space starts more jake on d. w. m . 90 depressants are stopping me from throwing myself off the nearest cliff verda. allister, forgive them, and i do have any thing to go back in time. and not start taking valuing on anything. yeah, i list the deputy said finish it's i wouldn't give up taking my medicine even if i had 2 years without any symptoms, maybe coming to act as an anti depressants don't solve problems. they just none them. those who is able to name is the main problem, is that many people wait too long before they gather enough confidence and try antidepressants with only the placebo shot is just wrong to think they're harmless . it's like because they really can't do immense harm to come. matthew sean, when it comes to anti depressants, who's right, and who's wrong, who do they help? and how dangerous are they really? ah ah, mary's from hamburg. she's taken antidepressants for 20 years. ringback and she's been trying to stop for 18. ringback ah ha, and hudson c. i was in my early twenties and i got mano nucleus and i to assemble. but when it went away, i was left with a low level depression. and i funny the stress when i started getting stressed by things that hadn't ever bothered me before and for shuffled up and i went to a neurologist and he prescribed antidepressants because he group of kush him then have a she started to notice, i had more energy again power. so i went back to the doctor and said, i didn't want to take them any more. i guess he said ok, stop taking them. and i did. and that's when it started last fall. ah, dick cut off. i felt like my body was under a men stress looking, so it was as if the devil was always chasing me. i was nothing helped with a stress. thank didn't stress of i stood in a forest, a shaking had been a bikes done because i just couldn't stand it record so well. issue etha i'm, it's what every cell of your body is wrong by terror and it just feels like you can't cope with it. took tag or you just can't bear it, but it doesn't start pullman me on and on and on. is allan courtesy house hiking? i was good. i don't, i don't. why don't why the doctor is eventually realized that mary's anxiety began when she stopped taking antidepressants. her body was in withdraw and still is siesta, but monday for you 1st blame your own mental state. i said to me, i'd never have thought that stopping my medication could have had anything to do with it. the less than that with when i'm kind of would of me no one told me about side effect on the local and long term issues or problems, giving them up with one of that romantic as heard of it was never mentioned over hopkins him out and i just thought that if the doctor gives you something a medication that is available in this country by prescription, it can't be that bad for you, thor schlecklein. the number of prescriptions for antidepressants has gone up 8 times over the past 3 decades to about 1700000000 daily doses a year enough to supply germany's entire population. for 2 weeks. professor tom sure wants to know what's caused this massive boom and antidepressants. he is one of jeremy's leading researchers into antidepressant cues. he's also a thought after expert when it comes to treating depression. as a psychiatrist, he also studies whether people are being treated according to the latest recommendations to this thought as the eye you're taking out to the person's name, correct, and on one fake. and what are you taking with angela faxing? men, law, fax, venmo. foxon. that's vital. what at your store taking antidepressants, do you remember even been gotten bored of this? is it us off here? yes. several deaths in our family. i knew i couldn't be happy any more underneath my fully. so it's gone with you the go far a difficult question, but alaska anyway, was had what helped the van le faxon are conversations at the clinic or something else? or i know has almost distinct pulse. i think it's been north of the van lack seen called me out of the whole wood. oh, but lots of talking and meeting people also did i started feeling better as i ha. okay. it was 5 years ago. yeah. i provocative question. where are you still taking villa foxon i've seen is names of the thought because of my psychologist her job often we've often discussed me giving it up as upset from clinton once is and she says you shouldn't stop too quickly and back that i know yet they said at following a 1st severe bout of depression and a 12 month course of antidepressants should suffice, embezzling arrogance and your way past that that it would be a good time to stop. i poked in some upsets professor sure advises, against taking medication longer than necessary, not least because of side effects, including weight gain and sexual issues. but he says, too often prescriptions just keep flowing him. and yet that might have a nice day. this is back without. ha! it's give, i'm call yes, most doctors think they're safe. if they recommend people keep taking antidepressants caravans. i didn't need some vitamin there and did it was eva har. 10 also come and is a landside, that's a lasting factor. you see, reflected in prescription numbers, you go. ah, there is lowering much. i don't think you can save this huge rise in anti depressant prescriptions. is largely