On facebook. Stuart got present one nine hundred seventy five the leaders of the Red Army Faction terrorist group were on try. And put this my generation was on trial today and it didnt go good to where they revolutionaries or kilis the trial divided the country let him be shot out of hooped elsies standing there were only two colors black and white stripes and bias there were confrontations in the courtroom as well. Made now for the its not like mickey have a videotape of not the me beauty ill need for that wasnt easy for the judges just in case germany was in turmoil how could justice be served in the shadow of terrorism. As funny it was oppressive i was completely worn out. The defendants was sentenced to life in prison and day one the only ones. Victory prison in one thousand nine hundred eighty four a few weeks before the start of the trial our a. F. Member heard the mines had been on a Hunger Strike for two months he wanted to be moved to the same prison as the other members of the group he called his lawyers. It was still meet him he was already so weak and he may see ated that i have to put my ear close to his mouth to understand him with. He said please make sure that they move me to shun time as soon as possible. Which country it was right before the weekend by the high tide of forty four and. Minds as lawyers notify judge to a prince ng who is presiding over the aria of trial prince in cold the prison in victory. Kind of a decisive and thats no one told me that he was on his deathbed he was still Walking Around no doctor was attending him and he wasnt considered a risk that hes our hero but only he. That same night november the ninth the lawyers and relatives of the aria of prisoners held a solidarity event. They wanted the inmates strict prison conditions to be relaxed. The judges dont gabriella printing also attended. I sympathized with the Red Army Faction at the time they had the courage to go beyond philosophy and debate. They took action. Until i came young. The gathering was interrupted by some bad news i thought i might as died. Yeah. The situation became tense right away and he saw a few days he could feel here and everyone stood up. On target and i was shaking because i knew that when they said murderer they meant my father and we decided right away to go to the judges home and protest. And sing on porters. I. Couldnt sings address was listed in stood gods Telephone Directory his daughter called to warn him. They stood down there and called out murderer there were two hundred or three hundred people at the house we had two Police Officers armed with submachine guns ready to fire after the demonstrators left but that was only the beginning. Here toward for the death of hologram mines also stepped up the pressure on the court system. And on judge can sing for the time and amp and the aria have set its sights on the judge. There can. Never forget those events on the one hand i feared for my fathers life and i didnt want anything to happen to him. But i could also understand the outrage over the death of hunger months. And. Now. She was on the far left politically like most students of the time. This generation had been shaped by the German Student Movement of nine hundred sixty eight and they wanted change students. Demonstrated against the state the author of his and germanys nazi past. We wanted to change things we didnt want to see fascism or nazi isnt ever again that was the main thing. And. The street battles of one thousand nine hundred sixty eight had a profound impact on an anti generation of young people some saw violence as the only real way to achieve change. That included holger minds a student at the time mines joined an underground group called the Red Army Faction. Its founders under various bought and goodwin and slain planned to use terrorist attacks to create the foundation for an anti imperialist revolution journalist mindful of also joined the group in one thousand nine hundred seventy two they already have carried out a series of deadly bombings including some aimed at u. S. Troops in west germany it was a protest against the war in vietnam but by a hive mind it was widely known that the u. S. Forces stationed here played an Important Role in the criminal war in vietnam and. In vietnam about four people were killed and fifty others were wounded in the attacks many who had sympathized with body and mind over horrified by the increase in violence but the antiwar protests brought together they are a half and leftist groups in west germany. Biting some people including intellectuals artists Students University students and staff felt a Certain Affinity with the r. A. F. Have been. In june one thousand nine hundred seventy two police camp had three key r. A. F. Members of the west house in frankfurt or the mines. And underway as bada. Hoodoo enslin and when we combined hove were arrested soon afterwards. The docks and there was a major contradiction with the r. A. F. And that trial and all that. They had the most impact and post the greatest threat one still leaders had been put behind bars. And. The r. A. F. Defendants were sent to sham home prison in stuttgart a special Court Facility was built on the prison grounds at a cost of twelve million monks it was a unique development in west german history the judge hearing the case was an experienced legal scholar and the form of a mark left an a. For the next in this case will follow strict legal procedures we will ensure that the rights of the accused are guaranteed to get it out of. The court will not allow those rights to be abused by either side. At first we lawyers had a normal and informal relationship with the judge for comfort or threat news who they wish shouted youre hopeful and thats is i had hoped that given my courtroom experience i would at least be able to impose a sense of order on the proceedings at wrigley his new york chef and the fans of snow. In late one thousand nine hundred seventy four the area of prisoners were transferred to. The trial against enslin hospital Baader Meinhof and mines was to