Akers in illinois were set to vote on samesex marriage but the session ended before they could do so. We have a reported on the martyr that explains it in more detail. The General Assembly being urged by the president to legalize gay marriage in illinois. Were here because we want to make sure that this goes through this year. Gay rights organizations rallied outside the Thomson Center saturday as lawmakers met inside to discuss pension reform. They encouraged the crowd to push the gay marriage bill to pass. The archdiocese of chicago is hoping lawmakers and residents think things through. This letter was given out to parishioners at Holy Name Cathedral this morning. This is something that weve seen throughout the country. Anytime state lawmakers set to vote on samesex marriage, religion gets involved and you know the tune changes a little bit. Cardinal Francis George said the following of the. Im sorry. We have a video of him saying that. Lets take a look at that. We all know there are people he who are truly loving people of Different School persuasions. Changing the nature of marriage, if its a civil right the state can change it. This is a natural right. Now we have a guest on this matter Illinois State senator heather stern. Heather, state senator, thank you for joining us. We look forward to talking to you about this. Cenk great to have you heather. So youre the one who introduced this and we almost got a passen oh the last session. What went wrong there . We just ran out of time. We have a new session starting up and plan to go at this early in the session. Were back february 5 and im hoping to hear it soon thereafter. Cenk what do you think the chance of success are . I think theyre great. People have come along. We passed civil unions two years ago. The discussions are very different. Theres been a sea change of Public Opinion on this. Every day we see more people starting whats fair under our laws in treating everyone the sail. Its encouraging and heartening. Cenk first of all whether gay marriage should be legal or not, were finally at 5346 and this number has moved dramatically since by the way 1996, two thirds of american were opposed to gay marriage, now 47 in favor. Religion 47 of the time is the reason people are against gay marriage. Its just all a way of saying thats what the bible says. How did we get past that . How do we get to a point where people stop saying i dont know, my preacher was telling me this, but maybe doesnt make any sense. I think its important that this is civil marriage we are talking about. Were not changing the definition of religious marriage. We do think many religions will choose, we have close to 330 clergy indicating their support for samesex marriage. Some religions will choose not to do so. Its important to understand that this is civil marriage. Churches can choose to do so or not. Thats really important. We understand the religious freedom aspects as well. Cenk the Catholic Church is going to fight you so the question is given that the hand writing appears to be on the wall, how much are they fighting you and what do they try to do behind the scenes to try to make sure this doesnt pass . Were working with all of our colleagues. Weve met and sat down with the catholic conference and were highing to make sure that they feel comfortable that the protections are there so they will not have to solemnize samesex marriages. They may never support the bill. Im not sure they ever will and theyll do what they need to do. I think we have the Public Opinion on our side. I think even more folks im hearing from, even clicks here in illinois support it. The general population pretty much across the board support samesex marriage now. I think whats really important is having those voices heard reaching out and contacting their state representatives and senators. I think thats whats happening. Thats the feedback im getting from my colleagues, at least. Cenk why did you decide to champion this issue. Theres a couple of reasons. One, i dont think its fair to treat any class of folks as second class citizen approximates. We passed civil unions, but its not the same. People grow up with these aspirations to get married. You fall in love and you understand dream of your wedding day. Not allowing everyone access to that same institution is i think just totally morally unjust. Theres also now i think timings important now because the supreme courts going to be taking up the defense of marriage act. Some folks think it may be getting overturned when they hear arguments in march and april. If that happens same sex couples able to marry will have access to all the federal benefits that come with marriage. Civil union couples will not. That will be a real discrepancy that means a lot of Economic Hardship on families and protections that arent there for the families in the same way. Why do you think that aside from religious voters that the mentality toward samesex marriage is changing among constituents . I think that its i know my daughter, for example shes got three kids, at least three kids in her class who have two parents of the same self. She cant possibly fathom why that family is treated differently than our family. People know our friends and you have so many relationships now you see in loving committed relationships have families that need the same protections as your own family. I think it becomes a less mysterious concern and factor when you see it and how much it is a string in our neighborhoods and communities to be actually supporting families. Cenk Illinois State senator thank you for joining us. The death of an internet rebel. We have more on that story. In 2011, schwartz was arrested when he broke into mi. T. To download files. These talking points, that the right have, about the heavy hand of government. I want to have that conversation. 