because everyone with depression is finally getting diagnosed untreated. what's on harm? oh, i did. it was even the common one diagnosed. it's yet via their goals tie the most cases of depression or just light to moderate cases. and you really shouldn't automatically treat like depression with medication behind in, ah, this is here. it's like as i eat, i drink, i take my tablet and mine as part of my daily routine for it doesn't upset me or bother me, that i'll be taking medication all my life. nice wasn't, it doesn't affect my quality of life. it is quality now because i know these pills give me a quality of life or that they can restore it if severe symptom, stars again, and then be the most out of them to marty. often it christina's from light thick and has been taking antidepressants for 23 years. she lived in a group home as a teenager, after her mother took her own life. depression appeared later in life to leave his plan of visible i was in my early mid thirty's when i had to give up what i thought would be my life. and i just wasn't calm, i suddenly couldn't look forward to anything planned, but i knew a depressive episode could totally turn my life upside down at any time. complet of cops. then christina needed several years to stabilize her mode, not just through medication, but also with meditation and psychotherapy. lou is vice death by me are both key factors that and lead to depression play a role in mine in a wellness viewing design is one and as the experiences or events and life was that have contributed to me suffering depression, the placebo piece would help with redness or ent, herb as the other, as the imbalance of neurotransmitters in the brain. in gum. that's what christina was repeatedly told in the hospital. one of the transmitters as serotonin at, transmits information between brain cells. the serotonin hypothesis says that if levels are too low, transmission fails, and that can lead to depression. that's why almost all antidepressants increase the concentration of serotonin between cells. the theory is a simple one. the more serotonin you have, the less depressed you are, that's inside the damper. it's a convenient hypothesis, pushy, and by marino it's easy to understand because you have a simple, apparently, biological explanation. as you can say, that i have a serotonin deficiency and display for doctors. it also makes the consultations much easier. listen, you have low serotonin and i have a drug that will increase at bonham. it makes for an easy conversation. so headphones off. i think that's why it's so persistent and widespread. the problem is it is totally completely wrong. it's not harmony and yet the internet as a wash was report slamming serotonin deficiency causes depression. even though studies have failed to prove the hypothesis. no one actually knows what goes on in the brain, gene depression and how antidepressants influenced the psyche. but science rejected the serotonin hypothesis long ago, feeling absolutely answer. many doctors were said, i don't know if it's true, is suspect that they have their doubts or doesn't fly for it. but you notice that they are loathe to completely reject the simple explanation out of hand and see. and yeah, one of these i felt like the option the i to operate and hung for germany as the sight of a bi annual convention of the german depression aid foundation. people with depression and their relatives can come here for advice and talk to others about it. professor early higgin is a psychiatrist and chairman of the foundation. it's financed by donations and public funds. this other guy he got has turned to the media to increase public awareness of depression. ah, most i repeat visitors at the convention which includes everything from musical entertainment to yoga tubes and personal tales. the centerpiece is a series of seminars focusing on depression. it's causes and how to treated correctly when i did my before also on things on juvenile, did you ask the general public, 95 percent will say depression as a result of personal tragedy overwork relationship issues with this gal. that's what people believe that this is out his gun and it's not quite wrong, but the significance is massively overestimated. women did it because if you only see depression as a result of difficult life circumstances than people tend to reject medication at the same time as blaming wrong decisions, it was in tried owen. it looked them agony. i'm really committed to neiman. people obviously aren't willing to try medication if they think their relationship is to blame and to, to it's only when they understand that it also has links to the brain that they understand things better to feel. it doesn't. it's a relief for many to realize that they're just unlucky. they're predisposed to this really stupid illness. interesting. and now they have to try and make the best of it, like others living with. for example, diabetes alvo's he died campaign for years to increase the use of antidepressants. 