Being set by the you they have stuck to them very closely there they have showed unity over them yes they would be ready to make some compromise on small walding but at the end of the day this is the deal if you want to avoid a tough practice if that is the message today from brussels this is whats available and thats what the u. K. Will have to walk on their markets and bustle thanks but about. You also need of a new life from berlin more coming at the top of the hour return with jobs out for more analysis where that. Interest rate waiting. For a lifeline to syria. Good morning where are you why arent you answering. Every call brings them closer together. But it hurts because they feel powerless to help. They worry about
the ones theyve left. Im trying to be strong. The war continues to haunt those who fled from syria. My father our two part documentary starts december eighth. Islam would follow and Womens Rights are not contradictory sense since. She is the editor of the multicultural womens magazine because the author of various books on islam and is our guest today thank you for being here. Lets start without quote. Many germans believe that muslim women are eclipsed and oppressed in society as
a feminist do you agree with. This is a reality and thats why i wrote a book about women called muslim girls ten years ago about a multifaceted reality for women in germany who have different ethnic and cultural backgrounds and of course there are many women unfortunately often muslim women who really are oppressed. But there are many who have managed to go their own way and have fought their way out of difficult circumstances so its hard to say that muslim women per se are oppressed. And one controversial subject or symbol perhaps is the headscarf some people in Mainstream Society think that women who wear a headscarf are more radical in religious terms than those who dont theres really is this true. On. The bus as if you know well many from the first and
second generation wore them more for traditional reasons and there was an association that they were peasants or had lower qualifications or might even be illiterate. So there was this idea that if a woman wasnt very educated she would wear a headscarf. But now there are women here who wear head scarves although they went to school here went to university graduates. So the old idea of the headscarf has changed and also the easygoing idea that they had sky. As a Fashion Accessory think of grace kelly or dree hepburn for example. By the ari happened after the islamic headscarf is a pure product of patra and its linked to dress code. So women who wear a headscarf through religious reasons probably cannot understand why some would wear
it for reasons of fashion. They arent flexible enough to wear one from time to time nor will they show their shoulders or wear short skirts or. And this is problematic because were talking about a dress code that emancipated women would probably not adopt for themselves. In. These if you visibly decided not to wear a headscarf your considered a modern woman how did you come to this decision. I was going to think one has to be careful about making assumptions about women who dont Wear Headscarves they to be reactionary have one sided views being racist almost such an esteemed. There are many women in reactionary and neo fascist movements in the Turkish Ultra Nationalist Gray Wolves organization there are many women who dont Wear Headscarves so one has to be very careful that there are also many women who do wear a headscarf who are very open who accepted if their children tell them theyre gay
or their sisters say they going out with a non muslim this is also a reality. But there is a problem with the fact that most women who represent Islam In Public tend to Wear Headscarves and not be critical so theres a need for much more differentiation. Personally i chose not to wear a headscarf very early on. I saw that the koran didnt call for it and as a feminist i wouldnt accept a dress code because i really believe women should be allowed to wear what they want and. Im. Just. Since im also interested in fashion i wouldnt want to be restricted. Xin talk youre the daughter of moroccan immigrants what was it like at home by your parents very strict very religious very conservative but. Id say my family is conservative because tradition is very important for them for my parents especially
my mother it was always important that i knew what my roots were every sunday i had to learn the quran by heart like all children who usually go to quran school and so i had a very traditional religious education. But my family and parents are also very tolerant and accepting and in the end their love for their children to me in this case one. In five. There wasnt any dogma about what a girl can and cant do. Of course this had an influence on me very conservative doesnt necessarily mean reactionary and narrow minded. Urgencies are you saying that your tolerant family could serve as an example for other muslim families in germany was leadership from leading in georgia different men and yes in many ways i find my parents incredibly inspiring. I was able to discuss all kinds of religious
