Id you know, on this channel we are not afraid to pass and then it keeps popping. The young people clearly have distribution, the future of the 77 percent every weekend on dw, the Global Leaders descending onto delhi india as well as being the g 20 summit against the backdrop of the surging economy. And with a challenging agenda, well have the latest from the summit also on the show with this years munich mobility show heading into its final days, full of expert analysis on when e car batteries will finally cost less. Last longer. Chris cold, welcome to the program. Global leaders have been arriving at the indian capital to convene at this years g 20 summit. And theyre touching down in a country whose gdc is among the Fastest Growing of any major economy. And were just paused to overtake the economies of germany and japan. And the coming years, and it is this environment that many well educated indians want to be part of, rather than working abroad. Ive had you guys all very good morning. Welcome to our Design Team Meeting at holland mobility. A started up located in the southern indian metropolis of hyderabad. She called the heads of the company a 29 years old. He studied Telecommunication Sciences in italy and spain, but returned to india to found his company 3 years ago. Ready already run so more than 2500. 00 electric scooters to customers like delivery drivers, for example. He chose to base is operations in india primarily because of the enormous customer potential. So theyve got dealing with 1400000 population here. And that population needs different types of solutions, and thats the benefit anyone would get on top of it. The young generation that the india has. And that is what is going to drive the whole and make the simple one of the superpowers ill get. No economy is currently growing as quickly as indias within 4 years. Its expected to surpass germany and japan does. Growth is reflected in many startups like holland mobility. When we start doing, you know what we need to in the novel, we thought it would be a 2 way. Cuz right on that same year, wed scale it up between the and then the next 5 years with a 10200 weight because from data we scale the journey to pause in our numbers. We picked up our 1st round of investment last year with the investment big do 400 percent times the entrepreneur also get support from the t hubs center in hydro bod. Its a state funded project that advises and supports start ups like ready is from their inception all of this one building. Would it be housing or on 1000 and startups . As 1000 new ideas, new businesses, new innovation was i wanted to be made out of you. And this is one geography can location in height that about that. So i think that is a good spot that we are on the india is growing not just in population and economic strength, but a growing defensive identity for tech hubs like hyderabad. Lets take a closer look at this g 20 gathering with dw correspondent, Charter Carter k, who is outside the g 20 venue in delhi. And roger, this was the single for he is executive director and asia pacific chief economist at s and p Global Market intelligence. A welcome to both of you, roger, let me start with you. India has outgrown china is here as the most populous country in the world. Its vp as among the Fastest Growing of n or major, any major economy. What role does do these facts play for india in hosting a summit . I think the g 20 summit chasing place in june gallery is happening at a historic moment for india, with its growth rate, the fastest and the g 20 this year. And also having surpassed china, which for many years was the Fastest Growing large economy. So i think india is now looking like youre going to become one of the most important emerging markets in the world. Are full cost is that india will become the 3rd largest economy in the world by 2030. So i think the g 20 summit very much for us. A spotlight on india. There was a business summit ahead of that. She 20 leaders summit, which brought together many of the worlds leaders, are multi nationals for in dialogue. So i think were seeing far greater focused on india for multi nationals to invest and for trade. And also i think for china warranty, co exchange with india. And of course they also the g 20 summit just trying to deliver is also a charge over to you in the us g. 20 sure of us as the leaders final declaration is almost ready and will be a quote, voice of developing countries. Yet from the outside it seems that there are quite a few stumbling blocks. The war in ukraine, for example, or vital Climate Change action. Tell us more as well. Yeah, cuz what i can tell you is that earlier this morning that will be the report that the g twentys headphones meeting that concluded yesterday. It was especially inconclusive as far as the dictation instead of and they would report that india was trying to accommodate china and rush has been sense, visited your brain in the take the nation to rich. Almost all of the entire western block objected, and therefore it didnt really work out now. Uh, this is wendy said problem. Its outcomes was obvious the austin question in the press conference that i attended. Yeah, at the International Media center which is very close to the actual venue of the g 20 summit. And im a top guns was was the, was a cautious given group. Like you said that as sherpa it is our job to give recommendations, the leaders. But this is the lead to somebody. So what is that to the leaders, whether they will accepted or approve it or not . So that was very cautious. The dog is sort of the response that im, its, ive gone in fact all the n e a senior funk studies were present that they gave, but there was a dotted and those responses as far as that question is concerned. And that sort of explains the situation, is the ones that a, that india is in, uh, is it a separate report and these reports have been consistent that things have not been working out. Do you think continues to be the bone of contention . But what actually