50 that? yes, caps is tabitha? had with the people are usually skeptical. it was eva, i often find an exaggerated skepticism towards antidepressants. so i don't see a risk of them being taken widely at an increase rate or frequency goodness. i think the biggest problem is that many people wait too long before they decide to try them grow. i know many people who say that was the point that their life changed. receiver can fill it in song. a decent type of thing may live on the sweater shop. so for the mentioned, i meant so many people who missed out on thriving them because they were scared because they were told antidepressants aren't any better than a placebo iep or that they'll become addicted. people are told all kinds of things and are scared much more than necessary. as new to gast, many attendees have personal experience with antidepressants. escape a to desa janet, i admit antidepressants helped me and when i was really bad other. but i suffered a lot of side effects. of her impotence was the most unpleasant side effects and in some in vocal and my emotions felt dull and i couldn't cry. and i didn't feel like me any more, middle, just a few from the spanish. didn't even back on the side, effects were very strong or them did side and it took a very, very long time for the actual benefit to say it took a lot of patience, almost montoya. who would you take antidepressants? again? name? yeah, yes. i think i would sure this have been perhaps with better supervision and maybe a bit more well, i was lacking advice really think it was, this is see the soon thus me i think here you're pushed too much towards drugs. he is with me is i'd like to hear more about subjects like spirituality, meditation and all those other things outside the mainstream. allister, missouri can, but who dismiss one business meltdown. i thought they were pretty weak here this morning. if i was honest, it's very one dimensional organs, it's very pro medication for me and not enough about the downsides. dammit that often, and we've spoken to patients who said this is a very antidepressant friendly event, was i know you've been busy with the sympathy. i think that shows this antipathy towards antidepressants. us both. i feel like that's doing a lot of damage feeder. i believe it shot on. i've had to have this conversation with patients so often when i tell them to try them. this is and so many people were so grateful that they did into thank god, beautiful mouth, aunt fulfilled on that on part of the alphabet. hum. your opinion matters. i was good mentioned there are people who rely on you the hope, if of course, i hope so. i hope that people listen obviously is what i'm not telling them anything wrong. we'll talk of the disclosures that he did. i know it's such an influential position. mean you can't accept payments from pharmaceutical companies in public them. when did i last get a payment by 2021. the one of your article states. and within the last 2 years, we've been re, hey girl, was advisory board member of johnson and speaker of survey him a d. j. for example, medice up for lesbian, the send it up the comforter. as i am in the fortunate situation that i'm not dependent on that at all. when this in that was a speech for which i was paid 500 euros with my that is a very, very small sum. this is guns, thanksgiving insulin at the stuck a common yobbos. yes, sure. but it's been constant for years at 1000. i is 20132017. to 20. 21. where you worked for various firm accompanies him for disease. shouldn't preclude you from doing what you're doing right now with being a mouthpiece auditorium. ha, ha ha. what's was i? it's been, it's been no, i'm also an associate professor. we are also conducting research into antidepressants and the 4 flats run mostly by industry. and we are engaged in collaborative work legally. you can't avoid ellen. come with it only for she isn't of as he but she personally get paid. because i haven't received a penny in 3 years as his funds my that's from 2021 on the list for the past 3 years. i think i'd have to look. but i haven't gotten anything in 3 years. is that there is no conflict of interest of the congress of conflict a foot not to a 2022 research article that have contributed to says, but i hegel reported receiving money from johnson survey. biopharma and me did say outside and independent of the submitted work, he'd august the shar, if everyone's convinced that they won't be influenced tonight, no mine or they think they make their own decisions. everyone knows that foundation 1st studies proving it. and so if you ask for, do you think you're being influenced and they say no, it is your colleague, if you ask their colleagues will be influenced. yes, i for everyone believes that he only wants immune to influence us, but it really affects your way of thinking and beliefs. orden, entity and industry doesn't have money to burn. gates, if they think about where to invest, got busy. miss tamika muscles, argon riley, i can tell you that because i've done it said funds and how seminars on at the top and being paid by the pharmaceutical industry for it. yet off ya for and have homicide. listening was 3, you will not. i had looked at because at some point i couldn't have a clear conscience did to lie. thus, i didn't think it was ethical to take any more money from the pharmaceutical industry and with name a kind i like math one now followed citation industry. i mean, what you don't hear on stage at the convention is anything about the growing