Happy birthday and hasnt Geraldo Rivera been exposing himself a little too much . Oh not shocking. This is viewpoint. [ theme music ] john good evening, im john fugelsang. This is viewpoint. Thank you so much for joining us. America continues to grapple with issues of race in the after matthew of George Zimmermans acquittal for the murder of Trayvon Martin. And as legislators considered a host of bills to fix racial profiling laws, president obama unexpectedly weighed in on the case in very personal terms. Trayvon martin could have been me. 35 years ago. When you think about why in the Africanamerican Community at least theres a lot of pain around what happened here, i think its important to recognize that the Africanamerican Community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesnt go away. John a wide variety of mostly peaceful marchs followed this weekend. Thousands of protesters marched in solidarity across new york, atlanta, los angeles, and several other cities. Our first guest tonight was a featured speaker in one of those rallies in washington, d. C. Joe madison known as the black eagle, host of the joe madison show on sirius Xm Satellite Radio weekdays from 6 00 a. M. To 10 00 a. M. Eastern. Thank you for that kind introduction, i appreciate being here john. Its good seeing you again. John of course, of course, as you know Many Americans are furious, many of our viewers are angry, but theyre also tired of wellintentions talk that never mansions to change anything. Now you, sir have spoken extensively to make sure that this is a movement and not just a moment, what do you mean by that . Well, let me give you something that the late professor ron walters who was the longserving chairman of of Science Department of Howard University said to me when i asked him what was the difference between a moment and a movement. He said the real difference is sacrifice. That those people who participated in the Civil Rights Movement they sacrificed a great deal. Many of them sacrificed their jobs, their marriage, their education and of course their lives. So we cant let Trayvon Martins death and the subsequent trial just become a moment where everybody gathers at rallies and then they go home back to their businesses, back to their work, back to school. It has to be a movement. You heard the president john, mention that there is a lot of pain. Pain leads to passion. Thats what you saw this weekend, and what youve seen throughout the foregoing weeks is the passion. Passion has to lead to a purpose. So what is the purpose . Well, there may be two or three purposes. Some people think that the Justice Department ought to havethe purpose ought to be to file against Trayvon Martins civil rights. I think one of the purposes is twofold. One is the stand your ground law. It is bad law. Its simply bad law. The reason that law exists is because people got elected. They passed the law in some 30plus states. Both of these state legislators if you look at their victory most of them got elected by small margin. So i think the common denominators in all of this is going to be the vote. The ballot. That means 2014 has to be a pivotal moment. What really happened, john, is that we made history in 2008. Then we literally sat on our butts in 2010 and allowed the tea party to use their pain of watching obama get elected turning it into passion and then they decided our purpose is going to be to tie up in government so that he and others cant governor. So we have to turn pain into passion, and passion into purpose. John i admire the use of the phrase movement, not a moment, and for many it calls to mind the debate after sandy hook. Is this going to be an onetime out pouring of grief or is sustained action going to come from many individuals . Do you think the movement is narrow justice for this one man tragically murdered or is it bigger than stand your ground. Oh, its much bigger than stand your ground because remember the same people who gave you stand your ground have given you laws that have impeded peoples votes. Theyve give you these laws that require voter i. D. In which wisconsin look what happened to the union and working people. Look at what has happened to the city of detroit. That could have been avoided by, again, a legislature that got elected, and a governor that got elected that wouldnt do revenue sharing, wouldnt accept the deals that unions worked out. As a matter of fact i find it fascinating, and i know im swimming up stream here, that were spending more time about a baby future king born in Great Britain than we are about a major metropolitan city that has just gone bankrupt. And the reasons behind it. John indeed. So it is much broader because its not just one agenda, its a multitude of issues. But they all come back to the common denominator, i think and thats the ballot box. Thats why i think 2014 is going to be key. If we dontits much the same way as the Civil Rights Movement movement. The Civil Rights Movement led to get rid of jim crow laws. What we have now and i said this on saturday, its not just jim crow. Its james crow esquire. Its a sophisticated form of jim crow. Look magazine in 1963 had a series of editorials and oped pieces where seven elected officials said racismget this, this is going to sound strange. Racism wasnt the problem. Segregation was. And you think wait a minute, what are you talking about . Well, you know, the stand your grouped law is bad law because once again its disproportionate disproportionately impacts a group of people. Can you imagine if Trayvon Martin had shot george zimmerman, do you honestly think he would have been given his gun, it would have taken 45 days to arrest him . Until there was a demonstration . Not