cus on solutions and ways of bringing people together. that's the only way we're going to solve the world's great vexing problems. >>(narrator) the gavin newsom show tonight at 11 eastern/8 pacific on current tv. >> cenk: the air force base in texas is where every air force reports every year. there have been more sexual assault charges. 31 female teenees trainees and involves a dozen instructors as well. we have a report explaining more. >> charged with rape, a smart sergeant accused of giving alcohol and having sex with a young female recruit. the air force is really a smutty sex scandal. now a dozen boot camp instructors are under investigation. the problem goes beyond what branch of service. >> sexual assault has no place in the military 12,347 the pentagon estimates there are 19,000 sexual assaults each year but only a small percentage of these crimes are reported and less than 8% go to a court-martial. >> cenk: those are not good numbers. we have more numbers for you in a second as we break down this story. but to help us to do that we'll bring in suzanne burke who susan burke who is representing plaintiffs in the military, not this particular case but other cases. susan thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. let me start with this particular case, susan about. is this part of a pattern? is it isolated? what is your sense of this case. >> it's clearly part of a pattern. if you look at what has gone on in the past few decades we've seen again and again when there is media attention when it rises to a scandal level, we havethisis really a wake-up call. this is a problem that has been going on for years. it has to be fixed with real structural reforms. there is unfortunately nothing new anding in novel. it has risen to public attention because it's such a large group. >> cenk: nine of the 12 instructors are part of the same squadron. that led me to believe that there is a culture that is permissive. >> clearly it's a culture. you do not have that many perpetrators or that many victims without it being tolerated at the highest level. we've had secretary panetta step in and say he's going to change things. but if you look at what he a has done, he said let's move the oversight of this to the corner and lt. col. . and what we see here is that it all happened with a lieutenant colonel in command and not bringing prep traitors toous. >> cenk: assaults have gone up. it's now 3192. the year before it was 3158. it's gone up 1%. do you think that it's more crimes that are happening that are sexual assaults, or do you think that people are reporting it now? >> i think that it's going to be hard to know for certain. i do not think we're having more reporting. i think we're actually having more crimes. the reason i don't think we're having more report something that nothing has been done to eradicate the culture of retallation. if you're raped and you want to spend your career in the military you just don't come forward. until that changes i think the rise in numbers we're see something actual rise in crime not rise in reporting. i would note as well what happens when you have this type of culture where it is just--where it is--where these kinds of sexual predators are not captured and incarcerated, each sexual predator on average has 300 victims. it's this history of failure to prosecute, failure to incarcerate that is probably leading to an increase in numbers that we see. >> cenk: that number is so startling i honestly have trouble believing it. each perpetrator with 300 victims that seems impossible. on average? i literally have trouble believing it, susan. >> hopefully your audience numbers have seen there is a wonderful documentary called "the invisible war" that goes through all this information and all of this data. investigators who have skilled in this field have done the research. if a perpetrator is not caught over their lifetime they have on average 300 victims. now, what you hope both in the civilian world and the military world is that you catch them and you cut them off before they reach that level. but for perpetrators who are not incarcerated that is actually the typical number of victims that they have. >> cenk: that's not for the military. that's on average the civilian and military. >> that's correct. that's an average number. >> cenk: we have a clip. i want to give people a sense if they haven't seen it before, the personal toll is devastating for women who are affected. this is for earlier cases. >> the rape kit and everything and the person catching him raping me. >> i reported it two different times to my squad leader. he told me there is nothing that they can do about it because they didn't have any proof. >> they actually did charge me with adultery. i wasn't married. he was. >> cenk: it's a great movie. honestly sometimes when you see the women--it's one thing to see the numbers. it's another to see the human being. when you see them you think, of course they didn't make it up. why would they make it up? then they go on camera and they're going to do a documentary. this is obviously true and this is obviously a big big problem. susan, the question is what is it that you would like to have done in order to fix this problem? >> well, what we need to do is get this completely out of the chain of command. there is no reason why these crimes should be adjudicated by somebody's boss or the boss' boss. what you really want which is all of us in civilian life expect, we expect an impartial process of adjudication. we expect the prosecutor that doesn't know us, we expect the jury that doesn't know us and the judge who does not know us and the men and women who have volunteered to defend our nation are certainly entitled to that similar level of due process that we civilians enjoy. >> cenk: all right so i'm curious, i don't know if you have an answer to this, but is it your sense there is more rape as a percentage wise obviously in the military or the civilian world? >> we know it's a target-rich environment. because if you're a sexual predator and you're not caught you're going to continue to target people. i think what we're seeing is the result of just decades of lack of prosecution. i would suggest as well that the past history where we have former secretary rumsfeld giving a moral waiver and letting people into the military service who had criminal records that likely did not help. that's likely part of the problem that we're seeing these dramatically high numbers now. >> one more thing for you, if you were representing the victims, what is the next step you would take? >> well, it's important to distinguish. there are two different processes. first is the