doubt surrounding the effectiveness of antidepressants dance. that 1st arose in 2008 psychologist irving kirsch was conducting research at harvard university and boston . he was testing whether antidepressants work better than placebos. as c b s documentary about his findings cost a firestorm of controversy. second study using data not only from the drug companies, clinical trials that had been published in medical journals. this time he got data that weren't published, but had been submitted to the f da, which he got through the freedom of information act. these are the studies that showed no benefit of the anti depressant over the placebo. what they did is they took the more successful studies they published most of them. they took their unsuccessful studies and they didn't publish them. curse used the drug companies own information to show that for people with light or moderate depression, taking a placebo or real medication made no difference. antidepressants don't work for them. crush concluded that antidepressants only showed an effect in helping severe depression. m mary was one of those who for years believed the pills worked until she came across other people's experiences on internet forums. they reported severe withdrawal symptoms every time they tried to give up antidepressants. helped us. i want to kick low. i just didn't believe it if i had all i just thought it was neurotic. rubbish for lighting that they were people with psychological disorders is who found it easier to defame the drugs than look at themselves and deal with why they couldn't cope. that's what i thought. i thought that mary is a qualified psychologist and until recently worked in the outpatient department of a psychiatric clinic, she was never taught as a professional about withdrawal symptoms related to stopping the use of anti depressants up which i learned in my studies that these were non habit forming drugs, they didn't alter your personality or half side effects. that's what i learned. and i just used to paradise all back at my patients, telling them that yes, they probably had low serotonin levels. i simply carried on repeating all that unchecked. like every other psychologist, that's what you believe i the sassik at the same time i was sitting there trying to pull myself together. oh no, i function normally and speak normally to people question and help them on the ward . dad didn't didn't dimension of to feel for the foot on it. i don't want to do it any more. eval, ma'am. i will get a diet. no, but i could have carried on i'd among there were so many opportunities for me professionally in big but i don't want to do that anymore. and i don't want to fight the system. the really i just don't want to. im came from israel and gotten what i just want to get better. it will make i bought an organelle, ian went there and i don't want anything to do with these drugs. going to come out next month to hm. move some clinics. now take an alternative approach in the center for mental health and marine hyden yacoma spot. and western germany has award where no antidepressants have been prescribed for 5 years. not even for severe cases. mm hm. the head of psychology here, professor hines had mass believes that depression is best explained by the events in people's lives. ah, wasn't good manon. he works with patients to find the trigger and develop a treatment plan with various options. his approach is often quite unconventional was punished to number to finish list of what can i do to make myself feel worse? when was formed in voted, if i plan to feel really bad this evening by 8 p. m. say to be really depressed. what do i do? was come under tune the fall. i blame myself for. stay in bed. just pull the covers up over my head. think about sad experiences. no anything else. novice on the plan to much and then feel overwhelmed for a phone unfold. indeed, then you're inside the downward spiral. no, as it does, i believe it's really important to add more positive activities back into your daily life. i talked to generally become more active again. and that's independent of your move out. good and say god, visa should be your stomach gallegos. i said alice, i'll tell it if the every day things are small things like that, or you ask yourself, why don't i do it? if it's going to make me feel better and the deaf one, if it makes me better, what stopping me up there to click assist clarkson. martin. the trick is to be clear about why it makes sense and why it's important not been done, but of i know what as i might not feel like going for a hike or a walker would or painting a picture kind of lost. i really don't feel like it, but i know it's the thing that will improve my condition on denmark and then i do it. this ticks, the most important thing is to start doing something again. so calm because that is the start of the process that leads out of depression, thesis steer auster to pursuing levels. it can be exhausting. does it's hard work just like pushing a car with all bite, but you do that because you know why you're doing it all from? i was with full scooters. the clinic looked at its therapy success rates a few years ago and by chance discovered that its approach was successful after studying the results of nearly 