But it cannot be put totally team. The companies that fast, that the board of us in the effort needs to be shared by fold beautifully. And also on the day is one of the worlds frozen conflicts about to erupt. Again, russias invasion, if you trade means tensions of the disputed nikoto kind of back region rising again. So hes got, once we understood what russia really wants and ukraine, we knew we had to commit to your current and i them because they are fighting for all of us today. Oh, great. If key calls then and youve so union with a manager to correct. Thats one person is hoping for them to us. Welcome to the day, the italian island of la medusa is under a state of emergency. After a Record Number of migrants arrived within 24 hours before these have already transferred. Many of the more than 6000 arrivals to officially, the Reception Center on the island is only designed for 400. Lining up in the midday heat, of waiting to be transferred to cecilio the mainland. The migrants arriving by bay till new tale and island developing producer have high hopes for the future in europe. Leon, for i will go to france. I want to go to france to live at my dream, the energies, if i want to help out my family and i forget them after Corporate Team enjoy football is my passion. Thats why i came, i still got them, so it looks like what defective should be. But this tree may prove hard to fulfill front says integrity, administer recently announce pounds to seal the countries border with italy, in an effort to stem the influx of migrants. It leaves deputy Prime Minister my to solve any condemned what he called lack of solidarity from other european countries. Little the to uh, i set it at the beginning and i, whats happening and, and im producer, is the desk if you were to pick em all up inside of the baby, represents the desk. If youre, its political, social, and cultural, 5 years old, i guess because each of these alone, i just then add to this, the unfortunate timing with which berlin and powers have said they will close the boat. Is they to make sure . Yeah, well aid was the local authorities on them to do the struggling to provide sufficient food, medical care, and accommodation for the new arrivals. Many of him and now sleeping on make shift beds outside the Reception Center. Which has a capacity of only 400 people on the conditions, appraising too much for many of these right wing government has pledged 45000000 euros to them to do the to help the island best to cope with the migrant arrivals. Well, thats cool. Small health from other e u countries continues to go. 100. 00 counseling will out is director of your pain council on refugees and exiles and joins us from brussels. Welcome to dw is your upside to, to, to black and brown. My going to africa, afghanistan and syria. Difference too, is attitude to white microns from you cry. As i think weve seen a very different response in the case of ukraine, people have been allowed to cross the board a theyve been offered international protection. They have Free Movement within the u. And the immediately gone to the access to rights such as the right to what the right to education and so on. And this contrasts very strong clay, with the attitude towards refugees arriving from elsewhere, which is very much based on attempts to prevent arrivals of people, regardless of the cost and the consequences. There is, of course, a massive difference in just she. A numbers is that could that is thats part of the might not explain the difference in an attitude. What does it so far . Steel, is it because we would expect more struggle, more panic given the large numbers of people arriving from ukraine . And in fact, what we saw last year was an almost exemplary response to a major displacement crisis. Showing that even in the case of really large scale displacement arrivals of historically and globally significant numbers of refugees that youre on the you put mileage. So thats actually good news. And i think that means that in terms of responding to generally smaller numbers of people from other places, the reaction could also be a positive that things could also be put in place to make a h at to respond positively to the arrival of other refugees. The problem that youre has had base this issue of solid hours a week. Countries like italy and, and greece since that 2015, apparently leaving them to deal alone with what can seem like an overwhelming number of people. Why does europe have this problem with solidarity . As well, one of the reasons lies in the rules that exist under europes assign them system under the common your opinion, assign him system and above all the the raw, the infamous step and regulation, according to which the default country of responsibility is the country. First arrival, the place where people arrives. In most cases, the country will be responsible for the sign them up for cation and for hosting them as an assign them applicants and eventually as a refugee, if they receive protection. So that creates disproportionate responsibility for the countries at the boat is because just 3 geographic who fact people are more likely to arrive in those countries that big start a new boat is. And this rule has been criticized for many decades. But there isnt a significant attempt to change that in the absence of a change in the rule, then at the very least solidarity needs to be offered in times when large numbers of people are arriving or for particular circumstances such as in the case of search and rescue maritime arrivals. New Commission President s has called for more agreements. We have partner countries outside the blog to try and control