criminal process. obviously i would encourage all of the victims to cooperate with the prosecutor, the criminal prosecutor bringing these cases forward. the second, the other type of remedy is a civil remedy. that's what we're seeking on behalf of other victims. it's to insure that their institutional rights are accorded. i very much hope that the victims of the rapes are according their due process rights, but sadly i have no confidence that will happen given what we've seen again and again in the many, many cases we've been handling. >> cenk: thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> cenk: now when we come back, speaking of attacks on women they might be closing the last abortion clinic in mississippi this weekend. >> all we're say something that doctor has to be certified and he has to be associated with a hospital. >> he knows it's a false argument. what this is really about is stopping abortion in mississippi. >> cenk: well, i'll tell you about that false argument and the trick republicans are using to shut that clinic down. and later in the show we've got a real life american hero. >> natalie plumber admits she'll probably never hold up a sign like this out near any road. >> i was completely abiding by the law. i was simply warning other citizens. in the billionaire purchase of our nation. and you think it doesn't affect you? 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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: all right well, the republicans are going to have a lot of bag of tricks for attacking not just policy priorities but women's rights. they can't make abortion illegal in mississippi. but they figure if they shut down all the abortion clinics ha, ha you can't get an abortion any way. what is the trick that they used with house bill 1390? they said if you're out of state doctor and you don't have in-state admitting privileges then you can't perform an abortion in mississippi. why did they do that? they know the three doctors who perform abortions in mississippi have out of state but not in-state. the other way you can do it is to go to a religious affiliated hospitals who won't give you admitting privileges if you're a doctor. this is a trick. we have a report explaining how it went down in mississippi. >> i would think that anyone who is concerned about women's healthcare would rally to our side. >> lloyda spokesperson for women in mississippi. >> i understand that he thinks our think something wrong but what he fails to understand is when women and men voted against this, they voted against having an abortion-free mississippi. >> right now the jackson women health organization is the state's only abortion clinic. all doctors on the staff are certified obyyn but the bill they are all from out of state. >> he knows it's a false argument. what this is really about is stopping abortion in mississippi. >> cenk: oh, golly gee, all we're say something that none of these doctors can perform abortions, ha, ha. he later admitted he was trying to stop all abortions in mississippi. it's really not all that complicated. by the way there is a significant amount of abortions that do happen. there is obviously a need in mississippi. the women's health organization explained 2378 abortions and say that you know what, because the house bill 1390 would ban abortions in mitt romney by, quote, imposeing medically unjustifiable requirements on physician who is perform abortions, they would go after this and try to stop it. let's ring in erin matson, and i have my power team, jacki schechner is back, michael shure is here, and we're all loaded here. let's start with you what is your take on what is happening in mississippi here, and how can you fight back? >> welcome to ground zero of the war on women. that's what is happening in mississippi. if we had one state without an abortion provider we've effectively overturned roe v. wade in that state. i'm seeing across the country demonstrations taking place women are mad as hell and we're not going to take it any more. women's lives are on the line right now. >> cenk: how do you fight back, erin? >> how do we fight back? we take it to the streets. we've seen demonstrations taking place, coordinated around the country. there is more activity than i've seen in all of my years at feminist activism. it's been ten years since i've been active in the movement. i know that in mississippi i'm glad that our mississippi state president was on the report earlier. i know that mississippi now has been on the front lines of defending abortion rates in mississippi the whole time, working in coalition and outside that clinic and also working in the legislatures. >> cenk: i want to ask you if the courts should get involved and how should they get involved. governor brian said on the tape, if they close that clinic, so be it. i could hear him snickering. he said, today you see the first step in the movement i believe to do what we campaign on. to say we're going to try to end abortion in mississippi. he's agreeing with you erin. that is his goal. shouldn't that be, obviously illegal, according to roe v. wade. >> it's clearly constitutional but the fact is you can't end abortion. it's whether or not you're going to end legal abortion. when you end legal abortion what happens is women die. one of the state representative who is were a standing up and speaking up for the bill, they say if there is no legal abortion there will be women using coat hangers well, you got to have moral values. the sickening audacity of these right wing men. what are they trying to do to us come on. >> cenk: jacki, a lot of people would say there are a lot of women who are in the pro-life movement, and this is not necessarily an attack on women. >> i imagine this is an argument, and erin could probably answer this, this has been going on for a long time. when you only have one abortion clinic in the entire state this has not been overnight. this is a tremendous fight they've been fighting for a while. there were two clinics in 2008 and now there is one clinic in 2012. this has been building. this is a pro-choice movement and the other side must be much much stronger. >> cenk: do you think the democrats have run enough on this? >> in a way this is a national story. mississippi has framed it as a local story. the democrats have their plate full right now if they're not focusing on mississippi. they will, and the state is ready for this, there will be a series of legal challenges if none of these doctors are granted at mitting privileges at any of the hospitals. organizations like now are going to get behind the legislative movements to try to change this. >> cenk: and remember, everybody, and we're out of time here but i got to remind the audience in mississippi they tried the person hood bill and they said hell no. it wasn't even close. and this war on women is not helping their cause. 