A great collection of books from england. And my job was to dust every day. My father was totally doest the books but dont read them. In one nine hundred ninety one or korea was awarded the prestigious man booker prize for fiction for his novel the famished road the book addresses the coexistence of the spiritual and Material World through the life of the spirit child living in an unnamed nigerian city. The river became a road. On the road branched out to the whole world. Because the road was once a river it was always hungry. The author is in berlin to headline the african book festival which starts on thursday and of crete is a philosopher a mesmerizing and thought provoking all thought and someone whos not afraid to step up and speak his mind. Joins me. Thank you very much thank you for correcting me about the pronunciation of your neck see its a pleasure to be and im glad you disobey joe father and read the books i think everybody is. You said the famished wrote the book a prize winning book you wrote it to give yourselves reasons to live things evolve sea change a great deal for you since then so what inspired the new book the freedom artist i think i wrote the freedom artist. Myself some of the central questions that i feel faces us as human beings. And faces us in our time. How free are we. What are we prisoners of what ideas or cultural assumptions what political ideology is what limited visions of the world we prisoners of and indeed the book which i have here as the freedom artist it has a title almost or sometimes above it who is the prisoner can you reveal that or can anybody reveal that you know i think if you have to read the book and you have to do a lot of contemplation you have to ask yourself questions its a its a question directed at the world or not the individual is a piece of graffiti its an act of rudeness or Great Questions are a bit rude. And then also in the book. This is the sleep police i also came across the phrases to be like everyone else was the highest distinction a citizen could hope for in a few pages later it had therefore been decided that everyone would be spied on this for me has shades of elders huxleys great book brave new world was that intentional and inspiration that side yes the freedom artist is very much in our very great tradition. Outspoken books about the human condition books that ask this or could questions books like brave new world ninety two full cup because the trial. Their books of the Twentieth Century their books. Look at. The state the individual in the state when the state has become or could. And difficult illusion to the individual and i feel were living in a strange time the idea for this before but twenty years. But its only recently that the full pressure of it became necessary this leads me on to the inevitable question about. The subject concerning your adopted country written before we go after next from a poem you wrote about breaks it you tell me to read it so i will have delegated do the yes wonderful responsibility just a little a little bit to fold is not to fall from space or height it is to pull from unity from one but it is easier to walk out than to work it out easier to fall apart than to Stay Together the romance of independence of freedom is stronger than the truth of unity. Bearing that in mind and also in your new book you talk of a fictional society that is tearing itself apart is that whats happening in britain now do you feel yes i think britain has been the most divided ive known it in all the years ive been. Division is is its not a superficial one its actually very deep very passionate. And i dont know how its going to be healed because its not just the first of division its. Its a deep question of identity and history you also wrote a very beautiful poem about the grand disaster. Tragedy i should say rarely cow can poetry help in situations like that terrible tragedy and indeed wrecks it. I think most in poetry is eminently good it is. Touching the so. Its good it resonates and i humanitys good at reminding us. Of the things that connect us. Poetry is very powerful helping us to really. And really appropriate. Our humanity. Very briefly. I dont revise president of penn the Worldwide Association of writers which of course concerns itself with freedom of speech. I have feeling the feeling that things are getting worse for journalism writers very briefly do you yes things are getting worse for certain for journalists because in many troubled areas where journalists must speak the truth and when you speak the truth in those places sometimes are killed i have a very good friend who died. She was a legendary reporter. But i think that just strengthens actually the necessity of what writers and journalists and poets do absolutely ben operates been a pleasure having you here thank you very much a day adventures online thank you. Now our continuing series baking bread where our europe correspondent matters is investigating this staple from every e. U. Member states all twenty seven of them or perhaps twenty eight if he does britain very soon also dog fills us in on the local political situation as hes needing of dough and talking of dough dealing with it is an important part of the multis economy. In malta or if you say someone spread. It means that person has a lot of dough. Letterbox Companies Gambling and tax avoidance other bread and butter of the e. U. Smallest state regulation. Who wants to do without but all this for all capers on their bread especially on a traditional multis slice. 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Tough love tough needing eight minutes in the Food Processor he hasnt lost his bread as they say and mulder meaning his job in fact nobody has lost their job in the wake of the journalist morta. Brussels is demanding action malta needs to show to europe and indeed the world its rules and regulations are healthy and robust. As healthy and robust as montis bread sourdough is a top helper for the intestinal police good bacteria that wash out the toxins and doubled the dough in just two to three hours. But dont wait too long or their gluten britches will collapse something else. Experience off. Now poor out the door and handle with kid gloves just like multi continues to treat those mega corporations. Finally bake for thirty minutes at two hundred fifty degrees celsius on a hot stove just like mulch on the island has always been a sunny stepping stone between continents for the greeks the romans the arabs the normans the french and the british. But at some point the fire went out of no guns are now demanding this for all the shady dealings to. Cause another multi. You cant have it for money and why would you with bread like this simply define. That soul for today we leave you with some quotes from our guest ben okorie which may give you some food for thought thanks for watching and join us at the same time tomorrow if you can buy. Move. To move in. Does. Appreciate music. For a swiss cheese maker is trying it out of. His lemon tolerance same sort of one to have loving attention. And he plays music for it as well so can you taste the difference was the idea that cheesy. Thirty minute on t. W. Board or. D. Q. You know that seventy seven percent obama are younger than six oclock. Thats me and me and you. Dont know what time the voices. On the seventy seven percent talk about the issue of my view from the politics of flashes from housing boom boom boom town this is where it is. Welcome to the seventy seven percent. Speed to six g. W. Are we alone its a fundamental question on humanity trying to figure out whether or not. Life existed on mars pretty clear water was there quite abundance while that would be interesting so on mars the atmosphere is one hundred of what we have here on earth its very very cold and at the fast its like antarctica you could imagine bringing some supplies and you know if you do end build a little selfcontained pressured vehicle or vessel which would be on the surface there are things like oxygen that you can harvest from the atmosphere to help make living possible. If you want to think of humanity if we really want to survive for ever were going to have to move off the earth eventually and i know that seems a little crazy but youve got to start somewhere. Venezuelas self declared president on a point though his challenge to authorities to arrest him after the countrys government controlled assembly stripped him of his immunity why dont has been engaged in a power struggle with president Nicolas Maduro for months in january he declared himself president and was immediately recognized by the United States and to