start there in a few weeks the charges against them included four counts of murder the group had already claimed responsibility for the killings the defendants faced life in prison and they decided to use Hunger Strikes to protest the strict prison conditions that the author of his and imposed on them. Yes. It was the First Time Since one thousand nine hundred five that prisoners had used their own bodies as a weapon it was a huge step because it could end in their deaths as it did with hunger mines. Mines his death was a disaster for the Justice System the author orators were now in the dock and the Red Army Faction had its first martyr. The fight continues. There were accusations that mines lawyers were deliberately complicit in his death and that they were simply trying to stir things up before the trial started. For the aryans lawyers particularly close quote this was much more than just another trial. I had always had a Strong Social conscience. But over time of course his support for groups like the r. A. F. Got him into troubles. In december nine hundred seventy four cause some arranged for french philosopher john paul sounds good to visit under various bought in charm hime. In mind there was some opposition among the other judges but it was my decision alone and i was comfortable with it i wanted people to see that we werent trying to isolate the defendants from the public. Side were mistakenly believed that the spartan of visitors room was actually bought us out there was a huge controversy and santa raised claims of psychological torture. The neon light is on all the time they only switch it off until eleven pm for him and not at all for the other inmates. Afterwards already have sympathizers formed and tortured groups to support the prisoners some even demanded their liberation. The second r. A. F. Generation was recruited mostly from these groups. Struck home april nine hundred seventy five six Second Generation r. T. F. Members known as the hold the mines command took hostages in the German Embassy they demanded the release of the sham home prisoners to embassy employees were killed that night explosives that the hostage takers had brought with them blew up wounding all of the attackers the prisoners found out about the incident despite strict security measures. When the news broke that the siege had ended a crowd gathered outside the prison. Lets him out and hang on. I agree. Let him out and shoot him. An eye for an eye. Lynch law instead of a fair trial as long as they are enough leaders were in prison the terrorist attacks would continue as they didnt come things down a toll on the contrary it made the situation even worse discounting must feel a by guitar the trial started on may the twenty first nine hundred seventy five. Foreign journalists now a lot of foreign journalists were there reporters from a number of countries came to hime the mood was tense there were police on horseback in Armored Vehicles and in a helicopter. It was the biggest terrorist trial in west german history some of the spectators supported they are as. Meaningful to im here for the trial because of bad already army faction and the goals that theyre pursuing. To sing the national. A sixteen year old student from stuttgart was also there under his file was a member of a christian democrat youth group you know me as a city official told me that if the government had a file on me i shouldnt go and i wanted to get ahead in my career. Gate on hearing the author of his camp to particularly close out on the sympathizers. Many school and University Students and teachers were suspected of supporting the r. F. There was a lot of suspicion on both sides. Many of the sympathizers believed the state could not guarantee a free trial. And there was another Hunger Strike. When the defendants appeared in court for the first time they seem to be in poor health. And their weight is a concern. And i think he weighs around forty eight kilograms. And saying forty two. I love it and i know forty and a half and bought away fifty kilos of. This and the defendants had such a high public profile that bother could say if we go on a Hunger Strike the entire country pays attention when. The cancer. The judges daughter gabriella joined a solidarity committee. Move on and we did things like that all the time if it involved the r. A. F. I was in you know. Bunch of the defendants were ruled unfit to stand trial the trial could be suspended judged prince ing suspected that this was the reason behind the Hunger Strike since. That when other defendants whites accurate how did this happen from a medical perspective is it possible that the defendants are intentionally losing white. Convincing me to be given. By feeling. About the fantasy Series Making for going to happen. But laws were no on the books that allowed trials to take place without the defendants being present that was no coincidence. Just fifty other countries the civil side its been forty years now so i can speak openly. But. I think the court knew that the defendants would continue their Hunger Strike to the point where they no longer be fit to stand trial. In this heart of sin had boy kept on tut so there would have been no point to even start the trial. What kind seen how thats not meeting one for very logical words take that if i am known than not some judges were pushing for this change in the law here and i give the vets given five hundred and it would have been another reason for me to suspect vyas by car or didnt you piss off mistake of hundred commuters in the new law was apparently initiated in part by the court itself also limited the rights of the defense lawyers the court accused Hans Christian of supporting the r. F. And took him off the defense team clause cause song and court good of all to also remove. That prompted a lot of criticism from other countries in the political trial the defense lawyers are often taken off the case now happens every way. They are of lawyers were outraged. If. The defense team has been gutted three of them found and lawyers have been removed