600 patients via humph. after death. and we discovered that antidepressants played no part in a successful therapy. right. smart, kind of wonder if it didn't make a difference, whether you supplemented treatment with antidepressants or if you stopped taking them for her. i'm going on board and opposite whether you kept taking them or didn't take any and alter the result was always the same weaknesses in my disclosure. that had also took a few that led us to stop prescribing antidepressants to our patients. fear for the sliver, forgot to me, it's even ethically problematic to recommend a drug with side effects and know beneficial effects, even vocal from fear and for varnish. i can best assist you, however, if patients want to continue to believe in them, they're not, we're not going to force our beliefs on them done going via thing the in the ones on van off, ah, you hannah's checked and 2 weeks ago with severe depression. he's a married 30 year old father with 2 small children. ah, the cit, circ, joclett, c, restored as of last year i realized my depression was like a monster keeping me prisoner continental. everything looked blank. tapes i had no self esteem level till the forced. it was like a poison aero stuck in me. what is sublime toys and spread and poisoned me with thoughts? mickey and i couldn't think of anything else on the hosting can come ah, do you hundreds tried to cope with his depression by himself for a long time? until last year, when he knew he had to get help? shy as well by my house or my family doctor, excuse me, from work to middle of my he prescribed me my 1st antidepressants, but they weren't working to school mom. we switched to different ones excited, but i didn't feel anything. i did not even side effect. so kind of name glaucoma. it was like taking sweets, orgasm was when bumble. of course it would be great if there was a tablet that simply healed depression. he, they plus your life was just too short weeks on the sofa drinking tea and then you're healed. the culture leading to swing on us. that's not the case. unfortunately. now that on this one, i hope that here together with the experts ms ebbs like and create a roadmap. and that will help me get my life back on track on these sham and envy dog illegal. it's hard work leave and come, but hopefully it will be worth it in the us amended us failure so no, because the tablets don't work. he wants to gradually stop taking them. german guidelines have recently begun recommending against prescribing antidepressants, for light depression, but for moderate and severe illness. even though studies show their effectiveness as questionable and with lindsey bush, if they can, we can do you have to look at the studies these he falls, it. i've to do this in 2, leora phase 3 studies in approval studies in which antidepressants are compared to a placebo drug with the table where they come with when to then there is a difference between a placebo and the real thing. the other was one of the policy will it might not be huge a cause, but it exists from the medical or they wouldn't be approved because they didn't work. 20th my name, i don't if you want my opinion from my clinical experience. if, if, and i'm convinced that the effect is greater and every day use, those are the future causes. this is i'm for who isn't clear the unit as director of a clinic. you see most people leaving after 6 to 8 weeks of looking forward to going home to their families of amelia. they're able to enjoy things and do things again up. it happens routinely. i kept going, was going to mean there's only a minority where you have to try something again for the home with and even fewer where nothing works. and hopefully that's less than one and a 1000. i'm probably in my estimate, you can help mo, right, and come and help yada. that's your only money. that's a claim that you hear again and again, my thoughts rather than about, but i put it like this. it is a claim kind of isn't often evidence of things. we don't have any scientific evidence to back it up me of one me particularly in a clinical setting off did younger as much more to it's and simply the medication did not over from taylor there regular contact with people that are talking to psychologists with social workers various forms of therapy. miss many, something from it. no one doubts that the depressive symptoms diminish their but we just don't know whether that's 22 effects of the medication or other factors. figler is sort of from my clinical experience. i don't see any scientifically convincing evidence for medication and was intermediates in dr. mitchell. hen gardner is researching depression at the zurich institute for applied sciences for years. he's noted that all major studies on the f activity of anti depressants shall similar results. conflict read aloud, the armory, certainly the us food and drug administration, the f d. a hot evaluated patients individually and the biggest study of its kind ever born. and they showed once again the law, the average effect of treatment is really very small. is vicki sir clyde? the 2022 study concludes that drugs only show significantly stronger effects than a placebo and just 15 percent of patients and 85 percent of patients. that's not the