They want to express d. W. On facebook and twitter up to date and in touch follow us. Inconceivable atrocities took place in the nazi era. Three european authors have written very successful crime novels and the third time. So why is this a fitting shondra for writing about this chapter of german history. Shapes a hormone war. I wrote a new r. Novel about paris during the occupation because the french know very little about those years should. And even less about the collaboration with the nazis but he almost the city itself becomes a protectionist in the novel this notion of a moment it was a violent time. Omen in some parts of paris people were partying while in other parts they were starving for no good no hes a quintessential elements of the war fiction one that loudly dont they sell still for money. Because of the price because of the fine my republic because of the nazis because of the cold war i think has been probably the most courteous changing citys most interesting city to write about was the must have you said from the point of view of a crime writer hoping to anywhere and so its good to write. The bible in berlin the final years but the most exciting time after that because of your apart from the economy everything was flourishing intellectual and cultural life and science and all that ended up broccoli one nine hundred fifty three its almost impossible to explain this cultural breakdown which was ultimately to wreak havoc on the entire world the crime novelist the best medium for understanding this period but the best to read. Philip was the first to create a German Police inspector who works in the third. Is based in berlin. After the nazi takeover and high stock fire the nature of policing changed opposition politicians were rounded up. A man with drafted in to work as exhilarate police. Increasingly jews became a target of persecution. In his novels kermit is history and fiction. Boss is detective superintendent. A modern Police Officer who introduced the use of Crime Scene Forensics he was also the inspiration for superintendent in fritz langs film. Yelling out. Your passion. Curse started out as a copywriter for saatchi and saatchi in london in the one nine hundred eighty s. First office the second one moment smile was when. That was the agency i worked in before i went to work. For a subject such. So yeah i worked in there for. Four five years. Across the street from because former office is the London Library was bored by advertising work so he turned to studying. And writing crime novels. I was very lucky because i mean you know. Working there and having this library here. That seemed like a really you know lucky charm they really knew i was gone it was like. I could be over here for an hour and nobody would notice. A sleeve my coat hanging on the back of the chair i come in here yeah exactly. Is this the first place. And i said to him interested in the whole phenomenon of for the nazi revolution and i wanted to understand it better and once i started to read german philosophy i i sort of started to get much more interested in how it all happened hes a kind of extension of me in a lot of ways hes big hes grumpy hes misanthropic. Hes some decent hes temperamentally unemployable. Most of your mo hes got a very dark sense of humor as i havent got a very black sense of humor myself but i find that some i find that chimes with berlin itself and it i think berlin is have a free a very dog sense of humor a cruel sense of humor. Perhaps its me growing up and skull on that neighbor the scots have a very cruel sense of humor and theyre cruel people. And so the cruelty comes out in the humor i think really and thats that in a way its the its the humor that makes it possible for the writer to get through the book without committing suicide. Writer and former journalist fuckwit child lives in cologne. His first crime novel was published in german in two thousand and seven it was the start of an Award Winning series about cologne native guinea on the hunt who also works as a police inspector. Gary on the raj carry on heart is a typical cologne native the church is important for him and carnival season is even more important hes not as catholic as his parents think he should be but hes more catholic than he realizes hes actually sort of agnostic his attitude is typical of his home city. Maybe there is a god so we should live our lives in a way that we just that we can to have and thats also how german comedian youre going back to put it in a grade of d. Minus is good enough its not a mortal feel you know survived. In contrast to philip begins his work in the weimar republic. Hes interested in how inspector hot deals with a transitional from democracy to dictatorship. And his fifth case hardison cologne for the famous monday carnival parade. In one nine hundred thirty three may a con had ordered the removal of swastika flags from the streets the parade motto was konovalov like it used to be. But nazi flags were everywhere. And racist and antisemitic themes also featured increasingly on the floats this reached its india in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. That here there will be gas. And by nine hundred forty five cologne in ruins. But in one thousand nine hundred eighty three gods world was still in pretty good shape he even had a flag after all it was khan of all time. Influence site and you miss a lot of on in those days things werent as primitive as they are today still at the carnival celebrations guys could find a girl everyone was in a party mood was told so found a woman but unfortunately he was already engaged that was not exactly