A feeling so single today on this with the hello and welcome back to the 77 percent strict debate this week. We are a library of the capital of monrovia. Now you might be familiar with the expression, strong african woman in this country, they suddenly having had a female president electronic johnson. But this strength in women is sometimes discouraged when he comes through a magic relationship, particularly the applicant contents sensitivity. Want to find out why, who better to accept this question for me that some late barriers. And were going to start with the couple on the panel. We have a couple this so loved up austin insurance. Hello. Thanks for joining us. So lets start with the basic question of your day to day when you wake up in the morning giving me a little clue about who does what in the morning, whats your morning routine, like since how youre really signing, let me start as well. Thank you. Um in the morning i wake up around 55 like 530 a get my kids ready for school wide. Hes dead getting ready for work. Okay. So would you say that your domestic responsibilities sort of equally split between the 2 of you . Yeah, it is. Yeah, but i mean, this is not something easy, right . A lot of couples have difficulties doing this even, you know, more than weld austin. How did you manage to strike this balance . I think it comes more with the level of education i got before getting into the relationship. So how do we couple of books before getting married . How to go to counseling for like 4 months. So he kind of prepared me. So basically im able to wake up Early Morning and get hot water for the kids. Im able to be bidding the little girl while she has to be ferrying corvette or something. So yeah, i think is good, and i enjoy doing you abraham, where are you . I know that you have a biblical name and also an old fashion stands on the concept of equality and relationships. Tell me a little bit about that. For me. I come with uh, african quarter background. Uh, and they are rude, described to men, both men and women. So if you know your responsibility and you know youre right and you know your limit, we can have discussion. And this, this can go on. All right, so that im not assuming anything. Tell me what these responsibilities are based on your roles, and by the way, were keeping it strictly headphone number 2 for the purposes of this conversation. Yeah. So uh, for instance, um, i believe that most of your 1st choices, you know, are offered in context. Uh uh, the responsibility of the women, but the make them be of help to let me tell you, im laughing because the women behind me are really saying you subject something then . Yeah, i would, i would like you to complete these. So you started by telling me womens responsibilities in their relationship i had turned over to one. Do all the Health Choice . No, i said, most of the risk response, most of your 1st choice is the womans responsibilities. So what does the man do then . You know, will i be when setting is the head of the home . And he actually is the one who provide security for the, for the home, for the family, hes responsible to, to, to provide for the home. Okay. Well nick, yeah. Who, who, who, who tell me, whats going through your mind because you were touching your fingers as he was speaking. I mean, i was, thats like that because weve got that when we disclose. You have like a equality relationship my thoughts as lily. And that was like, no, so now actually jerry, im defending what i stand for. Thats why im even jeremy. Oh, but the just my breast i christian nation for us this. So how does a man and the woman in the home that can be no, you quite a just so okay. Just for clarity or nikia here, definitely believes in the biblical rules assigned in christianity. And so you think that the mind is definitely the head and the woman should submit. All right, or tell me what youre thinking, the always a female is a feminist, and an activist knowing that liberia was set on the basis of peach. Iraqi just explains why they are a no saying these different things. But when you look at who said those rules, whos who give the responsibilities of a woman take in charge of the firm and doing the choices. You would know that the men said those rules and wish wed be leave with very buyers, right . Because womens potentially is way be your own, just taken care of home. So i think there is a very big inequality based on the foundation of picture actually that was set up in our society that sets our system to be very bias, right . I want to hear from some people at the back, right. Let me get some reactions. Come close to, to me please. I want to end the mass and you get caught me. So hust with just cool. Take care of somebody moving that, mary swift with you to this just to stick to the house. I want you and it is a bunch of people society. Its like, its going to be what it would mean. Yeah. Okay. Thats a good question that shes asked. Uh, lets have somebody else here. Im gonna try the smallest nice. Then it gives the each valve woman having equal or red remained a home. And i that is right, im here, the monroe if you had to defend our culture and woman was based on mississippi and nobodys still happy like that. The only reason why weve had the stimulus loving women, the i to visit it because of the other. Why that edition. So would you rather be just stayed at home once educated like thats the rule of the month. They have to be what they have to to give the house of the woman that the house of them. It is that thats, thats the best decent. Thats not quite sure why specialist, visually one as himself was as you about the other book culture. Ok. So quick question, im a woman here whos doing this job of asking questions, and moderating. I would say im independent. Does that bother you . A . Yeah, it, well maam, you know, african culture must not be defend and itd be like, youd have been in the african question. Why did