case. when he said under the puzzle at the if i had depression myself and depressed, i would start by taking antidepressants. and so that with a basic it, as soon as i start feeling better and am able to make changes to my life. so i'd ask myself, are there areas conflicts in my life where i repeatedly feel overwhelmed situations i should consider changing for dr. edwards, who owns about from one is really the knowledge that depression has something to do with brain function is very important to him. functional to, to as, as the presence of a disorder in the brain of grill, one of the infantile unfolding months will be hon. luman beijing. he april looked for treatments to treat the brain for he started in february, but they forget them which wider social context and environmental factors or social factors. synoptic, who are the people suffering from depression allied at single mothers who were overwhelmed with cindy, who can show their dis, double burden. and also the thing that people have been unemployed long term and who see on tv and on social media. what's possible in life could, who are stuck and poky dark apartments and can't afford any of a tyson can or, and in my view, that's where we fall, shortens to mean why? because there's no funding for it. and on monday, for sure, i mean, hopeful lou search is largely sponsored by the drug and the strength of darcy, not only, but of course, their social prevention measures very or, and they would represent competition for their products emergency because you don't take antidepressants until you have the disorder of a much deal, if you can prevent the disorder, you wouldn't need the drugs to put it bluntly good, like most research funding goes into pharmaceutical and medical studies says, hang gartner. all this research has been unable to explain what happens in the brain with depression. but antidepressant prescriptions continue to grow. not least because depression is often wrongly diagnosed as of as the seizure thong. what we can say is that many moods that are ultimately diagnosed as depression do not in actual fact fulfill the criteria for depression eigen. please convenience to my diagnostician. katira, none of the christina fruit on the even does believe that's the problem on it. go to the doctor to mouse and it's not exactly clear whether it's depression or as an easily explainable feeling of dejection. so all orders, sancho, i know, mar, laclare, bowing. you get a diagnosis during a relatively short consultation every 10 minutes. they've got a prescription for not me, isn't displaying a theme. newton fog lights up the stink of the largest group of antidepressant takers, or people with light or sub clinical forms form because that the most common and syndrome on that we have now scientific evidence that medication is helping this group of sufferers health. and that's the problem we face today as the name of probably him on army will be owns hoyt of if, if mary is gradually lowering her dosage every day, she does the same thing. she dissolves her antidepressants and watch her and drinks a carefully measured amount. every couple of weeks she reduces that even more. ah, mary's now found a doctor who's helping her to give up her tablets. a process that she has long struggled with. if one i'm happy you came isn't get here yet. it's been for very extreme years that were, i've been more or less stuck on this one, fed islam and i'm sick of it. look and buckman was for the moment i'm getting lots of physical symptoms of friendship and sometimes really extreme, extreme and negative. i think i've got flu but an hour later it's all overt peter as ask usually i'm not that sensitive. esther runs cove ali as a neat, simple evil. the couple of yes and the physical flu like symptoms are typical when you stop taking them home. acutely bunch and then also later it's not the 1st time i've heard that part. 56 percent of people who he take anti depressants are affected by acute and chronic problems. giving up chrissy behind them. that's matter. analysis from london university am switzerland on one of the slides. but as for me, i am really really relieved to hear that do tuned fun. now i know having a medical professional confirmed that who run, it puts a different light on things and machines almost is a hollow. you're not just saying i'm someone with psychological problems who just has to accept it in the warned that it was mother kept up fin, gonna exactly belaboring hudson and i often patients are labeled as psychologically ill about the actually just having medical withdraw him home that told there's something wrong with them than been medea's own boss fight. ah, the get destroyed at the bottom. there are people who try to make a huge fuss about withdrawals is empathy. i thought this coming and normal health care, it's a tiny problem. it puts in the we have countless patients here who stopped taking their medication without showing any kind of dependency of this elisa, co. i would say there's a greater risk of the depression returning if you stop taking it because it works against up depression. i think this is not what cbo and if people stop taking it, the risk of a setback increases in facilities, and that is the best explanation or hoot or the