in the united states. John we never would have heard of either of these gentlemen if that had been the case. No, no, we wouldnt have. By the way when the president says trayvoni could have been Trayvon Martin 35 years ago heres the thing that i said to people on my show. Trayvon martin could have been barack obama. John joe madison host of the joe madison show on sirius Xm Satellite Radio. Thats a brilliant point. Thank you. Thank you. John on capitol Hill John Mccain spoke glowingly of the president s remarks. The senator who doesnt care about reelection and he knows of a controversial law that should be given a second look. Stand your ground law is something that needs to be reviewed by the Florida Legislature and any other legislature oh who has bassed such legislation. Im confidented of the arizona legislation will. Senator cruds said he thinks this talk about changing stand your ground legislation is just the obama administrations way to get at gun control. Whats your reaction . I dont draw that conclusion. John dont tell sarah palin hes being a maverick again. Lets bring more voices to this discussion. Basil smikle professor at columbia university. And karen hunter teaches journalism at Hunter College. And so you just saw the clip. Senator mccain praising president obamas remarks on race and calling for a review of stand your ground. What do you make of a republican doing this, basil . I think its a great stance for him to take. Lets remember who john mccain was, he has been and is a maverick in his party for a very long time. When he ran against bush, the republicans excoriated him for some of the positions he took. He didnt even fit into this Mainstream Republican Party at that time. Now clearly the tea party has taken it him way to another stratosphere but i like this john mccain. John karen, as we saw harry reid going behind mcconnells back for filibuster reform to mccain is he enough of a presence to make something happen . First of all, we can discuss whether the stand your law is the issue or culprit here, which i dont think it is. But i agree with basil, john mccain laying down the gauntlet. Hes an elder statesman. He knows history and he knows how to walk across the aisle and he has done that throughout his career until he had that oopsy moment with the governor of alaska. Now hes back to himself, and hes realizing the Political Capital that the republicans thought they had, they really dont have. The 9 rating that congress has thats telling them what theyre hearing rhetorically out on the campaign trail. He realizes he needs to get back to who he is, he is a man who knows how to get done things in washington because he knows how to get things done in washington, and hes done it. John let me ask you about tavis smiley. Tavis has been on this show, and heavily criticized president obamas remarks. He tweeted a quote and tavis did not back off from offending africanamericans and most liberals on meet the press. This is not libya. This is america. On this issue you cannot lead from behind. What is lacking in this moment is moral leadership. The country is begging for it. Theyre craving it, and i disagree with the president respectfully that elected politicians cannot fill this position on race. Hes the right person in the right place at the right time. But he has to step into his moment. John tavis smiley has made what i think are fair critiques of the president over the years. What did you guys think of his most recent comments. I was listening to joe madison talking about pain and passion. What was swirling in my head was another phrase, poverty pimps. Its interesting to me first of all, lets put it out on the table. Tavis smiley has had a problem with the president since did he not show up to his state of the black union in 2008. He was very upset about that. And he and cornell west went on a campaign to do everything to their power to discredit the president as much as it hurt them. But theyve had fair critiques. If i dont like you and i critique you do i have the same credibility . As far as him talking about the president leading from behind. The president doesnt have to say anything politically. But he did. John he said line i cant. And he gave a speech about race that a basil talked about before, and then he stepped forward when no one expected it when trayvon was shot. When gates came out he caught major heat from that gentleman he has put it on the line many times. I thought the comment about libya was very unfair. He took a lot of heat for not rushing to war, something that the other president did not receive enough heat on. Basil, is this talking about what tavis wants. Tavis and cornell have a right to say what theyre saying. I dont disagree with him. I disagree with him in this particular statement that he has made. Because i wanted the president to Say Something more the first time he spoke, but then he spoke again. I think what he said was appropriate. I think it wasthere was passion there and it had the affect of potentially changing the conversation and starting this dialogue. What i will say if we talk about tavis for a second, i think part of the problem with a lot of statements that he makes with cornell is that based on where it came from, the origin of it, some of the actual truth of it sort of gets lost because he comes across sounding like this angry guy who does have a problem with the president and its personal. Its very real. Tavis smiley for ten years did a state of the black union that the president didnt show up to. And the state of the black union did not change in ten years. You have these wonderful people come out and talk for ten years about the state of the black union, which is horrific and there havent