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He could have gone to prison for 35 years along with a Million Dollar fine. The family put out a statement cenk thats strong language, but it gets Even Stronger at his funeral. His father said very tough language indeed, but if my son had died in that same fashion my guess is that my anger would be equivalent to that, so we certainly feel their pain. Let me bring in david segal executive director of demand progress, where they worked with aaron. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. Glad to see you even if the circumstances are pretty terrible he. Cenk no question about that. Well first tell us about what role aaron played in demand progress. He started the organization, i came onboard quickly thereafter, in the fall of 2010, and sort of right out of the box, we put forth a petition in opposition to the bill that eventually became sopa. It took off. We had a wonderful membership that cared about freedom issues and defined the course for the next couple of years. Does anyone believe this is actually a terms of service breach, that this is the reason why, you know, federal officials went after him or is this more about the fact that he was an internet activist . Its hard for me to speak to. I think that he would love to think sometimes anyway, that he was subversive enough that people wanted to come after him. I dont think that was actually the case. I think that he knows that that wasnt actually the case. He was he it was a function of overzealous prosecutors who dont understand internet law trying to apply regulations that were construed for a different era trying to translate language that legislators probably didnt understand, even as they were even as they were writing the law to the internet arena. The prosecutorial establishment judicial establishment does understand understand internet law. They try to take things they do understand and project that on to the internet realm and do that unsuccessfully. They did that in this case. Cenk i dont think the government necessarily went after him because he was an internet activist. I do believe once they put him in the category of hacker in their mind, this is the thing we care most about my god, they can get access to information and if they do, thats something we cant control. You know, my sense of it is that the government gets far more vindictive in cases like that. I dont know what your take is on it, david. What do you think . I absolutely would agree with you. I think theres an increasing concern about activist information in this country creeping surveillance state in this country, and aaron stood against all of those things, just by virtue of his being and by virtue of the work that he chose to undertake over the course of his life, and i think there is increasing concern about those issues. We know definitively that prosecutorial resources in terms of funding and staff have been steered increasingly toward those issues. This is a function of that. Its a realm of the law that people the prosecutorial establishment has been more and more attuned to in recent years. Theyre looking for reasons to jump that. They had dont necessarily understand the laws that are before them. They have no concept of whats going on and in aarons mind, all the goodness in his heart he was someone who was a hacker, in the white hat sense trying to do things to make this world a better place in his work on line and in politics. You got to know him right cenk . Cenk i did. He was trying to use the money he made to do good in the world. Prosecutors knew that, that he wasnt trying to poverty off of it. Ana, they have a statement . They do six months is ridiculous. For doing what he did spending six months even in a low security setting is unwarranted. Because of the fact that m. I. T. Allowed people to have access to j store all he did was access it a little to much. Cenk what do you think david . There are so many questions about what did or didnt actually happen. One thing that i was thinking about mentioning just in the bumper that you guys ran i know it wasnt your reporting, before this segment referred to his having broken into m. I. T. To do this work, and ford, m. I. T. s campus clothing began is open minds, open campus. I mean, even that very much a contestable point and one that he and his attorneys were going to contest. The notion that he did anything wrong here is one that i would absolutely disagree with. The notion that under any circumstance he wanted to get rich off of peddling in academic articles most of which werent accessed for decades is absurd on the face of it. There is so much wrong with this case, he was such a complex person, this relates to him in so many different interesting ways. We are trying to do right by him moving forward. Cenk david segal, thank you for joining us on the young turks. We appreciate it. Thanks very much. 