appropriate this from so pleasant. And form a historian domenico not he lives in paris. The first crime novel was published in the one nine hundred ninety five. In two thousand and four she released her darkest novel yet which describes the brutal activities of the french to stop and during the occupation. David i get i dont get upcoming shows this shows that hes a was important at the beginning of the war the first thing the germans did was march down the boulevard. To keep us throughout the occupation they paraded here every morning and he. Said in my novel theres a scene that takes place at the end of the war thats because. It describes an endless procession of damaged tanks and very young soldiers have it be so. Eight years or more exhausted many are wounded. And theyre on their way home. Testing football this is the cover of the paperback edition photo. The photo shows paris residence during the occupation there standing under swastikas and flanks and fraternizing with the germans in effect at his su. Well known that you. And see a champagne glass in the foreground of all the atmosphere is very relaxed it shows ordinary people having a great time. The nazis chief character is a vice squad inspector who works undercover for the resistance and is in radio contact with london. He frequents the glamorous parisian salons and observes firsthand how easily the germans are corrupting french society. He belongs to both the resistance and the police has to play a street in conspicuous character at all times. Hes more into playing this role he has to appear completely insignificant. Absolutely more but under normal circumstances he wouldnt be like that at all but for the same oh. So long the conditions. In her book might not he also writes about a massacre of young resistance fighters that was carried out by the french gestapo in august one nine hundred forty four. We suppress exact among them so that actually happened in what events in. But i moved it to the board of law and. All novel writing is politics its a huge luxury to be able to write about you know the worst people in history. And himmler people like that they are. Its like race like dracula i mean the these are wonderfully villainous or for people to write about that are beyond invention novelists could invent a character as we could as hydra. This is general was one of the main architects of the holocaust incurs first novel march violets going to me titus who sends him to the concentration camp as an undercover agent its a painful experience for bernie. In later books had this evolves into his make this. Race was fully capable of being a loving father and a Brutal Police functionary the checks called him the blond beast. How did it was assassinated in prague in one nine hundred forty two in cares novel prague fatah hydrate has bernies lover checks by brutally tortured in his presence. So that scene came around because i just wanted to remind people of what these who these people were and what they did to people and what they were capable of doing to people you know. But equally the method that they used to interrogate their goal is what the cia are doing today so thats why its there are you know the nazis invented waterboarding or probably they didnt but they were certainly very effective at doing it so you know you with all the stories you want there to be a kind of. Something that resonates in the modern world. In january nine hundred forty two hailes presided over the vines a conference on the final solution to the jewish question. There it was decided that most of the jews in german occupied europe would be deported to poland and made it kirk has come here to do research for these of the. Worst of the worst. And they see. Hes wearing when he done after the war was declared he did a lot of time in the in the last one. He became first bullet came a real. Pain in the foot and went on bombing runs in this new way. And he really enjoyed it he just enjoyed seeing the back machine gunning. Another of his nazi era crime novels focuses on a Fictional Police conference that was held five months after the bands a conference. Is dead by then and she chairs the conference which is also held at the van save. The same time the International Crime of the century was being committed by many of the people sitting in the room and it just struck me as she always love these kind of ironies of history i love the sort of the bits between the lines of history that we dont know about i mean it was trite most people is absurd that they would they would do that but thats exactly what they did so you know here where were standing now there would have been in july nine hundred two. There with the beam policeman from all over you are standing here having a cigarette i mean cup of coffee and then going in there having lectures from various policeman and one of whom in the novel will be pentagon for. So bernie us turn up and make a speech in there so thats really what i was after im. Standing in that window thinking thats where he stands thats where the speech occurs and then they come up here and they have a cup of coffee and hes introduced to somebody who will be pivotal in the rest of the story whos a swiss policeman. In one nine hundred forty the nazis occupy paris. Minorities main character is the head of the french kostopoulos pierre bunny a highly decorated Police Officer and he controls all of paris together with former gangster all the love for. Both our collaborators and criminals those who oppose them fall out of windows will simply vanish for ever hell need. To do i guess that before were here at ninety three rule laurie stone in that