For writing one of the conditions for serbia joining the e. U. Is that you signed a legally binding agreement on peaceful relations with kosovo which declared its independence in two thousand and eight youve never recognize that these talks come and go sometimes theyre on sometimes theyre off why should the e. U. Bother with all this feuding and bilateral disputes that you have with cos over here too much trouble for the launch. I think as much as our interest is to join the e. U. I think the enlargement to cover balkans is also in the interest i think first and foremost European Union is a peace project and its a successful one because we have for the first time in history your long term peace in europe would you say that but they know you have made it clear havent they they cannot and will not import bilateral disputes junko deal because said it last year thats pretty clear isnt it it was clear theyre not going to point to a dispute with constable it is absolutely clear if you dont settle it there youre not going to get you know that is normal to me i think thats just natural thing to do i would ask that if i were the e. U. As well so youre not going to settle this any time soon youve admitted that yourself so theres not really no perspective for you joining in the foreseeable future is there i would one hundred percent disagree with you on that point because firstly the the soonest possible date for us to join the e. U. Is twenty twenty five so by twenty twenty five i think there is a possibility that we actually signed a long term normalization agreement with british really it doesnt look like it at the moment but im not saying that this will happen im saying that serbia is committed to it it doesnt depend on serbia alone it depends also on prishtina as well as on other allies of ours so i think were going into that in the direction of the e. U. For me whats important is that we actually implement all the reforms so that as a society politically economically we become fit for the e. U. Yeah but you say that and i want to come on to those reforms were along a little bit because the e. U. s far from happy with the state of your reforms but but last week though he loves i would also disagree with the phrase all girls will go through it in detail will go through it really into india large one strategy the e. U. Clearly identified serbia and montenegro as frontrunners are would say that is far from being this. Disappointed or run for us i was always getting fed up with the un at the sophia summit in may and later in london there was a pretty look or attitude to all six organ countries looking to join the e. U. No mention of any timetable for accession and some pretty clear opposition from the french president emmanuel markram wasnt that clear opposition look lonely let me just say i do not think that you have the right to say that you use fed up with us i dont think its diplomatic but i dont think you can say that on behalf of the e. U. If you look at what you know what mark really said given what he. Was fed up with us. Then we would not have any new chapters so and we do have new chapters being constantly opened and that the trend is that we are going towards the e. U. Well thats not a role it is a president micro who said what weve seen over the past fifteen years is a path that has weakened europe every time we think of enlarging it and i dont think we do a service to the count of countries or ourselves by having a mechanism that in a way no longer has rules and keeps moving towards more enlargement and though that was hardly welcoming you with both the rosary and i agree with president mccrone one hundred percent i do not think that enlargement in the past was particularly successful i think though likely to be with you can anything at all likely do with you and i think that the consequence of that kind of accession to the e. U. Is that the country whose accessing the e. U. Is weaker because its economy cannot compete its agriculture cannot compete they suffer from a huge brain drain and the e. U. Gets weaker so why dont you put your membership on hold stop taking the funds to sort out the bilateral problems with kosovo you know the other refer to them in our membership in four hundred how many fund how much money do you get from your yeah you are getting hundreds of millions youre getting much less than that were getting pretty accession funds and the pretty exception funds are exactly smaller than for the funds that the e. U. Member states are getting but youve given the impression that youre in it just for the money thats and that is completely that is completely not right you really have the president your president then you think himself just if i can just say or you can have your interview with yourself if i can just Say Something firstly weve always said to our citizens that we cannot and will not look at towards the e. U. As a pot of money that the. The better quality of life the jobs better salaries need to come from ourselves and the strength of our economy that we want to be part of the e. U. Because e. U. Is a peace project and we have shared values with the e. U. So if thats true why did president who challenged three years ago when he was Prime Minister make it clear when he told a meeting into rana we are fed up with seminars we need some money from the e. U. Funds then you see the smiles on our faces. That would be a clear indication that he was simply after the money would say that you took out the statement if its correct and i do not remember that it is a directive of the revolution on multiple news lately args of the context if anything president for to