much less rein in poaching a growing number of countries including china and singapore banning the trade in ivory campaigners fear the white house decision is a setback in global efforts to protect endangered wildlife. And joining me now from San Francisco is Peter Knights executive director with the Environmental Organization wild day peter thanks so much for being with us. Good evening. I just want to begin by drilling into the logic of the u. S. Fish and Wildlife Service they say that large sums which are paid for permits to hunt the animals that they could actually help them by what they say putting much needed revenue back into conservation what do you make of that argument yeah i think the piece was conflating two Different Things wally is the commercial ivory trade which is crude to be an absolute disaster for a sort of the us and the other is trophy im saying which might not sound very different but in fact it is a different drive economically people on sick want to spend for the trophy theyre not commercializing those trophies and this is been part of conservation for many many years and the fish and wildlife well actually only they would undo it up than theyd actually restricted only zimbabwe and zambia whereas other countries like south africa and it may be aware allowed to export not ivory for commercial purposes but tracy lets talk a little bit more than about the trucking on day because you said that that is the case which is the political here why has the u. S. Been allowing elephant hunting trophies in south africa and. In the maybe as you mentioned but not zimbabwe and zambia. Well theres been a question of the management in those countries so the management has been in better shape so if to south africa for example most that parts are actually fenced or out theyve had very little coaching going on theyve had very good idea of the numbers about since theyve had and theyve set quotas that reflect those numbers so you know if you have i think zimbabwe house about eighty thousand out of that says saying only five hundred only that theyll allow to kill the trophy im saying so its all about the question of how well managed is its and in many cases where hunting has been well managed has actually helped conservation exploited revenue for n. Z. Poaching and things like that its not always the case but that they make is fine because they feel that sense zimbabwe now has axed its act together on this however i do agree with the earliest speak of that given that the state of politics in zimbabwe this might not be very good timing to open this up again but in principle though you seem to be agreeing with the logic if im understanding you correctly that if it were managed correctly that it would put money back into conservation can you give us any examples of where that has worked its worked in south africa is largely the south africa model its worked here in the United States where money sprigs on from duck hunting has gone back into acquisition of habitat and indeed the earliest conservation efforts most of the National Parks it up were originally unsing reserve so theres a strong tradition of hunting within conservation no matter i mean because the icon is done well and you wont want to shoot one of these animals but it has been providing revenue for conservation in africa and if we want to get away with tonnes weve got to find other ways to generate revenue to protect these animals ok lets talk about the other aspect that you are talking about the two that you say are often conflated them they should not be that is the fact that there is this commercial ivory trade and we understand the your work it actually focuses on reducing the demand for these animals how exactly do you do that and is that really the key to conservation what you say. Absolutely well we have to map a point of view the problem has been commercial ivory trade which has led to the poaching up to thirty three thousand elephants a year and weve been working in countries like China Hong Kong and taiwan to basically try to persuade the governments that stock the legal tried which has been used to launder illegal ivory and so theres been Great Success there all those countries are now ending the commercial ivory trade and the demands gone down considerably so the price of ivory has gone down from around two thousand dollars a kilo to three of four hundred dollars a kilo now so its definitely working the seizures going into china down by eighty percent last year so were definitely seeing great progress on this and thats the illegal trade the poaching the commercial trite as opposed to trophy hunting im hearing a bit of optimism in your voice is is that correct i mean are you optimistic about the survival of these animals about their state well weve seen already these effects of the reducing price of ivory has led to the poaching go down by about fifty five percent in tanzania in the last year seventy five percent in kenya and thats been a combination of better enforcement on the ground but also reduction in the market and consumption so traditionally conservations been about protecting our wills in the wild but weve now started to impact the markets and weve seen Great Results from impacting those markets and the reduction in poaching which is obviously the gulf. Peter knights. Wild aid we thank you very much for telling us a little bit more about trophy hunting the commercial ivory trade everything that goes along with it thank you so much for sharing your expertise this evening thank you. Well here on news the day is nearly done but as ever the conversation continues online you can find us on twitter either f. T. W. News my handle is at sarah kelly t v and dont forget you can use the hash tag the day we will leave you now with a preview of this years festive Christmas Market and copenhagens top tourist attraction to bully gardens enjoy well see you again soon. It was big this and become one of the great things those sports history lets be honest fifty years ago Katharine Switzer became the first woman to run a marathon. I was only going to boston to run. The pioneer and role model to this day the marathon women. The long run to equality. They are the hope of many them are. 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