just before the start of the trial already there is no defense team anymore. You know man. Good and slims lawyer took a combative stance. For the its not like make you have to be outraged. Good. Night. Its not. The outreach. You know its been a bit in portis every morning when we walked into court we experienced a wave of aggression and hostility and even hatred has. Bad ideas colleagues use the trial as a political platform. And were very confident they were articulate in eloquent and made it quite clear that they had no intention of participating in a regular trial. They wanted to politicize it from the very start of the board and put this point forward and i put it. Up for the first thought he. Went on and on for farm to fund. It i. Think. But i dont. Look if you know about it thats. Not a spot. This will be seen in big standing. They spoke out against the vietnam war you could say that they did so improperly but they have a right to speak and thats the nature of a trial like this hes an ns so what senses. Of course you could understand why planned singing and the other judges were upset that defendants lashed out sometimes out of them but if one told judge cleansing to shut up. Privileged it definitely wasnt easy for the judges but i wasnt on their side i was on the other side with after that. At press conferences the lawyers focused on the defendants political philosophy thats given each time the court has rejected an investigation into the extent to which the west germany government was involved in the criminal us more of aggression against vietnam in vietnam for. The goal was to use the trial to attack the Justice System. Its the insult thats how different i mean i think its nonsense to claim that anyone was to be humiliated or made a victim the balance of power was quite different back then. And if god is god. And. You know but then man is he been i had come and hes a tease if you listen to the tapes youll see that it wasnt the defendants who were aggressive toward the judges. It was the lawyers. And their. The defense lawyers stalled the trial by constantly raising accusations that judge brinn singh was biased there were divisions between arre of supporters and opponents and not just in the courtroom. You know tightening our Student Newspaper covered the trial so the School Officials banned it then we sold it in front of the school we painted a red line on the ground and said this is where germanys democracy ends the afoul disport obvious you know there was so much polarization and hostility back then extreme i take he said president the trial outraged many average citizens. They need tougher jail conditions and worse food. They havent eaten in weeks and. Theyre too lazy that its too much for them. Listen let me the third reich is gone. I hope itll come back. Because i mean until i have folders full of mail that includes slanderous remarks and Death Threats but instead say things like how can your fans murder as why not. Good for the i mean of the worst case was when someone sent me a bullet and a letter that said this is a death sentence made i because i believe that its time tortoise or time theater director klaus primer was also accused of being an area of sympathizer crime and had supported a from raising efforts so that goodwin enslin could have some dental work done in committee of the info i came back from holiday and saw myself on the cover of the bill it newspaper you know this man funds the underground much time under nates ten thousand marks i broke out in a cold sweat. The article generated a negative response to say the least. And so to any detain someone should smash your teeth and you. Have you no sense of decency you swine. And in blue scum bag youll be next like you should be gassed preferably with chlorine or fostering best maclow up with our first game. The authorities knew that as long as the aria of leaders remained in jail there would likely be more terrorist attacks Police Stepped up the search for possible accomplices the Port Authority had to buy food in some violent where i live now police shot and killed a man from scotland because they thought he was linked to the. Bottom line of it was terrible. For by. The public pressure brought the defendants and their lawyers closer together under arrest bonded demanded the attorneys adopt the aria of scientology and recruit new supporters house correspondent. Is that senses are unfortunately germanys factious tradition continues as before when it often is the codes and the defense lawyers battle to win Public Opinion in the one nine hundred seventy s. Germanys nazi past was still a major discussion topic and it came up at the trial. There were groups of agitators it was incredible the defendants and their lawyers contributed a lot to that during the trial tactic and spatially by escaped there is a notion among leftist groups and the r. A. F. Which is part of the left that they are dealing with a fascist system here in west germany. Thats minus mit and its run by former perpetrators to tonight and i like it. Now before the socket a defense lawyer claimed that one of the judges had a nazi background and said this was a scandal. Is the symbolic going on and. Make america heil dr pointing you to support. It was clear to us that the. Judicial systems was full of people who had participated in the nazi regime. And that you saw more and more of them as you went up the chain of command you. Better not make them up. But the claims were unfounded apprenticing was never a nazi judge in fact prince in convicted several defendants on charges of war crimes including those involved in the massacre of a number of polish academics and their families in laval of one thousand nine hundred forty one so printing actually worked to bring former nazis to justice. And if i wasnt aware of his previous rulings. In the first year of the trial alone the lawyers filed forty five complaints of bias against judge printing others criticised him too. The focus was always on him. The criticism was quite severe at times. Every day from all sides. At the