you f one day us up in the many in the, in the vintage. What if i told you that in my culture, women actually be the heads of the home by so culture, you know, gods and that was said yeah, in the back onto the women that there was something missing. Lets hear from the people who was not being oh yes, i believe the minute the week. Yes. Being on f men of the weakest beings on us. Okay. So they use those rules totally met. We mean because we get more to the docs. We think of the professional 1st thing that can be a host wife, that can be a family person. Admin can do that. So the limit that you mentioned was seeing that you feel you are supposed to be on particular position for you too. And so are you a marriage or relationship is not that. Yeah. Okay. Uh uh, just just a 2nd. Let me just bring this uh group to back to order. Yeah. So that we can get to rooted back in our conversation. So there are a few issues that have been raised here, which i want to just check with. The 1st one is that african culture dictates that the mind is the head of the home. But this is not true across most african culture. In fact, most of them are matriarchal. So what happens to your arguments then abraham . So uh it might actually be argued that it is an african to be patriarchal. What were seeing, it is been taken out of context because um, and no disrespect or few minutes and a lot of people no, no disrespect. But that is a responsibility assigned to somebody. And that does not take away maybe your help or maybe a partner to my fiancee. But our african culture. It says that as far as route to everyone, so that role should be respected. And we shouldnt allow west in us to impose the quadrant understanding of what a family is, one of our present. Okay, so let me come back to the couple of the even holding hands. Let me tell you we are feeling so single today on this. So when you hear some of these a sessions, i can imagine that the muscles of the people in your family who also have hold similar views, committed assess the letters, you work up and you know, washed the dishes, you the man you work up. Just get ready for work and move on, you know, and then you start to follow that. I dont get a while as you do that, so were going to have the money. And what is the shop people . Is that on the moon you as a, me, you benefit a lot if those equality in the home. So i thing was you have that. So our, were grabbing was the shift is normal. It keeps, it keeps us happy. You know from that is, is a lot funny to your mother goes to visit you and dentist, easy. Washington dirty clothes. Shes like, why is my phone rushing very close . Okay. Yeah. So shuttle, let me hear from you. Did you get grief from the in laws youre making the sun wash . This is how they let, lets say this is quote, to have or healthy husband in the home is very, very good. It helps you relapse my wasnt was not ready. Okay, cool. Bought bought you bought i, i can read it in july and when you find me it i get read it, install it. When you find me plenty, hes not ready. Okay, cool. Right. All right. Let me just a minute. Even the bible, im a priest that she is, even the bible says you should submit one to another. So its not a bother with most omitting to you to man, but you guys got to submit to each other. I have to come to a nikiya bucks for that. Um god bless oh. So i may do one to another. Is that a play as well . Well talk about and then. Sorry, let me just go back a bit with you on to was blog and she mentioned i bought my house most help in selective right. Is some way of i have this bags to do and ill call him on all of that. But i mean, its actually a my, his let me go fill in when it comes with a list of met anymore. And on a, in the home that shell be hit and that is a resume. And thats not if we have precedence, right . And i will, there are working please, if we have boss is right, let me know who that should be on it. Okay, so because you mentioned president , i mean, if this is your position, right. How did you feel when liberia you left to the female president s . Did you feel it was also for kids that shows that women also lead way . Well, that doesnt mean that have the president info who is she had walked. It doesnt mean that watches the president of the republic of liberia, such as going to be a step of, oh, okay. I know theres something that was mentioned regarding the choice of was, you know, and i think when the kids explained it really well. The use of the would help shuttle has said its again, you know, my husband helps around the house. Are we using the correct language here because of uh what you said. It implies that the job is yours and somebody is just coming to us. Yeah, i think were not using the right words because its not help right out manage projects. And one thing i know of a partnership is that you have 2 different people with different ideas and different backgrounds coming together to agreed on something that the one to do is she has similar values, right . And thats the same with partnership. So theres no one coming to help the other because if you the other is down. So now like i will see it, i go back again to see that some side see what is foundation. Alice and site there was be buyers. And this is why you see education like you talk about west teen people coming. Change is inevitable because of education, right. The things we knew 10 years ago have changed the way when we did things, we no longer do it right. Weve come to realize to put censure of women, especially looking at us having the precedent of seeing new price it in right. And looking at what she was able to achieve in what term and how she approved the issue of in quality. And we may split, say, show not just in like bureau, but regionally, and as well globally. So tell you that we may have more, we may have what, what to insure and not just call us. So i see it having been canceled. Okay. Let me hear from my duty for a 