happens, we just need to wait for 11 day more to find the w correspondents are cards again, delhi and roger visit was executive director and asia pacific chief economist at s and p Global Market intelligence. Thanks to both of you. Now prior to the meeting and delay, the un secretary general urged d 20 leaders to do more against a climate crisis. Which in the words of antonio terrors is spinning out of control the harmful impact of emissions as force the Auto Industry to switch to electric vehicles. Ideally, powered by renewable energy, but the batteries have plenty of room for improvement. Many consumers would be happy to switch to a car that doesnt to med Carbon Dioxide and other greenhouse gases. But theyre put off by drawbacks a lot of electric vehicle share. You cant drive far on a full charge and charging up takes time. The conventional lithium ion batteries that power todays electric vehicles are bumping up against physical limits and sharp. They will be improvements and currently be my batteries. But they will ultimately be a limit to how far you can take that conventional vehicle. Batteries have a positive and a negative electrode. These are immersed in a liquid called and electrolyte. They can transport lithium ions. Theres also a separator layer in between to keep the battery from short circuiting when its charged and ready for use. The lithium is stored on the negative side, as the battery discharges, producing electricity to power the car. It turns the stored lithium into ions that move to the liquid electro, like medium crossing the separator to the positive electrode. In a solid state battery, the liquid electrolyte is replaced by a solid electrolyte made from high tech materials. Lithium ions move through it in a similar way, but because of the electrolyte as solid short circuit scroll much less likely and the separator can be removed. Solid state batteries can be made smaller than those that use liquid electrolytes because you can replace the material in the negative electrode with a thin layer. A few are lithium, which has a much Higher Energy density that has how much energy i have in my back be to kilograms of mass. Im roughly right now. That is about 251 hours per kilogram. Now if we can have a solid state that theres been some prototypes which are around 400, maybe 500. What, how is the kilogram . So were talking about a doubling of the energy density, which would include the, the give you a doubling of the range of your electric vehicle. Solid state batteries can therefore carry a higher charge in less space. And small ones are already used in devices like smart watches or pacemakers. They also charge faster and are less likely to catch fire or explode. But despite headlines that theyre destined to revolutionize the electric cars segment, some major engineering and production challenges still have to be overcome. Lets talk some more about these batteries with Eric Williams from dw science whos report you just saw. What comes the studio, derek. A battery is the heart of an electric vehicle. Lets put it that way. And just as any heart does, battery does last forever replacing. It is very expensive. When will cost come down . Well, thats kind of the 1000000. 00 question, isnt it . I mean, on the one hand were in creasing capacity, our manufacturing capacity and administrator is expected to double more than double by the year 2030 in terms of with me on my, on batteries and, but at the same time were going to be running into, into kind of some, some, some braking things which could be, for example, lets say im left him good. Proved to be a bottleneck. So theres plenty of letting him there, but we have to still get it out of the ground. So there are these, there are these factors that are made either unsure. On the one hand weve got the passive scale up, which should bring the cost down. On the other hand, weve got potential bottlenecks. So lots of moving parts. Lets keep talking about a big issue here. A big issue on price ends on gravity is range. How long will range be an issue . Well, thats one of the things that the solid state batteries have been designed to, to address one of the issues along with the safety and project that are the, the, the, the, the ability to, to charge them. And have them run for up to 111200 kilometers on the question. A big question moving forward is going to be whether we actually even need that. Um, because as, as we build out our charging infrastructure, but at the moment it still happens to be quite an issue. And thats an issue that solid st. Batteries can possibly address. And on that note, toyota claimed only a couple of weeks ago that it could make a battery that would have a range of 1200 kilometers and which could be charged in around 10 minutes, a solid state battery problem solved. Well, it sounds that way back, you know, toyota has also made promises before that it hasnt lived out to in terms of launching Solid State Electronics ends and solid state batteries. Um, i would say that that just because something works and allowed doesnt mean that it works necessarily in real life. And i think toyota and other carmakers as they developed this technology further are going to probably start with demonstrator plans and demonstrator models cuz no car maker likes a recall and. And thats just installing the solid state batteries in cars, has the potential to do that. So i think that i would wait to see actually if toyota managers to launch this in the next 3 to 4 years as promised, derek williams, of the w science. Derek, thank you very much. I us and that is our soul for an armoire for more check out our website at www. Dot. Com slash business, or the dw, use youtube channel. Of course cobra roland for me and the entire team. Thanks for watching. Have a great, the julie right . God. None of the way around is strictly scientific trip to some pretty cheap places. Curiosity is we tried tomorrow today. Next, on d, w. Our specialties. 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