as the Prime Minister repeated lee said he you is not a pot of money for us we need to take of the care of our own economy our jobs our infrastructure the e. U. Is a different goal for serbia now whether were going to be ready by twenty twenty five to join the e. U. Is another question and i think if you asked me if the e. U. Said you can join to morrow and say no because we are not ready which would which would mean that again we get in a large amount in which serbia would be worse off and europe would be worse our very very current horrible i am more interested in the reforms themselves when it comes when it comes to cost of a promise to you keep raising the bar down to you now say that any final deal will have to be comprehensive it will have to include among other things human rights minority rights Economic Cooperation learning each others language and Cultural Heritage you settle this in the region through to the house that raising the bar is going to take a long time twenty years at least why should the e. U. Wait around for a while who says that you will wait around for that if it takes twenty years obviously we want to join the e. U. Who says that you will wait around whos asking the e. U. To wait you are you continuing with your membership application and you but of course so you wanted to wait around but of course because we want to become members of the e. U. But i am more interested in the reforms once we implemented reforms the e. U. Will come as a natural called consequence of these reforms if they want to wait for and thats fine if they dont want to wait around thats also fine too not that there will not change europe or not mind whether they wait around or that they will not change. Serbian policy is a little bit we are what were doing in terms of the reforms were doing first and foremost because of our own citizens and our businesses for the quality of life of citizens in serbia ok well lets talk about let me just tell im not real you see auntie to understand what the e. U. Is for us firstly the reforms on our e. U. Accession parth mean that we have strong stable economy that we have we implemented Structural Reforms that will lead to strong stable economy what about monetary rights and press freedom things lab at the minute what about the first real if you let me finish ill come to that the second pillar is efficient transparent public and Public Administration the third pillar is the rule of law more stronger more independent but also more efficient and more accountable judiciary talk about press freedom one of the most glaring failures of your government has been your refusal to protect freedom of speech in february the council of europes Human Rights Commission said the atmosphere in which journalists work in serbia appears to have deteriorated quite seriously especially with the smear campaigns against journalists with some bulletins calling them traitors foreign agents and mercenaries you have denied that any of this is the case but europe isnt buying your denials as well firstly i see that there is a freedom of media in serbia i see no smear campaigns again i journalist i see criticism. Of the present of myself of the government every single day in the media as it should be what about this as it means in a Democratic Society promise to let me give you an example Alexander Mcqueen of a senior official of your Ruling Progressive Party he labeled the head of the independent Journalists Association a voyage void in a and enemy of serbia because he made critical comments about the authorities is not acceptable is the enemy of serbia im not saying that its acceptable for your sake it doesnt happen well for one thing im saying that there is a Media Freedom and insert here im saying that there is that there is me and there certainly as a risk in which journalists work in serbia appears to have deteriorated quite honestly because some of these absolutely do not agree with that in serbia i think we have makes it up listen in serbia. About ten years ago or a little bit over the over the when we actually had it democratically the macross tickle your young Third Political party in power the members of the Ruling Coalition kicked physically kicked journalists. The the so you think its untrue moment now that the john threatened now there are certain the Anti Corruption council so that media is completely politically influenced i think we have a lot to deal with in serbia and we are dealing with it and i think the situation is improving and by no means by no means worse than in last nights event last month an official from the Security Information Agency that marco resigned the rich so the greatest threat to serbia of a foreign agents working in media nongovernmental agencies and opposition parties its an easy smear isnt it talk about foreign agents in the media when you have no evidence for that what it is absolutely ridiculous to quote one Public Servant at the conference where the president of serbia talked about threats and id talked about threats and you have the president and the Prime Minister talking about about threats which is migration terrorism Cyber Security and costs when the talk here and no one is quoting that the actual official policy of serbia has never ever said so you can immediately as you know not even this is all taken out of context in this latest i think that you had two of the highest official of of serbia saying what the threats are and everyone disregarding this just so that someone can take words of one single Public ServantPrime Minister in family with a case in its latest report in april the european Commission Said the fact that no progress