chris was an infamous address during the occupation that it was the headquarters of the french to stop oh yes the people who bet your division. When a lot of money is building where bonnie and la phone had their offices was called lock erlang or the cockpit to. See. What this building witnessed many dreadful crimes who see many people were tortured here has a book. The french gestapo was a key element of the collaboration structure and next day it could be and i think paid dont mean huge because i. Feel need this is. The plus does it has uni just a few steps away. Day the frankest up a prison was located here at number three. On his nerves were kept here between interrogations. Before they were turned over to the germans ive owned and he was that. Only about twenty metres away from the gestapo prison at number eleven is the auto dunno why you during the war it housed one of the liveliest literary and artistic cellphones in paris. He there were two big cell phones one was run by florence the other by madame de no i. Met them to know i. Was the buildings are close together was every time i come here im struck by the contrast and it reminds me that people must have known what was happening here again your plea they could not have ignored it and this is where it all took place memo. That this year they extravagant parties and their torture and death. Memo and the buildings were right next to each other. The french upper class completely accepted the s. S. And they were mocked they dont mean the s. S. Men were more popular because their uniforms were much more attractive uniform but black is a lot more becoming than field gray. A pretty young guy who. The chief collaborators came to an inglorious and the germans abandoned them when they pulled out of paris. When la phone was taken prisoner after the liberation he said i spent. For years surrounded by orchids tell us and bentleys it was worth it for a phone was the rest of the day paris was liberated and was executed immediately. The his stance resistance means admitting that terrible things happened. The shows. If you dont talk about them you allow them to happen again. Hope you will. As this is instituted because you are the first that sentences are really important just like the last one as you appear to not just in the novel as a whole but in each chapter to get seegers thats the sentence ive got now is ok its ok it definitely gets you into the scene you know im but how im going to stop the book because well i can read it as its going to fall in the suggestive comments on their own very room was full of people muttering and clouds of cigarette smoke max hansens voice created from the phonograph speaker. Then comes a call from hanson books on sin city it. Had a good beat up for a. Minute do you. Believe me if you know he think you need to. Stop being labeled him and ill talk right of inishmaan how can i continue my daily routine when i realize that everything around me is changing radically and throws up the shaft others and i got to be careful used as one of us no more rule of law often and its easy to fall into the clutches of a wild pack of essay wolves thats bush didnt need one would never stick his neck out like phillip because benny going to no way as im going to know what he said totally different kind of character for that one doesnt sometimes i wonder how going to could have survived back then. Rod might have a big mouth in charlies present but never around anyone from the s. S. O. S. A. It was if we had was as they can all go projects i used to carefully plot out everything as you should do with crime stories the plot is really important but lots of ideas come to you while youre writing and thats great its surprising how many of these ideas you can use and how things work out differently than id imagined and thats not so bad because if i can surprise myself hopefully i can surprise my readers as well at least thats what im striving to achieve for us just as youve gotten most of. This is about getting on hard to look like in a new graphic novel. This is beyond your comic also in this is how the artist imagine same effect of being done for them heres gary on in front of headquarters on berlins alexanderplatz in the press and thats barely house. You can see the stop lights and power lines and of course a cigarette you better gear youll never leave home without your knowledge of. We all know. The especially novels written in the first person are the i. In the eye makes it more personal its like you yourself are meeting goebbels yourself or having to shake his hand and have a meeting and have a coffee and a cigarette with gerbils and you yourself are having to be careful about what you say so hopefully the choices the conversation brings you to. Brings bernie to the same choices that the reader would have which is you know how do i say how do i if this person what they want but without compromising my moral. My my true moral inner self how do i do that how do i not do everything he wants without ending up dead and so you know these are the things that interest me as a as a writer how to be how to walk that tightrope. Little. Girls was famously. Wanting. You seem to have had an affair with many actresses. Principally one called lead a bar over but he got a bit of a reputation as a ladies and it wasnt just the sort of rest of the third reich that made jokes about his sexual. Appetites it was pretty much so. And of course being in control of germanys Film Industry which was based here was like sort of. Putting this you know. A fact kid in charge of this weeks show really wasnt perhaps the best thing that could have. Could