been any movement. And you have wells fargo sponsoring subprime lending. John and all the mortgages. Right behind you. Im tired of the talk. Im tired of the people with the rhetoric. I didnt even want to come on and talk about this because im oh tired. John i can tell. There is so much noise. I want some action. Stand your ground to me is not going to help black kids go to school get better grades, not drop out, increase our low unemployment rate. John that was the other problem. I think youre absolutely right. I dont want to have a conversation that goes nowhere. I want more black jurors, more black police chiefs, and more black prosecutor cuters. And congressmen who are going to do something. John ive been hearing a dialogue on race for 20 years. I think were having it. Basil smikle and karen hunter, were going to have you back later in the show. Its great to have you here. Thank you. John the grand ol party. It turns out its not all that grand for republicans any more. Well explain coming up next. Did anyone tell the pilgrims they should selfdeport . No, they said make us a turkey and make it fast. laughter . She gets the comedians laughing. Thats the best thats hilarious. And the thinkers okay, so there is wiggle room in the Ten Commandments is what youre telling me. Shes joy behar. Ya, i consider you jewtalian. Okay, whatever you want. Who plays kafka . Who saw kafka . Who ever saw kafka . laughter . Asking the tough questions. Chris brown, i mean you wouldnt let one of your daughters go out with him. Absolutely not. You would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me . Absolutely singing i take lipitor, thats it. Are you improving your lips . laughter . When shes talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. It looks like Anthony Wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. His what in the ring . His hat. Always outspoken, joy behar. And the best part is that current will let me say anything. What the hell were they thinking . Only on current tv. John last week thomas b. Edsell wrote an oped entitled. Unauthorized retention and communication of National Defense information. In the piece eucrites tom doorty, the aide to governor pataki. now edsels supply pigs is that doorty has a growing dissatisfaction with the right wing, and is responsible for a good amount of criticized lock in congress and a good amount of candidate. Here to discuss the article is none other than republican strategy and partner at mercury from the one and only highly quotable tom doorty. John do you mean what you say, would you really leave the party. Yeah, i lead my life doing what i say im going to do. It would be disheartening to me. I got so many different messages from people. People who said bravo, its about time. We know this is a problem. Somebody needs to talk about it. And thats edsels article he did a long way to quote people like jeb bush, bill kristol etc. Etc. People who agree with what were talking about here is that were now dominated by the fear of the far right. We cannot allow that to be the case. The fact is on so many issues i agree with my fellow brothers in the Republican Party but the happy warrior of ronald reagan, the guy who is the shiningwashington was the shining city on the hill is long and gone. Were dour. We just like this. We dislike that. Were no longer the party of ideas. How do we fix immigration . How do we fix public houseing . Ways to make things better. Cenk let me do something that i dont do often and speak with ana coulter. Youve got got senator rubio. And then ann coulter says if you naturalizenaturalize immigrants, the right side thinks you have naturalized those who will vote against them them. They take care of they are Family Church is a very important part of what they do. Most mexican i have ever come across is the most hardest working person ive ever met. They want a better life for their family. Yes, they crossed the border illegally, i understand that. There is no doubt in my heart if we were talking about 11 million undocumented irishmen. John which 100 years ago we would be talking about. Or germans, this would have been solved a long time ago. Thats part of the problem that i have with this. John how do you think this far right faction. How would this faction gain so much control so rapidly in your party . Well, i think as youve seen voter turnout drop over time, less and less people interested in elections etc. The turnouts, primaries became the place where those that were most angry those who were the most energized, and anger is the right word, they dominated the elections. Its simple for a House Republican who has been there for 15 years, 20 years e goes about its business, does good work for their party etc. One time, you see it with Chris Christie. One time he had the audacity to hug the president to save his state that was underwater. John dick lugar. Dick lugar the same. Now all of a sudden Chris Christie is a liberalthats absurd. John bain boehner in my heart i know he wants to get immigration done. But his fear, ive got someone who wants to be speaker behind me and do i take the risk of losing the speakershipership. John eisenhower reaganed would have been primaried by now. What does the party have to do so survive . Will they splinter off or do we continue for decades. I really believe because the only option i have, if i leave the Republican Party which i never want to do, i would join the libertarian party. I believe there is a real libertarian message and voice within our party. If you look at ron pauls campaigns, i agree with some things, there were some things i didnt agree with, but if you look at the young people energized in that movement, thats how people think. They want less government. Sexuality, abortion rights, they dont want to hear about it. They want less government. I think there is an opportunity for the republican to wake up and say the future is ahead of us. The future of america is going to be browner. John and abortion is a personal issue. Abortion is one issue that i have a real problem with. In my own heart i consider myself prolife. Yet the libertarian side says to me i cannot tell a 21yearold woman what decision to make. Thats her choice, and thats up to her to make that decision. The only party of my party that i will not get crazed about, 50 of americans are prolife. 