had been made to safeguard freedom of expression was a matter of increasing concern that was in april serbian north already said the commission need to provide active support to independent bodies human rights defenders and independent journalists and promptly react to and publicly condemn the threats. Against them so why dont you do what the commission asked you to of done exactly the thing that the commission asked me to do and were very sorry you have and thank you for your over the years but lets see lets see the Upcoming Group port thank you for that question actually in fact as the Prime Minister i searched on with all the media representatives talk to them about how what we can do to come up with a Credible Media strategy theyve asked me for me personally to run this the working group are actually in my cabinet in my team and not under the ministry of culture and information that we have the working group. To work on the media strategy this is exactly what were doing right now with the support of the European Commission that is the european delegation in serbia. The corner of the stiff tongue the oil sea and the Region Embassy in serbia ok and this and also the media not having through to europe this is the only thing of truth to you you will see in the next really in the upcoming really port and and all access to montreal from asia where we see improvements there and well also of course really was we have in the meantime i was not going well either resident if i can just not go well live is if you know its going really well really show ill tell you also the media representatives are that we have it called the nation body also under my cabinet as the Prime Minister which will in parallel with media strategy work on resolving adhoc issues that media have in serbia weve agreed to that as well we are doing that they meet once a month and they are already resolving issues if you want to you know i was my government is the first government to actually implement the open data policy we have we have we are doing that together and like i mentioned earlier we have adopted the parliament has adopted law the law in the government which makes opening data in serbia i understand that earlier this year the pound is a lot of euro seems to me that you do understand i understand what youre saying but the e. U. Disagrees with the insurgents the council of europe and the Human Rights Commission who complained in his report earlier this year that things with regard to access to information are not going well the government is not implementing the recommendations of the commissioner for information of public importance and the parliament is not discussing his reports you want to continue down this road because theyre not buying your denials of this. Im not saying that these are denials the. So much work to be done and im saying gus said i said yesterday. At the conference of Konrad Adenauer stiffed them i think if we look at our you integration in three key pillars economy Public Administration rule of law by far the most was done in the economy i would say in terms of Structural Reforms eighty five percent of the job has been done which is shown in the numbers that serbia has right now our g. D. P. Growth in this year was four point five percent our unemployment coughed are. We are the World Leaders in the eye of traction in terms of Public Administration reform public pub probably fifty percent of the job has done still a long way to go in terms of the rule of law thirty percent has been done so we have a long long way to go you have a long way to go on the issue of war crimes as well but the e. U. Is still not satisfied with you perform well in you you are certainly not one hundred percent satisfied go are far less than one hundred pas now would say that serbia by far is the best case example in the region of how to deal with the war crimes really valued january twenty sixth in the may twenty seventh in serbia had no formally appointed war crimes prosecutor and that account for seventeen months and thats about was that was a way of showing your willingness to deal with this as i dont know and trust that you can you can absolutely disregard everything that serbia has been doing. With respect to the war crimes since two thousand since the last eight hundred years ok and who has a gun read. The most of all other countries and according to the great action plan for a trip to twenty three of the e. U. Application five additional deputy prosecutor should have been appointed by the end of the twenty seventeen why were. If you are doing everything you need to do. Well to be honest i dont know the answer to that question but weve appointed them now and i have to say that you know you have you know priorities first and serbia literally four years ago was three months away from Bank Bankruptcy which goes to say that we really had to focus all of our effort all of our strength on very difficult very unpopular Economic Reforms you cannot do everything at the same time so far theres been no indictments against senior military or Police Officials for war crimes there are currently fifteen cases ongoing the majority involve low ranking military or Police Defendants whats the deal the higher ups the Senior Officers get away with it in the lower ones take the prosecutions is that it could go i. Do not agree with you and again i think that serbia has done by far the most still you know still there is job to be done but i think that serbia and i am absolutely proud with how serbia has handled our issues from the past are you are you proud of the trend in serbia that the points to to see former war criminals