time no other judge attracted so Much NegativeMedia Attention these constant attacks on the competence of the judges certainly complicated the situation at the trial. Imports. As a stock not so im playing and i was there for you they dont have access invite. Me to take start yelling stuff that was in vain that you value the indecent tone of. The Defense Attorneys filed a motion. And then said that their client wanted to confirm this motion personally of hope to. Meet him but you never appeared in court. Instead the lawyers criticized German Society and outlined their revolutionary philosophy. As im very high as lawyers it was our job to defend our clients and their rights. The im afraid that if they wanted to Say Something but couldnt then it was up to us to do it. Covered a story to that. And surely felt that they had to do more than just follow that clients orders. But other defense lawyers who identified with the r. A. F. Secretly smuggled messages various kinds of equipment and even weapons into the present. Just the problem was that there were some defense lawyers who had actually joined the Red Army Faction. F. X. Mickey darkest person but getting more hoped for a f m m a billy get to mourn how one said the quest song law of firsts in stuttgart with cross song mila valor and is the official home of the Red Army Faction. If. Mind hold for enslin led the r. A. F. Even while they were in prison. They kept in touch through smuggled messages and by korea. And some lawyers set up a messaging system that the r. T. F. Itself late to use. And thats because it was not used as it was intended for the info system was quite harmless it was meant to be used by the defense team and by our client fifty. Im good since they were facing long prison sentences. For the. Later the author of this relaxed some of the prisoners jail conditions. In the country the entire seventh floor belongs to them and theyre allowed to be together when the doors are open during the day and they all have a t. V. And all sorts of conveniences they have a lot of outside support so theyre allowed to read. But can we show all that you know. Tighe are on the thump on the. This gap and demand some is impressive. Now if sympathy is the r. A. F. Sympathizers and the state both wanted to portray this prison as really tough maybe even extreme in your eyes the sympathizers wanted to show that the state was definitely proto fascist if not already fascist many so got under State Government wanted to make it clear that the prison was definitely not a hotel or fastened unit sometimes when under this kind whatever its all the trial turn they already have into a Political Force and the defendants reminded the court of this at every turn for all my know if she had been making i had the choice on benghazi or not every week i was just wasnt up most of them i was on the. First the gaps de luxe lay believe that you dont talk to class enemies like representatives of the judicial system should the of. The arias combat reserves consisted of around a hundred hardcore supporters. Teared up and saying was now one of the groups top targets. People which i hope shes got a good game and the police gave us code words to use if we were kidnapped to prove our identity and what an order of the he gets or cripple so as a stay in. A specific group had planned an assassination. His car was to be blown up within it and. Theyd already planned the route and the day and intact but the attack on put in seeing never took place or removed to detonate a failed the ari have had tried once before to kill a judge. In one nine hundred seventy two votes going didnt bag only just avoided being assassinated his wife was badly wounded they are of trial dominated judge brinn singhs private life. And palin actually fought all the time we argued and debated and perhaps im used to our efforts to get a rise out of my father once in a while. To. The stand heim prisoners and their sympathizers shared the same set of rules. Discovered your point of the fight has been you were either friend or foe if you deviated from the political line or if you had questions or doubts you were out they threatened you to be and then they tossed you out. Badder and ensuing put pressure on only command of who was psychologically unstable. During the trial might of seemed to make her cry for help. You know to go fong in used to. Im going to im going on this is void thats as unfair and. You kind of as another thought. You know absolute you know. What i know is this man. And i got the same kind of partner the. First and i didnt understand that word at the time the defendant said a lot that you couldnt understand when you were stunned at what i saw a moment of went out on the stroking the concrete wall with a hand that. I almost felt like crying that first line. In wake of mind of hanged herself in her cell and made the ninth one nine hundred seventy six. The r. A. F. Now had a second maga after the whole of the mines and i said to tell you i had lunch with my father and i was really upset about meinhof the day before my attitude was like how could you couldnt. Already have supporters were convinced that my hope was murdered but the trial continued without interruption my dose name was simply removed from the list of defend. Going out on porch discovering new laws then the defendants demanded a break in the trial. So that they could properly grieve for mine. But we knew from material taken from the jail cells that her colleagues put such pressure on her that she was driven into this unfortunate situation. Get that and. So he can mislead his into us here on some people believe that they are ever needed martyrs like mind of and that the state had no intention of conducting a fair trial they thought that the governments goal was to destroy the r. F. I was torn between the two sides i could see things from the judges point of view even though i identified more with the defendants sometimes i switched sides from one moment to the next it was a complete madhouse. Has been here and the courtroom proceedings also took a