questions with my father but he always wanted me to ask questions and engage in discussion. For my mother too it was very important for me to become an independent woman she never went to school shes a literate she always supported me and my mother is very open minded at first glance she might not appear to be so with her limited skill set up but i really appreciate that in her. And i would like my mother to be an inspiration for others to within my family she has been an inspiration in the sense that other women have educated their daughters with more freedom thats what im just on the phone enough that you know i had. Those in seattle youre also a feminist and proud of it what brought you to feminism did something or someone especially influenced you that got up and i just mentioned my mother and i think that she unconsciously laid the First Foundation stone and of course my drive for freedom is an important aspect without feminism without the Womens Movement this
wouldnt have been possible. Early on i read feminist literature i read emma regularly for instance i always got it out of the library which doesnt mean i agreed with everything sometimes i was very confused for example when muslim women were perceived as lacking something whereas i knew from my family from my experiences in morocco in my environment that there were also muslim women who lacked nothing. Out of being muslim and independent and not necessarily contradictory but of course in some societies it means having to face more resistance than are by them as i mentioned also talk about muslim men yes there have been many cases of Sexual Violence against women in germany some politicians have spoken of young testosterone driven muslim men. Youve also written about such men in one of your books. Of abuse can these men
even be taught what it means to respect women by being just as highest respect for fallen through that i would have put that when actually archy is very present then men and their image of women can also be very problematic can they learn yes i believe very strongly that some men can change their image of women of patchy arche. Because many themselves suffer from patrick. Structures whats needed a new spaces where men can talk about these issues theres a project in germany called heroes where men can talk about things such as on or about patriarchal structures and admit their weaknesses as it were they also need protected spaces just as women do. Dr white as one of the. Big german Islamic Conference is taking place for the fourth time next week youve been invited in the past what is it about. Because i must admit that nothings ever
really stuck with mame ive never had an epiphany with regard to this conference. Is our conference it certainly has triggered many initiatives there are now theology departments way islam is being taught and studied and reinterpreted there are people interpret in the quran from the perspective of gender and equality and thats made a difference. But islam is now being taught in schools as well the discussion about Islam In Germany has changed and many more muslims are being involved in the debate but. There are also more muslims who can be involved in the day it was not only these are conservative associations exactly there are many people who say that they represent islam but they basically represent themselves and very few muslims in germany and then on the other hand there are people who criticize islam and then there are many muslim women and men who are following
their own path. Often i mean an apartment recently a new association for Secular Muslims was set up theres a lot happening and much of this is thanks to the islam conference. So what are the wouldnt you say that theres much debated german form of islam is a model for the future for example more tolerant and equal life there is a congregation in berlin which practices this reform of islam is this the way forward of practice here is that the Megans Law Doesnt Work and whats interesting is that as long as they have been muslims living in germany theres been a form of german islam perhaps with a turkish influence or a moroccan one or a salafist one. All of this is german islam. We muslims in germany are going to have to develop a form of islam on the basis of the german basic law that supports the values of freedom. Humanism. These can of course be drawn from the quran and
tradition. But its going to be a tough process because of course the old and new Power Structures will clash. With. The traditional islamic associations are going to have to fight for their power and they might not have the same power in ten or fifteen years as they currently have. So. We always end the d. W. Interview with three sentences that we ask our guests to complete them and thats then if the integration of muslims in germany is to be successful then. We have to be much more selfcritical on both sides and on the side of the socalled migrants we should perhaps not use our own grievances as a yardstick for action but be more willing to criticize ourselves. Indoor to german scared of the Country Being Islami Fide because of muslim immigrants i would say. That we are taking a Deep Breath Look at the facts and get involved. Im looking forward to christmas because this city is a so beautifully lit up there and it always reminds me of my wonderful Summer Holidays in morocco i like the season because its lovely. Im sure and stark thank you so much for the way thank you. Euro max highlights. French quite finnish fashion is. Illuminated why moscow by night is magical. Breathless what it means to film extreme sports. Euro back next. Digital advances are transforming the world is humanity ready for it this time on founders Valley Entrepreneur Designer your takes a trip to korea where education is key people are driven to succeed at any cost. Can add Tech Startups help bring about a change. Driven to succeed the founders valley in sixty minutes on t. W. This. Continent is reinventing itself. As africas tech scene discovers its true potential