have happened. In cast early crime novel a quiet flame danny boldly climbs into the flask of yours if god is in the bathroom he leaves behind a most unpleasant calling card. I was asked myself what i would do you know and i guess thats what i would have done a fight but if i found myself in goebbels his bathroom you know i did yeah use this toilet and then flush it and. I got it as i think i probably told you earlier im going to sort of naturally dark sense of humor. Makes writing about nazi germany from a detective point of view so interesting because nobody is what they seemed. Just from a point of view and from a point of view of survival that quite often the good the good guys arent what they seem to be because they have to pretend not to be good guys its like bernie as old as i mean ive always been a big fan of his era the one nine hundred twenty s. And thirtys the berlin of the new york jets tipitinas meant and american gangsters from the twentys and thirtys. And for her thats one thing i devise i got from the emotion fest in the end of it ive always found them fascinating despite as i got the idea of combining the two after watching two fillets but i feel like its a standard wished in. Road trip one was road to perdition with tom hanks which came out around ten years ago. He did enough to me. When i was the other was with fritz langs am honest i thought and it takes place in one thousand nine hundred eighty one the same year that the film was made on. The road to perdition also takes place in one thousand thirty one but was shocked about seventy years later when a lot i could do it. Right there that. All of them. How did he break. Back to mike and the world featured in the road to perdition and the world of one nine hundred thirty s. Berlin it can also contemporaneous so why dont merge them thats how i got the idea for giving them oddities. To produce suspects definitions for the political aspect germanys Political Development is now the most important thing for me that b. F. S. Saw the idea to follow the course of this development it was the second step and. Then i had the idea to create a series that goes beyond ninety thirty three instead of having these gangster stories take place before nine hundred thirty three in a more or less normal society fix the mine shaft i want to use the crime novel to show how Society Changes us if you use it and for that for me much to anybody didnt know my crime novels usually tried to restore things to the status quo especially evil should be punished and locked away and gave me on does this the best he can he says but this is ultimately futile in the third reich and the criminals hes hunting up both the murderous and his superior as you know and hes in a rather bizarre situation and this is what i wanted to trade using she can root. For. This i have vivid memories of the third man its wonderful i always try to imagine those scenes when i write. These years sometimes i imagine scenes in black and white. Film noir has had an enormous influence on me. Thats. What the book now. And thats he also addresses the fact that many french artists including john cook told admired they german counterparts people like hitlers favorite sculptor. Cook doorway to. Play was a major collaborator he organized the big break or exhibition in paris in one thousand nine hundred two and wrote an introduction for it. To. Russia gets really who was fascinated with erotica visited the exhibition. He said its a good thing statues dont have erections otherwise thered be no room to move around. According Shasta Swapan there takes us comply purposely not equal. His publisher is based in new york. And when his books come out in the u. S. He travels around the country to promote them this time because wife jane time has come along americans love his blend of nazi horror and hard boiled detective fiction. And theres only one thing worse than being an american book tour and thats not being asked to do even america. Because its like its its. Theres a lot of adrenaline and its a performance. In new york he makes an appearance at a small but well stocked book store that specializes in crime novels the mysterious bookshop. Unlike his colleagues doesnt care much for standard readings he prefers to talk about his latest books. Over the years ive learned a little awful lot about this period and you know you read about one concentration camp or another or the holocaust and i became aware of the existence of this place in oh before me you can see it was called just the end of the church wasnt just the death count it was a murder and cruelty and killing cap. And that the cruelties that were practice there were unspeakable im not going to give into details but they put this way it was so bad that the original s. S. Detachment whod been sent. Back to berlin and said look can we leave this place it was so bad even the s. S. Didnt want to be there bags how bad it was. Theres a kind of a train parked in this field it was the death train rather like the sort of train arrived men women and children were taken off this train and they were they went on this little ferry across a river and on this island there were all these people waiting to murder them with axes and. And beheading has become a kind of a phenomenon that weve become weve become very familiar with in in the newspapers of late. These yugoslavian Roman Catholic priests who were principally responsible for getting. Nazi war criminals out. There was nobody worse than these people i think they probably killed. Between eighty and one hundred thousand people on this Little IslandRoman Catholic priests anyway that was the