toll on judge brinn singhs nerves he hadnt expected a trial like this. I dont think he was quite up to the challenge you couldnt impose a workable structure that was difficult with those defendants and their attorneys and still a judge has to impose some structure on a drug thats muslim and if it was about cleansing allowed himself get bogged down in the petty details and he didnt disclose who on. Us twenty made mistakes and in january nine hundred seventy seven he even considered quitting the trial this in colleagues i discussed it with a colleague the aggravation just wasnt worth it the atmosphere was oppressive i realize that the trial had taken a lot out of me. But before he could jump the defense lawyers pushed him. Then from front of the judge to your door cleansing quick the trial on january twentieth one thousand nine hundred seventy seven after Defense Attorneys felt their eighty fifth complained of bias against him. I felt sorry for him but i also said thank god thats over and by princelings deputy abel heart food took his place. Told him that he often tried to see the good side of sable and that was a mistake a scooter image and he thought he could discuss things rationally with any full name but he couldnt do that but some of the people in that courtroom later acquitted him so ill do it to me to convert who sneaked. And he said he let the defendant speak but made it clear that he was not going to engage in extensive political debates. I think that led to a certain objectification of the trial if you can call them. In mid march nine hundred seventy seven there was a new development to authorities had violated the rules of Attorney Client privilege. Conversations between the bottom line of the rope and their lawyers were recorded as soon as that information became public the trial was adjourned at the request of the defense team. Tucked. In a state that values the rule of law the integrity of defense counsel is essential this is sec religious its criminal this trial is essentially. Nice to me at least i thought it couldnt be done i seriously thought about giving up information so. On april the seventh one thousand nine hundred seventy seven nori of gunman shot and killed germanys attorney general sigfried. The attack took place as bluebox car was stopped at a traffic lodging calls work driver was also killed a passenger later died of his wounds the murders pushed the wiretapping case off the front pages of the trial resume the verdict was announced on april the twenty eighth. You could have heard a pin drop in the courtroom as the presiding judge spoke the defendants have been found guilty on four counts of murder numerous attempted murder bombing attacks and forming a criminal organization of the Court Sentences all three of you to life in prison and. We discussed the verdict and decided that i was correct in my name currently that i can and to a person who is not a legal expert could look at this case and accept the good but if you are a legal expert and. Familiar with the trial yet realize that it was a disgrace shanika vs. The trial was complicated there was the wiretapping controversy and the defendants and the lawyers kept making political speeches. Given the verdict was intended to serve justice and restore a certain level of come to society he freed the media here used to it but the verdict had the opposite effect the remaining members of the our abstract up that campaign of domestic terrorism in september nine hundred seventy seven they kidnapped house martin shia a Business Executive and industry representative and demanded the release of the president s. You know the Palestinian Group hijacked a lot of times a passenger jet took eighty six passengers hostage and also demanded the prisoners release. A west German Federal police unit rescue the hostages on october the eighth changed battle and the scene and rasper were found dead in their prison cells. The defendants lawyers had appealed the courts verdict so technically speaking the ruling was never implemented. That is the supremes irony of this case which caused such deep divisions in west German Society. Is against. Back then there was sharply defined concepts of right and wrong good and bad true and false and black and white. Thats only in the late one nine hundred ninety s. Did people start asking questions as coming in and annoyance koala when you saw it it people are more careful today weve learned that the legal system alone cant fight terrorism it also needs to be addressed politically and put it ishe you know there must be a very deliberate strategy of deescalation thats one studied the arias trial had a profound effect on judge brinn singh me it has caused a great deal of stress in my life. He only does not even ten years later he was still having a lot of trouble with and i think like you i dont think he ever talk to anyone about it not even my mother. He worked through it on his own meticulous. Gabriela been saying never actively supported the r. F. But for some time after the trial she remained captivated by the organization ideology. Both in your mind if i spend fifteen years dealing with that sort of garbage i mean its so much i think like that and im often ashamed of that. I should have come to the conclusion much earlier that although these people were human beings and had a radical and idealistic philosophy. They were still killers in the field i mean its kind of that should have been the bottom line for me. In april one thousand nine hundred ninety eight more than twenty years after the stomach im verdict the Red Army Faction formally announced that it had dissolved itself. When history books are brought to life. Maybe the stories theyre written will get to rewrite. The story of the russian revolution. From the perspective of writers thinkers and avant garde ists what did it feel like to live in times of a revolution the. One nine hundred seventy the real october starting october twenty fifth t w. What does a football loving country need to reach its goals. 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