2nd because we havent spoken to her. You just want to investigate this idea of the head of a home. Because a, because no one has talked about partnerships in a contemporary. Well thats we live in today. Do we still need that classical head of a home where i have no interesting relationship anymore . It is because of what i went through when i was a relationship. So i had to quit 2019 because i had an a deal save pregnant. Well why they protective and he was very abusive. So i went to it. I held my god like king. I have a look up in the morning in. What . So what sucks bucks are in . What it bob. Really weird. Sweet sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet. I need to understand is what do you mean put stokes. But what, what, what, what helps him dress up in the morning like a child was what i went extra martin, you know, helping took my relationship. Okay. And do i have a question for you as he was treating him as a king, as youre saying, which by the way . Absolutely. Was he treating you as a queen . Well, he was abuse if he was really abusive. So he has actually to mid mental lost interest in having relationship. And when i see people are like, you know, quite pause and then i feel like theyre not being true to each other. Yeah. Okay. So obviously not all relationships which have that dynamic will end up in abuse. Yeah, lets just pick a about that. However, it can, because these a power dynamic that has not been addressed. So how do you, how do you navigate this . So for me, people always put or have a negative connotation. When it comes to head of the were not saying that there will much would be the one to address you. Its not, its not the most responsibility to address you. If that is happening, thats abuse. Knowing your rules is different from being abused. Ok, but because you keep coming back to roles and responsibilities, right. And a question was asked, who gets to decide what the rules and responsibilities are . Its the head of the home. In this case, according to your argument, the man, how do you know when youre taking it too far . Um, so we live in a society and we have our african quarter. So thats what i said, you need to know. Youre right. Thats the 1st thing i said is, you know, youre right. You can be, you can be in a relationship and you have values. So if someone is going, theres a value thats a no, no, im saying that the i ascribe this for men and women in there who hold them very clearly. Okay. I mean, thats your position and thats perfectly fine. Weve had many things, right . Including this additional is to think thats we mentioned, even be educated, right. These are realities in this country. So what are the consequences of such extreme viewpoints, right . Weve seen in your case unfortunately, abuse. What are some of the consequences in your society . No. Yeah, of course i was just going to point out of the issue of, of abuse. The issue of violent communication is then going to generate and get another generation of young people that will be very violent if they are due for an actions. All right. Have to guess a fabulous one, right . Yeah, its cool, but my point is if you have seen that would be, should be equal. Why . I submit to pay a diary why . Samantha, i would marry. What ever just about to me, where you go to the wedding, sit company that way, right . So why cant you pay them in time . It says you want to be, well see what you, what to pay the diary that we know youll see something here. So if you pay the mans out of it, then we know they wouldnt quantity. But whats them a spear, your direct is not see uh, obviously, but us on the fiscal true. Let me let me. Oh, comes on tell. Because because if bright price has been paid, then technically youll under his control. Do you agree with this or not . Well, he has to pay money for his wife. Thats the me that the web should be on the why you are on top. It both of you should be equal because both of you i want to make you also better or better please. Not all possible grow. Ok, lisa, i want to hear from you because the question of right price is it time to perhaps get rid of some of these traditions, if be a guessing in the way of quote unquote progress. I think its time and theres no other time than now because the issue you raised to use award control, we in the fact that women should be called and called control, is it the men losing the masculinity . Whereas the powers scituate day know, who is a rest of your brothers shoulder and theyll tell you im the main. Theres one the moment is is that he lost his masculinity because he has no power for the fight that youre talking about. I have the control over this, i want to do this. I want to do that. I should do that. You lost, its the got the point youre talking to, to come through with. If i die, one might have a level of understanding. She knows what you need to do. She knows what she wants to do. So if youre spending in a way thats the time you make the announcement, im the man here because you feel she has picking up the steps to be what she wants to be. If you are for it, they view rather to comply with you a minute please. They were i try to bring them down to the i agree because they will not understand where to put the i see right there complex. We do have to wrap up at some point and not doing i do want to opinion on this. When it comes to the professional space, were talking about an inferiority complex here, lisa, alluding to men, perhaps feeling small, which is why they need to a set themselves overly. But what does it do to remain in a professional space when domestically at home . Your husband or your father keep telling you this is your place. This is your place. Can you fully participate and society at every jew says your output and limits, you know, and it makes you to have no confidence in yourself. And i cant tell you when i was going to all of those abuses, my output wasnt good at all. When i go to work, i