other thing why i want to write about the yugoslavs and the croats because its common as soon that it was the germans. Who. Killed people and we forget the role played by some of the other races in europe like like the crow. And there had been in auschwitz because i mean theres no scene in theres not really a scene in the book which is said. If there had been i would have got not yet well no i dont think there will be actually because i feel i would feel probably uncomfortable writing about it because i feel that. It was something that was so awful i think you know to try and describe it i think unless youve been there that you kind of earned the right probably to write about it if youve been there but i think you havent really really earned the right to write about it if you havent been there. And i had to say it was difficult because when i wrote from zagreb i had to go to this place this awful concentration camp. In bosnia called years and verge and. I felt i had to get permission from the people who had died there so i sort of stood in the sounds melodramatic but thats how it felt or stood in the cattle the the wagons transported the people on the train. The train is there so you can actually stand in these cattle cars and feel what it must have been like so i felt i had to sort of you know pray almost to the people and say look if im right about this i promise i will not you know its trivialize this and i promise i will be your. Turn. Ok. Professor now frank is get over you so you may want to. Know what the phone cameras require you to. See what youre about the qualities not think. It right. You know it is ok thank you so much. For. Paris august nine hundred forty four the citys new german commander general details from cultists has earned his respect by leveling so vast a pole with his socalled col seach gun. Hitler demanded that paris suffer the same fate. But fun call to ignore what his order is by then he had decided that hitler was insane. Some reports say that hitler phoned the general in a rage and screamed is paris burning. Not he writes about the battles between resistance fighters and german troops in the final days of the occupation. Hundreds were killed in the fighting. Some call to surrendered his troops on august twenty fifth. Later that day general shoulder gold arrived in paris as the leader of the provisional government of the french republic. The german up. Of the french capital. Residents celebrated. They also started punishing alleged. French women who had fastened with german soldiers who publicly humiliated this was the beginning of a partial rewriting of the history of. The nazi refuses to accept this interpretation. Its scapegoat politics so many things happened its time to come clean. In any case war has always been waged on the bodies of women. When you conquer a country you rape the women. In order to liberate the country you shave the heads of women. Or may not have slept with germans. Such uncivilized things didnt happen in the upper echelons. So. It was a way to deal with the horror of the war. Create a morally superior version of the past the. Crime novels because they represent my dark view of the world the war and the period of collaboration are perfectly suited for crime novels. That. Theres more pressure increased bit by bit more success means more pressure and you grow into it and its up to the office and im glad that my first novel babylon berlin wasnt immediately a huge success im going to have otherwise i would have had to keep chasing that success and even under bush going to cross did that his whole life because of the tin drum. It was kind of tragic love luckily i didnt suffer the same fate though ill never win a nobel prize with. This is. The one of the earliest forms of writing ever this is about five thousand years b. C. And these little marks on it were written by. An architect and these things used to these to put them in little holes in the bill in a building that theyd made and it was a description of who the architect was and it was like a little autobiography or a little. Like a little brass plaque on the wall. Thats right. You know i think its good to have a really early writing in front of you when when your team is because it just reminds you that really. Its the anything if you that will maybe last. Half. So much money and. Im going out. My character meeting me would be a pretty horrific experience hed almost certainly hate me. Because every and his life you know he would have had a good life for me this is the ambivalent relationship rices have with their characters because they know in their bones inside themselves they know their character would hate them. And mine would certainly hate me. Instead is it a far less at a time like you ask yourself what would i have done back then but you dont have an answer with your life you can come close to announce that through the novels through the situations that your characters get themselves into and through their actions and development and to make long. To untaught youll probably never find an onsite and. This is a maybe so not necessary. But its good if some readers think about it its all on his own and ask themselves the same questions that we do you know i mean what would i have done back then i said it and i was going left well i dont leave the best way to understand writers is through their books make this meeting was very nice but the book reveals all that lets see the evil. Just one more and then thats it and this really is the last line of the money ill say. And the Health Benefits will be so much alan are. 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