44% of americans say they're pro-choice. that's a bad number. 72% said they believe that abortion should be legal. that means you're pro-choice. >> remember in mississippi though, this passed a bipartisan legislature. democrats walk a different line in-- >> cenk: right, but that's part of their problem. erin matson thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. thank you for fighting the fight. jacki and michael. you're great. from time to time you know i criticize president obama but we try to find--we don't find it, it just falls in our lives unfortunately, substance, the republicans on the other hand, they're blaming him for the wildfires in colorado. come on. we'll talk about that when we come back. >> the waldo canyon fire has been declared the most destructive in colorado history. it has scorched through more than 16,000 acres. filling on viewpoint with eliot spitzer. >>that was mitt romney showing once again his fearless fear of she thought allstate car insurance was out of her reach. until she heard about the value plan. see how much you could save with allstate. are you in good hands? 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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> i'm going to lose my home. >> oh, my god. >> cenk: time for the hit list. stories that have me worked up. the fire is one of them. that dude looks menacing. look, about the fires. it's devastating in colorado. we have 3600 people who have been evacuated. 17,000 acres that has burned. we've talked about this in relationship to climate change. you know, since 1970 we now have 6.5 times more land that is burned every year. this is not a coincidence. it is part of a pattern right? and when this kind of tragedy happens we all got to rally together. that's what the president says. >> whether its fires in colorado or flooding in the northern parts of florida, when natural disasters like this hit america comes together. >> cenk: you would think so. you would hope so. but apparently not. because michelle malkin took this as a great opportunity to blame president obama. how in the world is she going to do that. this is creative. this is what she said 37 the obama administration neglect the federal government's aerial tanker fleet races acrid questions about its core public safety priorities. ten years ago the feds had a fleet of 40 plains but now it's about--thefeds had a fleet of 44 firefighting planes. today the number is down to nine for the entire country. now they're saying you didn't spend enough. that's hypocrisy beyond the imagination. the governor of colorado said, quote, are these the same conservatives that were so worried about the obama administration spending too much money or were these different conservatives? well, i couldn't agree more. come on, michelle malkin, have you have no decency? what am i talking about? of course she has no decency. yeah, we had the resources, and it was near my house in colorado springs, how dare obama cut spending. they may cut it on other people but not us. if you think i'm outraged about that, wait until you hear me talk about campaign finance reform. a new report out about the super pac. do you know as of may 71% of the money coming in is from donors above $500,000. do you know how much you have to be to give $500,000 or more to a politician? do you know it's less than 100 people who are giving two-thirds of the money. less than 100 people are buying the election. the rest of us are fairly irrelevant. oh they'll just buy more ads. do you think they give $500,000 out of the goodness of their heart? they give that money so they can buy them. if you're sheldon adelson and you might be brought up on charge for a fraud and corruption act you can guess those charges aren't coming. our system has become legalized and obvious bribery. the most judicial case of this week was not the healthcare law it was really important. but the most important one was montana. in montana they said this is corruption. we can't have corporations buying our local politicians. all of those conservative justices talking about states rights, arizona has got state rights to target latinos and immigrants etc. turns around to montana. you got no states right! fert states rights. we didn't mean states rights. we mean corporations rule us all. they said in a 5-4 decision where chief justice john roberts was with the conservatives and with the corporations, even on the state level corporations can buy any damn politician they like. they said, there is not even an appearance of corruption. are you kidding me? 100 guys bought the election and there is no corruption? on which planet? as you can tell i'm a little worked up about it. unfortunately in a lot of ways we've lost our democracy. those guys are the ones who will determine who is going to win and who is not going to win and it's sickening. when we come back we have the story of an american hero. here is the only problem. she got arrested. >> i was simply warning other citizens of a--of a situation ahead. 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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: all right, natalie plumber is in my opinion an american hero. she saw that cops were pulling people over senselessly where she lived. they aggravated, you know those tickets, they're unbelievably expensive. i know. i just got one the other day. a normal speeding ticket, nothing extraordinary. $360. who can afford that, god bless natalie's heart. what did the cops do? they arrested her. >> i was completely abiding by the law. i was simply warning other citizens of a--of a situation ahead. >> it was last thursday on west dallas. she was on herred bike heading home from the grocery store when she saw this, houston police pulling over speeders. >> i felt that he was pulling random cars over. >> she made the sign and stood on the sidewalk. >> cenk: the cops said i'm going to arrest you why? i don't know. first they came to her you're interviewing with police investigations. which is a felony. okay that's hard to prove and not really true. then they were able to go through they are backpack. they did not find any marijuana so they didn't have anything there. okay, let's pretend you were on the road. that would an mcdonald's. they arrested her and--that would be a misdemeanor, and they put her in jail for 12 hours for trying to help the rest of us. why? they got to make their fines. they can't raise t