immigration. Does that sound like a useful tool to have indicate that the agreement we took, he does seem to have slowed flowers from that direction. The agreement, weve tar keys in many ways, the next section and because of the particular relationship between the, even to k, the an agreement was put in place according to which president tied to one since then has been preventing people from primarily refugees. But preventing people from leaving from to okay and arriving. And you know, those kind of agreements have been tried with many, many other countries and very, i believe i filed the arrivals just this week and allow me to do is follow from a recent agreement with tennessee. Yeah. Which hasnt changed anything. And indeed, the, the agreement between a year internally or some would argue, has contributed to strengthening the position of president site into new jersey. And his attitude towards migrants within the country um towards the tennessee and population. And is one of the reasons why people are leaving, including the recent spiking of rifles, many of whom came across from shanicea on a we could see boats that, that they were the sponsors put them on to come over. Thanks for outlining that so clearly for us and catherine what off from the European Council on refugees and exiles so what i want to emphasize is that the investigation that the European Union plans to take is to protect its own industry to in the name of fair competition, this is blake and protection its behavior. Sure, truly water is what have a negative impact on china. B. U. Economic and trade relations. I was here. Yeah. Dont from time is coming us ministry responding to wednesdays announcement by the e. U Commission President. I was gonna follow the line that the commission is to investigate Chinese State support for its electric vehicle industry. Talked about the lines said the chinese vehicles are flooding Global Markets and that states subsidies while having a distorting effect. Weve given reason to an ongoing tensions between the European Union and the china is that most of a son Just Economics of peter machines. Shes director of the g o Economics Program at the american german institute. Thats a think tank of focusing on what it regards as the pressing issues facing those 2 countries. Welcome to to dw this by using have a point when is a q. Is this basically you of protectionism . No, i wouldnt see this as protection as ive see it more as a form of self defense. I mean, the fact is that under the rules of the World Trade Organization, countries are allowed to investigate whether one of their trading partners has been subsidized. Youre going to weigh the lead still in a fair, a competition and then also to impose tariffs or taxes on the imports from that country if they find that they, they have done that. So i think this is pretty much, uh, up and up. Okay, so this is what you would expect if i wanted to just looking at the future. Does the non china world have a problem coming up on its doorstep when it comes to the future of electric vehicles, given that china controls a so much of the production of the minerals and unwrap as needed for the Battery Technology for the a, the industry as well, i think thats one of the main motivations vine, the, the, announces me g u, there is a sense that there is a kind of one sided dependency that edu and as well as other advanced economies have on china. Because china, either directly or indirectly tools most through the inputs, the Raw Materials that go into the manufacturing of electric vehicles. And now we see that theyre also ramping up their production of the other vehicles themselves. And i think, you know, with the, you, theres, i thing on the one hand, a concern about fairness, about not having an unfair competition. But theres also concern that they, you know, the wants to be able to move to the green transition on his own terms. And in both of those cases, i think theres a sense that uh, too much dependence on china might get in the way. Right . So this route then, as i look at this, does this present germany with a particular di lan, with his car industry being behind in this, that technology and the technology. So your pin tyrus might be advantageous to germany, but then of course, china is a massive market for germanys exports as, as, who wants to know your biggest customer, especially a, during a, as a cost of living crisis. Or right, well i think, i think that things are changing and arrange a certain degree. I think one less than that, the German Authorities have bothered during government has, has drawn. And perhaps also Drug Companies are reading across from the, the russian invasion, ukraine and dependents on a gas in force that, that, that, that is brought to a kind of a head. They realize they dont want to get into that kind of dependence. If possible, getting into the future. And uh, you know, certainly automobiles are leading sector in germany. Its, its, its still the world you know, so competitive on a world basis. And there is a great hope that durham and companies driven Auto Companies can also play an important role. You know, in the next generation of electric vehicles course we have to remember that German Companies produced a lot of, uh, cars in china for the Chinese Market for export. And of course, if, if the you decides to place terrace on chinese export, it will also probably affect the exports of the German Companies that are making electric vehicles inside china. Okay. So if, if, if i forget sports, if you were to pay an export, is like germany all behind the, in the race and would benefit from these. Are you a ton of items . Theres also theres