50 are prochoice. I dont think thats our biggest issue. John i think you should run. I think you speak for the sane wing of the g. O. P. There are a lot more sane republicans than you think. John i know there are im related to some of them. Thank you sir, its been a pleasure. Thank you. John everything you wanted to know but how john boehner knows how to say nothing. Stick around. At 9 eastern. Im a slutty bob hope. The troops love me. Tv and radio talk show host Stephanie Miller rounds out currents morning news block. Youre welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. vo sharp tongue. Excuse me . vo quick wit. And yes, president obama does smell like cookies and freedom. vo and above all, opinion and attitude. Really . this is the kind of they just pulled freshly from their [bleep]. You know what those people are like. What could possibly go wrong in eight years of george bush . My producer just coughed up a hairball. Sorry. Just be grateful current tv doesnt come in smellovision oh come on the sweatshirt is nice and all but i could use a golden lasso. vo only on current tv. vo later tonight current tv is the place for compelling true stories. Jack, how old are you . Nine. This is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. vo with Award Winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. vo from the underworld, to the world of privilege. Everyone in Michael Jacksons life was out to use him. vo no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current. John welcome back to viewpoint. I think bob receiver sheafer of is one of the toughest interviewers in all of tv today. I was surprised when john boehner decided to go toetotoe with him. And gave a class on dodging and political chicanery. Watch this and learn. Will you allow any immigration bill to come to the house floor for a vote if it includes some kind of path to citizenship for the 11 million Illegal Immigrants that are in this country now . Bob, we have a broken immigration system. The Legal Immigration system is broken. We have a problem with 11 Million People who are here without documents. 40 of who, by the way came here as legal immigrants. We have a very big problem. Ive committed one the house does not like the senate bill. Its one big massive bill that in my opinion doesnt have enough serious triggers to protect our border. Would you get back to my question, would you allow a bill on the floor that provides a path to citizenship for 11 million illegal people. What were doing this in the house is a common step by step approach. Are you not going to answer that question . This is not about me. This is about allowing the house to work its will. Do you personally favor a bill that has a path to citizenship. People have been trying to get me to do this since after the election. Youre the leader of the republicans. I felt it was time to deal with immigration. Youre not going to say what youre for. If i say im for this, or im for that, im just making my job harder. John thats how its done. Well be right back. Commercials . Those types are coming on to me all the time now. vo she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. Ok, so theres wiggle room in the Ten Commandments, thats what youre saying. You would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. Absolutely. And so would mitt romney. vo shes joy behar. And the best part is that current will let me say anything. What the hell were they thinking . A. John now a story that has drawn a ton of outrage from the western world and beyond. A norwegian woman reported an alleged rape to police in dubai and instead of finding sympathy or justice she was sentenced to 16 months in jail for having sex outside of marriage. Marte Deborah Dalelv had to spend several days in a jail cell before she was even allowed to use a telephone. She called her stepfather to say that she had been raped and she was in prison, and to call the embassy. This all happened when she was working in dubai on a business trip. I woke up and realized i was being raped. I went down to the lobby and i calledi asked them to call the police for me. If they asked me, are you sure you want to call the police . I said of course im going to call the police. Thats a natural reaction. John after worldwide outcry she has been given a pardon and is now free to leave the country. As she has bravely chose ton share her story this brings up questions about womens rights both in the middle east and worldwide. Here to discuss this very important subject is my esteemed panel, basil smikle, professor and miss current hunter and g. O. P. Strategist mr. Tomorrow tom doherty. Thank you for joining me. The story is worse than i laid out. It was a coworker, they were both arrested, and she was counseled to say that it was consensual and then they locked her up and he went home to his wife and three children. Dubai with its beautiful sky scrapers, shopping malls and they still adhere to many strict muslim laws. If a woman cant report a rape without being put in jail, karen, how is this a developed society . Its not. And i think what you just