as heroes or role models do you subscribe to them no i do not i do not i think that you know we see in other countries in the region that the war criminals actually war or indicted war criminal so actually have official that all says advisors to the president s or in the government you know we have we see some being even the Prime Ministers but in serbia you do not have those kind of things you have the millers out of it for instance convicted for crimes against Ethnic Albanians of a quarter of a cause if youre going to lecture at the Serbian Military Academy not he was convicted he served his sentence he was released his in serbia now he was one time a lecture just like. Sure at the military academy or nor if im not mistaken on what was the call but. During the mid nato Bombing Campaign over serbia so hes not appointed the lecturer at the military i think our last scene of each convicted of similar acts later be appointed to his own position as a member of the executive council of the Serbian Socialist Party happy with or that is serbian socialist part this is nothing to do with the government has nothing to do we deal fishel functions your hundreds of little serbia really have been the time into public life and these people have these what do you want to do with these people if they were convicted serve their sentence to you and you were released do you want us to love them up in serbia so they can not show their faces im going to sit in Parliament Like voiceless for instance what should i remember says hes proud of all the war crimes and crimes against humanity that were i will remind you i will remind you while talking about the whole of law and voice of session handed himself to the Hague Tribunal voluntarily had in thirteen years thirteen years trial is that what you call who love law and was then acquitted came back to serbia and then incredible was overturned this year it was overturned it was overturned but thirteen years is all your sentence by and thats free because of time so of course of course this still whole all him at least three years of his life. Their money or step on or is this summer some are now money a stepparent of it from the center for humanitarian law in Belgrade Serbia has not moved an inch from the time when the wars were being fought in the one nine hundred ninety s. As one after another war criminals are released and give a Service Given a ceremonial reception by the government on their return theyve been ushered back into Public Institutions he said im just telling you thats not true so he can say well you know that he doesnt know what hes talking about i disagree with him so and to say that serbia hasnt done anything is unbelievable i didnt say i havent done anything i said the offer code into the e. U. As im done enough ok perhaps we can do more and and we will to ensure the rule of law in serbia and to end in to deal with the past and turn towards the future serbia will do its part but i would actually caution everyone not to really look at serbia alone but to also look at what other countries in the region are doing those doing whats expected of it for you include acknowledging that the massacre at srebrenica in one nine hundred ninety five was genocide you were asked in may last year by the council of ministers a council of europe to recognize srebrenica genocide youve never done that are you prepared to do that no i do not think that the terrible crime massacre in stride but it was a genocide you must know that unless you take this step the chances of you joining me European Union are very slim i know i dont know. We because it was a huge use crime it was a war crime i am not happy because of it it wasnt done in the name of serbian people and serbian cannot serve serbs cannot be called actively. Be blamed for what happened there two courts the International Criminal tribunal for tribunal for the former yugoslavia an International Court of justice both ruled that it was genocide. And you wont accept it i do not think it was a chance cite your rewriting history and you trying to rewrite history i do not think it was a genocide i think it was but let me just say it seems like you know you know i think it was it was a terrible terrible crime but genocide is basically when you are genocide is when you are you know killing the entire population the women children and this was not the case in two thousand and four the presiding judge of the criminal tribunal for the former yugoslavia said by seeking to eliminate a part of the Bosnian Muslims the bosnian serb forces committed genocide they targeted for extinction the forty thousand Bosnian Muslims living in srebrenica a group which was emblematic of the Bosnian Muslims in general thats why it was labeled genocide. And if you say you were not if you if you cant accept it why should i stop thing it was a terrible crime serbia delivered the person who was charged with more crime weve delivered that person he was on trial hes in jail but you wont accept the step which the council of europe asks you to accept that it was a genocide yeah im telling you it was thats your red line is it im telling you youre never going to do it i told you my answer. I miss them i love from the beach thank you very much you know. Get. Gifts. To. The be. Good to. Get. The but. Lets. Talk about the. Let the but. Let. Me. Welcome aboard. Make yourself comfortable. Please try our inflight food. And our fitness center. Enjoy the spectacular view. Point your fellow who wishes you a pleasant flight. Lift off tomorrow. Confused enough teetotal. Read the real power that resides. 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