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The big question is whether he was duped or he was trying to do that people. Uhhuh. He will talk more about whether it was his doing but basically he is saying he was a victim and here is manti teo again continuing with that and reaction from the school, notre dame. He said to realize that he was the victim of what was apparently someones sick joke and constant lies was and is painful and humiliating. Notre dame having conducted its own investigation believed him. This was a very elaborate very sophisticated hoax. Cenk not buying it. Its like when you see these officials from the school, you cant help but think of coach paterno had nothing to do with it. He that that was a serious case. Well, thats true. This guy he got caught up. I think its a little bit of both, first of all. I think he got fooled. If you look at him, you see him talk about everything thats happening, you can tell he doesnt really think things through. [ laughter ] i mean, on espn, one reporter said they had a conversation with him and say he seemed child like and simple and that was his way of saying it. He got duped first. Then when he found out said well i feel like lets play this up for my own benefit. I think its a little bit of both lets push this to the end. His simpleness leads me to a different conclusion, that he came up with this and didnt think it through like hey at some point people are going to figure out you didnt have that girlfriend, and that look, this is a part of the sickness of the media. Every story has to be tragic. Like in the olympics, oh, my god, his grandmother and the dog and someone in the same state died in the same week and hes still got a bronze especially when it has to do with athletes, right. If an athlete does something hes a linebacker and plays well. If he plays well, all of a sudden hes like this American Hero and Everyone Needs to focus on him and oh, my god did you see how he played well after suffering these tragedies. People suffer tragedies every day and get no attention or credit for it at all. Cenk are we surprised that somebody manufactured one because thats what the press loves when it comes to sport. Give me tragedy. Hes up for the heisman its going to i am prove his chances. He came in second. Listen to his quote here. He said i lost two women that i really loved had my football family around me, had my girlfriends football family around me and at the end of the day, familles are forever. What . Thats him saying it. Come on, man. When Sports Illustrated interviewed him. They saidthey said he didnt know where she studied, where shes from, where she worked, didnt know the details of her death. All these things bring into question whether or not this is a real thing. Some people think what could the reason possibly be . Well Amanda Turkel tweeted out cenk thats harsh and i hadnt thought of that, right. Its not harsh. Its not harsh. It could just be true and sad, too. I love amanda, but there is so many other this is a common occurrence that happen to say regular people who around manti teo and up for a heisman. People got fooled on line all the time. There is a new mtv show called catfish and its someone who acts like they are on line. Cenk he said my girlfriends football family and all that stuff as if theyd met. In another instance, he talked about how they had met and he looked into her eyes. Hes lying. They probably met at a football game. That money from that account in nigeria. He went along with this to progress his career, think about it this way this is another layer i think people around seeing. S. I. Projects his draft status in the nfl may drop because of this, one of i think is ridiculous. It has nothing to do with the fact cenk heres the only way that makes sense. Vince young had issues with like mental well being to be honest. He was a great Great Quarterback from the university of texas and he looked great in every way but people were like man, hes got some issues, right. It turned out he flaked out in the nfl because of his mental issues. This dudes got mental issues making stuff like this up. He had past issues in the nfl. Hes a good player on the field, thats not going to happen. Cenk id draft him dont get me wrong but i wouldnt want to look, the guys mental man to make that up about somebody who died and to be so stupid to think people wouldnt find out thats crazy. Look we dont have time to tell the whole story but i cant. I got to jump in and tell you about this. The next story we had is about a guy, a worker, getting paid a couple hundred thousand dollars. They go into his computer and find out hes been outsourcing his own job but keeping the money. He outsourced somebody in china to do his work for us. Genius. He paid 20 of his salary to guys in china slaving over it and stuff and it turns out they did the best work in the office. Come on not guilty, right . Not guilty. Hes living the american dream. Cenk the american dream. Outsourcing to china and keeping most of the money. I love how he filmed it on she gets the comedians laughing. Thats hilarious . And the thinkers thinking. Okay, so theres wiggleroom in the Ten Commandments is what youre telling me. Shes joy behar. And current will let me say anything. Only on current tv. Who is this . Thats pete. My. [ dennis voice ] allstate agent. A starving artist has an allstate agent . He got me. [ dennis voice ] the allstate value plan. Its their most affordable Car Insurance and you still get an agent. [ normal voice ] i call it. [ dennis voice ] the protector. Is that what you call it . The protector okay. The allstate value plan. Are you in good hands . Break the ice with breathfreshening cooling crystals. Ice breakers. n n