laid outthey mimic our entertainment and great hotels, hospitality and theyre really trying to be western but they forgot the one tenant which is civil rights and freedom, which is what we here have adhere to. I think its interesting, too the activism that you saw here with gloria steinman, there doesnt seem to be a lot of that in the middle east. John not yet. Well, they get killed. John well, they do, but tommy, let me bring you into this. Doesnt capitalism itself guarantee that the world is getting smaller and it will be harder and harder to have oppressive regimes. The uae is our ally, or our oil supply. Its a very big world. Its a very diverse world and a world in many cases we disagree with. If you about back and watch the west wing, this did he an entire segment on saudi arabia. If youre a gay person in one of those countries they cut your head off. There are places in the world that are not america. We have to live with that, fight that, but sometimes the more we fight that, particularly trying to tell those countries how to act we should certainly put a spotlight on cases like this to get a flow and innocent wambach home to theywomanback to her family. John not like america has a Sterling Record on womens rights. Come over here and make 0. 77 on the dollar. We have young girls killed for getting an education, we have young women being sold into slavery. We have that here. We have sex trafficking and women being sold into slavery. We have women being beaten by their husbands with little recurs. Is this just how the world is, and progress takes a long time . Both. Progress does take a long time, and this is how the world is but i do think ultimately capitalism will prevail and some of these countries will startdubai, for example, there is a lot of recruiting of people from the united states, from other countries to go over there and work. I have a friend who went over there to work in the real estate business. They make a lot of money by bringing foreigners in to make money for them. I think capitalism will eventually win out. Ifif you take countries like india where gang rapes are happening. Gang rapes in brazil, and weve got the world cup and the olympics coming in the next four years. Well call for changes but we wont see changes in as short of time that we would like it. Boycotting florida, Stevie Wonder justin timberlake, if they wouldnt go over there to perform one person, that would definitely have an impact. Jlo. The outrage of her performing for a bunch of dictators who are evil people. John do you think the outrage around this womans treatment in dubai might begin to change the way uae treats women . That would be the step in the right direction. Clearly they cannot be happy about the publicity over this. If you ask me is tehran changing tomorrow . No. John but theyre blowing up the martin case america is a land where black teens can be shot for skittles. Capitalism shown in country that helps gay people, ikea that had a commercial with a gay couple. Thats still causing an outroar, but applaud them for doing it. John they knew they were going to have controversy. Were they a real family . John i believe they were. Were talking about boycotting the olympics in china. Lindsey graham, it has nothing to do with you, maybe a little something. Stick around. Compelling true stories. Jack, how old are you . Nine. This is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. vo with Award Winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. vo from the underworld, to the world of privilege. Everyone in Michael Jacksons life was out to use him. vo no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current. John Vladimir Putin of russia is pretty conflicted these day. He loves homoer rottic sports, that he hates everyones gay populations. He hates them so much that his Nations Police have begun to arrest them or arrest anyone who says anything positive about being gay in russia. Mr. Putin just detained four dutch tourists for asking russians on their views on gay rights for a documentary. They are the first four arrests under the new antigay laws that will help remove propaganda of gays to underage. Bringing back our panelists democratic statist basil smikle, and professor at Hunter College karen hunter and g. O. P. Strategist tom doherty. Should we boycott the olympics because of these laws. You cannot allow one guywhen you look back on the history of the olympics, i think carter made a big mistake. These athletes who train day in and day out. Lets say i have a gay figure skater is he threatened there . There are going to be a number of gay threats wegay athletes we hope that theyre safe and secure. But if we look back on 80 we regret it. John we boy caughted because the soviet union was occupying afghanistan, what kind of an empire would do that. Its a very simple name. I agree with this guy. And i think that what you see happening there is really kind of the movement and progress, its like this emergence of all of this craziness but theyre moving in society. The activists the activism you couldnt see before. Those people would be killed john that activism is illegal. But theyre not dead. John but you can go to jail. If youre an american and say i love my gay son, they can put you in jail for two weeks before deporting you. Im not agreeing with it, im saying this is movement in this Russian Society we havent seen in the past, and they gave them chance after chance, i agree with that. In a side note we were just in st. Petersburg, carol and i and carol has a gay son who is getting married in december. Who is carol . My wife. I waited to tell her what was happening in russia because carol would have stood up in the middle of st. Petersberg