transfer aggression. I was a happy i wasnt myself right now, a few. I feel good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah im, im really glad that you, your feeling much better now and really thank you for sharing. So as we conclude this additional list has left us, but oh, hes yeah, hes, yeah, we had requested at the beginning of this debate, which was why us wrong we meant for you had so in relationships and weve had quite a number of view points here. The question now to conclude is, is there a reason to change that dynamic . Should we go back to our old ways . Should we continue as we are . Is there a needs to even standardize and why let me hear from, oh, i am so afraid to bring the microphone to you. But lets hear you. Lets say your point is a need that well go back to our tradition. And the reason why were having distributed is because we have to have someone thats our stuff. We have a da da da, western culture. And that is that, that is what all women are risk that hit that. Yeah. Using that voice and noise will happen when we wait. No technicians who put a glass of that was happy when it was missing, but it was to the court and not have to do everything. And that is what will happen to the bidding, but its like not assuming this, and that is what about why you want edit, cuz now we may just find a new home. Okay, so let me just, are you working for example . And you must have female bosses. How do you respond to that . Oh, is having a bus mean a female is going to come to get it because i really dont see her being submissive. Sometimes she just, she just was point. Know how to man, and that is the high supposed to be so well not being a bus that can be from abusive to me. Oh, okay. I, i honestly cannot believe that i am hearing these words in 2023 but but, but i, but i mean youll, youll, youll view points, let me get one last one. He has been abused with eagle and because of the eagle, the having them that they were born with. I dont know if its a true. Thats why they dont the 10 know to assess 17th. Does that mean when the lid is mickey higher income than to mine . He feels the need to all without leaving that itd be anything. He feels like no im, im the one was supposed to to mikhail incom then hor, so push us forward because when we me i am power with me. I educate telling me i learned this aside to become better because come on with kyra children in our rooms for 9 months, which is huge. So new on dustin relationship because weve gone with them for a name was when you come outside of a boat with them, it even be a hot spot into. Oh, we sometimes think of them as babies. Yeah. Alpha as bosses. But when you come on, the babys man to support me, then what could be able to be a home and a Society Better than all right. Let me hear from this gentleman who has been trying to speak with me the entire time. Lets say your view point. Were about to visit my account. What am i . Is that a love, homer . I respect and take care of the home for my be now at a kid there. So you know, set up bringing money, a sort of will respect a man and a more that will have locked up and loved again and will be going to feed on the internet just like a man. But youre seeing chantelle here being super loving and she has a job and shes a decatur. Im not saying well, not gonna work. Thats not my point. My point is that she must still have the respect. See what shes sick and what to do as a woman in a home. All right, so lets draw attention back, you know, one to gets Closing Remarks. Normally at this point of the debate, i would be asking people for solutions. But after hearing all the diverse opinions, im not sure that there is such a thing as solutions. And so lets find out what your Closing Remarks as upon this, well finish with you guys. Lets start here. Just bought a one more point. You beauty in the world, it doesnt give a right that she and that meant they are built equally. Right. So for me, i believe we just need to go back to what christian knows, says what bill. Ill push the foundation and then of course, the, just by being of few minutes or whatever, given different views we have pushed as west who knows. We want us to assess everything to bring to us and wish you disregard ours. And im intensive. I m, lets sit down, meal and understand our womens. Sure not as this are, women should not be. Leaders will just sit and have a conversation. Mean is that agreed . Are women should be equal or 5050. We just sit and have a conversation in the conversation we did before. All right, so more dialogue, i like that from the side. Lets do some closing remark a. We did a bridge systems that will limit, we mean we need to work on the system that will put me behind. We cannot have our tradition, our quotes are suppressing, we mean keeping that as a buyer, as a buy rocky, that we cannot move beyond this because these are the most as this in it. So i think that these are framework conversation. We help us. Okay. And finally, we started with a couple id like to end with them. Weve had so many view points here. Do you think that the kind of relationship that the 2 of you have with some people might see us aspirational is under threats . We woke up in the morning as a man and getting ready for work. When you stand before that mirror, just see a human being. When you see your wife see a human being, shed heard our way. Man. You are going to be happy. If you bring that woman dot equal point, youre going to be happy. The one thing most of it done is yours. We have smalley on facebook. So the thing that we have a Good Relationship on feasible, but beyond facebook, we are really good and weve been good for 5 years. No complaint, not to anybody, because we are just equal and we have this agreement on ideas and wish went on with the hip. It depends the idea that were pushing well, which is a better idea. We go about that. Thank you. 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