assistant. i think the ugly old does this, no upsets him to knowledge surrounding withdrawal symptoms. is not that wide spread among doctors if far does that ideal meet. there's always the danger that people the stake withdrawal symptoms with the return of depression, lots of women, and think they have to start taking them again. is odessa, but certainly happens a lot. i know hoyle figures, that's what i find concerning about the ever growing number of prescriptions caught in. that's neon. shackleton, it's a potentially a sign of how difficult it is to get off antidepressants. thus for like i was stoked off on that as she iceland. i did get with the are more and more patient starting to menaja, but while hardly anyone giving them up a calm i not can meet out of ah, christina has decided to not just see her depression as an illness, but as an opportunity to help me. she advises other people with depression and their families by telling them about her experience with the illness and she listens. ready ready among mac, this is that you know, you're on, well what key it owned am and just look and then you decide to address the problem . that's probably more, but you just end up feeling more and more helpless. if florida does is in this to that is typical with depression, it really changes a person who handles them to marty or youngest. people sometimes want to discuss whether they should or shouldn't take antidepressants. christina tells them about her experience with them. with that she's never had bad side effects that she sees them as a reliable weapon against depression, even though her illness keeps coming back. oh, oh lou. it's the last day of your highness is drug free. anti depression therapy has 10 week treatment program is almost over. he's just going to this final embodiment group. think of what role you had a few times gently this way in that he's been learning how to use his body to influence his psyche. his then asked to discuss his goals once he leaves. sure, michigan, i'd really like to be more relaxed, more stress resistant. does not have the feeling that everything is an insurmountable mountain belk. as for lindsey, i'm what do you want instead of the stress issue, i hope to be more capable rosemary, but i want to be more dependable. so this, i want to be more confident and dependable by being aware of my abilities and challenges to control my abilities. and by taking a break at the right moment in griffin, men and powers, i'm swimming. how does that sound to you? oh yes, that sounds like me please. that sounds right. sounds like what you want to achieve, what you have to face now. yes, absolutely. ah, you, hon. us, we'll go home with a complete set of tools to fight his depression. they include very simple measures that can help counter depression. mm hm. isolate targets fulfill makin can for example, structuring your day with one simple principal fleet on yet. and every day is achievable, high and every day, a positive experience doing something that used to enjoy the an it guy be getting up early, regardless of whether you've had a bad night. not that's effective against depression. it's that side by that and not letting surfing on the laptop at 3 in the morning. be the most active part of your day thought and the v gomez. and that's really harmful homes come monday activity and mobility is good and bomb. you can easily build that into your daily structure. these are a few cardinal rules that you can try instead of taking antidepressants, straight away and still be successful. how damn it went to uh, 5 ads. yeah. ah no. me good. i'm doing fine. shall i say before i shocked myself, because i'm allowing myself to feel joy again. it goes to latin again, we're going to look forward to things again or, and i'm on to him and it was like a light switch being of lays his own. honestly, a longer leg would work out. certainly you're not an awful guy on the so you have a right to live. yeah. and you're fine as you are an unwashed to leave one to go as a school to redo boost. yes, name is from i need to book and i've been off antidepressants for several weeks as if i had a few side effects. when i stopped named vocal, i realized they weren't just smarty social gordon. i sat on a chair in the cafeteria and i felt really dizzy and buys as i knew was when i thought i was going to fall. i wouldn't, i had to really hold on me didn't. and i felt sick. i'm evolved i often felt like i was going to throw up a stomach. what's of it was just really hard to deal with spanish cold. most to heighten your highness is determined, he won't take medication again. even if the depression returns to sure block, which i'm going to get going now, because i'm going school could all the best. oh, so he thought, i'm really looking forward to the time you for blink all the time i can really spend with my family again divine. i almost want to cry with joy and abiding again to be with him again. no. they're the best thing that ever happened to me. ah hey, i'm coming home. no. but i think somebody help us pick. i'm still wary about the day to day stout. i'm so i'm not so sure about that. can i do it? you've been dog dental of. i'm hopeful, even if i am a little 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