and say, i have a gay son, dont mess with me. I told her after we left. John we asked our viewers if we should boycott the olympics. One viewer said, yes. And another viewer wrote, we should go and be as gay as we could be. Another viewer said no vexality has nothing to do with the olympics. Doesnt this just hurt the athletes . Who is going to say anything bad about black people . We are the olympics. Not the winter ones but the summer ones. There are no olympics without us. John this is putins idea of having every country boycott and russia would win every event. First of all the problem is that the Olympic Committee is not going to give the olympics to tehran. I dont think we have to worry. They were given to china. Chinas record on human rights is nothing to write home about. And the opening ceremonies. The trading and selling good, but the point is were never going to find the perfect model. There are extremes here. John karen americans have a lot of rage over these antigay propaganda in russia. What do we say to these countries we do business with, where its not just gay propaganda, but countries were very cosy w but being gay is illegal. Ive said this before, the chickens come home to roost sticks out in my mind. At some point well have to face that hypocrisy sit or get off the pot. John considering americas shaky record on civil rights. I hate to bring up bill clinton in your presence. Im okay. You know, he used to say there is only so much we can make and sell to each other. We necessarily have to be out there in the world doing commerce but i think we arewere not at the place where were willing to negotiate not just trade but also behavior with these other countries. If were going to do it, we should do it consistently. Did we go to sudan . Rwanda . No we didnt. We pick and choose who we want to boycott. You brought bill clinton in, where do you think you get the cigars from . Cuba. Monica lewinsky. I wasnt even going there. Sorry. John in fairness of timing, some would say that bill clinton was best republican president we ever had. I would like to thank karen hunter and basil smikle and tom doherty. Thank you. Were heading south. It turns out virginia not so much for lovers. Dont go away. They should selfdeport . No, they said make us a turkey and make it fast. laughter . She gets the comedians laughing. Thats the best thats hilarious. And the thinkers thinking. Okay, so there is wiggle room in the Ten Commandments is what youre telling me. Shes joy behar. Ya, i consider you jewtalian. Okay, whatever you want. Who plays kafka . Who saw kafka . Who ever saw kafka . laughter . Asking the tough questions. Chris brown, i mean you wouldnt let one of your daughters go out with him. Absolutely not. You would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me . Absolutely singing i take lipitor, thats it. Are you improving your lips . laughter . When shes talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. It looks like Anthony Wiener his what in the ring . His hat. Always outspoken, joy behar. And the best part is that current will let me say anything. What the hell were they thinking . Only on current tv. John so i spent the weekend in my moms home state of virginia. Aid funeral to go to. While it was sad i had a chance to catch up with my family. Thats when i realized i had not been spending enough time following the heroic adventures of republican nominee of governor ken cuccinelli. I thought this was going to be another Gubernatorial Election that has its fair share of gubers, but i was wrong. This election day will be sodomy tuesday. It refers to a disgusting, unholy vial act engaged in by gay men with gay men or straight men with spectacular understanding women. As you know sodomy laws have been used mainly to persecute gay people. Last month the cucc asking them to up hold virginias sodomy law which held oral oral sex by gay straight, he really doesnt like anal and oral sex. He finds the whole concept hard to swallow and nothing, my friend, is going to keep this man down. Turns out hes only trying to ban these activities between consenting adults to protect the children. You see, the cucc has a new website. And on it he says only by reinstated the old crimes against nature law can protect children. That and all the laws thief on they have on the books along with child rape, which is illegal it sounds scary scarey, and thats good enough for me. Doesnt it mean that any adult enjoying those acts will now be sex offenders in the eye of virginia law . Is this another corporation trying to regulate your bedroom . The cucc said this law would not be necessary between consenting adults but he said he objected to oral and anal sex on principle. I went to Public School so i object doing those on principal too. Finally, making the g. O. P. Relevant again. Banning oral sex is a brilliant way to get ahead. I applaud you. I look forward to your antisodomy drones. Far too long millions of heterosexuals have been trapped in nightmares of deeply fulfilling and awesome marriages, and this must be stopped. 80 of men and 80 of women admit to oral pleasure. This is a danger train and hes demanding that all get off. How many happy grownups do we need to have . We salute you kenny cucc. You could have wasted your time by investigating the bribes that the governor received, but some politicians only Pay Lip Service to banning orals but ken cuccennelli is milking it. If you like sodomy, stay away from the cu uch. This is viewpoint. God night mom. Michael tonight the latest developing on the boston bombing suspects plus a very candid conversation with actor tom sizemore, all of this and more on say anything. [ theme music ] joy welcome to the show. I am j