one side of dependency that youve talked about. What sounds like protectionism. I wouldnt call it, i really wouldnt call it protectionism. I think we have 20 sounds like that type of thing. No longer use g as well. I think the Global Economy is, is changing. I think theres a sense that while engaging and free trade on is important, its important to do that on the right terms. And that some of the rules are up to date and perhaps not, not all countries are being the rules, the same degree. And so weve seen in the your opinion over the last few years, an attempt on the one hand to maintain its emissions as wrong commitment to the w t o, the World Trade Organization as a rules based approaches the economy, but also at the same time to develop more tools that the you can use to respond to a Global Economy thats getting more conceptual to a Global Economy where there is more concern about values. Theres more concern about the effect of a climate change. And so theres a reconsideration. I think of the balance in trade policy right now. Okay, that us, we havent heard the last of that this times for joining a speech of a change from the american german institute. A media is holding Peace Keeping drills with us forces and made increasing tensions with neighboring as a by john over the disputed nicole. And im kind of back on play for 8 months as a by john has blocked a humanitarian passage called, indicating a colorado down the road linking to go on in the car, back with a media, 2000 russian peace keepers of failed to keep the comfortable open russian president Vladimir Putin says that on no problems we have on media, but when dw is usually where she also traveled to the region, you found that media turning away from russia and looking towards the west, bushed and po, mainly russian influence can be found on every corner here, the old over here as long as the armenian capital z, as that a russian restaurants and you can of the he has it awesome language. And no one who actually has historically been can see that eco, those political l i n friend off our medias. But the vets is changing on the streets of yet of them you only have good things about the old and every russians. Thousands of them live here now. Many came after the war ukraine started, young russian men fled to the country before they could be sent to war. They didnt need a visa to enter on media. My opinion live with the jacob, but we welcomed with the people with open arms, who fled perkins regime and who fled to warn you craned. No, we can now distinguish very clearly between the people in russia and the russian rulers. Russian rollers are evil. They are evil in a way that hums us and constantly puts us under pressure here. A thought epithet and another to understand with the change of hearts comes from the beats upon the and takes us to nicole in a kind of a region that both on media and neighboring as a by john, have been fighting over for decades. 3 years ago. This struggle escalated into more of a time yet. Yvonne was hoping for minute tree aid from russia, but nothing came of it as a by john ganes control feel media and government has since recognized as advice on sovereignty. Even going to come a box for the ceasefire has been fragile for 9 months as the by john has blocked access to the region from the on the union side via of a so called lushin coverage will now guard no car box stairs to ride behind me we cant go, and if so is that the road is closed. All of us there is also when an absolute state of emergency begins that is, according to eye witnesses. He also gave us this footage from the capital of nicole and i have a long lines outside stores, setting russians, bread, empty shelves, and pharmacies, and grocery stores. We are told that only ambulances are allowed through people, a cuts off from the outside world. The back of the, of a side this age con volley has been waiting to pass since july, armenians say Russian Troops are stationed in the region, but they only watch and allow the blockade to continue. As the vice on Officials Say that is a lie. They say it is possible to ends from back to one bad side, according to them, there is no blockade on this picture sort of the ink cartridge. You really like to have an impact to effect check that approach because we are living in the area of the fake news and this information unfortunately. And so we also, unfortunately see a lot of elements olds in a stage activities. And how does russia respond to the accusation . Its abandoned on me in the president , putin claims as the countries own forwards are true. What are we supposed to say about education . If im media exception, theyre going to colorado back as positive as a by john, because its not our fault is that imagine that mature limit for david zip on. Yeah. And putins woods, sound cynical, hes convinced moscow is deliberately weakening on media, which is war against ukraine has any strengthened his belief that at the point it showed the lights are cisco. Once we understood what russia really wants and ukraine, we knew we had to commit to your current. And i mean, because they are fighting for all of us today. Oh great. If key calls then and youve so union with a manager to correct. Thats one person is hoping for that. Well, at the point, jessica fix davi is depending on believes his country must seek new lies in order to completely detach itself from russia or vasa for say, you know, phase from the center of analysis of International Relations. And back to him as a by john, i put it to him that russia appears to have abandoned its support for our media, given that its piece capers and stood down in the machine, colorado. As you know, thats a domestic stick dish on because of its, i mean yeah, apparently expects from the russian side to pressure it against does it by sun and to make its claims pull pills by does it bite you on his side . But i saw at the moment, does not have death liberties against those that are by some to pressure it to all from deluxe myrtle beach. Both be in the best interest of your life as bill because the lessons all the by the russian side as well. Yeah, as you understand it, rush, it does just not have to have it doesnt have the influence in order to advise you on, in order to, to exhaust yourself in this way. Which of itself is quite an admission . Lets, lets move on from that. I mean, it was like, no, theres as advice on the software and say, opened the going of counter back to the outside world that looks like a sign that the media is prepared to reach a compromise with the government as a by john you know, unfortunately i did send boards of the ard meeting as side concerning the recognition of to cut our bodies and as part of was it by some of your correspond to each other just several days ago on 2nd of september, the Prime Minister part of media nicole pushing young, sent come to the of the troops convicts the length of a statement to separate of displacing a cut box and congratulated their independence for all the advice on the side. The back in 1990 but so depth and their mind told the shipments that we have already made in the Peace Process is our media mediated by the best buy, pick United States and your so on the one hand, se, se for you recognize us advice. Us the total integrity to be cut about part of it. On the other hand, they say no, it doesnt mean you know, the commission of cut up on the full silver digital positive. But so say its labeled on the independent side of it as a does not why as a by john has is continuing to block this left hand corner. Dont know if you want to did that had been was some part of minos move from kind of odd reason to uh, i mean, the way of deluxe rule, it does not blow it just lead me to taxes and it too late to visit the man. So does advice on his side from the uh, local uh, cit, Practice Division may not. I mean, yeah. Incredible. On the of the rule, this would provide shorter access to cut of buddies and where the silver 20 to 30 stuff was in by son as big as would uh, provide some crowns to all phone deluxe and draws onto the regulations custom sent for the replacements of does advise any government, but as far as limits have access just again, just to be clear as limited access from a media into nicole in a counter by but a direct access from as a by john that one sided. And this does not sound like the as a by johnny government. That is playing fast. If i can put it that way. As you know, a vibrating dist deadlock is related. Is the fact that after the 2nd cut above board, armenia, inside both the separatist division mean cut out bucks as big as doug meaning and government say, abuse deluxe and draw up to transfer me to, to the troops, to cut off as bit as to bring in more community a 5th month, despite the fact of last year in into life, the army and government promised to pull up its troops from cut off by reason, applied by september of last year of steel. We have all the 10000. 00 art of media troops on the ground and you cut off. So they basically use deluxe and cut the door locks in the road. And even last year, in november, the advice and the government documented wrong for tim part or is from your on beach verb parole, to cut our bodies as well, lots in the role. So it paused in massive security to sit at the against the advice i understand it gave no alternative, but put some equally strong check point on lots in the road. You know, to make sure that there arent media side. We dont use it as a secret to sit at the guest to sit by so it was vastly thoughtless. I know from the center of analysis of International Relations in baku, and that was the day i do make sure to stay in touch. You can follow up team on x for my notice to, to events at dw news or myself out filled out. And for the latest headlines as always, they dw up with the www dot com. Thats another phone be and talk to him on the day of the funding part of your day by the to the points. Strong opinions, clear positions. International perspective. Ukraine says its counter offensive is making games with autism approaching the clock is ticking. And meanwhile, russia is also facing grave shortages, could north korean holster rushes military, find out on to the point to the point next on d w and says the conflict. So i worry about the will of a when us to continue to do what needs to done strong was so my guess is ways to make those former deputy Supreme Commander in europe. I mentioned sure that theres a lingering feel that somehow we can go back to some sort of Status Program to russia. That is not going to happen to have a conflict in 16 minutes on dw, the really do 3 crime a i already told her lies entire societies computers that much of the governments that go crazy for your data. We explain how these technologies work, how that can make all world safe green. Thats how they can also go terribly. Now, heres the new created and says its counter offensive is gaining momentum and wont slow down even when bad weather hits. But a top us general says the window for success is closing with autumn, just weeks away. Risk james havent come easy. Defenses are deep ukraines forces have had to pick their way through mine fields and type stitches and take a considerable casualties underway. Western experts say theyve shown courage and adaptability but well need more